Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting

From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:08:45 +0000 (UTC)

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I have been riding motorcycles in California since 1971.=C2=A0 Anymore if t=
he temp goes below 45 degrees.I'm out.=C2=A0 I have an extended half shell =
helmet and my ears are exposed.=C2=A0 Unless my ears are covered in less th=
e 50 degrees it feels like a blow torch on my ears.=C2=A0 Ron, you guys win=
.Mike MacLean
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    On Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:25 PM, Ron Soave <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
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 26 degrees and my wife and I rode one of the motorcycles 110 miles round t=
rip to breakfast. Same tomorrow, but 160 round trip. Game over.=C2=A0

Ron Soave
On Nov 28, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

I'll have you now it is 62 degrees at this time. I am looking at the window=
 thermometer outside my bedroom (heated) window as I type.Mike
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    On Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:49 AM, Rick Fisk <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:
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 Cold garage? =C2=A0In San Bernardino? =C2=A0What - is it all the way down =
to 65 F? =C2=A0 LOL
It's 34 F in my garage right at the moment.

Sent from my keyboard
On Nov 28, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

You're going to make me go out in the cold garage and remove the valve cove=
r and look to see what kind of spacers I have.Mike
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    On Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:15 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimpor=
t.com> wrote:
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  Hmmm=C2=A0 some/most/all? high lift use solid spacers, so back to torquin=
g, I venture.
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 On 11/28/2015 12:47 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:
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  I will check the rocker bushings, but there is only a few thousand miles =
on the rocker assembly since the 1275 was built a few years ago.=C2=A0 They=
 are high ratio (1.5) rockers, but I don't think there is that much wear on=
 them yet.=C2=A0 The very first time I put oil in the engine, the oil would=
 fill the valve cover before it would eventually drain down in the block.=
=C2=A0 When I built this engine I went kinda crazy trying to lighten the va=
lve train and installed hollow pushrods. Besides, they don't flex or bend.=
=C2=A0 The problem is the holes that the pushrods pass through were enlarge=
d, but apparently not large enough for oil to easily pass by. Mike MacLean
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      On Saturday, November 28, 2015 10:01 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimp=
ort.com> wrote:
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    And while loose, you can wiggle the rockers to feel if maybe those bush=
ings are worn, which can be another reason the head gets flooded with oil
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 On 11/28/2015 11:53 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:
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   "Palm to forehead", =C2=A0why didn't I think of that? =C2=A0Thanks Peter=
 for saving me all that work. Besides, I would have to figure out how my ne=
w electronic works. Mike MacLean=20
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   Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone =20
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 From: Peter Caldwell <[email-masked]>=20
 Date: 11/28/2015 9:38 AM (GMT-08:00)=20
 To: "rrengineer.mike" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]=
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 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting=20
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 In those desperate times at a race, you loosen adjusting nuts and slide th=
e rocker to the side, unless you have solid spacers.
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 On 11/28/2015 11:27 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:
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   I am not pulling the head. I may be wrong, but I have to remove the head=
 Stud nuts on the pedastals to lift the rocker assembly off the engine to r=
eplace the pushrods. =C2=A0I'm thinking the other stud nuts have to be loos=
ened also to re-torque the head properly. Is there another way to replace t=
he pushrods without loosening all the head nuts in sequence? Mike MacLean=
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 Why pull the head at all?
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World Wide Auto Parts of Madison WI
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Peter Caldwell
World Wide Auto Parts of Madison WI
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=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1448748321585_4516" dir=3D"ltr">I have been riding motorcy=
cles in California since 1971.&nbsp; Anymore if the temp goes below 45 degr=
ees.I'm out.&nbsp; I have an extended half shell helmet and my ears are exp=
osed.&nbsp; Unless my ears are covered in less the 50 degrees it feels like=
 a blow torch on my ears.&nbsp; Ron, you guys win.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1448748321585_4630" dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3=
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tica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"=
><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:25 PM, R=
on Soave &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br></font></div> <blockquote styl=
e=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top:=
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=3D"yiv7477804319"><div><div>26 degrees and my wife and I rode one of the m=
otorcycles 110 miles round trip to breakfast. Same tomorrow, but 160 round =
trip. Game over.&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Ron Soave</div>=
<div class=3D"yiv7477804319yqt6739982433" id=3D"yiv7477804319yqt57913"><div=
><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 28, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridg=
ets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spri=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-colo=
r:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_155282">I'l=
l have you now it is 62 degrees at this time. I am looking at the window th=
ermometer outside my bedroom (heated) window as I type.</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_155283">Mike<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_155284"><span=
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veticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fon=
t-size:16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Saturda=
y, November 28, 2015 11:49 AM, Rick Fisk &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"r=
ect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"no=
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5);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <br clear=3D"none"><b=
r clear=3D"none"> <div class=3D"yiv7477804319y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yi=
v7477804319"><div><div>Cold garage? &nbsp;In San Bernardino? &nbsp;What - i=
s it all the way down to 65 F? &nbsp; LOL</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div>It's 34 F in my garage right at the moment.<br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none">Sent from my keyboard</div><div class=3D"yiv7477804319yqt12648=
83896" id=3D"yiv7477804319yqt56281"><div><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 28, 2015=
, at 2:20 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
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n, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16=
_0_1_1448735926361_84412">You're going to make me go out in the cold garage=
 and remove the valve cover and look to see what kind of spacers I have.</d=
iv><div id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_84413">Mike<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_84365"><=
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;font-size:16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Sat=
urday, November 28, 2015 11:15 AM, Peter Caldwell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" s=
hape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=
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ne"><br clear=3D"none"> <div class=3D"yiv7477804319y_msg_container"><div id=
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    Hmmm&nbsp; some/most/all? high lift use solid spacers, so back to
    torquing, I venture.<br clear=3D"none">
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<div class=3D"yiv7477804319moz-cite-prefix">On 11/28/2015 12:47 PM, Michael=
 MacLean
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
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      <div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new =
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_3088=
">I will check
          the rocker bushings, but there is only a few thousand miles on
          the rocker assembly since the 1275 was built a few years ago.&nbs=
p;
          They are high ratio (1.5) rockers, but I don't think there is
          that much wear on them yet.&nbsp; The very first time I put oil i=
n
          the engine, the oil would fill the valve cover before it would
          eventually drain down in the block.&nbsp; When I built this engin=
e
          I went kinda crazy trying to lighten the valve train and
          installed hollow pushrods. Besides, they don't flex or bend.&nbsp=
;
          The problem is the holes that the pushrods pass through were
          enlarged, but apparently not large enough for oil to easily
          pass by.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
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              <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Saturday=
,
                  November 28, 2015 10:01 AM, Peter Caldwell
                  <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv7477804319=
moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wr=
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                    <div> And while loose, you can wiggle the rockers to
                      feel if maybe those bushings are worn, which can
                      be another reason the head gets flooded with oil<br c=
lear=3D"none">
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                      <div class=3D"yiv7477804319moz-cite-prefix">On
                        11/28/2015 11:53 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:<br clea=
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                    <div>
                      <div>"Palm to forehead", &nbsp;why didn't I think of
                        that? &nbsp;Thanks Peter for saving me all that wor=
k.
                        Besides, I would have to figure out how my new
                        electronic works.</div>
                      <div>Mike MacLean</div>
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                      Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting
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                      In those desperate times at a race, you loosen
                      adjusting nuts and slide the rocker to the side,
                      unless you have solid spacers.<br clear=3D"none">
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                      <div class=3D"yiv7477804319moz-cite-prefix">On
                        11/28/2015 11:27 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:<br clea=
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                      <div>I am not pulling the head. I may be wrong,
                        but I have to remove the head Stud nuts on the
                        pedastals to lift the rocker assembly off the
                        engine to replace the pushrods. &nbsp;I'm thinking
                        the other stud nuts have to be loosened also to
                        re-torque the head properly. Is there another
                        way to replace the pushrods without loosening
                        all the head nuts in sequence?</div>
                      <div>Mike MacLean</div>
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                      Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting
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                      Why pull the head at all?<br clear=3D"none">
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Peter Caldwell
World Wide Auto Parts of Madison WI
2517 Seiferth Rd
Madison  WI  53716
(608)223-9400
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Peter Caldwell
World Wide Auto Parts of Madison WI
2517 Seiferth Rd
Madison  WI  53716
(608)223-9400
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(We cheat; heated gear!!)

Ron Soave

> On Nov 28, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Michael MacLean <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>=20
> I have been riding motorcycles in California since 1971.  Anymore if the t=
emp goes below 45 degrees.I'm out.  I have an extended half shell helmet and=
 my ears are exposed.  Unless my ears are covered in less the 50 degrees it f=
eels like a blow torch on my ears.  Ron, you guys win.
> Mike MacLean
>=20
>=20
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> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:25 PM, Ron Soave <[email-masked]> wrot=
> 26 degrees and my wife and I rode one of the motorcycles 110 miles round t=
rip to breakfast. Same tomorrow, but 160 round trip. Game over.=20
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> Ron Soave
>=20
>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
>>=20
>> I'll have you now it is 62 degrees at this time. I am looking at the wind=
ow thermometer outside my bedroom (heated) window as I type.
>> Mike
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:49 AM, Rick Fisk <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> Cold garage?  In San Bernardino?  What - is it all the way down to 65 F? =
  LOL
>>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> You're going to make me go out in the cold garage and remove the valve c=
over and look to see what kind of spacers I have.
>>> Mike
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:15 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport=
.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Hmmm  some/most/all? high lift use solid spacers, so back to torquing, I=
 venture.
>>>> I will check the rocker bushings, but there is only a few thousand mile=
s on the rocker assembly since the 1275 was built a few years ago.  They are=
 high ratio (1.5) rockers, but I don't think there is that much wear on them=
 yet.  The very first time I put oil in the engine, the oil would fill the v=
alve cover before it would eventually drain down in the block.  When I built=
 this engine I went kinda crazy trying to lighten the valve train and instal=
led hollow pushrods. Besides, they don't flex or bend.  The problem is the h=
oles that the pushrods pass through were enlarged, but apparently not large e=
nough for oil to easily pass by.
>>>> Mike MacLean
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 10:01 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimpor=
>>>> "Palm to forehead",  why didn't I think of                         that=
?  Thanks Peter for saving me all that work. Besides, I would have to figure=
 out how my new electronic works.
>>>> Mike MacLean
>>>> To: "rrengineer.mike" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]=
et=20
>>>> In those desperate times at a race, you loosen adjusting nuts and slide=
 the rocker to the side, unless you have solid spacers.
>>>> I am not pulling the head. I may be wrong, but I have to remove the hea=
d Stud nuts on the pedastals to lift the rocker assembly off the engine to r=
eplace the pushrods.  I'm thinking the other stud nuts have to be loosened a=
lso to re-torque the head properly. Is there another way to replace the push=
rods without loosening all the head nuts in sequence?
>>>> Mike MacLean
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>(We cheat; heated gear!!)<br><br>Ron S=
oave</div><div><br>On Nov 28, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"color:#000; background=
-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:1=
6px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1448748321585_4516" dir=3D"ltr">I have been rid=
ing motorcycles in California since 1971.&nbsp; Anymore if the temp goes bel=
ow 45 degrees.I'm out.&nbsp; I have an extended half shell helmet and my ear=
s are exposed.&nbsp; Unless my ears are covered in less the 50 degrees it fe=
els like a blow torch on my ears.&nbsp; Ron, you guys win.</div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1448748321585_4630" dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br></div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1448748321585_4373"><span></span></div> <br><div class=3D"qtdS=
eparateBR"><br><br></div><div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D"yahoo_quote=
d"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font=
-size: 16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Hel=
vetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr=
"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:25 PM, R=
on Soave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></font></div> <blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 1=
6, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> <d=
iv class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv7477804319"><div><div>26 degrees a=
nd my wife and I rode one of the motorcycles 110 miles round trip to breakfa=
st. Same tomorrow, but 160 round trip. Game over.&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none"><b=
r clear=3D"none">Ron Soave</div><div class=3D"yiv7477804319yqt6739982433" id=
=3D"yiv7477804319yqt57913"><div><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 28, 2015, at 2:08 P=
M, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:spr=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"c=
olor:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times=
, serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_14=
48735926361_155282">I'll have you now it is 62 degrees at this time. I am lo=
oking at the window thermometer outside my bedroom (heated) window as I type=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_155283=
">Mike<br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_14487359=
26361_155284"><span></span></div> <br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv747780=
4319qtdSeparateBR"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D=
"yiv7477804319yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display:block;"> <div style=3D"font-fam=
ily:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style=3D"=
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ans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"=
> On Saturday, November 28, 2015 11:49 AM, Rick Fisk &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow"=
 shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></font></div> <blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16=
, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none"> <div class=3D"yiv7477804319y_msg_container"><div id=
=3D"yiv7477804319"><div><div>Cold garage? &nbsp;In San Bernardino? &nbsp;Wha=
t - is it all the way down to 65 F? &nbsp; LOL</div><div><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div>It's 34 F in my garage right at the moment.<br clear=3D"none"><br=
 clear=3D"none">Sent from my keyboard</div><div class=3D"yiv7477804319yqt126=
4883896" id=3D"yiv7477804319yqt56281"><div><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 28, 201=
5, at 2:20 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
 clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div=
 style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new y=
ork, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_1448=
735926361_84412">You're going to make me go out in the cold garage and remov=
e the valve cover and look to see what kind of spacers I have.</div><div id=3D=
"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_84413">Mike<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_84365"><span></span></di=
v> <br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv7477804319qtdSeparateBR"><br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv7477804319yahoo_quoted" sty=
le=3D"display:block;"> <div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, t=
imes, serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Saturday, November 28, 201=
5 11:15 AM, Peter Caldwell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:peter@nosimpor=
t.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></font></div> <b=
lockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;ma=
rgin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <div=
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    Hmmm&nbsp; some/most/all? high lift use solid spacers, so back to
    torquing, I venture.<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div class=3D"yiv7477804319yqt7921921946" id=3D"yiv7477804319yqt55144"><=
div class=3D"yiv7477804319moz-cite-prefix">On 11/28/2015 12:47 PM, Michael M=
acLean
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new r=
oman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7477804319yui_3_16_0_1_1448735926361_3088"=
>I will check
          the rocker bushings, but there is only a few thousand miles on
          the rocker assembly since the 1275 was built a few years ago.&nbsp=
;
          They are high ratio (1.5) rockers, but I don't think there is
          that much wear on them yet.&nbsp; The very first time I put oil in=

          the engine, the oil would fill the valve cover before it would
          eventually drain down in the block.&nbsp; When I built this engine=

          I went kinda crazy trying to lighten the valve train and
          installed hollow pushrods. Besides, they don't flex or bend.&nbsp;=

          The problem is the holes that the pushrods pass through were
          enlarged, but apparently not large enough for oil to easily
          pass by.</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br clear=3D"none">
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          <br clear=3D"none">
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          <div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;=
font-size:16px;">
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ca, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">
              <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Saturday,=

                  November 28, 2015 10:01 AM, Peter Caldwell
                  <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv7477804319m=
oz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote=
:<br clear=3D"none">
                </font></div>
              <blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16,        =
         255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <br clear=3D=
"none">
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                    <div> And while loose, you can wiggle the rockers to
                      feel if maybe those bushings are worn, which can
                      be another reason the head gets flooded with oil<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      <div class=3D"yiv7477804319moz-cite-prefix">On
                        11/28/2015 11:53 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none">
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                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div>"Palm to forehead", &nbsp;why didn't I think of
                        that? &nbsp;Thanks Peter for saving me all that work=
.
                        Besides, I would have to figure out how my new
                        electronic works.</div>
                      <div>Mike MacLean</div>
                      <div><br clear=3D"none">
                      </div>
                      <div><br clear=3D"none">
                      </div>
                      <div><br clear=3D"none">
                      </div>
                      <div id=3D"yiv7477804319composer_signature">
                        <div style=3D"font-size:85%;color:#575757;">Sent
                          via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&amp;T 4G
                          LTE smartphone</div>
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                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      -------- Original message --------<br clear=3D"none">
                      From: Peter Caldwell <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect=
" class=3D"yiv7477804319moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:peter@nosim=
port.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;peter@no=
simport.com&gt;</a>
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      Date: 11/28/2015 9:38 AM (GMT-08:00) <br clear=3D"none=
">
                      To: "rrengineer.mike" <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rec=
t" class=3D"yiv7477804319moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:rrengineer=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;</a>,
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319moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
.net</a>
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      In those desperate times at a race, you loosen
                      adjusting nuts and slide the rocker to the side,
                      unless you have solid spacers.<br clear=3D"none">
                      <br clear=3D"none">
                      <div class=3D"yiv7477804319moz-cite-prefix">On
                        11/28/2015 11:27 AM, rrengineer.mike wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none">
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type=3D"cite"> </blockquote>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div>I am not pulling the head. I may be wrong,
                        but I have to remove the head Stud nuts on the
                        pedastals to lift the rocker assembly off the
                        engine to replace the pushrods. &nbsp;I'm thinking
                        the other stud nuts have to be loosened also to
                        re-torque the head properly. Is there another
                        way to replace the pushrods without loosening
                        all the head nuts in sequence?</div>
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Peter Caldwell
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Peter Caldwell
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