Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tubular pushrods - Re: Head Stud Torque Setting

From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 01:01:30 +0000 (UTC)

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More Porsche pummeling... Long, but the end is again real exciting - both o=
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=C2=A0Ron Soave Roscoe, IL "It only goes one way." "Pay it forward."
      From: Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
 To: Ron Soave <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: Peter Caldwell <[email-masked]>; "[email-masked]" <sprid=
[email-masked]>
 Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:44 PM
 Subject: Re: Tubular pushrods - Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting
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WOW!=C2=A0 That was exciting!=C2=A0 What great fun.=C2=A0 The 914 driver ha=
d no business being out there.=C2=A0 He fishtailed it in the beginning of t=
he movie and was all over the place.=C2=A0 I guess his idea of staying ahea=
d was to block anyone behind him.=C2=A0 That car of yours just hums right a=
long!=C2=A0 Loved it.Mike MacLean
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    On Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:36 PM, Ron Soave <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
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 http://youtu.be/MdHLqREbyLc
The end is exciting.=C2=A0

Ron Soave
On Nov 28, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Michael MacLean <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

8000 rpm!=C2=A0 I'm guessing you have straps on your main caps and very goo=
d tri-metal bearings for the crank.=C2=A0 At that rpm my engine would proba=
bly come apart.=C2=A0 It does rev up to 6K quite readily as it has broken i=
n though.
Mike MacLean=C2=A0 =20

    On Saturday, November 28, 2015 12:09 PM, Ron Soave <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
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 Good call on the stock pushrods, Mike. Even with clearance-ing =C2=A0of ho=
les, there is no real reason to use tubular pushrods. I've had them bend ju=
st as readily as stock ones. I've had the same stock pushrods in my now 10+=
 year old race engine for seven years without any issues. The benefits of g=
ood oiling outweigh any marginal benefits the tubular ones offer. I assure =
you I am beating my motor harder than just about anyone on the list. Redlin=
e oil and proper clearances are key to extended life at 8000 RPM

Ron Soave
On Nov 28, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:

I will check the rocker bushings, but there is only a few thousand miles on=
 the rocker assembly since the 1275 was built a few years ago.=C2=A0 They a=
re high ratio (1.5) rockers, but I don't think there is that much wear on t=
hem yet.=C2=A0 The very first time I put oil in the engine, the oil would f=
ill the valve cover before it would eventually drain down in the block.=C2=
=A0 When I built this engine I went kinda crazy trying to lighten the valve=
 train and installed hollow pushrods. Besides, they don't flex or bend.=C2=
=A0 The problem is the holes that the pushrods pass through were enlarged, =
but apparently not large enough for oil to easily pass by.Mike MacLean
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    On Saturday, November 28, 2015 10:01 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimpor=
t.com> wrote:
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  And while loose, you can wiggle the rockers to feel if maybe those bushin=
gs are worn, which can be another reason the head gets flooded with oil
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 On 11/28/2015 11:53 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:
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"Palm to forehead", =C2=A0why didn't I think of that? =C2=A0Thanks Peter fo=
r saving me all that work. Besides, I would have to figure out how my new e=
lectronic works. Mike MacLean=20
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   Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone =20
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 From: Peter Caldwell <[email-masked]>=20
 Date: 11/28/2015 9:38 AM (GMT-08:00)=20
 To: "rrengineer.mike" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]=
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 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting=20
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 In those desperate times at a race, you loosen adjusting nuts and slide th=
e rocker to the side, unless you have solid spacers.
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 On 11/28/2015 11:27 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:
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I am not pulling the head. I may be wrong, but I have to remove the head St=
ud nuts on the pedastals to lift the rocker assembly off the engine to repl=
ace the pushrods. =C2=A0I'm thinking the other stud nuts have to be loosene=
d also to re-torque the head properly. Is there another way to replace the =
pushrods without loosening all the head nuts in sequence? Mike MacLean=20
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   Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone =20
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 Date: 11/28/2015 6:30 AM (GMT-08:00)=20
 To: [email-masked]=20
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 Why pull the head at all?
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Peter Caldwell
World Wide Auto Parts of Madison WI
2517 Seiferth Rd
Madison  WI  53716
(608)223-9400
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ss=3D"signature">Ron Soave Roscoe, IL "It only goes one way." "Pay it forwa=
rd."</div><br>  <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, H=
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t size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</sp=
an></b> Michael MacLean &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Ron Soave &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Peter Caldwell &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;; "[email-masked]" &lt;[email-masked]=
am.net&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Satur=
day, November 28, 2015 4:44 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Su=
bject:</span></b> Re: Tubular pushrods - Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque S=
etting<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv=
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WOW!&nbsp; That was exciting!&nbsp; What great fun.&nbsp; The 914 driver ha=
d no business being out there.&nbsp; He fishtailed it in the beginning of t=
he movie and was all over the place.&nbsp; I guess his idea of staying ahea=
d was to block anyone behind him.&nbsp; That car of yours just hums right a=
long!&nbsp; Loved it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div><span></span></div> <br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv85027267=
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> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:36 PM, Ron Soave &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></font></div> <blockquote style=3D"border-left:=
2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;=
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be/MdHLqREbyLc</a></div><div id=3D"yiv8502726742AppleMailSignature"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv8502726742AppleMailSignature">The end is ex=
citing.&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Ron Soave</div><div clas=
s=3D"yiv8502726742yqt4775837321" id=3D"yiv8502726742yqt40423"><div><br clea=
r=3D"none">On Nov 28, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Michael MacLean &lt;<a rel=3D"nofol=
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v8502726742yui_3_16_0_1_1448748321585_21759">8000 rpm!&nbsp; I'm guessing y=
ou have straps on your main caps and very good tri-metal bearings for the c=
rank.&nbsp; At that rpm my engine would probably come apart.&nbsp; It does =
rev up to 6K quite readily as it has broken in though.<br clear=3D"none"></=
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ns-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"=
> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 12:09 PM, Ron Soave &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow=
" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D=
"none"></font></div> <blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16,=
 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none"> <div class=3D"yiv8502726742y_msg_container"><div id=3D=
"yiv8502726742"><div><div>Good call on the stock pushrods, Mike. Even with =
clearance-ing &nbsp;of holes, there is no real reason to use tubular pushro=
ds. I've had them bend just as readily as stock ones. I've had the same sto=
ck pushrods in my now 10+ year old race engine for seven years without any =
issues. The benefits of good oiling outweigh any marginal benefits the tubu=
lar ones offer. I assure you I am beating my motor harder than just about a=
nyone on the list. Redline oil and proper clearances are key to extended li=
fe at 8000 RPM<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Ron Soave</div><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv8502726742yqt1259998570" id=3D"yiv8502726742yqt71265"><div><br cle=
ar=3D"none">On Nov 28, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt=
;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spridgets@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;=
font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8502726742yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_3088">I will check=
 the rocker bushings, but there is only a few thousand miles on the rocker =
assembly since the 1275 was built a few years ago.&nbsp; They are high rati=
o (1.5) rockers, but I don't think there is that much wear on them yet.&nbs=
p; The very first time I put oil in the engine, the oil would fill the valv=
e cover before it would eventually drain down in the block.&nbsp; When I bu=
ilt this engine I went kinda crazy trying to lighten the valve train and in=
stalled hollow pushrods. Besides, they don't flex or bend.&nbsp; The proble=
m is the holes that the pushrods pass through were enlarged, but apparently=
 not large enough for oil to easily pass by.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike Mac=
Lean<br clear=3D"none"></div> <br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv850272674=
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al"> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 10:01 AM, Peter Caldwell &lt;<a rel=3D"=
nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
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id rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <br =
clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <div class=3D"yiv8502726742y_msg_contain=
er"><div id=3D"yiv8502726742"><div>
    And while loose, you can wiggle the rockers to feel if maybe those
    bushings are worn, which can be another reason the head gets flooded
    with oil<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div class=3D"yiv8502726742moz-cite-prefix">On 11/28/2015 11:53 AM, rre=
ngineer.mike
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div><div><div>"Palm to forehead", &nbsp;why didn't I t=
hink of that? &nbsp;Thanks
        Peter for saving me all that work. Besides, I would have to
        figure out how my new electronic works.</div>
      <div>Mike MacLean</div>
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      Date: 11/28/2015 9:38 AM (GMT-08:00) <br clear=3D"none">
      To: "rrengineer.mike" <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv=
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      Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      In those desperate times at a race, you loosen adjusting nuts and
      slide the rocker to the side, unless you have solid spacers.<br clear=
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      <div class=3D"yiv8502726742moz-cite-prefix">On 11/28/2015 11:27 AM,
        rrengineer.mike wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <blockquote type=3D"cite">
        </blockquote></div><div><div>I am not pulling the head. I may be wr=
ong, but I have to
          remove the head Stud nuts on the pedastals to lift the rocker
          assembly off the engine to replace the pushrods. &nbsp;I'm thinki=
ng
          the other stud nuts have to be loosened also to re-torque the
          head properly. Is there another way to replace the pushrods
          without loosening all the head nuts in sequence?</div>
        <div>Mike MacLean</div>
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I switched to the APT push rods which I'm guessing are hollow (they are  
thicker).  I haven't bent one yet.  I have bent the standard ones but  that 
engine did see more regular high rpm than this engine (car had a 4 speed  box 
in so anything over 100mph need high rpm).

In a message dated 28/11/2015 20:32:53 GMT Standard Time,  
[email-masked] writes:

Good  call on the stock pushrods, Mike. Even with clearance-ing  of holes,  
there is no real reason to use tubular pushrods. I've had them bend just as 
 readily as stock ones. I've had the same stock pushrods in my now 10+ year 
old  race engine for seven years without any issues. The benefits of good 
oiling  outweigh any marginal benefits the tubular ones offer. I assure you I 
am  beating my motor harder than just about anyone on the list. Redline oil 
and  proper clearances are key to extended life at 8000 RPM

Ron  Soave

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I thought that the key benefit of the tubular pushrods was to reduce
reciprocating weight, pushing the valve float rpm a little(!) further up
the tach.
David L

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> engine did see more regular high rpm than this engine (car had a 4 speed
> box in so anything over 100mph need high rpm).
>
> oiling outweigh any marginal benefits the tubular ones offer. I assure you
> I am beating my motor harder than just about anyone on the list. Redline
> oil and proper clearances are key to extended life at 8000 RPM
>
> Ron Soave
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I thought that the key benefit of the tubular pushrods was=
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rther up the tach.<div>David L</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 1:20 PM, WeslakeMonza1330-=
-- via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
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<div>I switched to the APT push rods which I&#39;m guessing are hollow (the=
y are=20
thicker).=C2=A0 I haven&#39;t bent one yet.=C2=A0 I have bent the standard =
ones but=20
that engine did see more regular high rpm than this engine (car had a 4 spe=
ed=20
box in so anything over 100mph need high rpm).</div><span class=3D"">
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<div>In a message dated 28/11/2015 20:32:53 GMT Standard Time,=20
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@aut=
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solid"><font style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent" color=3D"#000000" size=
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  call on the stock pushrods, Mike. Even with clearance-ing =C2=A0of holes,=
=20
  there is no real reason to use tubular pushrods. I&#39;ve had them bend j=
ust as=20
  readily as stock ones. I&#39;ve had the same stock pushrods in my now 10+=
 year old=20
  race engine for seven years without any issues. The benefits of good oili=
ng=20
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=20
  beating my motor harder than just about anyone on the list. Redline oil a=
nd=20
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