Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Work bench surface

From: Trevor Jessie via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:29:35 -0400

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Being the impatient person that I am ... I whipped out my wallet and bought
some new  stainless steel from the local supplier.  He had some drop cuts
that I could have pieced together, but nobody likes drilling holes in
stainless.  So I paid for a solid piece cut to size.  It is mounted and I'm
happy ... maybe I should sell a spare midget differential to try and pay
for my new workbench surface.

-Trevor

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Mark Haynes <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Trevor-
> Try online metals, I've had good luck with them when I need 304L in odd
> sizes.
> You'll have to cut and paste,but it'll get you to the sheet SS page.
>
> http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?id=232&step=2&top_cat=1
>
> or Service Steel Aerospace, though they are in the PNW,
> http://www.ssa-corp.com/en/materials.php
>
> HTH,
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way- Pay It Forward
>
>
>
> I have a small workbench in the corner of my home garage that is 23" x 52".
> The bench top is actually just made from scrap 2x4's and it has always had
> a sheet of aluminum on it for a surface.  The aluminum was too thin and has
> seen better days so I want to replace it with stainless steel.  I've been
> watching Craigslist for an old kitchen prep table but they all seem to
> bring good money.
>
> The question:  If I were to just go out and buy a sheet of new stainless
> for the bench surface ... what gauge would be sufficient?
>
> Alternate question:  Any other suggestions for something to use as a bench
> top surface?
>
> -Trevor
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Being the impatient person that I am ... I whipped out my =
wallet and bought some new =C2=A0stainless steel from the local supplier.=
=C2=A0 He had some drop cuts that I could have pieced together, but nobody =
likes drilling holes in stainless.=C2=A0 So I paid for a solid piece cut to=
 size.=C2=A0 It is mounted and I&#39;m happy ... maybe I should sell a spar=
e midget differential to try and pay for my new workbench surface.<div><br>=
</div><div>-Trevor</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Mark Haynes <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">220caribou@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Trevor-<br></div>Try online metals, I&#39;ve had go=
od luck with them when I need 304L in odd sizes.<br>You&#39;ll have to cut =
and paste,but it&#39;ll get you to the sheet SS page.<br><br><a href=3D"htt=
p://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?id=3D232&amp;step=3D2&amp;top_cat=3D1=
" target=3D"_blank">http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?id=3D232&amp;s=
tep=3D2&amp;top_cat=3D1</a><br><br></div>or Service Steel Aerospace, though=
 they are in the PNW,<br><a href=3D"http://www.ssa-corp.com/en/materials.ph=
p" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ssa-corp.com/en/materials.php</a><br><br></=
div>HTH,<br clear=3D"all"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv>Mark Haynes<br></div>It only goes one way- Pay It Forward<br><br><br>
<br>
I have a small workbench in the corner of my home garage that is 23&quot; x=
 52&quot;.<br>
The bench top is actually just made from scrap 2x4&#39;s and it has always =
had<br>
a sheet of aluminum on it for a surface.=C2=A0 The aluminum was too thin an=
d has<br>
seen better days so I want to replace it with stainless steel.=C2=A0 I&#39;=
ve been<br>
watching Craigslist for an old kitchen prep table but they all seem to<br>
bring good money.<br>
<br>
The question:=C2=A0 If I were to just go out and buy a sheet of new stainle=
ss<br>
for the bench surface ... what gauge would be sufficient?<br>
<br>
Alternate question:=C2=A0 Any other suggestions for something to use as a b=
ench<br>
top surface?<br>
<br>
-Trevor<br></div></div></div>
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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 23:22:39 -0400

A couple of years ago I learned a trick for drilling holes in stainless steel that works amazingly well.  At work I frequently have to drill mounting holes in stainless and it was always a job I disliked because it wrecked drill bits and was hard to do.  Then on a job site one day my customer told me about this trick - use Dawn dish soap as a cutting fluid.  When he told me I didn't believe it.  He ran over to their breakroom and came back with a bottle of Dawn.  He handed it to me and said try it.  I squirted a couple of drops on the punchmark on the stainless and started the drill.  It went through almost like soft steel!  I couldn't believe it!  Try it - you'll like it.  :-)

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> On Apr 11, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Trevor Jessie via Spridgets <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Being the impatient person that I am ... I whipped out my wallet and bought some new  stainless steel from the local supplier.  He had some drop cuts that I could have pieced together, but nobody likes drilling holes in stainless.  So I paid for a solid piece cut to size.  It is mounted and I'm happy ... maybe I should sell a spare midget differential to try and pay for my new workbench surface.
> 
> -Trevor
> 
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From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:25:14 -0500

Yup. The bubbles coupled with the extreme heat actually cause a sublimation (direct change for solid to gas phase) effect in the steel. Because of the austenitic nature of the substrate, there is severe weakening of the metal in the area of the friction induced heat, e.g. the hole.  

(I made that up; waiting for my lunch. Idle mind and all that)

Ron Soave

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From: Trevor Jessie via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:35:15 +0000

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Actually ... I have good luck using water soluble cutting oil.  I think the
water (also found in dish soap) just carries the energy (heat) away more
effectively than oil alone.

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016, 1:32 PM Ron Soave <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Yup. The bubbles coupled with the extreme heat actually cause a
> sublimation (direct change for solid to gas phase) effect in the steel.
> Because of the austenitic nature of the substrate, there is severe
> weakening of the metal in the area of the friction induced heat, e.g. the
> hole.
>
> > A couple of years ago I learned a trick for drilling holes in stainless
> steel that works amazingly well.  At work I frequently have to drill
> mounting holes in stainless and it was always a job I disliked because it
> wrecked drill bits and was hard to do.  Then on a job site one day my
> customer told me about this trick - use Dawn dish soap as a cutting fluid.
> When he told me I didn't believe it.  He ran over to their breakroom and
> came back with a bottle of Dawn.  He handed it to me and said try it.  I
> squirted a couple of drops on the punchmark on the stainless and started
> the drill.  It went through almost like soft steel!  I couldn't believe
> it!  Try it - you'll like it.  :-)
> >
> > Sent from my keyboard
> >
> >> Being the impatient person that I am ... I whipped out my wallet and
> bought some new  stainless steel from the local supplier.  He had some drop
> cuts that I could have pieced together, but nobody likes drilling holes in
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Actually ... I have good luck using water soluble cutting oil.=C2=A0 I thin=
k the water (also found in dish soap) just carries the energy (heat) away m=
ore effectively than oil alone.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Tue, Apr 12, 2016, 1:32 PM Ron Soave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:soav=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">Yup. The bubbles coupled with the extreme heat actually cause=
 a sublimation (direct change for solid to gas phase) effect in the steel. =
Because of the austenitic nature of the substrate, there is severe weakenin=
g of the metal in the area of the friction induced heat, e.g. the hole.<br>
<br>
(I made that up; waiting for my lunch. Idle mind and all that)<br>
<br>
Ron Soave<br>
<br>
&gt; On Apr 11, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A couple of years ago I learned a trick for drilling holes in stainles=
s steel that works amazingly well.=C2=A0 At work I frequently have to drill=
 mounting holes in stainless and it was always a job I disliked because it =
wrecked drill bits and was hard to do.=C2=A0 Then on a job site one day my =
customer told me about this trick - use Dawn dish soap as a cutting fluid.=
=C2=A0 When he told me I didn&#39;t believe it.=C2=A0 He ran over to their =
breakroom and came back with a bottle of Dawn.=C2=A0 He handed it to me and=
 said try it.=C2=A0 I squirted a couple of drops on the punchmark on the st=
ainless and started the drill.=C2=A0 It went through almost like soft steel=
!=C2=A0 I couldn&#39;t believe it!=C2=A0 Try it - you&#39;ll like it.=C2=A0=
 :-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent from my keyboard<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Apr 11, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Trevor Jessie via Spridgets &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Being the impatient person that I am ... I whipped out my wallet a=
nd bought some new=C2=A0 stainless steel from the local supplier.=C2=A0 He =
had some drop cuts that I could have pieced together, but nobody likes dril=
ling holes in stainless.=C2=A0 So I paid for a solid piece cut to size.=C2=
=A0 It is mounted and I&#39;m happy ... maybe I should sell a spare midget =
differential to try and pay for my new workbench surface.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; -Trevor<br>
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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:33:54 -0400

Dang Ron.  You had me going to the dictionary to look up words.  And then you tell us it was a joke.  LOL

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> On Apr 12, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Ron Soave <[email-masked]> wrote:
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