Subject: Re: [Spridgets] voltage blues

From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:13:05 -0400

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Michael,
I'm not sure of your question but I had a similar problem and pulled the
starter out and bench tested it using another battery to see if it was
working. It was not so I bench tested 2 other starters and found one that
engaged properly and used it.
Hope that helps,
Lin

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <
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>  The Bugeyed Midget (1275) is running flawlessly, but struggling to turn
> over.  I cleaned up all the starter connections (one was a little loose)
> with no change.  I jumped the battery to another car not running, with no
> change.  I started the other car, and the additional voltage did the
> trick.  Where am I loosing voltage -  the solenoid?  Can the starter,
> itself, loose voltage internally?  Is it safe to jump the starter directly
> to the battery?
>
> Michael Rowe
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Michael,<div>I&#39;m not sure of your question but I had a=
 similar problem and pulled the starter out and bench tested it using anoth=
er battery to see if it was working. It was not so I bench tested 2 other s=
tarters and found one that engaged properly and used it.</div><div>Hope tha=
t helps,</div><div>Lin</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridget=
s <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

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<div><font face=3D"Arial">The Bugeyed Midget (1275) is running flawlessly, =
but=20
struggling to turn over.=C2=A0 I cleaned up all the starter connections (on=
e was=20
a little loose) with no change.=C2=A0 I jumped the battery=C2=A0to another =
car=20
not running, with no change.=C2=A0 I started the other car, and the additio=
nal=20
voltage did the trick.=C2=A0 Where am I loosing voltage -=C2=A0 the=20
solenoid?=C2=A0 Can the starter, itself, loose voltage internally?=C2=A0 Is=
 it=20
safe to jump the starter directly to the battery?</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>
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From: Kevin Valentine via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:47:53 -0400

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Michael,

First,  clean up all the connections to the starter.   Including the
solenoid and the connection at the starter.  Also check the ground from the
battery to the body of the car at the firewall.     There is a cable/strap
that connects the ground from the body of the car to the
engine/transmission under the car - make sure there is a good clean
connection there as well.  I run an extra ground directly from the battery
to the engine on all my cars.

Second, the starter may be getting weak and requires more voltage than a
battery will provide (battery provides slightly over 12v.).  When the other
car is running you would be getting closer to 14 v.

Third, if the engine is not timed properly (too advanced) the engine will
crank slowly.

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, Pa

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Michael,<div><br></div><div>First, =C2=A0clean up all the =
connections to the starter. =C2=A0 Including the solenoid and the connectio=
n at the starter.=C2=A0 Also check the ground from the battery to the body =
of the car at the firewall. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 There is a cable/strap that conne=
cts the ground from the body of the car to the engine/transmission under th=
e car - make sure there is a good clean connection there as well.=C2=A0 I r=
un an extra ground directly from the battery to the engine on all my cars.<=
br><div><br></div><div>Second, the starter may be getting weak and requires=
 more voltage than a battery will provide (battery provides slightly over 1=
2v.).=C2=A0 When the other car is running you would be getting closer to 14=
 v.</div><div><br></div><div>Third, if the engine is not timed properly (to=
o advanced) the engine will crank slowly.</div><div><br></div><div>Kevin V.=
</div><div>Tuscarora, Pa</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 19, 2015=
 at 2:43 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
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From: Brian Morse via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 17:43:14 -0400

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Michael,

Let's start with the basics.

What type of battery do you have.  AGM, sealed "maintenance free", or
original style flooded lead acid?

It should say on the label.  They all behave differently...

Brian in A2

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Michael,<div><br></div><div>Let&#39;s start with the basics.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>What type of battery do you have.=C2=A0 AGM, sealed &quot;mainte=
nance free&quot;, or original style flooded lead acid?</div><div><br></div>=
<div>It should say on the label.=C2=A0 They all behave differently...</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Brian in A2<span></span><br><br>On Sunday, April 19, 20=
15, Michael Rowe via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x"><u></u>

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