Subject: [Spridgets] 995 Huffaker race engine question

From: lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 13:16:16 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi Guys and Gals,
I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been stored away for decades=
. =C2=A0I started it after the rebuild and all looked well after I discover=
ed that I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out. =C2=A0That took me a w=
hile to figure out until I replaced all of the plug wires 1 went to 4 and 4=
 went to 1 and 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.
Ok. =C2=A0Here is my real question after running for about 20 minutes with =
varying engine speed, I noticed that about a quart and a half of oil decide=
d it didn't wish to stay in the engine any longer and was being deposited o=
n the driveway by way of the hole in the bottom of the transmission. =C2=A0=
What happened here? =C2=A0What should I check?
By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so high compr=
ession. =C2=A0It sounded spectacular. =C2=A0I am dying to drive it once I g=
et you all to give me some idea of what may have happened.
Thanks a bunch for all of your thoughts.
Mike C
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uys and Gals,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr">I just =
rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been stored away for decades. &nbsp=
;I started it after the rebuild and all looked well after I discovered that=
 I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out. &nbsp;That took me a while to=
 figure out until I replaced all of the plug wires 1 went to 4 and 4 went t=
o 1 and 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358=
" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D=
"ltr">Ok. &nbsp;Here is my real question after running for about 20 minutes=
 with varying engine speed, I noticed that about a quart and a half of oil =
decided it didn't wish to stay in the engine any longer and was being depos=
ited on the driveway by way of the hole in the bottom of the transmission. =
&nbsp;What happened here? &nbsp;What should I check?</div><div id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr">By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :1 c=
ompression and all so high compression. &nbsp;It sounded spectacular. &nbsp=
;I am dying to drive it once I get you all to give me some idea of what may=
 have happened.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr">Thank=
s a bunch for all of your thoughts.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597=
738_25358" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_2535=
8" dir=3D"ltr">Mike C</div></div></body></html>
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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:54:23 -0400

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Hey Mike,

What kind of venting does the engine have?  And unless Huffaker did somethin=
g different there is no rear seal other than the scroll on the end of the cr=
ank.  Sounds like way too much pressure in the crankcase. =20

Sent from my keyboard

> On Mar 30, 2015, at 9:57 AM, [email-masked] via Spridgets <spridget=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> The rear main seal is not sealing=20
> =20
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> ------ Original message------
> From: lotuspilot--- via Spridgets
> Date: Mon, Mar 30, 2015 8:45 AM
> To: Spridgets List;
> Subject:[Spridgets] 995 Huffaker race engine question
> =20
> Hi Guys and Gals,
>=20
> I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been stored away for decade=
s.  I started it after the rebuild and all looked well after I discovered th=
at I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out.  That took me a while to fig=
ure out until I replaced all of the plug wires 1 went to 4 and 4 went to 1 a=
nd 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.
>=20
> Ok.  Here is my real question after running for about 20 minutes with vary=
ing engine speed, I noticed that about a quart and a half of oil decided it d=
idn't wish to stay in the engine any longer and was being deposited on the d=
riveway by way of the hole in the bottom of the transmission.  What happened=
 here?  What should I check?
>=20
> By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so high comp=
ression.  It sounded spectacular.  I am dying to drive it once I get you all=
 to give me some idea of what may have happened.
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Hey Mike,</div><div><br></div><div>Wha=
t kind of venting does the engine have? &nbsp;And unless Huffaker did someth=
ing different there is no rear seal other than the scroll on the end of the c=
rank. &nbsp;Sounds like way too much pressure in the crankcase. &nbsp;<br><b=
r>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Mar 30, 2015, at 9:57 AM, <a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> via Spridgets &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>

<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;"><p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">Th=
e rear main seal is not sealing&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bot=
tom:0;">&nbsp;</p><div><!--SIGNATURE START--><div><p style=3D"margin-top:0;m=
argin-bottom:0;">Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone</p></div><!--SIGNATU=
RE END--></div><p id=3D"last_enter" style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">=
&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"m=
argin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">------ Original message------</p> <p style=3D"=
margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;"><b>From:&nbsp;</b>lotuspilot--- via Spridgets=
 <[email-masked]></[email-masked]></p><p style=3D"margin=
-top:0;margin-bottom:0;"><b>Date:&nbsp;</b>Mon, Mar 30, 2015 8:45 AM</p><p s=
tyle=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;"><b>To:&nbsp;</b>Spridgets List;</p><p=
 style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;"><b>Subject:</b>[Spridgets] 995 Huff=
aker race engine question</p><p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">&nbs=
p;</p><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica=
Neue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:=
12px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr">Hi Guys and G=
als,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr">I just rebuilt a H=
uffaker race engine that had been stored away for decades. &nbsp;I started i=
t after the rebuild and all looked well after I discovered that I had the di=
stributor drive gear in 180 out. &nbsp;That took me a while to figure out un=
til I replaced all of the plug wires 1 went to 4 and 4 went to 1 and 3 to 2 a=
nd 2 to 3.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr">Ok. &nbsp;He=
re is my real question after running for about 20 minutes with varying engin=
e speed, I noticed that about a quart and a half of oil decided it didn't wi=
sh to stay in the engine any longer and was being deposited on the driveway b=
y way of the hole in the bottom of the transmission. &nbsp;What happened her=
e? &nbsp;What should I check?</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_253=
58" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D=
"ltr">By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so high c=
ompression. &nbsp;It sounded spectacular. &nbsp;I am dying to drive it once I=
 get you all to give me some idea of what may have happened.</div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr">Thanks a bunch for all of your thought=
s.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_25358" dir=3D"ltr">Mike C</div></div></=
div>
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From: lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:10:58 +0000 (UTC)

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This is the reason that this Spridget list rocks. =C2=A0I think that I have=
 a combination of what most of you have stated. =C2=A0
I put the chrome later 1098 breather on and you could literally watch it pu=
ff with each piston hit almost. =C2=A0It was definitely having a crankcase =
pressure problem.=C2=A0
I put a full load of oil in it and ran it last night around the block a few=
 times. =C2=A0The engine sounds great and smells great. =C2=A0This engine n=
eeds more carburetion - I will rebuild the 1 and 3/8 thru bore carbs. =C2=
=A0I think that this engine will run good!
Rick,
What happened this Winter was going to be a rebuild of the Climax FWA that =
is meant for Series one Seven #409. =C2=A0I discovered the FWA has cheater =
(huge) valves that I am having trouble locating and they removed the tops f=
or valve adjustment to the point of scary for the valve keepers to hold in.=
 =C2=A0So instead I switched gears to a Huffaker that had been in 6 boxes s=
ince it was pulled apart to refreshen back in 1978. =C2=A0All of the new be=
arings and rings were there in the box to refreshen so I went with the good=
 old fun, tried and true A-Series and have the feeling that I accomplished =
some fun and the engine is back with all of its pieces.=C2=A0
Seven #409 was a side-valve Ford powered originally. =C2=A0I redid it to ha=
ndle either Sprite or Climax so that it could be enjoyed. =C2=A0I think tha=
t I have the Series 1 Seven market covered ;^). =C2=A0At least my wife thin=
ks I do. =C2=A0She has cut me off at 3. =C2=A0I still have the Gray MkII Sp=
rite and the red Bugeye. =C2=A0I will likely use the Huffaker in the Bugeye=
 as a vintage racer and leave the Gray Sprite as a street car with original=
 948. =C2=A0They make good fun transportation.
Jim,
I will try the glove trick.
Thanks everyone for all of the great advice. =C2=A0I will try to remember t=
o let you all know what I find likely this weekend. =C2=A0Spring is coming =
and I must play.
Mike=20

     On Monday, March 30, 2015 1:50 PM, Rick Fisk <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
  =20

 The 948 road draft tube may not be enough. =C2=A0Also, the road draft tube=
 really only works when the car is going down the road. =C2=A0The end of th=
e tube is cut at an angle which causes a slight vacuum in the tube and draw=
s vapors out of the engine. =C2=A0Sitting in your garage running =3D no vac=
uum in the tube.=C2=A0
Which car is this motor going in? =C2=A0Red Bugeye, grey Sprite, or a Seven=
?

Sent from my keyboard
On Mar 30, 2015, at 12:54 PM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.=
team.net> wrote:

Rick and Jim,
The Huffaker was/is a very tweaked (for its time) A-series 948 that was bla=
ck crinkle painted and lots of chrome etc as well as 1/8 inch milled off of=
 the block, Arias domed pistons etc. =C2=A0
I did something that may have caused this and I will explain. =C2=A0I purpo=
sely used a regular 948cc draught pipe in place of what the Huffaker was or=
iginally. =C2=A0This engine has mucho original chrome goodies such as the t=
appet covers and the original tappet side cover had what was used on the la=
ter 1098cc Spridgets - the canister just like the front on the 1275cc engin=
e but coming out of the tappet cover. =C2=A0I wonder if that had anything t=
o do with it. =C2=A0I am going to put that on this evening and put oil back=
 in the Exxon Valdez again - this time kitty litter under it and see what h=
appens. =C2=A0I may have to do the old trick of putting another crankcase v=
ent in the fuel pump blocking plate. =C2=A0I just dread having to pull the =
engine when it is so close. =C2=A0Everyone keep your fingers crossed!
Mike=20

     On Monday, March 30, 2015 12:32 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets <spridget=
[email-masked]> wrote:
  =20

 Is the Huffaker built from the standard A series?=C2=A0 If so, there is no=
 rear main seal.=C2=A0 Instead they have a "Scroll" seal on the outside of =
the rear main bearing.=C2=A0 There is a spiral groove on the rear of the cr=
ank shaft which is supposed to *draw* the oil back into the engine.=C2=A0 H=
owever, if you have too much crank case pressure the scroll seal can't over=
come it and it will weep oil which then collects in the bottom of the bell =
housing and pours out onto your driveway. =C2=A0
Before you pull the engine again, check your crank case pressure.=C2=A0 On =
my standard 1275 A series I had this problem....=C2=A0 I ended up drilling =
the side of the block and installing a pressure relief hose into a small K&=
N filter.=C2=A0 There are a couple of *fixes* for this including a kit that=
 Mo$$ offers to replace the rear scroll seal with a better seal but it ain'=
t cheap.=C2=A0 Another method is a fix whereby you drill a channel into the=
 scroll and the rear main bearing cap and tighten up the tolerance but if y=
ou screw that up you are out a rear main cap which is not replaceable becau=
se it is line bored. =C2=A0 Don't ask.
Good luck with it.
Cheers!!
Jim=C2=A0
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:

I was hoping it was just an internal pressure issue.=C2=A0 I may not be so =
lucky.=C2=A0 I guess that I can change that by pulling the engine and remov=
ing the flywheel.=C2=A0 I would love to try the straight cut gearbox someho=
w if possible.
Any other ideas.
Thanks a bunch,
Mike=20

     On Monday, March 30, 2015 10:23 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <sprid=
[email-masked]> wrote:
  =20

 Hi Guys and Gals,
I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been stored away for decades=
.=C2=A0 I started it after the rebuild and all looked well after I discover=
ed that I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out.=C2=A0 That took me a w=
hile to figure out until I replaced all of the plug wires 1 went to 4 and 4=
 went to 1 and 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.
Ok.=C2=A0 Here is my real question after running for about 20 minutes with =
varying engine speed, I noticed that about a quart and a half of oil decide=
d it didn't wish to stay in the engine any longer and was being deposited o=
n the driveway by way of the hole in the bottom of the transmission.=C2=A0 =
What happened here?=C2=A0 What should I check?
By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so high compr=
ession.=C2=A0 It sounded spectacular.=C2=A0 I am dying to drive it once I g=
et you all to give me some idea of what may have happened.
Thanks a bunch for all of your thoughts.
Mike C
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Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
High Plains Youth Hockey
Dodge City Trail of Fame=20
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology

"Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they =
look forward to the trip." =C2=A0 Winston Churchill

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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr">This =
is the reason that this Spridget list rocks. &nbsp;I think that I have a co=
mbination of what most of you have stated. &nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14278=
05285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr">I put the chrome later 1098 breather on and you =
could literally watch it puff with each piston hit almost. &nbsp;It was def=
initely having a crankcase pressure problem.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427=
805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr">I put a full load of oil in it and ran it last =
night around the block a few times. &nbsp;The engine sounds great and smell=
s great. &nbsp;This engine needs more carburetion - I will rebuild the 1 an=
d 3/8 thru bore carbs. &nbsp;I think that this engine will run good!</div><=
div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr">Rick,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142=
7805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr">What happened this Winter was going to be a re=
build of the Climax FWA that is meant for Series one Seven #409. &nbsp;I di=
scovered the FWA has cheater (huge) valves that I am having trouble locatin=
g and they removed the tops for valve adjustment to the point of scary for =
the valve keepers to hold in. &nbsp;So instead I switched gears to a Huffak=
er that had been in 6 boxes since it was pulled apart to refreshen back in =
1978. &nbsp;All of the new bearings and rings were there in the box to refr=
eshen so I went with the good old fun, tried and true A-Series and have the=
 feeling that I accomplished some fun and the engine is back with all of it=
s pieces.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr">Seven #=
409 was a side-valve Ford powered originally. &nbsp;I redid it to handle ei=
ther Sprite or Climax so that it could be enjoyed. &nbsp;I think that I hav=
e the Series 1 Seven market covered ;^). &nbsp;At least my wife thinks I do=
. &nbsp;She has cut me off at 3. &nbsp;I still have the Gray MkII Sprite an=
d the red Bugeye. &nbsp;I will likely use the Huffaker in the Bugeye as a v=
intage racer and leave the Gray Sprite as a street car with original 948. &=
nbsp;They make good fun transportation.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142780=
5285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9=
148" dir=3D"ltr">Jim,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr">=
I will try the glove trick.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9148=
" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=3D"=
ltr">Thanks everyone for all of the great advice. &nbsp;I will try to remem=
ber to let you all know what I find likely this weekend. &nbsp;Spring is co=
ming and I must play.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427805285151_9148" dir=3D"ltr">=
Mike</div>  <br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"ya=
hoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica=
Neue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-siz=
e: 12px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvet=
ica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr">=
 <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Monday, March 30, 2015 1:50 PM, Rick F=
isk &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div c=
lass=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv8521571420"><div><div>The 948 road d=
raft tube may not be enough. &nbsp;Also, the road draft tube really only wo=
rks when the car is going down the road. &nbsp;The end of the tube is cut a=
t an angle which causes a slight vacuum in the tube and draws vapors out of=
 the engine. &nbsp;Sitting in your garage running =3D no vacuum in the tube=
.&nbsp;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Which car is this motor goi=
ng in? &nbsp;Red Bugeye, grey Sprite, or a Seven?<br clear=3D"none"><br cle=
ar=3D"none">Sent from my keyboard</div><div class=3D"yiv8521571420yqt079178=
2413" id=3D"yiv8521571420yqt13953"><div><br clear=3D"none">On Mar 30, 2015,=
 at 12:54 PM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"=
rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><d=
iv style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Hel=
vetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8521571420yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030"><span =
id=3D"yiv8521571420yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_73100">Rick and Jim,</span></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8521571420yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030"><=
span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8521571420yu=
i_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030"><span id=3D"yiv8521571420yui_3_16_0_1_14277=
14597738_73103">The Huffaker was/is a very tweaked (for its time) A-series =
948 that was black crinkle painted and lots of chrome etc as well as 1/8 in=
ch milled off of the block, Arias domed pistons etc. &nbsp;</span></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8521571420yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030"><span><b=
r clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8521571420yui_3_16_=
0_1_1427714597738_71030"><span id=3D"yiv8521571420yui_3_16_0_1_142771459773=
8_83491">I did something that may have caused this and I will explain. &nbs=
p;I purposely used a regular 948cc draught pipe in place of what the Huffak=
er was originally. &nbsp;This engine has mucho original chrome goodies such=
 as the tappet covers and the original tappet side cover had what was used =
on the later 1098cc Spridgets - the canister just like the front on the 127=
5cc engine but coming out of the tappet cover. &nbsp;I wonder if that had a=
nything to do with it. &nbsp;I am going to put that on this evening and put=
 oil back in the Exxon Valdez again - this time kitty litter under it and s=
ee what happens. &nbsp;I may have to do the old trick of putting another cr=
ankcase vent in the fuel pump blocking plate. &nbsp;I just dread having to =
pull the engine when it is so close. &nbsp;Everyone keep your fingers cross=
ed!</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv8521571420yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597=
738_71030"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv=
8521571420yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030"><span>Mike</span></div>  <br cl=
ear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv8521571420qtdSeparateBR"><br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv8521571420yahoo_quoted" style=3D"d=
isplay: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, H=
elvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style=3D"=
font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,=
 sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Ar=
ial"> On Monday, March 30, 2015 12:32 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets &lt;<a r=
el=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spridgets@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </div>  <br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none"> <div class=3D"yiv8521571420y_msg_container"><div id=
=3D"yiv8521571420"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Is the Huffaker built from the sta=
ndard A series?&nbsp; If so, there is no rear main seal.&nbsp; Instead they=
 have a "Scroll" seal on the outside of the rear main bearing.&nbsp; There =
is a spiral groove on the rear of the crank shaft which is supposed to *dra=
w* the oil back into the engine.&nbsp; However, if you have too much crank =
case pressure the scroll seal can't overcome it and it will weep oil which =
then collects in the bottom of the bell housing and pours out onto your dri=
veway. &nbsp;<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Before you pull the engine =
again, check your crank case pressure.&nbsp; On my standard 1275 A series I=
 had this problem....&nbsp; I ended up drilling the side of the block and i=
nstalling a pressure relief hose into a small K&amp;N filter.&nbsp; There a=
re a couple of *fixes* for this including a kit that Mo$$ offers to replace=
 the rear scroll seal with a better seal but it ain't cheap.&nbsp; Another =
method is a fix whereby you drill a channel into the scroll and the rear ma=
in bearing cap and tighten up the tolerance but if you screw that up you ar=
e out a rear main cap which is not replaceable because it is line bored. &n=
bsp; Don't ask.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Good luck with it.<=
/div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Cheers!!<br clear=3D"none">Jim&nbsp=
;</div></div><div class=3D"yiv8521571420gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"none"><di=
v class=3D"yiv8521571420gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM, lotus=
pilot--- via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"r=
ect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv8521571420gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv8521571420yqt6890539971" id=3D"yiv8521571420yqt93474"><div><div s=
tyle=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helveti=
ca Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><span>I was hoping it was just an internal pressure issue.&nbsp=
; I may not be so lucky.&nbsp; I guess that I can change that by pulling th=
e engine and removing the flywheel.&nbsp; I would love to try the straight =
cut gearbox somehow if possible.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Any other ideas.</span></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
span>Thanks a bunch,</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"none">=
</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Mike</span></div>  <br clear=3D"none"><=
div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"display:block=
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t face=3D"Arial"> On Monday, March 30, 2015 10:23 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spr=
idgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">s=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </div>  <=
br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> </div></div><div><div><div class=3D"y=
iv8521571420h5"><div><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;fo=
nt-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, s=
ans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Guys and Gals,</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I just rebuilt a Huffake=
r race engine that had been stored away for decades.&nbsp; I started it aft=
er the rebuild and all looked well after I discovered that I had the distri=
butor drive gear in 180 out.&nbsp; That took me a while to figure out until=
 I replaced all of the plug wires 1 went to 4 and 4 went to 1 and 3 to 2 an=
d 2 to 3.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">O=
k.&nbsp; Here is my real question after running for about 20 minutes with v=
arying engine speed, I noticed that about a quart and a half of oil decided=
 it didn't wish to stay in the engine any longer and was being deposited on=
 the driveway by way of the hole in the bottom of the transmission.&nbsp; W=
hat happened here?&nbsp; What should I check?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :=
1 compression and all so high compression.&nbsp; It sounded spectacular.&nb=
sp; I am dying to drive it once I get you all to give me some idea of what =
may have happened.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
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From: Mark Haynes via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 19:09:20 GMT

I have the very last of Paul A's kits in my garage, I got it from Bill M after he acquired the stuff from Morrisservice. It still hasn't been used, as my 948s leak from elsewhere, in case anyone's interested.

Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward

From: Rick Fisk <[email-masked]>

Don't think anyone is doing the Paul A. kit anymore.  Gerard has a very nice rear seal 
kit that actually uses a seal.  I haven't tried one, but it's supposed to be very good. 

Sent from my keyboard

> On Mar 30, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Ron Soave via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
 wrote:
> 
> I use the JB Weld fix (Paul A., now Gerard?). 5 years, no leaks. 13:1 cr. It leaked 
massively before that. Seal fixed the problem in 24 hours. 
> Ron Soave
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From: Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:38:41 -0700

>the very last of Paul A's kits
JB weld, cellophane, and what else?

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From: Mark Haynes via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 19:52:55 GMT

I've got to check, but there's a can of mold release, I think as well, drill bit, no cellophane (cigarette wrapper, remember?). I'll check tonight for a more complete list.

Mark Haynes

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To: Mark Haynes <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 995 Huffaker race engine question
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:38:41 -0700

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From: Billy Zoom via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:48:43 -0700

> Minimania video is full of errors

I certainly looks like a lot more hassle than JB weld and cellophane.
Does a Mini have the same scroll seal? 

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It=E2=80=99s not really, they are just telling you how to do it wrong. I =
assure you installing one of my seal kits is way easier that the JB Weld =
route. The JB Weld route requires drilling dozens of holes in the main =
cap and half moon piece=E2=80=A6 it=E2=80=99s cheaper, but it=E2=80=99s =
not pretty and certainly not easier. As I said, if it doesn=E2=80=99t =
work (and it doesn=E2=80=99t for everyone) you now have a worthless and =
unusable main cap and half moon.

The Minimania kit discards the scroll seal entirely.  You can=E2=80=99t =
really tell in the video, because it=E2=80=99s hidden behind the crank =
flange, but the aluminum half moon or =E2=80=9Ceyebrow=E2=80=9D as some =
call it, leaves a 1/4" diameter gap above the crank scroll. The reason =
for the bevel he points out is so it will clear the oil slinger behind =
the scroll. Other than the external cosmetic similarity, my design is =
very different functionally. It=E2=80=99s also made better, and is US =
made. Besides restoring the origin clearance spec without any machining, =
there are other features that make the installation of mine more =
positive by better retention of sealant and 100% positive registration =
of the seal holder. Those are two other areas where the other falls =
short.

Gerard

> On Mar 31, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Billy Zoom <[email-masked]> =
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> Does a Mini have the same scroll seal?=20
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s not really, they are just telling you how to do =
it wrong. I assure you installing one of my seal kits is way easier that =
the JB Weld route. The JB Weld route requires drilling dozens of holes =
in the main cap and half moon piece=E2=80=A6 it=E2=80=99s cheaper, but =
it=E2=80=99s not pretty and certainly not easier. As I said, if it =
doesn=E2=80=99t work (and it doesn=E2=80=99t for everyone) you now have =
a worthless and unusable main cap and half moon.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The Minimania kit <u style=3D"font-style:=
 italic;" class=3D"">discards the scroll seal entirely. </u>&nbsp;You =
can=E2=80=99t really tell in the video, because it=E2=80=99s hidden =
behind the crank flange, but the aluminum half moon or =E2=80=9Ceyebrow=E2=
=80=9D as some call it, leaves a 1/4" diameter gap above the crank =
scroll. The reason for the bevel he points out is so it will clear the =
oil slinger behind the scroll. Other than the external cosmetic =
similarity, my design is very different functionally. It=E2=80=99s also =
made better, and is US made. Besides restoring the origin clearance spec =
without any machining, there are other features that make the =
installation of mine more positive by better retention of sealant and =
100% positive registration of the seal holder. Those are two other areas =
where the other falls short.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Gerard</div><div class=3D""><i =
class=3D""><u class=3D""><br class=3D""></u></i></div><div class=3D""><i =
class=3D""><u class=3D""><br class=3D""></u></i><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar 31, 2015, at 1:48 PM, =
Billy Zoom &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Minimania video is full of errors<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">I certainly looks like a lot more =
hassle than JB weld and cellophane.<br class=3D"">Does a Mini have the =
same scroll seal? <br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></body></html>=

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From: Nelson Wittstock via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 21:31:36 -0000

Paul also supplied some Plasti-Gage.  The release material was a Sprayon dry 
moly lube.  The cigarette wrapper did not come with the "kit."  A Dremel 
tool was needed to do some of the JB Weld cleanup.  He included a four page 
set of instructions which I still have.

Nelson 

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