Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Break-in

From: Michael Rowe via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 09:46:02 -0500

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I  find variations in the advice on breaking in a new 1275 engine.  Is there one place where all agree on how to do it?  

What should be done if the rings do not seat properly on the first try?

Michael Rowe

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I&nbsp; find variations in the advice on breaking in a new 
1275 engine.&nbsp; Is there one place where all agree on how to do it?&nbsp; 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>What should be done if the rings do not seat 
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 00:43:52 +0000 (UTC)

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Many will disagree with me but some (those with good engines - LOL) tend to=
 agree. =C2=A0You cannot break an engine in by driving it like you stole it=
 - you can kill it. =C2=A0For a street motor you want one that has the rubb=
ing surfaces which contain the microscopic peaks and valleys =C2=A0to be wo=
rn smooth gently. =C2=A0They do not want to be snapped off by revving the e=
ngine to its limits using an oil that could be used to dress a salad! =C2=
=A0The idea is to smooth things out and when they are, they will last longe=
r, you get more power output after 6 or 12 months, more miles per gallon an=
d an engine that breaks down less. For me, use a straight 30wt oil for arou=
nd 5 to 600 miles of peaceful driving then drain and flush and change oil f=
ilter. Replace with what ever oil you want to use in your little beastie an=
d drive peacefully for another 5-600 or so. =C2=A0After the oil change you =
can let the engine rev up to whatever it wants but at no time should you be=
 pushing it at no time should you be using more than 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. =
=C2=A0Downhill is the time to get the engine to high revs, get gravity doin=
g the work, drop into a lower gear to bring the revs up if you wish. =C2=A0=
Make sure you do this, it does need high revs but should not be straining t=
o get them.=C2=A0After your 1000 to 1200 miles you can give it a taste, you=
 can bring that smile up so it just fits between the ears but before then p=
lease treat your beastie nicely.If you do this you WILL have a sweet engine=
 that will serve you well for a long time. =C2=A0The rings will seat proper=
ly doing it this way. =C2=A0I wouldn't used synthetic oils until the 2nd oi=
l change, they are just too darned good for breaking an engine in.The drain=
 and flush and filter change is to get the inevitable metal filings out of =
the engine.Many will say I'm going over the top in doing all this BUT, all =
my new engines treated in a similar way have lasted. =C2=A0~It is only now,=
 after 2 years my Audi 3 litre diesel V6 is coming good and accelerates wel=
l from above the 70+ mark (What me break UK speed limits!!) and my last 127=
5 is still going strong after 15 years of continuous use.But each to their =
own, their way may work for them.
Guy R Day=20

     On Monday, 2 November 2015, 15:41, Bob Kitterer via Spridgets <spridge=
[email-masked]> wrote:
  =20

 Michael,
What kind of oil are you using? =C2=A0If it is synthetic the rings most lik=
ely will never seat. =C2=A0I use a good grade of petroleum oil for the firs=
t 1K miles. =C2=A0Limiting the rpm to 3 K for the first couple hundred mile=
s. Then slowly go to higher rpm for the remainder. =C2=A0Now I do break in'=
s for longevity so there will be other preferred methods.

Bob =C2=A0Kitterer
1960 Austin Healey Sprite=C2=A0(Mk IV in disguise)1966 Austin Healey Sprite=
 Mk=C2=A0III (Trevor) - still in boxes2013 Miata
Pay it ForwardThanks Frank

On Nov 2, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:

I=C2=A0 find variations in the advice on breaking in a new 1275 engine.=C2=
=A0 Is there one place where all agree on how to do it?=C2=A0 =C2=A0What sh=
ould be done if the rings do not seat properly=C2=A0on the first try?=C2=A0=
Michael Rowe
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Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144650732984=
1_4498"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4499">Many will disagree wit=
h me but some (those with good engines - LOL) tend to agree. &nbsp;You cann=
ot break an engine in by driving it like you stole it - you can kill it. &n=
bsp;For a street motor you want one that has the rubbing surfaces which con=
tain the microscopic peaks and valleys &nbsp;to be worn smooth gently. &nbs=
p;They do not want to be snapped off by revving the engine to its limits us=
ing an oil that could be used to dress a salad! &nbsp;The idea is to smooth=
 things out and when they are, they will last longer, you get more power ou=
tput after 6 or 12 months, more miles per gallon and an engine that breaks =
down less. For me, use a straight 30wt oil for around 5 to 600 miles of pea=
ceful driving then drain and flush and change oil filter. Replace with what=
 ever oil you want to use in your little beastie and drive peacefully for a=
nother 5-600 or so. &nbsp;After the oil change you can let the engine rev u=
p to whatever it wants but at no time should you be pushing it at no time s=
hould you be using more than 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. &nbsp;Downhill is the tim=
e to get the engine to high revs, get gravity doing the work, drop into a l=
ower gear to bring the revs up if you wish. &nbsp;Make sure you do this, it=
 does need high revs but should not be straining to get them.&nbsp;</span><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_5913">After your 1000 to 1200 miles you can give i=
t a taste, you can bring that smile up so it just fits between the ears but=
 before then please treat your beastie nicely.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329=
841_6346">If you do this you WILL have a sweet engine that will serve you w=
ell for a long time. &nbsp;The rings will seat properly doing it this way. =
&nbsp;I wouldn't used synthetic oils until the 2nd oil change, they are jus=
t too darned good for breaking an engine in.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144650732984=
1_6347">The drain and flush and filter change is to get the inevitable meta=
l filings out of the engine.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1446507329841_4498"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_6348">Many wil=
l say I'm going over the top in doing all this BUT, all my new engines trea=
ted in a similar way have lasted. &nbsp;~It is only now, after 2 years my A=
udi 3 litre diesel V6 is coming good and accelerates well from above the 70=
+ mark (What me break UK speed limits!!) and my last 1275 is still going st=
rong after 15 years of continuous use.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_7672=
">But each to their own, their way may work for them.</span></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span><br></span></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span>Guy R Day</span><=
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uoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue,=
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Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <fon=
t size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Monday, 2 November 2015, 15:41, Bob Kittere=
r via Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div> =
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v>Michael,</div><div id=3D"yiv8999363968AppleMailSignature"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div id=3D"yiv8999363968AppleMailSignature">What kind of oil are =
you using? &nbsp;If it is synthetic the rings most likely will never seat. =
&nbsp;I use a good grade of petroleum oil for the first 1K miles. &nbsp;Lim=
iting the rpm to 3 K for the first couple hundred miles. Then slowly go to =
higher rpm for the remainder. &nbsp;Now I do break in's for longevity so th=
ere will be other preferred methods.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><=
span style=3D"">Bob &nbsp;Kitterer</span><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt=
;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;">196=
0 Austin Healey Sprite&nbsp;(Mk IV in disguise)</span></div><div><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:13pt;">1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk&nbsp;III (Trevor) - stil=
l in boxes</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;">2013 Miata</spa=
n></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></di=
v><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;">Pay it Forward</span></div><div><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:13pt;">Thanks Frank</span><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
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99363968yqt19636"><div><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 2, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Micha=
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 20:10:32 -0800

Nobody going to mention Bonami. Worked for Chevy in 57.   Crash
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As I remember their advertising slogan was "hasn't scratched yet."
My mom said, "hasn't cleaned yet."
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