Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WTF is going on?? Lower Fulcrum Pin..

From: Bob Kitterer via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 19:09:46 -0700

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Jim,

Heat will most likely not work.  The pin should be bronze and will expand fa=
ster than the steel just making the fit tighter.  When I had this problem I w=
as able to cool the pin enough for it to come out but I had to use liquid ni=
trogen to get it cool enough.  Perhaps a aerosol can of coolest will work us=
ing the tube for the can nozzle to spray in the hole going the length of the=
 pin.

Bob Kitterer
1960 Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1967 Sprite Mk III
2013 Miata

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> On Jul 13, 2015, at 6:57 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
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> I had disassembled the front suspension on both sides and actually had no t=
rouble getting the fulcrum pins unscrewed after removing the two cotter keys=
 (maybe "cotter pin" is a better description of them)? On re-assembly starti=
ng with the left front and my new "Peter Built" shocks, new brake disks and n=
ew wheel bearings and seals I screwed the fulcrum pin in as far as it would g=
o (It went in easily) then realized I had not centered the hollow on the ful=
crum pin so the cotter pin could be inserted through the king pin. No proble=
m I thought... (yeah... sure!) Just unscrew the fulcrum pin and put it back i=
n more carefully so that the cotter pin can be inserted. It wouldn't budge. G=
ot the biggest, nastiest straight blade screw driver (think BFS here) I coul=
d find but still no luck. Now I can't get the fulcrum pin to unscrew!! But i=
t came out easily and went back in easily! What has changed?? I haven't trie=
d heat yet but did soak it with PB Blaster to no avail. Anybody else been he=
re before?? WWFD?? I hate to use a sawzall on the fulcrum pin because everyt=
hing fit so well going back together. Thinking of using an impact driver on i=
t to see if that will free it.=20
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Jim,</div><div><br></div><div>Heat wil=
l most likely not work. &nbsp;The pin should be bronze and will expand faste=
r than the steel just making the fit tighter. &nbsp;When I had this problem I=
 was able to cool the pin enough for it to come out but I had to use liquid n=
itrogen to get it cool enough. &nbsp;Perhaps a aerosol can of coolest will w=
ork using the tube for the can nozzle to spray in the hole going the length o=
f the pin.</div><div><br></div><div>Bob Kitterer</div><div>1960 Sprite (Mk I=
V in disguise)</div><div>1967 Sprite Mk III</div><div>2013 Miata<br><br>Sent=
 from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jul 13, 2015, at 6:57 PM, bmwwxman . via Spri=
dgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:14px">I had disassembled the front suspension on both sides and actu=
ally had no trouble getting the fulcrum pins unscrewed after removing the tw=
o cotter keys (maybe "cotter pin" is a better description of them)? On re-as=
sembly starting with the left front and my new "Peter Built" shocks, new bra=
ke disks and new wheel bearings and seals I screwed the fulcrum pin in as fa=
r as it would go (It went in easily) then realized I had not centered the ho=
llow on the fulcrum pin so the cotter pin could be inserted through the king=
 pin. No problem I thought... (yeah... sure!) Just unscrew the fulcrum pin a=
nd put it back in more carefully so that the cotter pin can be inserted. It w=
ouldn't budge. Got the biggest, nastiest straight blade screw driver (think B=
FS here) I could find but still no luck. Now I can't get the fulcrum pin to u=
nscrew!! But it came out easily and went back in easily! What has changed?? I=
 haven't tried heat yet but did soak it with PB Blaster to no avail. Anybody=
 else been here before?? WWFD?? I hate to use a sawzall on the fulcrum pin b=
ecause everything fit so well going back together. Thinking of using an impa=
ct driver on it to see if that will free it.&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"all"><=
div><br></div>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers!=
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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 22:21:49 -0400

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Is everything reassembled including the spring?  Post a photo here or on the=
 MGE thread.

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Is everything reassembled including th=
e spring? &nbsp;Post a photo here or on the MGE thread.<br><br>Sent from my k=
eyboard</div><div><br>On Jul 13, 2015, at 9:57 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><spa=
n style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size=
:14px">I had disassembled the front suspension on both sides and actually ha=
d no trouble getting the fulcrum pins unscrewed after removing the two cotte=
r keys (maybe "cotter pin" is a better description of them)? On re-assembly s=
tarting with the left front and my new "Peter Built" shocks, new brake disks=
 and new wheel bearings and seals I screwed the fulcrum pin in as far as it w=
ould go (It went in easily) then realized I had not centered the hollow on t=
he fulcrum pin so the cotter pin could be inserted through the king pin. No p=
roblem I thought... (yeah... sure!) Just unscrew the fulcrum pin and put it b=
ack in more carefully so that the cotter pin can be inserted. It wouldn't bu=
dge. Got the biggest, nastiest straight blade screw driver (think BFS here) I=
 could find but still no luck. Now I can't get the fulcrum pin to unscrew!! B=
ut it came out easily and went back in easily! What has changed?? I haven't t=
ried heat yet but did soak it with PB Blaster to no avail. Anybody else been=
 here before?? WWFD?? I hate to use a sawzall on the fulcrum pin because eve=
rything fit so well going back together. Thinking of using an impact driver o=
n it to see if that will free it.&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></d=
iv>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers!!<br>Jim Jo=
hnson<br><a href=3D"http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org" target=3D"_blank">=
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Did you put never seize on it before screwing it in

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ial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;">I had disassembled the front suspe=
nsion on both sides and actually had no trouble getting the fulcrum pins uns=
crewed after removing the two cotter keys (maybe "cotter pin" is a better de=
scription of them)? On re-assembly starting with the left front and my new "=
Peter Built" shocks, new brake disks and new wheel bearings and seals I scre=
wed the fulcrum pin in as far as it would go (It went in easily) then realiz=
ed I had not centered the hollow on the fulcrum pin so the cotter pin could b=
e inserted through the king pin. No problem I thought... (yeah... sure!) Jus=
t unscrew the fulcrum pin and put it back in more carefully so that the cott=
er pin can be inserted. It wouldn't budge. Got the biggest, nastiest straigh=
t blade screw driver (think BFS here) I could find but still no luck. Now I c=
an't get the fulcrum pin to unscrew!! But it came out easily and went back i=
n easily! What has changed?? I haven't tried heat yet but did soak it with P=
B Blaster to no avail. Anybody else been here before?? WWFD?? I hate to use a=
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er. Thinking of using an impact driver on it to see if that will free it.&nb=
sp;</span><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signat=
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Did not use neverseize, Leo. It came out and went back in so easily ( I
could turn it with my fingers) that I was fooled into thinking I wouldn't
need it.  Hadn't put the springs in yet, David.  I sacrificed two virgins
and a fatted Hip-Hop singer, Billy.  Thought that would be enough!  I think
I know where I can get a little liquid nitrogen but will try my impact
screw driver first.

Thanks everyone!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cebridge [email-masked]
[midgetsprite] <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Leo
> On Jul 13, 2015, at 8:57 PM, 'bmwwxman .' [email-masked]
> [midgetsprite] <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I had disassembled the front suspension on both sides and actually had no
> trouble getting the fulcrum pins unscrewed after removing the two cotter
> keys (maybe "cotter pin" is a better description of them)? On re-assembly
> starting with the left front and my new "Peter Built" shocks, new brake
> disks and new wheel bearings and seals I screwed the fulcrum pin in as fa=
r
> as it would go (It went in easily) then realized I had not centered the
> hollow on the fulcrum pin so the cotter pin could be inserted through the
> king pin. No problem I thought... (yeah... sure!) Just unscrew the fulcru=
m
> pin and put it back in more carefully so that the cotter pin can be
> inserted. It wouldn't budge. Got the biggest, nastiest straight blade scr=
ew
> driver (think BFS here) I could find but still no luck. Now I can't get t=
he
> fulcrum pin to unscrew!! But it came out easily and went back in easily!
> What has changed?? I haven't tried heat yet but did soak it with PB Blast=
er
> to no avail. Anybody else been here before?? WWFD?? I hate to use a sawza=
ll
> on the fulcrum pin because everything fit so well going back together.
> Thinking of using an impact driver on it to see if that will free it.
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim Johnson
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> Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Did not use neverseize, Leo. It came out and went back in =
so easily ( I could turn it with my fingers) that I was fooled into thinkin=
g I wouldn&#39;t need it.=C2=A0 Hadn&#39;t put the springs in yet, David.=
=C2=A0 I sacrificed two virgins and a fatted Hip-Hop singer, Billy.=C2=A0 T=
hought that would be enough!=C2=A0 I think I know where I can get a little =
liquid nitrogen but will try my impact screw driver first.<div><br></div><d=
iv>Thanks everyone!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!!<br>Jim<br>=C2=A0</div=
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ension on both sides and actually had no trouble getting the fulcrum pins u=
nscrewed after removing the two cotter keys (maybe &quot;cotter pin&quot; i=
s a better description of them)? On re-assembly starting with the left fron=
t and my new &quot;Peter Built&quot; shocks, new brake disks and new wheel =
bearings and seals I screwed the fulcrum pin in as far as it would go (It w=
ent in easily) then realized I had not centered the hollow on the fulcrum p=
in so the cotter pin could be inserted through the king pin. No problem I t=
hought... (yeah... sure!) Just unscrew the fulcrum pin and put it back in m=
ore carefully so that the cotter pin can be inserted. It wouldn&#39;t budge=
. Got the biggest, nastiest straight blade screw driver (think BFS here) I =
could find but still no luck. Now I can&#39;t get the fulcrum pin to unscre=
w!! But it came out easily and went back in easily! What has changed?? I ha=
ven&#39;t tried heat yet but did soak it with PB Blaster to no avail. Anybo=
dy else been here before?? WWFD?? I hate to use a sawzall on the fulcrum pi=
n because everything fit so well going back together. Thinking of using an =
impact driver on it to see if that will free it.=C2=A0</span><br clear=3D"a=
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