Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brand new Facet fuel pump problem, no power.

From: Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 19:38:00 -0700

Is it fused?
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From: Bob Kitterer via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 19:48:40 -0700

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Hi Lin,

Have you disconnect the fuel line at the carbs just be sure the pump is =
not working?  Probably a stupid question but just in case.

Bob  Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2013 Miata

> On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Guys,
> This afternoon I ran my Sprite's fuel tank dry after driving her =
without a problem over the weekend a short distance. It was my fault as =
I swapped to my old loose gas cap during the day because it was "pretty" =
(for me pretty stupid) and that allowed the fuel tank with little gas to =
dry out. My Sprite ran fine until there was no fuel while sitting in the =
driveway today. I know my old 2 yr old Facet pump is dead because it no =
longer makes any noise  which it always does when I turn the key prior =
to starting.
>=20
> I quickly went to the NAPA store and purchased another near exact =
Facet pump "Posi-Flow" and installed it to the exact location as the =
broken one. I connected everything exactly as the previous pump and put =
2 gallons of gas in the tank, l reinstalled the rear wheel lowered the =
jack and reconnected the battery terminal. I turned the key and I get =
nothing, no sound what-so-ever. I have headlights the starter works and =
the blinkers too but I hear nothing out of the pump which is usually =
loud from inside the car.
>=20
> I then thought maybe there was nothing wrong with the old one but I =
put 12 volts on it with another battery and nothing, so it was clearly =
burned out.=20
>=20
> Tomorrow I'm going to run another ground wire from the black ground on =
the pump directly to the negative terminal of the battery to be sure I =
have contact for ground as it is only connected to the bolt as the prior =
pump was and I will also run another wire to the red power on the pump =
directly to the positive terminal of the battery. Other than that I'm =
stumped. I'll also call Facet for suggestions.
>=20
> Am I missing anything? Could the pump be bad? I'm guessing yes but a =
long shot.
>=20
> How can I test the new pump other than running the connections =
directly to the battery?
>=20
> Thanks in advance.
> Lin
>=20
> 62 Sprite 1275 engine, negative ground
>=20
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class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Bob &nbsp;Kitterer<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">1960 Austin Healey Sprite&nbsp;(Mk IV in =
disguise)<br class=3D"">1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk&nbsp;III (Trevor) - =
still in boxes</div></div></div></div><div class=3D"">2013 =
Miata</div></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></spa=
n></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span>
</span></div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">Hi Guys,<div class=3D"">This afternoon I ran my Sprite's fuel =
tank dry after driving her without a problem over the weekend a short =
distance. It was my fault as I swapped to my old loose gas cap during =
the day because it was "pretty" (for me pretty stupid) and that allowed =
the fuel tank with little gas to dry out. My Sprite ran fine until there =
was no fuel while sitting in the driveway today. I know my old 2 yr old =
Facet pump is dead because it no longer makes any noise &nbsp;which it =
always does when I turn the key prior to starting.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I quickly went to the =
NAPA store and purchased another near exact Facet pump "Posi-Flow" and =
installed it to the exact location as the broken one. I connected =
everything exactly as the previous pump and put 2 gallons of gas in the =
tank, l reinstalled the rear wheel lowered the jack and reconnected the =
battery terminal. I turned the key and I get nothing, no sound =
what-so-ever. I have headlights the starter works and the blinkers too =
but I hear nothing out of the pump which is usually loud from inside the =
car.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I then =
thought maybe there was nothing wrong with the old one but I put 12 =
volts on it with another battery and nothing, so it was clearly burned =
out.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Tomorrow I'm going to run another ground wire from the black =
ground on the pump directly to the negative terminal of the battery to =
be sure I have contact for ground as it is only connected to the bolt as =
the prior pump was and I will also run another wire to the red power on =
the pump directly to the positive terminal of the battery. Other than =
that I'm stumped. I'll also call Facet for suggestions.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Am I missing anything? =
Could the pump be bad? I'm guessing yes but a long shot.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">How can I test the new =
pump other than running the connections directly to the =
battery?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks =
in advance.</div><div class=3D"">Lin</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">62 Sprite 1275 engine, negative =
ground<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>-- <br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:small" class=3D"">"Pay =
if forward" in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut</span><br =
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From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 21:49:32 -0500

Beat me to it. 

Ron Soave

> On Jul 23, 2015, at 9:38 PM, Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Is it fused?
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From: Kevin Valentine via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:54:04 -0400

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Lin,

First thing, check the wire at the fuel pump with a meter or test light to
see if you have power there when the key is on.

If there is power at the pump with the key on,   then either the ground is
bad at the pump or the pump is bad.

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> This afternoon I ran my Sprite's fuel tank dry after driving her without a
> problem over the weekend a short distance. It was my fault as I swapped to
> my old loose gas cap during the day because it was "pretty" (for me pretty
> stupid) and that allowed the fuel tank with little gas to dry out. My
> Sprite ran fine until there was no fuel while sitting in the driveway
> today. I know my old 2 yr old Facet pump is dead because it no longer makes
> any noise  which it always does when I turn the key prior to starting.
>
> I quickly went to the NAPA store and purchased another near exact Facet
> pump "Posi-Flow" and installed it to the exact location as the broken one.
> I connected everything exactly as the previous pump and put 2 gallons of
> gas in the tank, l reinstalled the rear wheel lowered the jack and
> reconnected the battery terminal. I turned the key and I get nothing, no
> sound what-so-ever. I have headlights the starter works and the blinkers
> too but I hear nothing out of the pump which is usually loud from inside
> the car.
>
> I then thought maybe there was nothing wrong with the old one but I put 12
> volts on it with another battery and nothing, so it was clearly burned out.
>
> Tomorrow I'm going to run another ground wire from the black ground on the
> pump directly to the negative terminal of the battery to be sure I have
> contact for ground as it is only connected to the bolt as the prior pump
> was and I will also run another wire to the red power on the pump directly
> to the positive terminal of the battery. Other than that I'm stumped. I'll
> also call Facet for suggestions.
>
> Am I missing anything? Could the pump be bad? I'm guessing yes but a long
> shot.
>
> How can I test the new pump other than running the connections directly to
> the battery?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Lin
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Lin,<div><br></div><div>First thing, check the wire at the=
 fuel pump with a meter or test light to see if you have power there when t=
he key is on. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>If there is power at the pump=
 with the key on, =C2=A0 then either the ground is bad at the pump or the p=
ump is bad.</div><div><br></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa</div>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul=
 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Hi Guys,<div>This afternoon I ran my Sprite&#39;s fuel tank dry a=
fter driving her without a problem over the weekend a short distance. It wa=
s my fault as I swapped to my old loose gas cap during the day because it w=
as &quot;pretty&quot; (for me pretty stupid) and that allowed the fuel tank=
 with little gas to dry out. My Sprite ran fine until there was no fuel whi=
le sitting in the driveway today. I know my old 2 yr old Facet pump is dead=
 because it no longer makes any noise =C2=A0which it always does when I tur=
n the key prior to starting.</div><div><br></div><div>I quickly went to the=
 NAPA store and purchased another near exact Facet pump &quot;Posi-Flow&quo=
t; and installed it to the exact location as the broken one. I connected ev=
erything exactly as the previous pump and put 2 gallons of gas in the tank,=
 l reinstalled the rear wheel lowered the jack and reconnected the battery =
terminal. I turned the key and I get nothing, no sound what-so-ever. I have=
 headlights the starter works and the blinkers too but I hear nothing out o=
f the pump which is usually loud from inside the car.</div><div><br></div><=
div>I then thought maybe there was nothing wrong with the old one but I put=
 12 volts on it with another battery and nothing, so it was clearly burned =
out.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Tomorrow I&#39;m going to run another g=
round wire from the black ground on the pump directly to the negative termi=
nal of the battery to be sure I have contact for ground as it is only conne=
cted to the bolt as the prior pump was and I will also run another wire to =
the red power on the pump directly to the positive terminal of the battery.=
 Other than that I&#39;m stumped. I&#39;ll also call Facet for suggestions.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Am I missing anything? Could the pump be bad? I&#=
39;m guessing yes but a long shot.</div><div><br></div><div>How can I test =
the new pump other than running the connections directly to the battery?</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance.</div><div>Lin</div><div><br></div=
><div>62 Sprite 1275 engine, negative ground<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font co=
lor=3D"#888888"><br><div><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span =
style=3D"font-size:small">&quot;Pay if forward&quot; in honor of Frank Clar=
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 23:28:38 -0400

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No Billy it's not fused and neither was the other one. I did read the
directions (first time yes I'm foolish) last night and it did say to add a
3 to 5 amp fuse. I'm assuming anywhere in the power line for that fuse or
should it be closer to the power or to the pump? I will pick up an ago fuse
line today but I would think it should still turn on without it.
Lin

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<div dir=3D"ltr">No Billy it&#39;s not fused and neither was the other one.=
 I did read the directions (first time yes I&#39;m foolish) last night and =
it did say to add a 3 to 5 amp fuse. I&#39;m assuming anywhere in the power=
 line for that fuse or should it be closer to the power or to the pump? I w=
ill pick up an ago fuse line today but I would think it should still turn o=
n without it.<div>Lin</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Billy Zoom <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">billy=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
Is it fused?<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:small">&quot=
;Pay if forward&quot; in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut</span><br></=
div></div>
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Hi Bob,
What do you mean by "disconnect the fuel line at the carbs just be sure the
pump is not working?". I have a set of plastic clamps used to temporary
hold rubber lines like fuel or brake lines in order to swap out parts. I
should get some sound out of the pump when I turn the key. Sounds stupid
that I didn't try and start the car as I did pull the starter and she
turned on but i knew the pump had to make some noise to prove it is pumping
fuel. I didn't want to run the battery down so I didn't attempt to try and
start it. I'll feel like an ass if the reply from Facet says the mew pumps
are completely silent. LOL.
Lin

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Bob Kitterer via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hi Lin,
>
> Have you disconnect the fuel line at the carbs just be sure the pump is
> On Jul 23, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/[email-masked]
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bob,=C2=A0<div>What do you mean by &quot;disconnect the=
 fuel line at the carbs just be sure the pump is not working?&quot;. I have=
 a set of plastic clamps used to temporary hold rubber lines like fuel or b=
rake lines in order to swap out parts. I should get some sound out of the p=
ump when I turn the key. Sounds stupid that I didn&#39;t try and start the =
car as I did pull the starter and she turned on but i knew the pump had to =
make some noise to prove it is pumping fuel. I didn&#39;t want to run the b=
attery down so I didn&#39;t attempt to try and start it. I&#39;ll feel like=
 an ass if the reply from Facet says the mew pumps are=C2=A0completely sile=
nt. LOL.<div>Lin</div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Bob Kitterer via Spridge=
ts <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Hi Lin,<div><br></div=
><div>Have you disconnect the fuel line at the carbs just be sure the pump =
is not working?=C2=A0 Probably a stupid question but just in case.</div><di=
v><br><div><br><div>
<span style=3D"font-size:14px"><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-w=
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to;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;=
border-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span style=3D"bord=
er-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-style:normal;f=
ont-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:nor=
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:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-=
word"><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:=
Arial;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-t=
ransform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-w=
eight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-=
transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"><div=
 style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;f=
ont-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;=
text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"=
><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span style=3D"border-collapse:separat=
e;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:nor=
mal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent=
:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing=
:0px"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span style=3D"border-collapse:se=
parate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-varian=
t:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-i=
ndent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-sp=
acing:0px"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span style=3D"border-collap=
se:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-v=
ariant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;t=
ext-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;bord=
er-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span style=3D"border-c=
ollapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;f=
ont-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:nor=
mal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px=
;border-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span style=3D"bor=
der-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:nor=
mal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-heigh=
t:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;border-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><di=
v><div>Bob =C2=A0Kitterer<br><br>1960 Austin Healey Sprite=C2=A0(Mk IV in d=
isguise)<br>1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk=C2=A0III (Trevor) - still in boxes=
</div></div></div></div><div>2013 Miata</div></div></span></div></span></di=
v></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span><=
/div></span></div></span>
</span></div>
<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div>On Jul 23, 2=
015, at 6:32 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sprid=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:</div><br></div></div><div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Gu=
ys,<div>This afternoon I ran my Sprite&#39;s fuel tank dry after driving he=
r without a problem over the weekend a short distance. It was my fault as I=
 swapped to my old loose gas cap during the day because it was &quot;pretty=
&quot; (for me pretty stupid) and that allowed the fuel tank with little ga=
s to dry out. My Sprite ran fine until there was no fuel while sitting in t=
he driveway today. I know my old 2 yr old Facet pump is dead because it no =
longer makes any noise =C2=A0which it always does when I turn the key prior=
 to starting.</div><div><br></div><div>I quickly went to the NAPA store and=
 purchased another near exact Facet pump &quot;Posi-Flow&quot; and installe=
d it to the exact location as the broken one. I connected everything exactl=
y as the previous pump and put 2 gallons of gas in the tank, l reinstalled =
the rear wheel lowered the jack and reconnected the battery terminal. I tur=
ned the key and I get nothing, no sound what-so-ever. I have headlights the=
 starter works and the blinkers too but I hear nothing out of the pump whic=
h is usually loud from inside the car.</div><div><br></div><div>I then thou=
ght maybe there was nothing wrong with the old one but I put 12 volts on it=
 with another battery and nothing, so it was clearly burned out.=C2=A0</div=
><div><br></div><div>Tomorrow I&#39;m going to run another ground wire from=
 the black ground on the pump directly to the negative terminal of the batt=
ery to be sure I have contact for ground as it is only connected to the bol=
t as the prior pump was and I will also run another wire to the red power o=
n the pump directly to the positive terminal of the battery. Other than tha=
t I&#39;m stumped. I&#39;ll also call Facet for suggestions.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Am I missing anything? Could the pump be bad? I&#39;m guessing y=
es but a long shot.</div><div><br></div><div>How can I test the new pump ot=
her than running the connections directly to the battery?</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Thanks in advance.</div><div>Lin</div><div><br></div><div>62 Sprite=
 1275 engine, negative ground<br><div><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:small">&quot;Pay if forward&quot; in hono=
r of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut</span><br></div></div>
</div></div></div></div></div>
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From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 07:14:33 -0400

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Hi Kevin,
That is the type of answer I am looking for. Now I don't want to sound
stupid but will I get a 12 volt read if I place the multimeter leads one at
the red power line and one at the black ground line and turn the key (which
I will try this boring before work)?
Lin

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Kevin Valentine <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>> This afternoon I ran my Sprite's fuel tank dry after driving her without
>> a problem over the weekend a short distance. It was my fault as I swapped
>> to my old loose gas cap during the day because it was "pretty" (for me
>> pretty stupid) and that allowed the fuel tank with little gas to dry out.
>> My Sprite ran fine until there was no fuel while sitting in the driveway
>> I then thought maybe there was nothing wrong with the old one but I put
>> 12 volts on it with another battery and nothing, so it was clearly burned
>> out.
>>
>> Tomorrow I'm going to run another ground wire from the black ground on
>> the pump directly to the negative terminal of the battery to be sure I have
>> How can I test the new pump other than running the connections directly
>> to the battery?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Lin
>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Kevin,<div>That is the type of answer I am looking for.=
 Now I don&#39;t want to sound stupid but will I get a 12 volt read if I pl=
ace the multimeter leads one at the red power line and one at the black gro=
und line and turn the key (which I will try this boring before work)?=C2=A0=
</div><div>Lin</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Kevin Valentine <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">kevinv1275@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Lin,<div><br></div><div>First thing, check the wire at the fuel pu=
mp with a meter or test light to see if you have power there when the key i=
s on. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>If there is power at the pump with th=
e key on, =C2=A0 then either the ground is bad at the pump or the pump is b=
ad.</div><div><br></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa</div></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"=
h5">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Guys,<div>Th=
is afternoon I ran my Sprite&#39;s fuel tank dry after driving her without =
a problem over the weekend a short distance. It was my fault as I swapped t=
o my old loose gas cap during the day because it was &quot;pretty&quot; (fo=
r me pretty stupid) and that allowed the fuel tank with little gas to dry o=
ut. My Sprite ran fine until there was no fuel while sitting in the drivewa=
y today. I know my old 2 yr old Facet pump is dead because it no longer mak=
es any noise =C2=A0which it always does when I turn the key prior to starti=
ng.</div><div><br></div><div>I quickly went to the NAPA store and purchased=
 another near exact Facet pump &quot;Posi-Flow&quot; and installed it to th=
e exact location as the broken one. I connected everything exactly as the p=
revious pump and put 2 gallons of gas in the tank, l reinstalled the rear w=
heel lowered the jack and reconnected the battery terminal. I turned the ke=
y and I get nothing, no sound what-so-ever. I have headlights the starter w=
orks and the blinkers too but I hear nothing out of the pump which is usual=
ly loud from inside the car.</div><div><br></div><div>I then thought maybe =
there was nothing wrong with the old one but I put 12 volts on it with anot=
her battery and nothing, so it was clearly burned out.=C2=A0</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Tomorrow I&#39;m going to run another ground wire from the black=
 ground on the pump directly to the negative terminal of the battery to be =
sure I have contact for ground as it is only connected to the bolt as the p=
rior pump was and I will also run another wire to the red power on the pump=
 directly to the positive terminal of the battery. Other than that I&#39;m =
stumped. I&#39;ll also call Facet for suggestions.</div><div><br></div><div=
>Am I missing anything? Could the pump be bad? I&#39;m guessing yes but a l=
ong shot.</div><div><br></div><div>How can I test the new pump other than r=
unning the connections directly to the battery?</div><div><br></div><div>Th=
anks in advance.</div><div>Lin</div><div><br></div><div>62 Sprite 1275 engi=
ne, negative ground<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br><div><div><br></div>--=
 <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:small">&quot;Pay if for=
ward&quot; in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut</span><br></div></div>
</div></font></span></div></div>
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Hi Bill,
Oh crap are you saying it could be pumping after all? I do have a clear
fuel filter in line, I'll turn it on and see if after a few try's to start
if it runs dry in the filter. Also using my multimeter.
Lin

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Bill Miller - LBCs via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> The new pumps are remarkably quiet compared to the older ones=E2=80=A6
>
> -Bill Miller
>
>
>
> ------------------------
>
> [email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bill,<div>Oh crap are you saying it could be pumping af=
ter all? I do have a clear fuel filter in line, I&#39;ll turn it on and see=
 if after a few try&#39;s to start if it runs dry in the filter. Also using=
 my multimeter.=C2=A0</div><div>Lin</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Bill Miller=
 - LBCs via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrot=
e:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlin=
k=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">The new=
 pumps are remarkably quiet compared to the older ones=E2=80=A6</span><span=
 style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#=
1f497d">-Bill Miller<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div></div></div><br>--------------------=
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From: Kevin Valentine via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
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Yes, it should get 12 volts with the key on.

If you don't get a reading using the power wire and the ground wire, try
connecting the leads to the power wire and ground the other to the body of
the car.  If you get a reading using the body as a ground then you have a
bad ground at the tank.

Also, if the car was wired for an electric fuel pump at the factory, it
should have a white wire (on when the ignition is on) for the power supply
to the pump.  Of course the wire you have could have been added or changed
before you got the car.

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>> First thing, check the wire at the fuel pump with a meter or test light
>> to see if you have power there when the key is on.
>>
>> If there is power at the pump with the key on,   then either the ground
>> is bad at the pump or the pump is bad.
>>
>> Kevin V.
>> Tuscarora, Pa
>>
>>> Am I missing anything? Could the pump be bad? I'm guessing yes but a
>>> long shot.
>>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, it should get 12 volts with the key on.=C2=A0=C2=A0<d=
iv><br></div><div>If you don&#39;t get a reading using the power wire and t=
he ground wire, try connecting the leads to the power wire and ground the o=
ther to the body of the car.=C2=A0 If you get a reading using the body as a=
 ground then you have a bad ground at the tank.<div><br></div><div>Also, if=
 the car was wired for an electric fuel pump at the factory, it should have=
 a white wire (on when the ignition is on) for the power supply to the pump=
.=C2=A0 Of course the wire you have could have been added or changed before=
 you got the car.</div><div><br></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa=
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Linda Grunthaner <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">g=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Kevin,<div>That is the type of answer I am looking for=
. Now I don&#39;t want to sound stupid but will I get a 12 volt read if I p=
lace the multimeter leads one at the red power line and one at the black gr=
ound line and turn the key (which I will try this boring before work)?=C2=
=A0</div><div>Lin</div></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Kevin Valentine <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Lin,<div><br></div><div>First thing, check the wire at=
 the fuel pump with a meter or test light to see if you have power there wh=
en the key is on. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>If there is power at the =
pump with the key on, =C2=A0 then either the ground is bad at the pump or t=
he pump is bad.</div><div><br></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa</=
div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><d=
iv>On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Guys,<div>This afternoon I=
 ran my Sprite&#39;s fuel tank dry after driving her without a problem over=
 the weekend a short distance. It was my fault as I swapped to my old loose=
 gas cap during the day because it was &quot;pretty&quot; (for me pretty st=
upid) and that allowed the fuel tank with little gas to dry out. My Sprite =
ran fine until there was no fuel while sitting in the driveway today. I kno=
w my old 2 yr old Facet pump is dead because it no longer makes any noise =
=C2=A0which it always does when I turn the key prior to starting.</div><div=
><br></div><div>I quickly went to the NAPA store and purchased another near=
 exact Facet pump &quot;Posi-Flow&quot; and installed it to the exact locat=
ion as the broken one. I connected everything exactly as the previous pump =
and put 2 gallons of gas in the tank, l reinstalled the rear wheel lowered =
the jack and reconnected the battery terminal. I turned the key and I get n=
othing, no sound what-so-ever. I have headlights the starter works and the =
blinkers too but I hear nothing out of the pump which is usually loud from =
inside the car.</div><div><br></div><div>I then thought maybe there was not=
hing wrong with the old one but I put 12 volts on it with another battery a=
nd nothing, so it was clearly burned out.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>To=
morrow I&#39;m going to run another ground wire from the black ground on th=
e pump directly to the negative terminal of the battery to be sure I have c=
ontact for ground as it is only connected to the bolt as the prior pump was=
 and I will also run another wire to the red power on the pump directly to =
the positive terminal of the battery. Other than that I&#39;m stumped. I&#3=
9;ll also call Facet for suggestions.</div><div><br></div><div>Am I missing=
 anything? Could the pump be bad? I&#39;m guessing yes but a long shot.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>How can I test the new pump other than running the co=
nnections directly to the battery?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advan=
ce.</div><div>Lin</div><div><br></div><div>62 Sprite 1275 engine, negative =
ground<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br><div><div><br></div>-- <br><div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:small">&quot;Pay if forward&quot; in=
 honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut</span><br></div></div>
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:19:09 -0700

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Use a test light to check for power.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Use a test light to check for power.</div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:32 PM, =
Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spri=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Guys,<div=
>This afternoon I ran my Sprite&#39;s fuel tank dry after driving her witho=
ut a problem over the weekend a short distance. It was my fault as I swappe=
d to my old loose gas cap during the day because it was &quot;pretty&quot; =
(for me pretty stupid) and that allowed the fuel tank with little gas to dr=
y out. My Sprite ran fine until there was no fuel while sitting in the driv=
eway today. I know my old 2 yr old Facet pump is dead because it no longer =
makes any noise =C2=A0which it always does when I turn the key prior to sta=
rting.</div><div><br></div><div>I quickly went to the NAPA store and purcha=
sed another near exact Facet pump &quot;Posi-Flow&quot; and installed it to=
 the exact location as the broken one. I connected everything exactly as th=
e previous pump and put 2 gallons of gas in the tank, l reinstalled the rea=
r wheel lowered the jack and reconnected the battery terminal. I turned the=
 key and I get nothing, no sound what-so-ever. I have headlights the starte=
r works and the blinkers too but I hear nothing out of the pump which is us=
ually loud from inside the car.</div><div><br></div><div>I then thought may=
be there was nothing wrong with the old one but I put 12 volts on it with a=
nother battery and nothing, so it was clearly burned out.=C2=A0</div><div><=
br></div><div>Tomorrow I&#39;m going to run another ground wire from the bl=
ack ground on the pump directly to the negative terminal of the battery to =
be sure I have contact for ground as it is only connected to the bolt as th=
e prior pump was and I will also run another wire to the red power on the p=
ump directly to the positive terminal of the battery. Other than that I&#39=
;m stumped. I&#39;ll also call Facet for suggestions.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Am I missing anything? Could the pump be bad? I&#39;m guessing yes but =
a long shot.</div><div><br></div><div>How can I test the new pump other tha=
n running the connections directly to the battery?</div><div><br></div><div=
>Thanks in advance.</div><div>Lin</div><div><br></div><div>62 Sprite 1275 e=
ngine, negative ground<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br><d=
iv><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:sma=
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Thanks Kevin I'll try that and it's a 1275 in a 62 Spridget so no not
factory electrical pump. Also why isn't anyone using a stock mechanical
pump? I may swap back in the near future.
Lin

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Valentine <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>>>> This afternoon I ran my Sprite's fuel tank dry after driving her
>>>> without a problem over the weekend a short distance. It was my fault as I
>>>> swapped to my old loose gas cap during the day because it was "pretty" (for
>>>> me pretty stupid) and that allowed the fuel tank with little gas to dry
>>>> out. My Sprite ran fine until there was no fuel while sitting in the
>>>> driveway today. I know my old 2 yr old Facet pump is dead because it no
>>>> longer makes any noise  which it always does when I turn the key prior to
>>>> starting.
>>>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Kevin I&#39;ll try that and it&#39;s a 1275 in a 62=
 Spridget so no not factory electrical pump. Also why isn&#39;t anyone usin=
g a stock mechanical pump? I may swap back in the near future.<div>Lin</div=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Ju=
l 24, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Valentine <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, it sho=
uld get 12 volts with the key on.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>If you don=
&#39;t get a reading using the power wire and the ground wire, try connecti=
ng the leads to the power wire and ground the other to the body of the car.=
=C2=A0 If you get a reading using the body as a ground then you have a bad =
ground at the tank.<div><br></div><div>Also, if the car was wired for an el=
ectric fuel pump at the factory, it should have a white wire (on when the i=
gnition is on) for the power supply to the pump.=C2=A0 Of course the wire y=
ou have could have been added or changed before you got the car.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa</div><div><div class=3D"h5"=
><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Linda Grunthaner <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">grun=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Hi Kevin,<div>That is the type of answer I am looking for. N=
ow I don&#39;t want to sound stupid but will I get a 12 volt read if I plac=
e the multimeter leads one at the red power line and one at the black groun=
d line and turn the key (which I will try this boring before work)?=C2=A0</=
div><div>Lin</div></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Kevin Valentine <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">kev=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Lin,<div><br></div><div>First thing, check the wire at the =
fuel pump with a meter or test light to see if you have power there when th=
e key is on. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>If there is power at the pump =
with the key on, =C2=A0 then either the ground is bad at the pump or the pu=
mp is bad.</div><div><br></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa</div><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>On=
 Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spri=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Guys,<div>This afternoon I ran =
my Sprite&#39;s fuel tank dry after driving her without a problem over the =
weekend a short distance. It was my fault as I swapped to my old loose gas =
cap during the day because it was &quot;pretty&quot; (for me pretty stupid)=
 and that allowed the fuel tank with little gas to dry out. My Sprite ran f=
ine until there was no fuel while sitting in the driveway today. I know my =
old 2 yr old Facet pump is dead because it no longer makes any noise =C2=A0=
which it always does when I turn the key prior to starting.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>I quickly went to the NAPA store and purchased another near exact=
 Facet pump &quot;Posi-Flow&quot; and installed it to the exact location as=
 the broken one. I connected everything exactly as the previous pump and pu=
t 2 gallons of gas in the tank, l reinstalled the rear wheel lowered the ja=
ck and reconnected the battery terminal. I turned the key and I get nothing=
, no sound what-so-ever. I have headlights the starter works and the blinke=
rs too but I hear nothing out of the pump which is usually loud from inside=
 the car.</div><div><br></div><div>I then thought maybe there was nothing w=
rong with the old one but I put 12 volts on it with another battery and not=
hing, so it was clearly burned out.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Tomorrow=
 I&#39;m going to run another ground wire from the black ground on the pump=
 directly to the negative terminal of the battery to be sure I have contact=
 for ground as it is only connected to the bolt as the prior pump was and I=
 will also run another wire to the red power on the pump directly to the po=
sitive terminal of the battery. Other than that I&#39;m stumped. I&#39;ll a=
lso call Facet for suggestions.</div><div><br></div><div>Am I missing anyth=
ing? Could the pump be bad? I&#39;m guessing yes but a long shot.</div><div=
><br></div><div>How can I test the new pump other than running the connecti=
ons directly to the battery?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance.</d=
iv><div>Lin</div><div><br></div><div>62 Sprite 1275 engine, negative ground=
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br><div><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir=
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div>

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Thanks Herb I'll do that under the hood that should tell me if the ground
is making a bad contact quickly.
Lin

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Herb I&#39;ll do that under the hood that should te=
ll me if the ground is making a bad contact quickly.<div>Lin</div></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015=
 at 5:19 PM, WFO Herb <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:froggi60@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Use a test light to check for pow=
er.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><di=
v class=3D"h5">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridg=
ets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi G=
uys,<div>This afternoon I ran my Sprite&#39;s fuel tank dry after driving h=
er without a problem over the weekend a short distance. It was my fault as =
I swapped to my old loose gas cap during the day because it was &quot;prett=
y&quot; (for me pretty stupid) and that allowed the fuel tank with little g=
as to dry out. My Sprite ran fine until there was no fuel while sitting in =
the driveway today. I know my old 2 yr old Facet pump is dead because it no=
 longer makes any noise =C2=A0which it always does when I turn the key prio=
r to starting.</div><div><br></div><div>I quickly went to the NAPA store an=
d purchased another near exact Facet pump &quot;Posi-Flow&quot; and install=
ed it to the exact location as the broken one. I connected everything exact=
ly as the previous pump and put 2 gallons of gas in the tank, l reinstalled=
 the rear wheel lowered the jack and reconnected the battery terminal. I tu=
rned the key and I get nothing, no sound what-so-ever. I have headlights th=
e starter works and the blinkers too but I hear nothing out of the pump whi=
ch is usually loud from inside the car.</div><div><br></div><div>I then tho=
ught maybe there was nothing wrong with the old one but I put 12 volts on i=
t with another battery and nothing, so it was clearly burned out.=C2=A0</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Tomorrow I&#39;m going to run another ground wire fro=
m the black ground on the pump directly to the negative terminal of the bat=
tery to be sure I have contact for ground as it is only connected to the bo=
lt as the prior pump was and I will also run another wire to the red power =
on the pump directly to the positive terminal of the battery. Other than th=
at I&#39;m stumped. I&#39;ll also call Facet for suggestions.</div><div><br=
></div><div>Am I missing anything? Could the pump be bad? I&#39;m guessing =
yes but a long shot.</div><div><br></div><div>How can I test the new pump o=
ther than running the connections directly to the battery?</div><div><br></=
div><div>Thanks in advance.</div><div>Lin</div><div><br></div><div>62 Sprit=
e 1275 engine, negative ground<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br><div><div><=
br></div>-- <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:small">&quot=
;Pay if forward&quot; in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut</span><br></=
div></div>
</div></font></span></div></div>
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From: Kevin Valentine via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:36:28 -0400

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Lin,

In my opinion, the electric is much better.   I have used both and the
mechanical pump takes a lot of cranking on the starter/battery/engine to
get fuel up to the carbs.  Especially if you don't drive the car a lot.
The electric delivers fuel very quickly to the carbs without the need to
spin all the other parts.  In fact I have a 76 Midget coming in this week
for an electric fuel pump "conversion" because it's on it's 3rd mechanical
pump in 2 years and the owner would like an electric installed for faster
starts.

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>>>>> I quickly went to the NAPA store and purchased another near exact
>>>>> Facet pump "Posi-Flow" and installed it to the exact location as the broken
>>>>> one. I connected everything exactly as the previous pump and put 2 gallons
>>>>> of gas in the tank, l reinstalled the rear wheel lowered the jack and
>>>>> I then thought maybe there was nothing wrong with the old one but I
>>>>> put 12 volts on it with another battery and nothing, so it was clearly
>>>>> burned out.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I test the new pump other than running the connections
>>>>> directly to the battery?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>> Lin
>>>>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Lin,<div><br></div><div>In my opinion, the electric is muc=
h better. =C2=A0 I have used both and the mechanical pump takes a lot of cr=
anking on the starter/battery/engine to get fuel up to the carbs.=C2=A0 Esp=
ecially if you don&#39;t drive the car a lot.=C2=A0 The electric delivers f=
uel very quickly to the carbs without the need to spin all the other parts.=
=C2=A0 In fact I have a 76 Midget coming in this week for an electric fuel =
pump &quot;conversion&quot; because it&#39;s on it&#39;s 3rd mechanical pum=
p in 2 years and the owner would like an electric installed for faster star=
ts.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, P=
a</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On S=
at, Jul 25, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Linda Grunthaner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank=
s Kevin I&#39;ll try that and it&#39;s a 1275 in a 62 Spridget so no not fa=
ctory electrical pump. Also why isn&#39;t anyone using a stock mechanical p=
ump? I may swap back in the near future.<div>Lin</div></div><div class=3D"H=
OEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Valentine <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">kevinv1275@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Yes, it should get 12 volts with the key on.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><br><=
/div><div>If you don&#39;t get a reading using the power wire and the groun=
d wire, try connecting the leads to the power wire and ground the other to =
the body of the car.=C2=A0 If you get a reading using the body as a ground =
then you have a bad ground at the tank.<div><br></div><div>Also, if the car=
 was wired for an electric fuel pump at the factory, it should have a white=
 wire (on when the ignition is on) for the power supply to the pump.=C2=A0 =
Of course the wire you have could have been added or changed before you got=
 the car.</div><div><br></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa</div><d=
iv><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Linda Grunthaner <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Kevin,<div>That is the type of answer I am looking f=
or. Now I don&#39;t want to sound stupid but will I get a 12 volt read if I=
 place the multimeter leads one at the red power line and one at the black =
ground line and turn the key (which I will try this boring before work)?=C2=
=A0</div><div>Lin</div></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Kevin Valentine <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Lin,<div><br></div><div>First thing, check the wire at=
 the fuel pump with a meter or test light to see if you have power there wh=
en the key is on. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>If there is power at the =
pump with the key on, =C2=A0 then either the ground is bad at the pump or t=
he pump is bad.</div><div><br></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa</=
div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><d=
iv>On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:38:48 -0400

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OK I'll keep it and I'll also put a spare in the boot : )
Lin

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Kevin Valentine <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Kevin Valentine <[email-masked]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lin,
>>>>>
>>>>> First thing, check the wire at the fuel pump with a meter or test
>>>>> light to see if you have power there when the key is on.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is power at the pump with the key on,   then either the
>>>>> ground is bad at the pump or the pump is bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin V.
>>>>> Tuscarora, Pa
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tomorrow I'm going to run another ground wire from the black ground
>>>>>> on the pump directly to the negative terminal of the battery to be sure I
>>>>>> have contact for ground as it is only connected to the bolt as the prior
>>>>>> pump was and I will also run another wire to the red power on the pump
>>>>>> directly to the positive terminal of the battery. Other than that I'm

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<div dir=3D"ltr">OK I&#39;ll keep it and I&#39;ll also put a spare in the b=
oot : )<div>Lin</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Kevin Valentine <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">kevinv1275@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Lin,<div><br></div><div>In my opinion, the electric is much better=
. =C2=A0 I have used both and the mechanical pump takes a lot of cranking o=
n the starter/battery/engine to get fuel up to the carbs.=C2=A0 Especially =
if you don&#39;t drive the car a lot.=C2=A0 The electric delivers fuel very=
 quickly to the carbs without the need to spin all the other parts.=C2=A0 I=
n fact I have a 76 Midget coming in this week for an electric fuel pump &qu=
ot;conversion&quot; because it&#39;s on it&#39;s 3rd mechanical pump in 2 y=
ears and the owner would like an electric installed for faster starts.</div=
><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa</div><=
/div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Linda Grunthan=
er <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Kevin I&#39;ll try that and it&#39;s a 12=
75 in a 62 Spridget so no not factory electrical pump. Also why isn&#39;t a=
nyone using a stock mechanical pump? I may swap back in the near future.<di=
v>Lin</div></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Kevin Valentine <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">kevinv1275=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Yes, it should get 12 volts with the key on.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><br><=
/div><div>If you don&#39;t get a reading using the power wire and the groun=
d wire, try connecting the leads to the power wire and ground the other to =
the body of the car.=C2=A0 If you get a reading using the body as a ground =
then you have a bad ground at the tank.<div><br></div><div>Also, if the car=
 was wired for an electric fuel pump at the factory, it should have a white=
 wire (on when the ignition is on) for the power supply to the pump.=C2=A0 =
Of course the wire you have could have been added or changed before you got=
 the car.</div><div><br></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa</div><d=
iv><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Linda Grunthaner <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:sm=
all">&quot;Pay if forward&quot; in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut</s=
pan><br></div></div>
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From: Kevin Valentine via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:52:09 -0400

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Billy, some of the 1275's have a blanking plate and can be fitted with a
mechanical pump, but most can not.  I have a few blocks from 74 Midgets
that have a blanking plate and can be fitted with a mechanical pump.

Here are some other years/models that could be fitted with mechanical pumps
from a post earlier this year from Peter C.

Sprite Mk2/ MG Midget Mk1 1098cc 10CG
Sprite Mk3/ MG Midget Mk2 1098cc 10CC ( 2" main bearings.)
Sprite Mk4/ MG Midget Mk3 1275cc 12CC or 12CE home market
.. .. .. 12CD or 12CJ N. America
.. .. .. after Oct '72, 12V/586F/H home market
.. .. .. .. 12V/671Z/L N. America

This from Barney's informative MGA site.

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Billy Zoom <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

> I don=E2=80=99t think a 1275 block has a hole for a mechanical pump.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Billy, some of the 1275&#39;s have a blanking plate and ca=
n be fitted with a mechanical pump, but most can not.=C2=A0 I have a few bl=
ocks from 74 Midgets that have a blanking plate and can be fitted with a me=
chanical pump. =C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Here are some other years/models t=
hat could be fitted with mechanical pumps from a post earlier this year fro=
m Peter C.</div><div><br></div><div><div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Sprite Mk2/ MG =
Midget Mk1 1098cc 10CG=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"clear:both;font-family:Aria=
l,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Sprite Mk3/ MG Midget Mk2 1098cc 10CC ( 2=
&quot; main bearings.)=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"clear:both;font-family:Aria=
l,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Sprite Mk4/ MG Midget Mk3 1275cc 12CC or =
12CE home market=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"clear:both;font-family:Arial,Helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:14px">.. .. .. 12CD or 12CJ N. America=C2=A0</span><b=
r style=3D"clear:both;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px=
"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">.. =
.. .. after Oct &#39;72, 12V/586F/H home market=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"cl=
ear:both;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span style=
=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">.. .. .. .. 12V/=
671Z/L N. America=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"clear:both;font-family:Arial,Hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br style=3D"clear:both;font-family:Arial=
,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">This from Barney&#39;s informative MGA sit=
e.</span><br></font></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:=
Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px=
"><br></span></div><div>Kevin V.</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 2:50 P=
M, Billy Zoom <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">I don=E2=80=99t think a 1275 block has a hole fo=
r a mechanical pump.</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div>

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