Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rear brake Beehive spring / Steady spring

From: HealeyRick via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 10:29:47 -0400

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I use a BFS to compress the spring and push the hook end into the backing
plate.  Been so long, don't recall the orientation.

Rick Neville

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 10:18 AM Lester via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Good Morning all,
>
> so I noticed that a rear tire was low.  A few weeks later I went to fill
> it with air.  It had come loose from the rim, and mud daubers (wasp here =
in
> the South) had built a nest between the tire and rim.
>
> Off comes the rim, this reveals a streak of brake fluid down the tire and
> a puddle on the driveway.  This caused me to remove the shoes but first, =
I
> had to remove that damned spring.  When last I installed these, I stumble=
d
> on the fact that there is the easy way to install them and a hard way.  T=
he
> hard way takes 30 minutes and a lot of cursing an prying while the easy w=
ay
> takes seconds.  does anyone remember my easy way?  I sure don=E2=80=99t. =
 I vaguely
> recall that if you just push the spring in oriented the correct way it
> snaps on to the fitting on the backing plate.  But of course I don=E2=80=
=99t
> remember what that orientation is although it =E2=80=9Clooks like=E2=80=
=9D the hook in the
> spring should be pointed outwards.
>
> What say you all?
>
> TIA,Lester
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I use a BFS to compress the spring and push the hook end i=
nto the backing plate.=C2=A0 Been so long, don&#39;t recall the orientation=
.<div><br></div><div>Rick Neville</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 10:18 AM Lester via Spridgets &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Good Morning all,<br>
<br>
so I noticed that a rear tire was low.=C2=A0 A few weeks later I went to fi=
ll it with air.=C2=A0 It had come loose from the rim, and mud daubers (wasp=
 here in the South) had built a nest between the tire and rim.=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Off comes the rim, this reveals a streak of brake fluid down the tire and a=
 puddle on the driveway.=C2=A0 This caused me to remove the shoes but first=
, I had to remove that damned spring.=C2=A0 When last I installed these, I =
stumbled on the fact that there is the easy way to install them and a hard =
way.=C2=A0 The hard way takes 30 minutes and a lot of cursing an prying whi=
le the easy way takes seconds.=C2=A0 does anyone remember my easy way?=C2=
=A0 I sure don=E2=80=99t.=C2=A0 I vaguely recall that if you just push the =
spring in oriented the correct way it snaps on to the fitting on the backin=
g plate.=C2=A0 But of course I don=E2=80=99t remember what that orientation=
 is although it =E2=80=9Clooks like=E2=80=9D the hook in the spring should =
be pointed outwards.<br>
<br>
What say you all?<br>
<br>
TIA,Lester<br>
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From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:07:11 -0500

I don’t recall. Installing is facilitated by needlenose vise grips as a handle/plunger. 

Ron Soave

> On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Lester via Spridgets <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Good Morning all,
> 
> so I noticed that a rear tire was low.  A few weeks later I went to fill it with air.  It had come loose from the rim, and mud daubers (wasp here in the South) had built a nest between the tire and rim.  
> 
> Off comes the rim, this reveals a streak of brake fluid down the tire and a puddle on the driveway.  This caused me to remove the shoes but first, I had to remove that damned spring.  When last I installed these, I stumbled on the fact that there is the easy way to install them and a hard way.  The hard way takes 30 minutes and a lot of cursing an prying while the easy way takes seconds.  does anyone remember my easy way?  I sure don’t.  I vaguely recall that if you just push the spring in oriented the correct way it snaps on to the fitting on the backing plate.  But of course I don’t remember what that orientation is although it “looks like” the hook in the spring should be pointed outwards.
> 
> What say you all?
> 
> TIA,Lester
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From: David Lieb via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:52:09 -0500

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Well thank you, Lester. Just last week I was going emergency brake work on
my Bugeye and noticed that there was no provision for steady springs, but I
couldn't remember whether my RWAs had had them. Guess they did...
David L

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<div dir=3D"auto">Well thank you, Lester. Just last week I was going emerge=
ncy brake work on my Bugeye and noticed that there was no provision for ste=
ady springs, but I couldn&#39;t remember whether my RWAs had had them. Gues=
s they did...<div dir=3D"auto">David L</div></div>

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From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 18:59:51 +0000 (UTC)

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I just redid my rear brakes on my Bugeye.=C2=A0 The tab with the hole in it=
 for the spring on the backing plate is at the 3 or 9 o'clock position depe=
nding what side you are on.=C2=A0 There is a tool for the steady spring tha=
t looks like a screwdriver with a cup on the end of the shaft.=C2=A0 The ri=
m of that cup has a tab on it that catches the steady spring allowing you t=
o turn it into position after it is compressed.=C2=A0 Just push it in with =
the "hook" at the 12 o'clock position and turn 90 degrees to catch the hole=
 in the tab on the backing plate.=C2=A0 Sounds complicated, but once you ha=
ve done one it gets easier.=C2=A0 Any parts store should have brake tools.
Mike MacLean=20

    On Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:06 AM, Lester via Spridgets <spridget=
[email-masked]> wrote:
=20

 Good Morning all,

so I noticed that a rear tire was low.=C2=A0 A few weeks later I went to fi=
ll it with air.=C2=A0 It had come loose from the rim, and mud daubers (wasp=
 here in the South) had built a nest between the tire and rim.=C2=A0=20

be pointed outwards.

What say you all?

TIA,Lester
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From: Bob Spruck via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 18:31:29 -0400

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Having recently replaced my Bugeye brakes, I suffered through the same 
dilemma with those d**n beehive springs. For many hours, I am 
embarrassed to say. So, I fabricated a tool made from an appropriate 
diameter bolt that fits inside the I. D. of the spring with a slot cut 
in the end and engages the upper bent half of the hook. Also made a 
handle to fit my palm. All you have to do is insert the tool in the 
spring, push inward, and twist. You do need to figure out which way the 
inner hook is facing and where the opening in the bracket is.

I should patent it and make millions.

Bob

On 9/22/2018 2:59 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote:
> I just redid my rear brakes on my Bugeye.  The tab with the hole in it 
> for the spring on the backing plate is at the 3 or 9 o'clock position 
> depending what side you are on.  There is a tool for the steady spring 
> that looks like a screwdriver with a cup on the end of the shaft.  The 
> rim of that cup has a tab on it that catches the steady spring 
> allowing you to turn it into position after it is compressed.  Just 
> push it in with the "hook" at the 12 o'clock position and turn 90 
> degrees to catch the hole in the tab on the backing plate.  Sounds 
> complicated, but once you have done one it gets easier.  Any parts 
> store should have brake tools.
> Mike MacLean
>
>
> On Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:06 AM, Lester via Spridgets 
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Good Morning all,
>
> so I noticed that a rear tire was low.  A few weeks later I went to 
> fill it with air.  It had come loose from the rim, and mud daubers 
> (wasp here in the South) had built a nest between the tire and rim.
>
> Off comes the rim, this reveals a streak of brake fluid down the tire 
> and a puddle on the driveway.  This caused me to remove the shoes but 
> first, I had to remove that damned spring.  When last I installed 
> these, I stumbled on the fact that there is the easy way to install 
> them and a hard way.  The hard way takes 30 minutes and a lot of 
> cursing an prying while the easy way takes seconds.  does anyone 
> remember my easy way?  I sure don’t.  I vaguely recall that if you 
> just push the spring in oriented the correct way it snaps on to the 
> fitting on the backing plate.  But of course I don’t remember what 
> that orientation is although it “looks like” the hook in the spring 
> should be pointed outwards.
>
> What say you all?
>
> TIA,Lester
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Arial">Having recently replaced my
          Bugeye brakes, I suffered through the same dilemma with those
          d**n beehive springs. For many hours, I am embarrassed to say.
          So, I fabricated a tool made from an appropriate diameter bolt
        </font></font><font size="+1"><font face="Arial"><font size="+1"><font
              face="Arial"> that fits inside the I. D. of the spring </font></font>with
          a slot cut in the end and engages the upper bent half of the
          hook. Also made a handle to fit my palm. All you have to do is
          insert the tool in the spring, push inward, and twist. You do
          need to figure out which way the inner hook is facing and
          where the opening in the bracket is.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Arial"> I should patent it and make
          millions.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Arial">Bob</font></font><br>
    </p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/22/2018 2:59 PM, Michael MacLean
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            id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537641727776_29314">I just redid my
            rear brakes on my Bugeye.  The tab with the hole in it for
            the spring on the backing plate is at the 3 or 9 o'clock
            position depending what side you are on.  There is a tool
            for the steady spring that looks like a screwdriver with a
            cup on the end of the shaft.  The rim of that cup has a tab
            on it that catches the steady spring allowing you to turn it
            into position after it is compressed.  Just push it in with
            the "hook" at the 12 o'clock position and turn 90 degrees to
            catch the hole in the tab on the backing plate.  Sounds
            complicated, but once you have done one it gets easier.  Any
            parts store should have brake tools.<br>
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            id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537641727776_29314">Mike MacLean</span></div>
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              <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Saturday,
                  September 22, 2018 7:06 AM, Lester via Spridgets
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                <div dir="ltr">Good Morning all,<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">so I noticed that a rear tire was low.  A
                  few weeks later I went to fill it with air.  It had
                  come loose from the rim, and mud daubers (wasp here in
                  the South) had built a nest between the tire and rim. 
                  <br>
                </div>
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                </div>
                <div dir="ltr">Off comes the rim, this reveals a streak
                  of brake fluid down the tire and a puddle on the
                  driveway.  This caused me to remove the shoes but
                  first, I had to remove that damned spring.  When last
                  I installed these, I stumbled on the fact that there
                  is the easy way to install them and a hard way.  The
                  hard way takes 30 minutes and a lot of cursing an
                  prying while the easy way takes seconds.  does anyone
                  remember my easy way?  I sure don’t.  I vaguely recall
                  that if you just push the spring in oriented the
                  correct way it snaps on to the fitting on the backing
                  plate.  But of course I don’t remember what that
                  orientation is although it “looks like” the hook in
                  the spring should be pointed outwards.<br>
                </div>
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                <div dir="ltr">What say you all?<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">TIA,Lester<br>
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