Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tyres - Whether tis better to replace or no

From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 18:51:08 -0600

Tires are the single most important element to your car's handling, braking, ride quality and overall safety. Bill Clinton was president when you bought them. If you have to think much beyond that… 

Ron Soave

> On Nov 8, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Martyn Ridley via Spridgets <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> I am running the Sprite on Dunlop SP20  165/70 13s.  They have just over 20,000 miles, and still have 4mm of tread.  Never had a flat, no cracks in the sidewall, still look almost new. Good quality New Zealand rubber.  Trouble is, they were made 397 (39th week 1997).
> 
> I have read a lot about and experienced (cheap Kumhos) internal rot and external hardening (8+ year old Michelins) but see no evidence of either on the Dunlops. They are not run in winter nor, if I am lucky, in adverse conditions.  I have never experienced bump-steer in the dry with them, and wet braking was never a 'joy' at the best of times.
> 
> If I replace them I will want to go to 155/80 13s, which are becoming rare in my part of the world. (well not true, but I'll be dammed if I'm going to spend a fortune to put Michelins on)
> 
> My question to the list is therefore two-fold, one should I replace the tyres, and second, given that I will not pay 200/tyre what are my non-Chinese options?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Martyn
> 
> 
> PS: I thought there was a similar thread back about last spring, but I can't find it.  If someone has it and can summarize I would appreciate it.
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From: Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 17:00:22 -0800

There are no decent 13” tires left in the US, and 14” is about over too.
I’ve been searching for tires for my CRX for almost a year.
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From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 02:41:11 +0000 (UTC)

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I have had my Yokohama Avid tires on my Bugeye since I changed wheels to Au=
stralian Super Lites over ten years ago.=C2=A0 There is no discernible trea=
d wear (shows how much I drive it) and no side wall cracks, but I am lookin=
g for a new set of tires now.=C2=A0 175 70R 13s.=C2=A0 I am sure the car wi=
ll handle better with a fresh set of tires.Mike MacLean
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[email-masked]> wrote:
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 Tires are the single most important element to your car's handling, brakin=
g, ride quality and overall safety. Bill Clinton was president when you bou=
ght them. If you have to think much beyond that=E2=80=A6=20

Ron Soave

> On Nov 8, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Martyn Ridley via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
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> I am running the Sprite on Dunlop SP20=C2=A0 165/70 13s.=C2=A0 They have =
just over 20,000 miles, and still have 4mm of tread.=C2=A0 Never had a flat=
, no cracks in the sidewall, still look almost new. Good quality New Zealan=
d rubber.=C2=A0 Trouble is, they were made 397 (39th week 1997).
>=20
> I have read a lot about and experienced (cheap Kumhos) internal rot and e=
xternal hardening (8+ year old Michelins) but see no evidence of either on =
the Dunlops. They are not run in winter nor, if I am lucky, in adverse cond=
itions.=C2=A0 I have never experienced bump-steer in the dry with them, and=
 wet braking was never a 'joy' at the best of times.
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> If I replace them I will want to go to 155/80 13s, which are becoming rar=
e in my part of the world. (well not true, but I'll be dammed if I'm going =
to spend a fortune to put Michelins on)
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> My question to the list is therefore two-fold, one should I replace the t=
yres, and second, given that I will not pay 200/tyre what are my non-Chines=
e options?
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> Cheers,
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> Martyn
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> PS: I thought there was a similar thread back about last spring, but I ca=
n't find it.=C2=A0 If someone has it and can summarize I would appreciate i=
t.
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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div>I h=
ave had my Yokohama Avid tires on my Bugeye since I changed wheels to Austr=
alian Super Lites over ten years ago.&nbsp; There is no discernible tread w=
ear (shows how much I drive it) and no side wall cracks, but I am looking f=
or a new set of tires now.&nbsp; 175 70R 13s.&nbsp; I am sure the car will =
handle better with a fresh set of tires.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean=
<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478649629716_112753"><span></span><=
/div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted=
" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, ne=
w york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: Helveti=
caNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Tuesday, =
November 8, 2016 6:30 PM, Ron Soave via Spridgets &lt;[email-masked].=
net&gt; wrote:<br></font></div> <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid=
 rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> =
<br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container">Tires are the single most important=
 element to your car's handling, braking, ride quality and overall safety. =
Bill Clinton was president when you bought them. If you have to think much =
beyond that=E2=80=A6 <br><br>Ron Soave<br><br>&gt; On Nov 8, 2016, at 1:24 =
PM, Martyn Ridley via Spridgets &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I am running the Sprite on Dunlop SP20&nbsp;=
 165/70 13s.&nbsp; They have just over 20,000 miles, and still have 4mm of =
tread.&nbsp; Never had a flat, no cracks in the sidewall, still look almost=
 new. Good quality New Zealand rubber.&nbsp; Trouble is, they were made 397=
 (39th week 1997).<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I have read a lot about and experienced=
 (cheap Kumhos) internal rot and external hardening (8+ year old Michelins)=
 but see no evidence of either on the Dunlops. They are not run in winter n=
or, if I am lucky, in adverse conditions.&nbsp; I have never experienced bu=
mp-steer in the dry with them, and wet braking was never a 'joy' at the bes=
t of times.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; If I replace them I will want to go to 155/80 =
13s, which are becoming rare in my part of the world. (well not true, but I=
'll be dammed if I'm going to spend a fortune to put Michelins on)<br>&gt; =
<br>&gt; My question to the list is therefore two-fold, one should I replac=
e the tyres, and second, given that I will not pay 200/tyre what are my non=
-Chinese options?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Cheers,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Martyn=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; PS: I thought there was a similar thread back ab=
out last spring, but I can't find it.&nbsp; If someone has it and can summa=
rize I would appreciate it.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; ------------------------<br>&g=
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From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 21:34:56 -0600

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My new Ford has 13" tires. 

Ron Soave
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> On Nov 8, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:
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> There are no decent 13=E2=80=9D tires left in the US, and 14=E2=80=9D is a=
bout over too.
> I=E2=80=99ve been searching for tires for my CRX for almost a year.
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From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 03:43:41 +0000 (UTC)

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Michelin Defenders at America's Tire in my size for $69 each.Kumho Sense at=
 Tire Rack in my size for 49.50 ea.And, believe it or not Tire Rack rates a=
 General Altimax RT43 highest in this size. They go for $51.
I don't know which model you have Billy, but most CRX tires are the same si=
ze as the one I use on my Bugeye.Mike MacLean
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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478662075337_6737">Michelin Defenders at America's T=
ire in my size for $69 each.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_147866207533=
7_6738">Kumho Sense at Tire Rack in my size for 49.50 ea.</div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478662075337_8480" dir=3D"ltr">And, believe it or not Tir=
e Rack rates a General Altimax RT43 highest in this size. They go for $51.<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I don't know which model y=
ou have Billy, but most CRX tires are the same size as the one I use on my =
Bugeye.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478662075337_8744">M=
ike MacLean<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478662075337_6743"><span=
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f; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On =
Tuesday, November 8, 2016 7:24 PM, Billy Zoom via Spridgets &lt;spridgets@a=
utox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br></font></div> <blockquote style=3D"border-left:=
 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-lef=
t: 5px;"> <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container">There are no decent 13=E2=
=80=9D tires left in the US, and 14=E2=80=9D is about over too.<br>I=E2=80=
=99ve been searching for tires for my CRX for almost a year.<br>-----------=
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From: brian S via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 23:50:18 +0000

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Ron has gone and got hisself a Real Racecar!

Gratz, Ron!!

It's gonna a ton o fun, and nothing like WhiteTrash!

Enjoy!

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
Thanks to Frank C.!

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From: Spridgets <[email-masked]> on behalf of Ron Soave v=
ia Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 10:34 PM
To: Billy Zoom
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tyres - Whether tis better to replace or no

Ron Soave

> On Nov 8, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:
>
> There are no decent 13" tires left in the US, and 14" is about over too.
> I've been searching for tires for my CRX for almost a year.
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<p>Ron has gone and got hisself a Real Racecar!</p>
<p>Gratz, Ron!!</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>It's gonna a ton o fun, and nothing like WhiteTrash! <br>
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<p>Enjoy! <br>
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Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!<br>
Thanks to Frank C.!<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 8, 2016 10:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Billy Zoom<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Spridgets<br>
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<div class=3D"PlainText">My new Ford has 13&quot; tires. <br>
<br>
Ron Soave</div>
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&gt; There are no decent 13&#8221; tires left in the US, and 14&#8221; is a=
bout over too.<br>
&gt; I&#8217;ve been searching for tires for my CRX for almost a year.<br>
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