Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 995 Huffaker race engine question

From: lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:54:11 +0000 (UTC)

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Rick and Jim,
The Huffaker was/is a very tweaked (for its time) A-series 948 that was bla=
ck crinkle painted and lots of chrome etc as well as 1/8 inch milled off of=
 the block, Arias domed pistons etc. =C2=A0
I did something that may have caused this and I will explain. =C2=A0I purpo=
sely used a regular 948cc draught pipe in place of what the Huffaker was or=
iginally. =C2=A0This engine has mucho original chrome goodies such as the t=
appet covers and the original tappet side cover had what was used on the la=
ter 1098cc Spridgets - the canister just like the front on the 1275cc engin=
e but coming out of the tappet cover. =C2=A0I wonder if that had anything t=
o do with it. =C2=A0I am going to put that on this evening and put oil back=
 in the Exxon Valdez again - this time kitty litter under it and see what h=
appens. =C2=A0I may have to do the old trick of putting another crankcase v=
ent in the fuel pump blocking plate. =C2=A0I just dread having to pull the =
engine when it is so close. =C2=A0Everyone keep your fingers crossed!
Mike=20

     On Monday, March 30, 2015 12:32 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets <spridget=
[email-masked]> wrote:
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 Is the Huffaker built from the standard A series?=C2=A0 If so, there is no=
 rear main seal.=C2=A0 Instead they have a "Scroll" seal on the outside of =
the rear main bearing.=C2=A0 There is a spiral groove on the rear of the cr=
ank shaft which is supposed to *draw* the oil back into the engine.=C2=A0 H=
owever, if you have too much crank case pressure the scroll seal can't over=
come it and it will weep oil which then collects in the bottom of the bell =
housing and pours out onto your driveway. =C2=A0
Before you pull the engine again, check your crank case pressure.=C2=A0 On =
my standard 1275 A series I had this problem....=C2=A0 I ended up drilling =
the side of the block and installing a pressure relief hose into a small K&=
N filter.=C2=A0 There are a couple of *fixes* for this including a kit that=
 Mo$$ offers to replace the rear scroll seal with a better seal but it ain'=
t cheap.=C2=A0 Another method is a fix whereby you drill a channel into the=
 scroll and the rear main bearing cap and tighten up the tolerance but if y=
ou screw that up you are out a rear main cap which is not replaceable becau=
se it is line bored. =C2=A0 Don't ask.
Good luck with it.
Cheers!!
Jim=C2=A0
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:

I was hoping it was just an internal pressure issue.=C2=A0 I may not be so =
lucky.=C2=A0 I guess that I can change that by pulling the engine and remov=
ing the flywheel.=C2=A0 I would love to try the straight cut gearbox someho=
w if possible.
Any other ideas.
Thanks a bunch,
Mike=20

     On Monday, March 30, 2015 10:23 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <sprid=
[email-masked]> wrote:
  =20

 Hi Guys and Gals,
I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been stored away for decades=
.=C2=A0 I started it after the rebuild and all looked well after I discover=
ed that I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out.=C2=A0 That took me a w=
hile to figure out until I replaced all of the plug wires 1 went to 4 and 4=
 went to 1 and 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.
Ok.=C2=A0 Here is my real question after running for about 20 minutes with =
varying engine speed, I noticed that about a quart and a half of oil decide=
d it didn't wish to stay in the engine any longer and was being deposited o=
n the driveway by way of the hole in the bottom of the transmission.=C2=A0 =
What happened here?=C2=A0 What should I check?
By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so high compr=
ession.=C2=A0 It sounded spectacular.=C2=A0 I am dying to drive it once I g=
et you all to give me some idea of what may have happened.
Thanks a bunch for all of your thoughts.
Mike C
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Cheers!!
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><spa=
n id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_73100">Rick and Jim,</span></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><d=
iv id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1427714597738_73103">The Huffaker was/is a very tweaked (for its time)=
 A-series 948 that was black crinkle painted and lots of chrome etc as well=
 as 1/8 inch milled off of the block, Arias domed pistons etc. &nbsp;</span=
></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br><=
/span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_83491">I did something that may have cause=
d this and I will explain. &nbsp;I purposely used a regular 948cc draught p=
ipe in place of what the Huffaker was originally. &nbsp;This engine has muc=
ho original chrome goodies such as the tappet covers and the original tappe=
t side cover had what was used on the later 1098cc Spridgets - the canister=
 just like the front on the 1275cc engine but coming out of the tappet cove=
r. &nbsp;I wonder if that had anything to do with it. &nbsp;I am going to p=
ut that on this evening and put oil back in the Exxon Valdez again - this t=
ime kitty litter under it and see what happens. &nbsp;I may have to do the =
old trick of putting another crankcase vent in the fuel pump blocking plate=
. &nbsp;I just dread having to pull the engine when it is so close. &nbsp;E=
veryone keep your fingers crossed!</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427=
714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1=
_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span>Mike</span></div>  <br><div class=
=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"displ=
ay: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helv=
etica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style=3D"f=
ont-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,=
 sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"=
Arial"> On Monday, March 30, 2015 12:32 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets &lt;sp=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div class=
=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv0690469726"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Is the=
 Huffaker built from the standard A series?&nbsp; If so, there is no rear m=
ain seal.&nbsp; Instead they have a "Scroll" seal on the outside of the rea=
r main bearing.&nbsp; There is a spiral groove on the rear of the crank sha=
ft which is supposed to *draw* the oil back into the engine.&nbsp; However,=
 if you have too much crank case pressure the scroll seal can't overcome it=
 and it will weep oil which then collects in the bottom of the bell housing=
 and pours out onto your driveway. &nbsp;<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
>Before you pull the engine again, check your crank case pressure.&nbsp; On=
 my standard 1275 A series I had this problem....&nbsp; I ended up drilling=
 the side of the block and installing a pressure relief hose into a small K=
&amp;N filter.&nbsp; There are a couple of *fixes* for this including a kit=
 that Mo$$ offers to replace the rear scroll seal with a better seal but it=
 ain't cheap.&nbsp; Another method is a fix whereby you drill a channel int=
o the scroll and the rear main bearing cap and tighten up the tolerance but=
 if you screw that up you are out a rear main cap which is not replaceable =
because it is line bored. &nbsp; Don't ask.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div>Good luck with it.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Cheers!=
!<br clear=3D"none">Jim&nbsp;</div></div><div class=3D"yiv0690469726gmail_e=
xtra"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv0690469726gmail_quote">On Mon, Ma=
r 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spridgets@auto=
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d;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"yiv0690469726yqt6890539971" id=3D"yiv069=
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amily:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-=
serif;font-size:12px;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>I was hoping it was just an i=
nternal pressure issue.&nbsp; I may not be so lucky.&nbsp; I guess that I c=
an change that by pulling the engine and removing the flywheel.&nbsp; I wou=
ld love to try the straight cut gearbox somehow if possible.</span></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span=
>Any other ideas.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"none"></s=
pan></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Thanks a bunch,</span></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Mike</span>=
</div>  <br clear=3D"none"><div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
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6h5"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial"> On Monday, March 30, 2015 10:=
23 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto=
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000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvet=
ica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi =
Guys and Gals,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been stored away for dec=
ades.&nbsp; I started it after the rebuild and all looked well after I disc=
overed that I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out.&nbsp; That took me=
 a while to figure out until I replaced all of the plug wires 1 went to 4 a=
nd 4 went to 1 and 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ok.&nbsp; Here is my real question after running=
 for about 20 minutes with varying engine speed, I noticed that about a qua=
rt and a half of oil decided it didn't wish to stay in the engine any longe=
r and was being deposited on the driveway by way of the hole in the bottom =
of the transmission.&nbsp; What happened here?&nbsp; What should I check?</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">By the way, =
the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so high compression.&nbsp=
; It sounded spectacular.&nbsp; I am dying to drive it once I get you all t=
o give me some idea of what may have happened.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks a bunch for all of your thoughts=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike C</d=
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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:39:11 -0600

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This subject comes up SO often with A series motors, and the culprit can oft=
en be placed with the eyebrow piece that forms the top of the rim and galler=
y for the scroll seal.
When rebuilding, these are often removed from the block for tanking and mach=
ining. They should in fact be re installed before align boring.
If they are left off until engine assembly, they have to be properly centere=
d with an even clearance all around, to the scroll on the crank. Since they a=
re not keyed to the block, there is a tendency for them to "walk" to one sid=
e ( dizzy side ) as the three bolts are tightened, creating insufficient cle=
arance ( or even interference ) on that side, and excessive clearance on the=
 other, so the scroll seal will not work effectively. Excessive crankcase pr=
essure will really exacerbate the problem obviously.
Given the size of your leak, this could be the issue with your motor Mike.

Andy

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> On Mar 30, 2015, at 10:54 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> Rick and Jim,
>=20
> The Huffaker was/is a very tweaked (for its time) A-series 948 that was bl=
ack crinkle painted and lots of chrome etc as well as 1/8 inch milled off of=
 the block, Arias domed pistons etc. =20
>=20
> I did something that may have caused this and I will explain.  I purposely=
 used a regular 948cc draught pipe in place of what the Huffaker was origina=
lly.  This engine has mucho original chrome goodies such as the tappet cover=
s and the original tappet side cover had what was used on the later 1098cc S=
pridgets - the canister just like the front on the 1275cc engine but coming o=
ut of the tappet cover.  I wonder if that had anything to do with it.  I am g=
oing to put that on this evening and put oil back in the Exxon Valdez again -=
 this time kitty litter under it and see what happens.  I may have to do the=
 old trick of putting another crankcase vent in the fuel pump blocking plate=
.  I just dread having to pull the engine when it is so close.  Everyone kee=
p your fingers crossed!
>=20
> Mike
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 12:32 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets <spridgets@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Is the Huffaker built from the standard A series?  If so, there is no rear=
 main seal.  Instead they have a "Scroll" seal on the outside of the rear ma=
in bearing.  There is a spiral groove on the rear of the crank shaft which i=
s supposed to *draw* the oil back into the engine.  However, if you have too=
 much crank case pressure the scroll seal can't overcome it and it will weep=
 oil which then collects in the bottom of the bell housing and pours out ont=
o your driveway. =20
>=20
> Before you pull the engine again, check your crank case pressure.  On my s=
tandard 1275 A series I had this problem....  I ended up drilling the side o=
f the block and installing a pressure relief hose into a small K&N filter.  T=
here are a couple of *fixes* for this including a kit that Mo$$ offers to re=
place the rear scroll seal with a better seal but it ain't cheap.  Another m=
ethod is a fix whereby you drill a channel into the scroll and the rear main=
 bearing cap and tighten up the tolerance but if you screw that up you are o=
ut a rear main cap which is not replaceable because it is line bored.   Don'=
t ask.
>=20
> Good luck with it.
>=20
> Cheers!!
> Jim=20
>=20
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <spridgets@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
> I was hoping it was just an internal pressure issue.  I may not be so luck=
y.  I guess that I can change that by pulling the engine and removing the fl=
ywheel.  I would love to try the straight cut gearbox somehow if possible.
>=20
> Any other ideas.
>=20
> Thanks a bunch,
>=20
> Mike
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Monday, March 30, 2015 10:23 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <spridgets=
@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Hi Guys and Gals,
>=20
> I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been stored away for decade=
s.  I started it after the rebuild and all looked well after I discovered th=
at I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out.  That took me a while to fig=
ure out until I replaced all of the plug wires 1 went to 4 and 4 went to 1 a=
nd 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.
>=20
> Ok.  Here is my real question after running for about 20 minutes with vary=
ing engine speed, I noticed that about a quart and a half of oil decided it d=
idn't wish to stay in the engine any longer and was being deposited on the d=
riveway by way of the hole in the bottom of the transmission.  What happened=
 here?  What should I check?
>=20
> By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so high comp=
ression.  It sounded spectacular.  I am dying to drive it once I get you all=
 to give me some idea of what may have happened.
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>This subject comes up SO often with A s=
eries motors, and the culprit can often be placed with the eyebrow piece tha=
t forms the top of the rim and gallery for the scroll seal.</div><div>When r=
ebuilding, these are often removed from the block for tanking and machining.=
 They should in fact be re installed before align boring.</div><div>If they a=
re left off until engine assembly, they have to be properly centered with an=
 even clearance all around, to the scroll on the crank. Since they are not k=
eyed to the block, there is a tendency for them to "walk" to one side ( dizz=
y side ) as the three bolts are tightened, creating insufficient clearance (=
 or even interference ) on that side, and excessive clearance on the other, s=
o the scroll seal will not work effectively. Excessive crankcase pressure wi=
ll really exacerbate the problem obviously.</div><div>Given the size of your=
 leak, this could be the issue with your motor Mike.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Andy</div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Mar 30, 2015, at=
 10:54 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox=
.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-fami=
ly:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-seri=
f;font-size:12px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><=
span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_73100">Rick and Jim,</span></div><div i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><d=
iv id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_1_1427714597738_73103">The Huffaker was/is a very tweaked (for its time) A=
-series 948 that was black crinkle painted and lots of chrome etc as well as=
 1/8 inch milled off of the block, Arias domed pistons etc. &nbsp;</span></d=
iv><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span=
></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_83491">I did something that may have caused this a=
nd I will explain. &nbsp;I purposely used a regular 948cc draught pipe in pl=
ace of what the Huffaker was originally. &nbsp;This engine has mucho origina=
l chrome goodies such as the tappet covers and the original tappet side cove=
r had what was used on the later 1098cc Spridgets - the canister just like t=
he front on the 1275cc engine but coming out of the tappet cover. &nbsp;I wo=
nder if that had anything to do with it. &nbsp;I am going to put that on thi=
s evening and put oil back in the Exxon Valdez again - this time kitty litte=
r under it and see what happens. &nbsp;I may have to do the old trick of put=
ting another crankcase vent in the fuel pump blocking plate. &nbsp;I just dr=
ead having to pull the engine when it is so close. &nbsp;Everyone keep your f=
ingers crossed!</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=
=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030"=
 dir=3D"ltr"><span>Mike</span></div>  <br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><=
br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D=
"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande=
, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, H=
elvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;=
"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Monday, March 30, 2=
015 12:32 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox=
.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><=
br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv0690469726"><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Is the Huffaker built from the standard A series?&nbsp; If so, there i=
s no rear main seal.&nbsp; Instead they have a "Scroll" seal on the outside o=
f the rear main bearing.&nbsp; There is a spiral groove on the rear of the c=
rank shaft which is supposed to *draw* the oil back into the engine.&nbsp; H=
owever, if you have too much crank case pressure the scroll seal can't overc=
ome it and it will weep oil which then collects in the bottom of the bell ho=
using and pours out onto your driveway. &nbsp;<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div>Before you pull the engine again, check your crank case pressure.&nbsp;=
 On my standard 1275 A series I had this problem....&nbsp; I ended up drilli=
ng the side of the block and installing a pressure relief hose into a small K=
&amp;N filter.&nbsp; There are a couple of *fixes* for this including a kit t=
hat Mo$$ offers to replace the rear scroll seal with a better seal but it ai=
n't cheap.&nbsp; Another method is a fix whereby you drill a channel into th=
e scroll and the rear main bearing cap and tighten up the tolerance but if y=
ou screw that up you are out a rear main cap which is not replaceable becaus=
e it is line bored. &nbsp; Don't ask.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v>Good luck with it.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Cheers!!<br cle=
ar=3D"none">Jim&nbsp;</div></div><div class=3D"yiv0690469726gmail_extra"><br=
 clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv0690469726gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 30, 2015=
 at 9:53 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nof=
ollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
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>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv0690469726gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex;"><div class=3D"yiv0690469726yqt6890539971" id=3D"yiv0690469726yqt93474"=
><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNe=
ue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12=
px;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>I was hoping it was just an internal pressure is=
sue.&nbsp; I may not be so lucky.&nbsp; I guess that I can change that by pu=
lling the engine and removing the flywheel.&nbsp; I would love to try the st=
raight cut gearbox somehow if possible.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><=
br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Any other ideas.</span=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><span>Thanks a bunch,</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"non=
e"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Mike</span></div>  <br clear=3D"none"=
><div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"display:bloc=
k;"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ari=
al, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"> <div style=3D"font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fon=
t-size:16px;"><div><div class=3D"yiv0690469726h5"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font f=
ace=3D"Arial"> On Monday, March 30, 2015 10:23 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridge=
ts &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spridge=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </div>  <br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> </div></div><div><div><div class=3D"yiv069046=
9726h5"><div><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family=
:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;=
font-size:12px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Guys and Gals,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engin=
e that had been stored away for decades.&nbsp; I started it after the rebuil=
d and all looked well after I discovered that I had the distributor drive ge=
ar in 180 out.&nbsp; That took me a while to figure out until I replaced all=
 of the plug wires 1 went to 4 and 4 went to 1 and 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ok.&nbsp; Here is m=
y real question after running for about 20 minutes with varying engine speed=
, I noticed that about a quart and a half of oil decided it didn't wish to s=
tay in the engine any longer and was being deposited on the driveway by way o=
f the hole in the bottom of the transmission.&nbsp; What happened here?&nbsp=
; What should I check?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so h=
igh compression.&nbsp; It sounded spectacular.&nbsp; I am dying to drive it o=
nce I get you all to give me some idea of what may have happened.</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks a bunch for all o=
f your thoughts.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
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The 948 road draft tube may not be enough.  Also, the road draft tube really=
 only works when the car is going down the road.  The end of the tube is cut=
 at an angle which causes a slight vacuum in the tube and draws vapors out o=
f the engine.  Sitting in your garage running =3D no vacuum in the tube.=20

Which car is this motor going in?  Red Bugeye, grey Sprite, or a Seven?

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>The 948 road draft tube may not be eno=
ugh. &nbsp;Also, the road draft tube really only works when the car is going=
 down the road. &nbsp;The end of the tube is cut at an angle which causes a s=
light vacuum in the tube and draws vapors out of the engine. &nbsp;Sitting i=
n your garage running =3D no vacuum in the tube.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><=
div>Which car is this motor going in? &nbsp;Red Bugeye, grey Sprite, or a Se=
ven?<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Mar 30, 2015, at 12:54 PM=
, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helve=
ticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-s=
ize:12px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_73100">Rick and Jim,</span></div><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14277=
14597738_73103">The Huffaker was/is a very tweaked (for its time) A-series 9=
48 that was black crinkle painted and lots of chrome etc as well as 1/8 inch=
 milled off of the block, Arias domed pistons etc. &nbsp;</span></div><div i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><d=
iv id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_1_1427714597738_83491">I did something that may have caused this and I wil=
l explain. &nbsp;I purposely used a regular 948cc draught pipe in place of w=
hat the Huffaker was originally. &nbsp;This engine has mucho original chrome=
 goodies such as the tappet covers and the original tappet side cover had wh=
at was used on the later 1098cc Spridgets - the canister just like the front=
 on the 1275cc engine but coming out of the tappet cover. &nbsp;I wonder if t=
hat had anything to do with it. &nbsp;I am going to put that on this evening=
 and put oil back in the Exxon Valdez again - this time kitty litter under i=
t and see what happens. &nbsp;I may have to do the old trick of putting anot=
her crankcase vent in the fuel pump blocking plate. &nbsp;I just dread havin=
g to pull the engine when it is so close. &nbsp;Everyone keep your fingers c=
rossed!</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"ltr"=
><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1427714597738_71030" dir=3D"=
ltr"><span>Mike</span></div>  <br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div=
><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-f=
amily: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-=
serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetic=
a Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div=
 dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Monday, March 30, 2015 12:=
32 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <di=
v class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv0690469726"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Is the Huffaker built from the standard A series?&nbsp; If so, there is no r=
ear main seal.&nbsp; Instead they have a "Scroll" seal on the outside of the=
 rear main bearing.&nbsp; There is a spiral groove on the rear of the crank s=
haft which is supposed to *draw* the oil back into the engine.&nbsp; However=
, if you have too much crank case pressure the scroll seal can't overcome it=
 and it will weep oil which then collects in the bottom of the bell housing a=
nd pours out onto your driveway. &nbsp;<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Be=
fore you pull the engine again, check your crank case pressure.&nbsp; On my s=
tandard 1275 A series I had this problem....&nbsp; I ended up drilling the s=
ide of the block and installing a pressure relief hose into a small K&amp;N f=
ilter.&nbsp; There are a couple of *fixes* for this including a kit that Mo$=
$ offers to replace the rear scroll seal with a better seal but it ain't che=
ap.&nbsp; Another method is a fix whereby you drill a channel into the scrol=
l and the rear main bearing cap and tighten up the tolerance but if you scre=
w that up you are out a rear main cap which is not replaceable because it is=
 line bored. &nbsp; Don't ask.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Good l=
uck with it.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Cheers!!<br clear=3D"no=
ne">Jim&nbsp;</div></div><div class=3D"yiv0690469726gmail_extra"><br clear=3D=
"none"><div class=3D"yiv0690469726gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:53 A=
M, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv0690469726gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div=
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ica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><span>I was hoping it was just an internal pressure issue.&nbsp; I=
 may not be so lucky.&nbsp; I guess that I can change that by pulling the en=
gine and removing the flywheel.&nbsp; I would love to try the straight cut g=
earbox somehow if possible.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"=
none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Any other ideas.</span></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Than=
ks a bunch,</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Mike</span></div>  <br clear=3D"none"><div><br cle=
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 On Monday, March 30, 2015 10:23 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D=
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</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been s=
tored away for decades.&nbsp; I started it after the rebuild and all looked w=
ell after I discovered that I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out.&nbs=
p; That took me a while to figure out until I replaced all of the plug wires=
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r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ok.&nbsp; Here is my real question a=
fter running for about 20 minutes with varying engine speed, I noticed that a=
bout a quart and a half of oil decided it didn't wish to stay in the engine a=
ny longer and was being deposited on the driveway by way of the hole in the b=
ottom of the transmission.&nbsp; What happened here?&nbsp; What should I che=
ck?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">By the w=
ay, the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so high compression.&n=
bsp; It sounded spectacular.&nbsp; I am dying to drive it once I get you all=
 to give me some idea of what may have happened.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br c=
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One thing you can do to check the back pressure is to remove the oil filler
cap and stretch a nitrile glove over the hole.  When you start the engine
you shouldn't see the glove blow up like a balloon.  If it does - too much
crank case pressure.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM, [email-masked] <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Rick and Jim,
>
> The Huffaker was/is a very tweaked (for its time) A-series 948 that was
> black crinkle painted and lots of chrome etc as well as 1/8 inch milled off
> of the block, Arias domed pistons etc.
>
> I did something that may have caused this and I will explain.  I purposely
> used a regular 948cc draught pipe in place of what the Huffaker was
> originally.  This engine has mucho original chrome goodies such as the
> tappet covers and the original tappet side cover had what was used on the
> later 1098cc Spridgets - the canister just like the front on the 1275cc
> engine but coming out of the tappet cover.  I wonder if that had anything
> to do with it.  I am going to put that on this evening and put oil back in
> the Exxon Valdez again - this time kitty litter under it and see what
> happens.  I may have to do the old trick of putting another crankcase vent
> in the fuel pump blocking plate.  I just dread having to pull the engine
> when it is so close.  Everyone keep your fingers crossed!
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>   On Monday, March 30, 2015 12:32 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Is the Huffaker built from the standard A series?  If so, there is no rear
> main seal.  Instead they have a "Scroll" seal on the outside of the rear
> main bearing.  There is a spiral groove on the rear of the crank shaft
> which is supposed to *draw* the oil back into the engine.  However, if you
> have too much crank case pressure the scroll seal can't overcome it and it
> will weep oil which then collects in the bottom of the bell housing and
> pours out onto your driveway.
>
> Before you pull the engine again, check your crank case pressure.  On my
> standard 1275 A series I had this problem....  I ended up drilling the side
> of the block and installing a pressure relief hose into a small K&N
> filter.  There are a couple of *fixes* for this including a kit that Mo$$
> offers to replace the rear scroll seal with a better seal but it ain't
> cheap.  Another method is a fix whereby you drill a channel into the scroll
> and the rear main bearing cap and tighten up the tolerance but if you screw
> that up you are out a rear main cap which is not replaceable because it is
> line bored.   Don't ask.
>
> Good luck with it.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> I was hoping it was just an internal pressure issue.  I may not be so
> lucky.  I guess that I can change that by pulling the engine and removing
> the flywheel.  I would love to try the straight cut gearbox somehow if
> possible.
>
> Any other ideas.
>
> Thanks a bunch,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>   On Monday, March 30, 2015 10:23 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Guys and Gals,
>
> I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been stored away for
> decades.  I started it after the rebuild and all looked well after I
> discovered that I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out.  That took me
> a while to figure out until I replaced all of the plug wires 1 went to 4
> and 4 went to 1 and 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.
>
> Ok.  Here is my real question after running for about 20 minutes with
> varying engine speed, I noticed that about a quart and a half of oil
> decided it didn't wish to stay in the engine any longer and was being
> deposited on the driveway by way of the hole in the bottom of the
> transmission.  What happened here?  What should I check?
>
> By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so high
> compression.  It sounded spectacular.  I am dying to drive it once I get
> you all to give me some idea of what may have happened.
>
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> Jim Johnson
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<div dir=3D"ltr">One thing you can do to check the back pressure is to remo=
ve the oil filler cap and stretch a nitrile glove over the hole.=C2=A0 When=
 you start the engine you shouldn&#39;t see the glove blow up like a balloo=
n.=C2=A0 If it does - too much crank case pressure.<div><br></div><div>Chee=
rs!!<br>Jim=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:lotuspilot@=
frontier.com">[email-masked]</a> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"c=
olor:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,He=
lvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><div dir=3D"ltr"><sp=
an>Rick and Jim,</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><span>The Huffaker was/is a very tweaked (for its time) A-series=
 948 that was black crinkle painted and lots of chrome etc as well as 1/8 i=
nch milled off of the block, Arias domed pistons etc. =C2=A0</span></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>I did somethin=
g that may have caused this and I will explain.=C2=A0 I purposely used a re=
gular 948cc draught pipe in place of what the Huffaker was originally.=C2=
=A0 This engine has mucho original chrome goodies such as the tappet covers=
 and the original tappet side cover had what was used on the later 1098cc S=
pridgets - the canister just like the front on the 1275cc engine but coming=
 out of the tappet cover.=C2=A0 I wonder if that had anything to do with it=
.=C2=A0 I am going to put that on this evening and put oil back in the Exxo=
n Valdez again - this time kitty litter under it and see what happens.=C2=
=A0 I may have to do the old trick of putting another crankcase vent in the=
 fuel pump blocking plate.=C2=A0 I just dread having to pull the engine whe=
n it is so close.=C2=A0 Everyone keep your fingers crossed!</span></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Mike</span></di=
v>  <br><div><br><br></div><div style=3D"display:block"> <div style=3D"font=
-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-ser=
if;font-size:12px"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,=
Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir=3D"ltr">=
 <font face=3D"Arial"> On Monday, March 30, 2015 12:32 PM, bmwwxman . via S=
pridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div><=
div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Is the Huffaker built from the standard A series?=
=C2=A0 If so, there is no rear main seal.=C2=A0 Instead they have a &quot;S=
croll&quot; seal on the outside of the rear main bearing.=C2=A0 There is a =
spiral groove on the rear of the crank shaft which is supposed to *draw* th=
e oil back into the engine.=C2=A0 However, if you have too much crank case =
pressure the scroll seal can&#39;t overcome it and it will weep oil which t=
hen collects in the bottom of the bell housing and pours out onto your driv=
eway. =C2=A0<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Before you pull the engine a=
gain, check your crank case pressure.=C2=A0 On my standard 1275 A series I =
had this problem....=C2=A0 I ended up drilling the side of the block and in=
stalling a pressure relief hose into a small K&amp;N filter.=C2=A0 There ar=
e a couple of *fixes* for this including a kit that Mo$$ offers to replace =
the rear scroll seal with a better seal but it ain&#39;t cheap.=C2=A0 Anoth=
er method is a fix whereby you drill a channel into the scroll and the rear=
 main bearing cap and tighten up the tolerance but if you screw that up you=
 are out a rear main cap which is not replaceable because it is line bored.=
 =C2=A0 Don&#39;t ask.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Good luck wi=
th it.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Cheers!!<br clear=3D"none">J=
im=C2=A0</div></div><div><br clear=3D"none"><div>On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:=
53 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow=
" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquo=
te style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvet=
icaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:1=
2px"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>I was hoping it was just an internal pressure i=
ssue.=C2=A0 I may not be so lucky.=C2=A0 I guess that I can change that by =
pulling the engine and removing the flywheel.=C2=A0 I would love to try the=
 straight cut gearbox somehow if possible.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><sp=
an><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Any other ideas.<=
/span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><span>Thanks a bunch,</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br clear=
=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>Mike</span></div>  <br clear=
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 March 30, 2015 10:23 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollo=
w" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
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,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Hi Guys and Gals,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been s=
tored away for decades.=C2=A0 I started it after the rebuild and all looked=
 well after I discovered that I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out.=
=C2=A0 That took me a while to figure out until I replaced all of the plug =
wires 1 went to 4 and 4 went to 1 and 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ok.=C2=A0 Here is my real que=
stion after running for about 20 minutes with varying engine speed, I notic=
ed that about a quart and a half of oil decided it didn&#39;t wish to stay =
in the engine any longer and was being deposited on the driveway by way of =
the hole in the bottom of the transmission.=C2=A0 What happened here?=C2=A0=
 What should I check?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so=
 high compression.=C2=A0 It sounded spectacular.=C2=A0 I am dying to drive =
it once I get you all to give me some idea of what may have happened.</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks a bunch f=
or all of your thoughts.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
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