Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting

From: corvallis--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 04:50:27 -0800

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Some engines use the hollow push rods to lubricate the friction point at
either end of the push rod.  Bill in Oregon

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From: Spridgets [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of
rrengineer.mike via Spridgets
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:35 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Stud Torque Setting

I am removing the hollow tube pushrods from the 1275 in my Bug eye and
replacing them with standard solid pushrods.  I am doing this to prevent oil
from pooling on the top of the head.  This oil is being drawn into the
engine and hence the blue smoke on acceleration.   At least that is the
theory that David Anton agrees with.  The hollow pushrod diameter is not
much less than the hole in the head it passes through.  When I change the
oil it takes forever for the oil to drain down into the engine.  What I am
asking is about the torque setting for the head nuts.  My Haynes manual says
42 ft/pd or 50 ft/pd for studs marked "22" or have a drill point.  What are
they talking about?

Mike MacLean

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lubricate the friction point at either end of the push rod.&nbsp; Bill =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Spridgets] Head =
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Torque Setting</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I am removing the hollow tube pushrods from the 1275 in my Bug =
eye and
replacing them with standard solid pushrods. &nbsp;I am doing this to =
prevent
oil from pooling on the top of the head. &nbsp;This oil is being drawn =
into the
engine and hence the blue smoke on acceleration. &nbsp; At least that is =
the
theory that David Anton agrees with. &nbsp;The hollow pushrod diameter =
is not
much less than the hole in the head it passes through. &nbsp;When I =
change the
oil it takes forever for the oil to drain down into the engine. =
&nbsp;What I am
asking is about the torque setting for the head nuts. &nbsp;My Haynes =
manual
says 42 ft/pd or 50 ft/pd for studs marked &quot;22&quot; or have a =
drill
point. &nbsp;What are they talking about?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 08:34:00 -0500

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This photo is of the head on my newly acquired '72 Midget.  I pulled the roc=
ker cover to adjust the valves.  See the dimples in the top of the head stud=
s?  These studs get torqued to  50 lb/ft.

What else do you see wrong on this head?  This is just as I found it when I p=
ulled the cover.  The previous owner said he couldn't get the engine to run r=
ight.  The valves were all adjusted to 0.006 or 0.007".=20

Sent from my keyboard

> On Nov 28, 2015, at 7:34 AM, rrengineer.mike via Spridgets <spridgets@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> I am removing the hollow tube pushrods from the 1275 in my Bug eye and rep=
lacing them with standard solid pushrods.  I am doing this to prevent oil fr=
om pooling on the top of the head.  This oil is being drawn into the engine a=
nd hence the blue smoke on acceleration.   At least that is the theory that D=
avid Anton agrees with.  The hollow pushrod diameter is not much less than t=
he hole in the head it passes through.  When I change the oil it takes forev=
er for the oil to drain down into the engine.  What I am asking is about the=
 torque setting for the head nuts.  My Haynes manual says 42 ft/pd or 50 ft/=
pd for studs marked "22" or have a drill point.  What are they talking about=
?
> Mike MacLean
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>=20
> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>This photo is of the head on my newly a=
cquired '72 Midget. &nbsp;I pulled the rocker cover to adjust the valves. &n=
bsp;See the dimples in the top of the head studs? &nbsp;These studs get torq=
ued to &nbsp;50 lb/ft.</div><div><br></div><div>What else do you see wrong o=
n this head? &nbsp;This is just as I found it when I pulled the cover. &nbsp=
;The previous owner said he couldn't get the engine to run right. &nbsp;The v=
alves were all adjusted to 0.006 or 0.007".&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><=
img src=3D"cid:8E422275-2DBF-4BC7-8656-136467B9EB48" alt=3D"image1.JPG" id=3D=
"8E422275-2DBF-4BC7-8656-136467B9EB48"><br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><d=
iv><br>On Nov 28, 2015, at 7:34 AM, rrengineer.mike via Spridgets &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Ty=
pe" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8">
   =20
<div><br></div><div>I am removing the hollow tube pushrods from the 1275 in m=
y Bug eye and replacing them with standard solid pushrods. &nbsp;I am doing t=
his to prevent oil from pooling on the top of the head. &nbsp;This oil is be=
ing drawn into the engine and hence the blue smoke on acceleration. &nbsp; A=
t least that is the theory that David Anton agrees with. &nbsp;The hollow pu=
shrod diameter is not much less than the hole in the head it passes through.=
 &nbsp;When I change the oil it takes forever for the oil to drain down into=
 the engine. &nbsp;What I am asking is about the torque setting for the head=
 nuts. &nbsp;My Haynes manual says 42 ft/pd or 50 ft/pd for studs marked "22=
" or have a drill point. &nbsp;What are they talking about?</div><div>Mike M=
acLean</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id=3D"composer_signature"><di=
v style=3D"font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5=
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From: Peter Caldwell via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 08:30:37 -0600

Why pull the head at all?

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From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 09:26:55 -0600

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Missing rocker nuts 1&4, use of nylok on others, double nut on yet another. S=
weet!

Ron Soave

> On Nov 28, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:
>=20
> This photo is of the head on my newly acquired '72 Midget.  I pulled the r=
ocker cover to adjust the valves.  See the dimples in the top of the head st=
uds?  These studs get torqued to  50 lb/ft.
>=20
> What else do you see wrong on this head?  This is just as I found it when I=
 pulled the cover.  The previous owner said he couldn't get the engine to ru=
n right.  The valves were all adjusted to 0.006 or 0.007".=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Sent from my keyboard
>=20
>> On Nov 28, 2015, at 7:34 AM, rrengineer.mike via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> I am removing the hollow tube pushrods from the 1275 in my Bug eye and re=
placing them with standard solid pushrods.  I am doing this to prevent oil f=
rom pooling on the top of the head.  This oil is being drawn into the engine=
 and hence the blue smoke on acceleration.   At least that is the theory tha=
t David Anton agrees with.  The hollow pushrod diameter is not much less tha=
n the hole in the head it passes through.  When I change the oil it takes fo=
rever for the oil to drain down into the engine.  What I am asking is about t=
he torque setting for the head nuts.  My Haynes manual says 42 ft/pd or 50 f=
t/pd for studs marked "22" or have a drill point.  What are they talking abo=
ut?
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refis=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Missing rocker nuts 1&amp;4, use of ny=
lok on others, double nut on yet another. Sweet!<br><br>Ron Soave</div><div>=
<br>On Nov 28, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>=
</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" conte=
nt=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div>This photo is of the head on my newly=
 acquired '72 Midget. &nbsp;I pulled the rocker cover to adjust the valves. &=
nbsp;See the dimples in the top of the head studs? &nbsp;These studs get tor=
qued to &nbsp;50 lb/ft.</div><div><br></div><div>What else do you see wrong o=
n this head? &nbsp;This is just as I found it when I pulled the cover. &nbsp=
;The previous owner said he couldn't get the engine to run right. &nbsp;The v=
alves were all adjusted to 0.006 or 0.007".&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><=
img src=3D"cid:8E422275-2DBF-4BC7-8656-136467B9EB48" alt=3D"image1.JPG" id=3D=
"8E422275-2DBF-4BC7-8656-136467B9EB48"><br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><d=
iv><br>On Nov 28, 2015, at 7:34 AM, rrengineer.mike via Spridgets &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Ty=
pe" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8">
   =20
<div><br></div><div>I am removing the hollow tube pushrods from the 1275 in m=
y Bug eye and replacing them with standard solid pushrods. &nbsp;I am doing t=
his to prevent oil from pooling on the top of the head. &nbsp;This oil is be=
ing drawn into the engine and hence the blue smoke on acceleration. &nbsp; A=
t least that is the theory that David Anton agrees with. &nbsp;The hollow pu=
shrod diameter is not much less than the hole in the head it passes through.=
 &nbsp;When I change the oil it takes forever for the oil to drain down into=
 the engine. &nbsp;What I am asking is about the torque setting for the head=
 nuts. &nbsp;My Haynes manual says 42 ft/pd or 50 ft/pd for studs marked "22=
" or have a drill point. &nbsp;What are they talking about?</div><div>Mike M=
acLean</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id=3D"composer_signature"><di=
v style=3D"font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5=
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