Subject: [Spridgets] WTF is going on?? Lower Fulcrum Pin..

From: "bmwwxman . via Spridgets" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:57:53 -0500

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I had disassembled the front suspension on both sides and actually had no
trouble getting the fulcrum pins unscrewed after removing the two cotter
keys (maybe "cotter pin" is a better description of them)? On re-assembly
starting with the left front and my new "Peter Built" shocks, new brake
disks and new wheel bearings and seals I screwed the fulcrum pin in as far
as it would go (It went in easily) then realized I had not centered the
hollow on the fulcrum pin so the cotter pin could be inserted through the
king pin. No problem I thought... (yeah... sure!) Just unscrew the fulcrum
pin and put it back in more carefully so that the cotter pin can be
inserted. It wouldn't budge. Got the biggest, nastiest straight blade screw
driver (think BFS here) I could find but still no luck. Now I can't get the
fulcrum pin to unscrew!! But it came out easily and went back in easily!
What has changed?? I haven't tried heat yet but did soak it with PB Blaster
to no avail. Anybody else been here before?? WWFD?? I hate to use a sawzall
on the fulcrum pin because everything fit so well going back together.
Thinking of using an impact driver on it to see if that will free it.

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Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
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*"Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they
look forward to the trip."*

*Winston Churchill*

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:14px">I had disassembled the front suspension on bot=
h sides and actually had no trouble getting the fulcrum pins unscrewed afte=
r removing the two cotter keys (maybe &quot;cotter pin&quot; is a better de=
scription of them)? On re-assembly starting with the left front and my new =
&quot;Peter Built&quot; shocks, new brake disks and new wheel bearings and =
seals I screwed the fulcrum pin in as far as it would go (It went in easily=
) then realized I had not centered the hollow on the fulcrum pin so the cot=
ter pin could be inserted through the king pin. No problem I thought... (ye=
ah... sure!) Just unscrew the fulcrum pin and put it back in more carefully=
 so that the cotter pin can be inserted. It wouldn&#39;t budge. Got the big=
gest, nastiest straight blade screw driver (think BFS here) I could find bu=
t still no luck. Now I can&#39;t get the fulcrum pin to unscrew!! But it ca=
me out easily and went back in easily! What has changed?? I haven&#39;t tri=
ed heat yet but did soak it with PB Blaster to no avail. Anybody else been =
here before?? WWFD?? I hate to use a sawzall on the fulcrum pin because eve=
rything fit so well going back together. Thinking of using an impact driver=
 on it to see if that will free it.=C2=A0</span><br clear=3D"all"><div><br>=
</div>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers!!<br>Ji=
m Johnson<br><a href=3D"http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org" target=3D"_bl=
ank">High Plains Youth Hockey</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.DodgeCityTrailof=
Fame.org" target=3D"_blank">Dodge City Trail of Fame </a><br><a href=3D"htt=
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teorology</a><br><br><font size=3D"2" color=3D"black" face=3D"arial"><font =
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  trip.&quot;</b></font></u></div>

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<div><font size=3D"3"><b></b></font>=C2=A0</div>

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From: Mark Haynes via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:59:34 GMT

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Jim- I 'd baulk at using an impact driver since the fulcrum pin has to b=
ack out towards the impact. Does the pin move when you rotate the kingpi=
n? I found that I could move the fulcrum pin along with the kingpin, and=
 then was able to hold the fulcrum pin as I rotated the kingpin back and=
 repeated until they moved independently., Alternatively, does the pin l=
oosen as you wiggle the kingpin? in other words, as you wiggle the kingp=
in, can you get the fulcrum pin to rotate just a bit?

Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 10:57:03 -050=
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e, Leo. It came out and went back in so easily ( Icould turn it with my =
fingers) that I was fooled into thinking I wouldn'tneed it.  Hadn't put =
the springs in yet, David.  I sacrificed two virginsand a fatted Hip-Hop=
 singer, Billy.  Thought that would be enough!  I thinkI know where I ca=
n get a little liquid nitrogen but will try my impactscrew driver first.=
Thanks everyone!Cheers!!Jim
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<html><div>Jim- I 'd baulk at using an impact driver since the fulcrum p=
in has to back out towards the impact. Does the pin move when you rotate=
 the kingpin? I found that I could move the fulcrum pin along with the k=
ingpin, and then was able to hold the fulcrum pin as I rotated the kingp=
in back and repeated until they moved independently., Alternatively, doe=
s the pin loosen as you wiggle the kingpin? in other words, as you wiggl=
e the kingpin, can you get the fulcrum pin to rotate just a bit?<br><br>=
<br>Mark Haynes<br>It only goes one way-Pay it Forward</div><div>&nbsp;<=
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Did not use neverseize, Leo. It came out and went back in so easily ( I
could turn it with my fingers) that I was fooled into thinking I wouldn'=
t
need it.  Hadn't put the springs in yet, David.  I sacrificed two virgin=
s
and a fatted Hip-Hop singer, Billy.  Thought that would be enough!  I th=
ink
I know where I can get a little liquid nitrogen but will try my impact
screw driver first.

Thanks everyone!

Cheers!!
Jim</pre></html>

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From: WeslakeMonza1330--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 17:36:02 -0400

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I think the bronze pins are rare and NLA with all the new ones being  steel.

In a message dated 14/07/2015 11:26:43 GMT Daylight Time,  
[email-masked] writes:

Jim,

Heat will most likely not work.  The pin should be bronze and will  expand 
faster than the steel just making the fit tighter.  When I had  this problem 
I was able to cool the pin enough for it to come out but I had to  use 
liquid nitrogen to get it cool enough.  Perhaps a aerosol can of  coolest will 
work using the tube for the can nozzle to spray in the hole going  the length 
of the pin.

Bob Kitterer
1960 Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1967 Sprite Mk III
2013 Miata

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<DIV>I think the bronze pins are rare and NLA with all the new ones being=
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steel.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 14/07/2015 11:26:43 GMT Daylight Time,=20
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  <DIV>Jim,</DIV>
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  <DIV>Heat will most likely not work. &nbsp;The pin should be bronze and=
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  <DIV>Bob Kitterer</DIV>
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  <DIV>1967 Sprite Mk III</DIV>
  <DIV>2013 Miata</DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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From: Bob Kitterer via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 15:39:39 -0700

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Just shows how old I am =F0=9F=98=92=F0=9F=98=92=F0=9F=98=92

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 14, 2015, at 2:36 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
>=20
> I think the bronze pins are rare and NLA with all the new ones being steel=
.
> =20
> In a message dated 14/07/2015 11:26:43 GMT Daylight Time, spridgets@autox.=
team.net writes:
> Jim,
>=20
> Heat will most likely not work.  The pin should be bronze and will expand f=
aster than the steel just making the fit tighter.  When I had this problem I=
 was able to cool the pin enough for it to come out but I had to use liquid n=
itrogen to get it cool enough.  Perhaps a aerosol can of coolest will work u=
sing the tube for the can nozzle to spray in the hole going the length of th=
e pin.
> 1960 Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)

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steel.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
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  <div>Jim,</div>
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  <div>Heat will most likely not work. &nbsp;The pin should be bronze and wi=
ll=20
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  the length of the pin.</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Bob Kitterer</div>
  <div>1960 Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)</div>
  <div>1967 Sprite Mk III</div>
  <div>2013 Miata</div></font></blockquote></div></font></div></blockquote><=
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From: WeslakeMonza1330--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
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The clips to secure the rubber boots on the rod ends?

In a message dated 14/07/2015 23:58:03 GMT Daylight Time,  
[email-masked] writes:

The look  like two wire loops about 1.5 inches in diameter.  Anyone know 
what those  are for??

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<DIV>The clips to secure the rubber boots on the rod ends?</DIV>
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