Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mighty vac bleeding

From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 06:54:36 -0400

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Thanks Rick,
Lin

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 10:14 AM Rick Fisk <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Linda,
>
> The PDWA valve is only installed on cars with dual brake circuit master
> cylinders.  These masters have separate output lines - one for the front
> brakes and one for the rear brakes.  Your master cylinder is the older
> single output type.  One line from the master supplies pressure to both the
> front and rear brakes.  You don't have a PDWA valve, so ignore all this
> PDWA stuff.  :-)
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jun 30, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Allen Hefner via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Linda, if you have the PDWA (not a proportioning valve, my bad) it is
> located near the master cylinder. It looks like a squat "H" with brake
> pipes and an electrical wire. You can look at the Moss catalog online for a
> drawing.
>
> The PDWA was originally installed on the 1275 and 1500 Spridgets. It may
> have been added to your car when the disks were installed, but you really
> have to look to see if it is there.
>
> Allen Hefner
> Norristown, PA
> Sun City Center, FL
>
> *Current:*
> 2016 Subaru outback somewhere
> 2006 Chebbie
> *Former:*
> 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
> 1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
> 1964 VW Type I
> 1967 VW Type II
> 1967 Rover 2000TC
> 1977 MG Midget (Sniff!)
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 8:29 AM Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> Rick what does this mean "PDWA valve is plumbed on all Spridgets" ?
>> Being Pinky was upgraded to disc probably from a 1967 Spridget does
>> this mean, "if my rear brakes go the front still work" so is there a
>> valve somewhere in my system that shuts off the rear? If so where is
>> that valve located, what does it look like?
>>
>> I have a "Pressure Differential Warning  Assembly" not a
>> "proportioning valve" .......yes?
>> Linda
>>
>> 62 California Sprite "Pinky"
>>
>> On 6/29/19, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> > Also, the way the PDWA valve is plumbed on all Spridgets you get either
>> both
>> > fronts or both rears when one circuit fails.  No diagonal splits on a
>> > Spridget.
>> >
>> > Sent from my keyboard
>> >
>> >> On Jun 29, 2019, at 5:24 PM, CosmicMag1380 via Spridgets
>> >> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Respectfully  disagreeing with the terminology... There is a 5 port
>> union
>> >> in the system that has a shuttle valve in it to close off a side of the
>> >> system in the event of a catastrophic failure. They came about with the
>> >> advent of disc brakes on the spridgets. The later models had a warning
>> >> light sensor built in to them. The early ones didn't have the light
>> >> fitting. They are often referred to as a proportioning valve as they
>> have
>> >> equal pressure on all ports until a sudden fluid leak and a good stomp
>> on
>> >> the brake pedal. If the pressure is low on one side of the system, the
>> >> shuttle valve is supposed to close off the bad side leaving some
>> braking
>> >> capacity because of the other side. One front wheel and the opposite
>> side
>> >> rear wheel makes up the pairs.
>> >>
>> >> Just my 2 cents if it means anything to anyone,
>> >> Kent
>> >>
>> >>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 4:10 PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets
>> >>> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> >>> Just a small nit guys,  but a couple of you have mentioned the brake
>> >>> "proportioning valve".  No proportioning valve on a Spridget.  The
>> device
>> >>> you're refering to is the PDWA - Pressure Differential Warning
>> Assembly.
>> >>>  It simply turns on a light to tell you if the pressure is different
>> >>> between your front and rear brakes, no proportioning.
>> >>>
>> >>> Linda's car does not have one, so ignore all of this Linda.   :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> Rick
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Jun 29, 2019, at 3:05 PM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridgets
>> >>>> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ok it works just fine...mine does.
>> >>>> Everyone is seemingly skipping one valuable step.
>> >>>> Loosen the bleeder screw, thrn close it just enough that it's closed
>> but
>> >>>> not tight!   Attach the bleeder hose and pump up the mighty vav to as
>> >>>> much vacume the gauge will read.  Now ever so slightly crack the
>> bleeder
>> >>>> screw and watch the gauge on the mighty vav!   Just before it reads
>> ZERO
>> >>>> shut the bleeder screw.
>> >>>> Repete until you have a steady stream coming into the bleeder cup.
>> >>>> Close the bleeder after the last pull of fluid and then snug it
>> closed
>> >>>> and if ya got one, put the rubber protective cap onto the bleeder
>> nipple
>> >>>> to keep dirt out of it and move to the next wheel.
>> >>>> When bleeding a car without a proportioning valve start with the
>> wheel
>> >>>> FARTHEST from the master cylinder and work your way forward .  if it
>> has
>> >>>> a proportionong valve the same rule applies but you only do front as
>> 1
>> >>>> circuit and then the front as 1 circuit and if the proportioning
>> valve
>> >>>> goes off center...recenter it.
>> >>>> Then be certain the master cylinder is at a proper level install the
>> >>>> master cylinder cap....
>> >>>> Yer done!
>> >>>> Chuck
>> >>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Rick,<div>Lin</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 10:14 AM=
 Rick Fisk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left=
-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Linda,<div><br>=
</div><div>The PDWA valve is only installed on cars with dual brake circuit=
 master cylinders.=C2=A0 These masters have separate output lines - one for=
 the front brakes and one for the rear brakes.=C2=A0 Your master cylinder i=
s the older single output type.=C2=A0 One line from the master supplies pre=
ssure to both the front and rear brakes.=C2=A0 You don&#39;t have a PDWA va=
lve, so ignore all this PDWA stuff. =C2=A0:-)</div><div><br></div><div>Rick=
<br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_1755074495558460400AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"lt=
r">Sent from my keyboard</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jun 30, 2019, at 9:30=
 AM, Allen Hefner via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Linda, if you =
have the PDWA (not a proportioning valve, my bad) it is located near the ma=
ster cylinder. It looks like a squat &quot;H&quot; with brake pipes and an =
electrical wire. You can look at the Moss catalog online for a drawing.=C2=
=A0<div><br></div><div>The PDWA was originally installed on the 1275 and 15=
00 Spridgets. It may have been added to your car when the disks were instal=
led, but you really have to look to see if it is there.=C2=A0<br clear=3D"a=
ll"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail-m_1755074495558460400gmail_signatu=
re"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><br></div><div>Allen H=
efner</div>
<div>Norristown, PA</div><div>Sun City Center, FL</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><em>Current:</em></div>
<div>2016 Subaru outback somewhere</div><div>2006 Chebbie</div>
<div><em>Former:</em></div>
<div>1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III</div>
<div>1967 Triumph TR4A IRS</div>
<div>1964 VW Type I</div>
<div>1967 VW Type II</div>
<div>1967 Rover 2000TC</div>
<div>1977 MG Midget (Sniff!)</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 8:29 AM Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;bor=
der-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Rick what does this mean =
&quot;PDWA valve is plumbed on all Spridgets&quot; ?<br>
Being Pinky was upgraded to disc probably from a 1967 Spridget does<br>
this mean, &quot;if my rear brakes go the front still work&quot; so is ther=
e a<br>
valve somewhere in my system that shuts off the rear? If so where is<br>
that valve located, what does it look like?<br>
<br>
I have a &quot;Pressure Differential Warning=C2=A0 Assembly&quot; not a<br>
&quot;proportioning valve&quot; .......yes?<br>
Linda<br>
<br>
62 California Sprite &quot;Pinky&quot;<br>
<br>
On 6/29/19, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Also, the way the PDWA valve is plumbed on all Spridgets you get eithe=
r both<br>
&gt; fronts or both rears when one circuit fails.=C2=A0 No diagonal splits =
on a<br>
&gt; Spridget.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent from my keyboard<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Jun 29, 2019, at 5:24 PM, CosmicMag1380 via Spridgets<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Respectfully=C2=A0 disagreeing with the terminology... There is a =
5 port union<br>
&gt;&gt; in the system that has a shuttle valve in it to close off a side o=
f the<br>
&gt;&gt; system in the event of a catastrophic failure. They came about wit=
h the<br>
&gt;&gt; advent of disc brakes on the spridgets. The later models had a war=
ning<br>
&gt;&gt; light sensor built in to them. The early ones didn&#39;t have the =
light<br>
&gt;&gt; fitting. They are often referred to as a proportioning valve as th=
ey have<br>
&gt;&gt; equal pressure on all ports until a sudden fluid leak and a good s=
tomp on<br>
&gt;&gt; the brake pedal. If the pressure is low on one side of the system,=
 the<br>
&gt;&gt; shuttle valve is supposed to close off the bad side leaving some b=
raking<br>
&gt;&gt; capacity because of the other side. One front wheel and the opposi=
te side<br>
&gt;&gt; rear wheel makes up the pairs.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Just my 2 cents if it means anything to anyone,<br>
&gt;&gt; Kent<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 4:10 PM Rick Fisk via Spridgets<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Just a small nit guys,=C2=A0 but a couple of you have mentione=
d the brake<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;proportioning valve&quot;.=C2=A0 No proportioning valve =
on a Spridget.=C2=A0 The device<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; you&#39;re refering to is the PDWA - Pressure Differential War=
ning=C2=A0 Assembly.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 It simply turns on a light to tell you if the pressure i=
s different<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; between your front and rear brakes, no proportioning.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Linda&#39;s car does not have one, so ignore all of this Linda=
.=C2=A0 =C2=A0:-)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Rick<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent from my iPhone<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Jun 29, 2019, at 3:05 PM, crusaderchuck55--- via Spridg=
ets<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ok it works just fine...mine does.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Everyone is seemingly skipping one valuable step.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Loosen the bleeder screw, thrn close it just enough that i=
t&#39;s closed but<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; not tight!=C2=A0 =C2=A0Attach the bleeder hose and pump up=
 the mighty vav to as<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; much vacume the gauge will read.=C2=A0 Now ever so slightl=
y crack the bleeder<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; screw and watch the gauge on the mighty vav!=C2=A0 =C2=A0J=
ust before it reads ZERO<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; shut the bleeder screw.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Repete until you have a steady stream coming into the blee=
der cup.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Close the bleeder after the last pull of fluid and then sn=
ug it closed<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and if ya got one, put the rubber protective cap onto the =
bleeder nipple<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to keep dirt out of it and move to the next wheel.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; When bleeding a car without a proportioning valve start wi=
th the wheel<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; FARTHEST from the master cylinder and work your way forwar=
d .=C2=A0 if it has<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; a proportionong valve the same rule applies but you only d=
o front as 1<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; circuit and then the front as 1 circuit and if the proport=
ioning valve<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; goes off center...recenter it.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Then be certain the master cylinder is at a proper level i=
nstall the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; master cylinder cap....<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yer done!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Chuck<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
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