Subject: [Spridgets] How can you kill an alternator

From: Trevor Jessie via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:41:12 +0000

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My real question is this :  assuming the bearings do not fail, how fast can
you turn an alternator before it toasts something electronic?   Is there a
huge margin, or are they engineered near their limited rpm?

-Trevor

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<p dir=3D"ltr">My real question is this :=C2=A0 assuming the bearings do no=
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<p dir=3D"ltr">-Trevor</p>

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Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:17:00 -0600

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From: WeslakeMonza1330--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:15:09 -0500

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I rebuilt a Lucas ACR alternator with a new slip ring,diode pack etc and it 
 was never that fantastic.  I figure that over time unless the windings are 
 replaced in the alternator the output wouldn't match a new one.  It' also  
the case that reconditioned can sometimes mean a fresh coat of paint to 
some  companies.  At Sprite Rush 98 (?) when Frank Clarici had the Green Sprite 
 it had a really neat small alternator on it.  Back in the UK I sourced  
something similar because it weighed less and looked better than the Lucas  
ACR.

In a message dated 02/02/2015 22:12:19 GMT Standard Time,  
[email-masked] writes:

I'm just  trying to rule out possibilities on how I'm killing so many 
alternators.   They fail slowly.  Gradually requiring more and more rpms before 
they  start charging and eventually they quit charging regardless on rpms.  
I'm  on my fourth "rebuilt" Lucas unit from a major chain autoparts  store.

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From: WeslakeMonza1330--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:17:15 -0500

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Each is designed for a specific engine/application so will have alternator  
rpm to match engine rpm.  Figure on an 8000 rpm engine in a road car -  
Honduh - to have a wide rpm range compared to the Sprite/Midget.

In a message dated 02/02/2015 22:22:17 GMT Standard Time,  
[email-masked] writes:

My real question is this :  assuming the bearings do not fail,  how fast 
can you turn an alternator before it toasts something  electronic?   Is there 
a huge margin, or are they engineered near  their limited rpm? 
-Trevor

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Honduh - to have a wide rpm range compared to the Sprite/Midget.</DIV>
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  <P dir=3Dltr>My real question is this :&nbsp; assuming the bearings do=
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From: WeslakeMonza1330--- via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:18:21 -0500

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Its going bad I think you say, while we say it's on its way out.
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[email-masked] writes:

So how  come my waring light comes on when at low RPM=E2=80=99s and I have=
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alternator?

Larry

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<DIV>Its going bad I think you say, while we say it's on its way out.</DIV=
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One engine that was high rev that comes to mind was the older Saturn =
back in the 90's and earyl 2000.  You might scope it out to see if it =
would be a better option to use on a Sprite
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  From: WeslakeMonza1330--- via Spridgets=20
  To: [email-masked] ; [email-masked]=20
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 1:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How can you kill an alternator

  Each is designed for a specific engine/application so will have =
alternator rpm to match engine rpm.  Figure on an 8000 rpm engine in a =
road car - Honduh - to have a wide rpm range compared to the =
Sprite/Midget.

  In a message dated 02/02/2015 22:22:17 GMT Standard Time, =
[email-masked] writes:
    My real question is this :  assuming the bearings do not fail, how =
fast can you turn an alternator before it toasts something electronic?   =
Is there a huge margin, or are they engineered near their limited rpm?

    -Trevor

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