Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Not LBC Generator flooded ideas?

From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:44:04 -0500

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Saw this thread. Trying it first.

"If you think the cylinders have been flooded remove the spark plugs and
crank the engine over by hand and let air out or use compressed air into
the spark plug hole to dry it faster."

http://forums.aaca.org/f120/fuel-flooded-engine-292017.html

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> List,
> It appears I left the fuel valve on over the summer which is why I can't
> get my generator started. I pulled the plug and need to know a tip to dry
> the plug and get this baby started. It is new and only used an hr durning
> Super Storm Sandy. I have a can of electrical cleaner, starting fluid and
> canned air but I would have to dig around for much else or go to the store
> if they are still open. Only got 2 hrs of sleep last night and can't think
> of a thing other than dry the plug and let it sit.
>
> Manual if that helps.
>
>
> http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Lin
>
>
> PS Power was out Saturday and seems I'm in an area that gets hit 4x a year
> with power outs. Expecting 2' or more snow by tonight.
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Saw this thread. Trying it first.<div><br></div><div>&quot=
;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:=
Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px">If you think=
 the cylinders have been flooded remove the spark plugs and crank the engin=
e over by hand and let air out or use compressed air into the spark plug ho=
le to dry it faster.&quot;</span><br><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://=
forums.aaca.org/f120/fuel-flooded-engine-292017.html">http://forums.aaca.or=
g/f120/fuel-flooded-engine-292017.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br=
></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Linda Grunthaner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div>List,</div>It appears I left the fuel valve on over the summer which =
is why I can&#39;t get my generator started. I pulled the plug and need to =
know a tip to dry the plug and get this baby started. It is new and only us=
ed an hr durning Super Storm Sandy. I have a can of electrical cleaner, sta=
rting fluid and canned air but I would have to dig around for much else or =
go to the store if they are still open. Only got 2 hrs of sleep last night =
and can&#39;t think of a thing other than dry the plug and let it sit.=C2=
=A0<div><br></div><div>Manual if that helps.</div><div><br></div><div><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/powe=
rforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF=
_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pd=
f</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Lin</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>PS Power was out Saturday a=
nd seems I&#39;m in an area that gets hit 4x a year with power outs. Expect=
ing 2&#39; or more snow by tonight.=C2=A0</div></div>
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:05:09 -0600

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If there was a LOT of gas leaking into the cylinder, chances are a fair
amount leaked the rings into the oil.  You should really change the oil to
avoid scoring the cylinder and bearings when you start is back up.  Id
suggest also spraying a very small amount of light oil into the cylinder to
pre-lube the cylinder walls and rings.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">If there was a LOT of gas leaking into the cylinder, chanc=
es are a fair amount leaked the rings into the oil.=C2=A0 You should really=
 change the oil to avoid scoring the cylinder and bearings when you start i=
s back up.=C2=A0 Id suggest also spraying a very small amount of light oil =
into the cylinder to pre-lube the cylinder walls and rings.<br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at=
 3:42 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv>List,</div>It appears I left the fuel valve on over the summer which is =
why I can&#39;t get my generator started. I pulled the plug and need to kno=
w a tip to dry the plug and get this baby started. It is new and only used =
an hr durning Super Storm Sandy. I have a can of electrical cleaner, starti=
ng fluid and canned air but I would have to dig around for much else or go =
to the store if they are still open. Only got 2 hrs of sleep last night and=
 can&#39;t think of a thing other than dry the plug and let it sit.=C2=A0<d=
iv><br></div><div>Manual if that helps.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D=
"http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/powerforc=
e/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Supp=
ort_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf</a>=
<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance.</div><div><br></div><div>L=
in</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>PS Power was out Saturday and se=
ems I&#39;m in an area that gets hit 4x a year with power outs. Expecting 2=
&#39; or more snow by tonight.=C2=A0</div></div>
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From: Peter Caldwell via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:07:20 -0600

Propane

At 03:42 PM 1/26/2015, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets wrote:
>List,
>It appears I left the fuel valve on over the 
>summer which is why I can't get my generator 
>started. I pulled the plug and need to know a 
>tip to dry the plug and get this baby started. 
>It is new and only used an hr durning Super 
>Storm Sandy. I have a can of electrical cleaner, 
>starting fluid and canned air but I would have 
>to dig around for much else or go to the store 
>if they are still open. Only got 2 hrs of sleep 
>last night and can't think of a thing other than dry the plug and let it sit.Â
>
>Manual if that helps.
>
><http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf>http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Lin
>
>
>PS Power was out Saturday and seems I'm in an 
>area that gets hit 4x a year with power outs. 
>Expecting 2' or more snow by tonight.Â
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From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 17:50:20 -0500

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Linda,

Use your compressor to dry the plug.  Pull the starter rope a half dozen tim=
es with the plug removed.  Then reinstall the plug and try to start it again=
.  You sure you have fresh gas in the tank?

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

> On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
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> List,
> It appears I left the fuel valve on over the summer which is why I can't g=
et my generator started. I pulled the plug and need to know a tip to dry the=
 plug and get this baby started. It is new and only used an hr durning Super=
 Storm Sandy. I have a can of electrical cleaner, starting fluid and canned a=
ir but I would have to dig around for much else or go to the store if they a=
re still open. Only got 2 hrs of sleep last night and can't think of a thing=
 other than dry the plug and let it sit.=20
>=20
> Manual if that helps.
>=20
> http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/powerforc=
e/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf
>=20
> Thanks in advance.
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> Lin
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 with power outs. Expecting 2' or more snow by tonight.=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Linda,</div><div><br></div><div>Use yo=
ur compressor to dry the plug. &nbsp;Pull the starter rope a half dozen time=
s with the plug removed. &nbsp;Then reinstall the plug and try to start it a=
gain. &nbsp;You sure you have fresh gas in the tank?</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Rick<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:42 P=
M, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>List,</div>It appears I left the fuel valv=
e on over the summer which is why I can't get my generator started. I pulled=
 the plug and need to know a tip to dry the plug and get this baby started. I=
t is new and only used an hr durning Super Storm Sandy. I have a can of elec=
trical cleaner, starting fluid and canned air but I would have to dig around=
 for much else or go to the store if they are still open. Only got 2 hrs of s=
leep last night and can't think of a thing other than dry the plug and let i=
t sit.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Manual if that helps.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv><a href=3D"http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manua=
ls/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf">http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Fil=
es/king_canada_tools/manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf</a><br></di=
v><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance.</div><div><br></div><div>Lin</div><=
div><br></div><div><br></div><div>PS Power was out Saturday and seems I'm in=
 an area that gets hit 4x a year with power outs. Expecting 2' or more snow b=
y tonight.&nbsp;</div></div>
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From: Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:16:07 -0800

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Lin,
If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and replace
with fresh!  Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite unusable.
I also recommend that you switch to an alternator.....
Hal

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Linda,
>
> Use your compressor to dry the plug.  Pull the starter rope a half dozen
> times with the plug removed.  Then reinstall the plug and try to start it
> again.  You sure you have fresh gas in the tank?
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If there is any of the old pe=
trol left in the tank drain it and replace with fresh!=C2=A0 Modern fuels w=
ill absorb water and become quite unusable.=C2=A0 <br></div>I also recommen=
d that you switch to an alternator.....<br></div>Hal<br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:50 P=
M, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridget=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Linda,</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Use your compressor to dry the plug.=C2=A0 Pull the s=
tarter rope a half dozen times with the plug removed.=C2=A0 Then reinstall =
the plug and try to start it again.=C2=A0 You sure you have fresh gas in th=
e tank?</div><div><br></div><div>Rick<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><di=
v><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Linda Grunthaner =
via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>List,</div>It appears I left the fuel =
valve on over the summer which is why I can&#39;t get my generator started.=
 I pulled the plug and need to know a tip to dry the plug and get this baby=
 started. It is new and only used an hr durning Super Storm Sandy. I have a=
 can of electrical cleaner, starting fluid and canned air but I would have =
to dig around for much else or go to the store if they are still open. Only=
 got 2 hrs of sleep last night and can&#39;t think of a thing other than dr=
y the plug and let it sit.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Manual if that helps.</=
div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/k=
ing_canada_tools/manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/power=
force/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in a=
dvance.</div><div><br></div><div>Lin</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><di=
v>PS Power was out Saturday and seems I&#39;m in an area that gets hit 4x a=
 year with power outs. Expecting 2&#39; or more snow by tonight.=C2=A0</div=
></div>
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From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
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Gas is full. Yes switch is on, no low light is on and wouldn't be because
it doesn't have a battery but I checked the oil and is like new and no gas
smell. I'll put the plug on the wire and not screwed in and pull the pull
start to see if I get spark. I'll do it for both the old plug and the new
plug. If I don't get spark something is wrong that I'm overlooking.

Got new plugs off I go.
Stand by.
Lin

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:05 PM, John Innis <[email-masked]> wrote:

> With the plug out, and lying on the head, do you get spark when you pull
> on the recoil?  If you are not getting spark, no amount of ehter is going
> to help.  Is there a shutoff switch somewhere? (Item 14 in the manual).
> Checked that it is in the RUN position?  Is the Low Oil Light on?  Sounds
> like this model has a low oil cutoff, if it thinks the oil is low it also
> might not start.
>
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>> Heading to auto parts store pulled till exhaustion. I hate pull start
>> except my Sprite ...wink.
>> After I install the new plug can I spray starting fluid in the carb whic=
h
>> appears to be a tiny opening behind the air filter but looks very tiny?
>>
>> see manual above
>>
>> I smell NO gas in the oil and I don't even think I smelled it on the plu=
g.
>>
>> I just want a small spark. Maybe I am overlooking something? This is fro=
m
>> Canada and odd instructions and no labels on anything.
>> Off to the store, back in a few,
>> Lin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Peter Caldwell <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Propane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> It appears I left the fuel valve on over the summer which is why I
>>>> can't get my generator started. I pulled the plug and need to know a t=
ip to
>>>> dry the plug and get this baby started. It is new and only used an hr
>>>> durning Super Storm Sandy. I have a can of electrical cleaner, startin=
g
>>>> fluid and canned air but I would have to dig around for much else or g=
o to
>>>> the store if they are still open. Only got 2 hrs of sleep last night a=
nd
>>>> can't think of a thing other than dry the plug and let it sit.=C3=82
>>>>
>>>> Manual if that helps.
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_
>>>> tools/manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf>http://
>>>> www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/
>>>> manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Lin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PS Power was out Saturday and seems I'm in an area that gets hit 4x a
>>>> year with power outs. Expecting 2' or more snow by tonight.=C3=82
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Gas is full. Yes switch is on, no low light is on and woul=
dn&#39;t be because it doesn&#39;t have a battery but I checked the oil and=
 is like new and no gas smell. I&#39;ll put the plug on the wire and not sc=
rewed in and pull the pull start to see if I get spark. I&#39;ll do it for =
both the old plug and the new plug. If I don&#39;t get spark something is w=
rong that I&#39;m overlooking.<div><br></div><div>Got new plugs off I go.</=
div><div>Stand by.</div><div>Lin</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:05 PM, John Innis <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">jd=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">With the plug out, and lying on the head, do you get spark wh=
en you pull on the recoil?=C2=A0 If you are not getting spark, no amount of=
 ehter is going to help.=C2=A0 Is there a shutoff switch somewhere? (Item 1=
4 in the manual).=C2=A0 Checked that it is in the RUN position?=C2=A0 Is th=
e Low Oil Light on?=C2=A0 Sounds like this model has a low oil cutoff, if i=
t thinks the oil is low it also might not start.=C2=A0 <br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On M=
on, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Headi=
ng to auto parts store pulled till exhaustion. I hate pull start except my =
Sprite ...wink.<div>After I install the new plug can I spray starting fluid=
 in the carb which appears to be a tiny opening behind the air filter but l=
ooks very tiny?</div><div><br></div><div>see manual above</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>I smell NO gas in the oil and I don&#39;t even think I smelled it o=
n the plug.</div><div><br></div><div>I just want a small spark. Maybe I am =
overlooking something? This is from Canada and odd instructions and no labe=
ls on anything.=C2=A0</div><div>Off to the store, back in a few,</div><div>=
Lin</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>=
<div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon,=
 Jan 26, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Peter Caldwell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Propane<span><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
At 03:42 PM 1/26/2015, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
List,<br>
It appears I left the fuel valve on over the summer which is why I can&#39;=
t get my generator started. I pulled the plug and need to know a tip to dry=
 the plug and get this baby started. It is new and only used an hr durning =
Super Storm Sandy. I have a can of electrical cleaner, starting fluid and c=
anned air but I would have to dig around for much else or go to the store i=
f they are still open. Only got 2 hrs of sleep last night and can&#39;t thi=
nk of a thing other than dry the plug and let it sit.=C3=82<br>
<br>
Manual if that helps.<br>
<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/man=
uals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ujr.=
ca/EN/PDF_<u></u>Support_Files/king_canada_<u></u>tools/manuals/powerforce/=
KCG-<u></u>5625G_manual-eng.pdf</a>&gt;<a href=3D"http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_=
Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf=
" target=3D"_blank">http://<u></u>www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_<u></u>Files/ki=
ng_canada_tools/<u></u>manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_<u></u>manual-eng.pdf</=
a><br>
<br>
Thanks in advance.<br>
<br>
Lin<br>
<br>
<br>
PS Power was out Saturday and seems I&#39;m in an area that gets hit 4x a y=
ear with power outs. Expecting 2&#39; or more snow by tonight.=C3=82<span><=
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I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I added 2
gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs with
year old gas.
I really wish I got a genny with elect start.
Off I go.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

>> year with power outs. Expecting 2' or more snow by tonight.
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a lon=
g time. I added 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite al=
ways runs with year old gas.<div>I really wish I got a genny with elect sta=
rt.=C2=A0</div><div>Off I go.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via S=
pridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If th=
ere is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and replace with fre=
sh!=C2=A0 Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite unusable.=C2=A0 <=
br></div>I also recommend that you switch to an alternator.....<br></div>Ha=
l<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><=
div class=3D"h5">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Lin=
da,</div><div><br></div><div>Use your compressor to dry the plug.=C2=A0 Pul=
l the starter rope a half dozen times with the plug removed.=C2=A0 Then rei=
nstall the plug and try to start it again.=C2=A0 You sure you have fresh ga=
s in the tank?</div><div><br></div><div>Rick<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</=
div><div><div><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Sp=
ridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">s=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>List,</div>It appears I left the fuel valve o=
n over the summer which is why I can&#39;t get my generator started. I pull=
ed the plug and need to know a tip to dry the plug and get this baby starte=
d. It is new and only used an hr durning Super Storm Sandy. I have a can of=
 electrical cleaner, starting fluid and canned air but I would have to dig =
around for much else or go to the store if they are still open. Only got 2 =
hrs of sleep last night and can&#39;t think of a thing other than dry the p=
lug and let it sit.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Manual if that helps.</div><di=
v><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_can=
ada_tools/manuals/powerforce/KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/powerforce/K=
CG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Lin</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>PS Po=
wer was out Saturday and seems I&#39;m in an area that gets hit 4x a year w=
ith power outs. Expecting 2&#39; or more snow by tonight.=C2=A0</div></div>
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We used to put the plug in an oven (I used the grill at home, it was quicke=
r heating up than the oven was) or heat the metal up with a gas torch=A0bef=
ore refitting it if it was too wet.=A0 Hold the 'wire' end with a pair of g=
rips at the correct angle to put it back in the head as you play a flame on=
 the working end, or if you have an all metal socket type plug spanner use =
that, it makes life a lot easier.=A0=0AThe advise about the oil getting thi=
nned out and the bore walls being washed of lubrication could be very valid=
 if you feel a lot of fuel has passed through. =A0Could be worth replacing =
the sump oil and a light bore wall oiling before doing a few turns by hand =
without the pug in. =A0But by now, I would think damage has been done if th=
ere is going to be any.=0A=0AGuy R Day=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________=
__________=0A From: Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <[email-masked]>=
=0ATo: =0ACc: Spridget list <[email-masked]> =0ASent: Monday, 26 =
January 2015, 23:16=0ASubject: Re: [Spridgets] Not LBC Generator flooded id=
eas?=0A =0A=0A=0ALin,=0AIf there is any of the old petrol left in the tank =
drain it and replace with fresh!=A0 Modern fuels will absorb water and beco=
me quite unusable.=A0 =0AI also recommend that you switch to an alternator.=
....=0AHal=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridg=
ets <[email-masked]> wrote:=0A=0ALinda,=0A>=0A>=0A>Use your compr=
essor to dry the plug.=A0 Pull the starter rope a half dozen times with the=
 plug removed.=A0 Then reinstall the plug and try to start it again.=A0 You=
 sure you have fresh gas in the tank?=0A>=0A>=0A>Rick=0A>=0A>Sent from my k=
eyboard=0A>=0A>On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets =
<[email-masked]> wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>List,It appears I left the fue=
l valve on over the summer which is why I can't get my generator started. I=
 pulled the plug and need to know a tip to dry the plug and get this baby s=
tarted. It is new and only used an hr durning Super Storm Sandy. I have a c=
an of electrical cleaner, starting fluid and canned air but I would have to=
 dig around for much else or go to the store if they are still open. Only g=
ot 2 hrs of sleep last night and can't think of a thing other than dry the =
plug and let it sit.=A0=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Manual if that helps.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>h=
ttp://www.ujr.ca/EN/PDF_Support_Files/king_canada_tools/manuals/powerforce/=
KCG-5625G_manual-eng.pdf=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Thanks in advance.=0A>>=0A>>=0A=
>>Lin=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>PS Power was out Saturday and seems I'm in an=
 area that gets hit 4x a year with power outs. Expecting 2' or more snow by=
 tonight.=A0=0A>------------------------=0A>>=0A>>[email-masked]=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ar=
ial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>We used to put the pl=
ug in an oven (I used the grill at home, it was quicker heating up than the=
 oven was) or heat the metal up with a gas torch&nbsp;</span><span style=3D=
"font-size: 13.3333330154419px;">before refitting it if it was too wet.</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">&nbsp; Hold the 'wire' end with a pair =
of grips at the correct angle to put it back in the head as you play a flam=
e on the working end, or if you have an all metal socket type plug spanner =
use that, it makes life a lot easier.&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"color=
: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333330154419px; font-family: arial, helvetic=
a, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">The advi=
se about the oil getting thinned out and the bore walls being washed of lub=
rication could be very valid if you feel a lot of fuel has passed through.
 &nbsp;Could be worth replacing the sump oil and a light bore wall oiling b=
efore doing a few turns by hand without the pug in. &nbsp;But by now, I wou=
ld think damage has been done if there is going to be any.</div><div style=
=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333330154419px; font-family: arial,=
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', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <fon=
t size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</sp=
an></b> Hal Faulkner via Spridgets &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b>=
<span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>  <br><b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Spridget list &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 26=
 January 2015, 23:16<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</sp=
an></b> Re: [Spridgets] Not LBC Generator flooded ideas?<br> </font> </div>=
 <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv1988476591"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If there is any of the old petrol left in =
the tank drain it and replace with fresh!&nbsp; Modern fuels will absorb wa=
ter and become quite unusable.&nbsp; <br></div>I also recommend that you sw=
itch to an
 alternator.....<br></div>Hal<br></div><div class=3D"yiv1988476591gmail_ext=
ra"><br><div class=3D"yiv1988476591gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:5=
0 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:s=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"yiv1988476591gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div>Linda,</div><div><br=
></div><div>Use your compressor to dry the plug.&nbsp; Pull the starter rop=
e a half dozen times with the plug removed.&nbsp; Then reinstall the plug a=
nd try to start it again.&nbsp; You sure you have fresh gas in the tank?</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Rick<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv1988476591h5"><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Linda Grunthan=
er via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.=
team.net"
 target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spridgets@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div>List,</div>It appears I left the fuel valve on over the sum=
mer which is why I can't get my generator started. I pulled the plug and ne=
ed to know a tip to dry the plug and get this baby started. It is new and o=
nly used an hr durning Super Storm Sandy. I have a can of electrical cleane=
r, starting fluid and canned air but I would have to dig around for much el=
se or go to the store if they are still open. Only got 2 hrs of sleep last =
night and can't think of a thing other than dry the plug and let it sit.&nb=
sp;<div><br></div><div>Manual if that helps.</div><div><br></div><div><a re=
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I vote with Hal.  You can't leave new gas in the tank for long before it
goes bad.  Friend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in for
repair.  The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh.  Everything was
fine.  Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing bad
gasoline.  I'd try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I added
> 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs with
> year old gas.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I vote with Hal.=C2=A0 You can&#39;t leave new gas in the =
tank for long before it goes bad.=C2=A0 Friend had a similar problem with a=
 chain saw and took it in for repair.=C2=A0 The old gas was drained and rep=
laced with fresh.=C2=A0 Everything was fine.=C2=A0 Small engine guy told hi=
m most of his repairs now were fixing bad gasoline.=C2=A0 I&#39;d try drain=
ing all the old stuff, not just some of it.<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner=
 via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I would hate to drain 6 gall=
ons of gas it would take a long time. I added 2 gallons to the 4 that I sta=
rted with. My little Sprite always runs with year old gas.<div>I really wis=
h I got a genny with elect start.=C2=A0</div><div>Off I go.</div></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 =
at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank=
 drain it and replace with fresh!=C2=A0 Modern fuels will absorb water and =
become quite unusable.=C2=A0 <br></div>I also recommend that you switch to =
an alternator.....<br></div>Hal<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
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She runs.....Yippi.
I got spark with both plugs and it didn't start then I sprayed Starting
fluid and didn't start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and it
must have reached it and she fired right up.
Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great guys that got me
there as always I love you guys!
Stay safe and warm.
Linda

>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/[email-masked]

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<div dir=3D"ltr">She runs.....Yippi.<div>I got spark with both plugs and it=
 didn&#39;t start then I sprayed Starting fluid and didn&#39;t start, then =
I put the spray hose way into the carb and it must have reached it and she =
fired right up.</div><div>Thank you all for your help. It&#39;s this list w=
ith great guys that got me there as always I love you guys!</div><div>Stay =
safe and warm.</div><div>Linda</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">he=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">I vote with Hal.=C2=A0 You can&#39;t leave new gas in the t=
ank for long before it goes bad.=C2=A0 Friend had a similar problem with a =
chain saw and took it in for repair.=C2=A0 The old gas was drained and repl=
aced with fresh.=C2=A0 Everything was fine.=C2=A0 Small engine guy told him=
 most of his repairs now were fixing bad gasoline.=C2=A0 I&#39;d try draini=
ng all the old stuff, not just some of it.<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, =
Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spri=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr">I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long tim=
e. I added 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always =
runs with year old gas.<div>I really wish I got a genny with elect start.=
=C2=A0</div><div>Off I go.</div></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 P=
M, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sprid=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If there is any of the old petrol l=
eft in the tank drain it and replace with fresh!=C2=A0 Modern fuels will ab=
sorb water and become quite unusable.=C2=A0 <br></div>I also recommend that=
 you switch to an alternator.....<br></div>Hal<br></div></span><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
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Woohoo!  Glad you got it going.  Hope the storm leaves you alone and you don=
't need it.  :-)

Sent from my keyboard

> On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> She runs.....Yippi.
> I got spark with both plugs and it didn't start then I sprayed Starting fl=
uid and didn't start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and it mus=
t have reached it and she fired right up.
> Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great guys that got me th=
ere as always I love you guys!
>> I vote with Hal.  You can't leave new gas in the tank for long before it g=
oes bad.  Friend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in for r=
epair.  The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh.  Everything was fin=
e.  Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing bad gasoli=
ne.  I'd try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.
>>=20
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridge=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>>> I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I adde=
d 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs with y=
ear old gas.
>>> I really wish I got a genny with elect start.=20
>>> Off I go.
>>>=20
>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <spridgets@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> Lin,
>>>> If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and replace=
 with fresh!  Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite unusable. =20
>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/gru=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Woohoo! &nbsp;Glad you got it going. &=
nbsp;Hope the storm leaves you alone and you don't need it. &nbsp;:-)<br><br=
>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grun=
thaner via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">spridge=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">She runs.....Yippi.<div>I got spark with both plugs and it=
 didn't start then I sprayed Starting fluid and didn't start, then I put the=
 spray hose way into the carb and it must have reached it and she fired righ=
t up.</div><div>Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great guys t=
hat got me there as always I love you guys!</div><div>Stay safe and warm.</d=
iv><div>Linda</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I vote w=
ith Hal.&nbsp; You can't leave new gas in the tank for long before it goes b=
ad.&nbsp; Friend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in for r=
epair.&nbsp; The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh.&nbsp; Everythi=
ng was fine.&nbsp; Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fi=
xing bad gasoline.&nbsp; I'd try draining all the old stuff, not just some o=
f it.<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D=
"">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">s=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><span class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr">I would hate to drain 6 gallons o=
f gas it would take a long time. I added 2 gallons to the 4 that I started w=
ith. My little Sprite always runs with year old gas.<div>I really wish I got=
 a genny with elect start.&nbsp;</div><div>Off I go.</div></div></span><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Mon,=
 Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span=
 class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If there is any of=
 the old petrol left in the tank drain it and replace with fresh!&nbsp; Mode=
rn fuels will absorb water and become quite unusable.&nbsp; <br></div>I also=
 recommend that you switch to an alternator.....<br></div>Hal<br></div></spa=
n><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D=
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From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
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Spridget Professors,
Thanks so much again for all the help, you guys are so important to me. I
remember telling Frank when we went to pick up my Bugeye only a year or two
before he left us that besides being sad that my father passed away I was
technically lost not knowing where to get good answers to my technical
questions. But you guys on this list and Frank's genius put my mind at
ease. With threads like these I feel like I just walked out of a classroom
with brilliant instructors that made the class the best class ever.

Snow was 12"-18" and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready for
both myself and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or family
with there pets that will come over if needed. I tried to post my youtube
of the genny running but forgot my youtube password. I'll try again after I
shovel the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later in the
week.

Special thanks to:

Rick
Kevin
Trevor
Guy
Hal
Peter
John
Billy

Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Professors,
Linda : )

PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ever I finally end up using
starting fluid most engines fire right up and can I use it in a 2 stroke
engine carburetor being they use oil and gas mixture. My weed wacker and my
chain saw kill me arm trying to get them started after sitting a week or
two.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Woohoo!  Glad you got it going.  Hope the storm leaves you alone and you
> don't need it.  :-)
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
>>> I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I
>>> added 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs
>>> with year old gas.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Spridget Professors,</div>Thanks so much again for al=
l the help, you guys are so important to me. I remember telling Frank when =
we went to pick up my Bugeye only a year or two before he left us that besi=
des being sad that my father passed away I was technically lost not knowing=
 where to get good answers to my technical questions. But you guys on this =
list and Frank&#39;s genius put my mind at ease. With threads like these I =
feel like I just walked out of a classroom with brilliant instructors that =
made the class the best class ever.<div><br></div><div>Snow was 12&quot;-18=
&quot; and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready for both myse=
lf and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or family with ther=
e pets that will come over if needed. I tried to post my youtube of the gen=
ny running but forgot my youtube password. I&#39;ll try again after I shove=
l the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later in the week.=
=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Special thanks to:</div><div><br></div><div=
>Rick</div><div>Kevin</div><div>Trevor=C2=A0</div><div>Guy</div><div>Hal=C2=
=A0</div><div>Peter=C2=A0</div><div>John=C2=A0</div><div>Billy</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Professors,</div><div>Linda :=
 )</div><div><br></div><div>PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ev=
er I finally end up using starting fluid most engines fire right up and can=
 I use it in a 2 stroke engine carburetor being they use oil and gas mixtur=
e. My weed wacker and my chain saw kill me arm trying to get them started a=
fter sitting a week or two.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">refi=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><div>Woohoo!=C2=A0 Glad you got it going.=C2=A0 Hope the st=
orm leaves you alone and you don&#39;t need it. =C2=A0:-)<br><br>Sent from =
my keyboard</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 P=
M, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></d=
iv><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">She runs.....Yippi.<div>=
I got spark with both plugs and it didn&#39;t start then I sprayed Starting=
 fluid and didn&#39;t start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb an=
d it must have reached it and she fired right up.</div><div>Thank you all f=
or your help. It&#39;s this list with great guys that got me there as alway=
s I love you guys!</div><div>Stay safe and warm.</div><div>Linda</div></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, =
2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyr=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I vote with Hal.=C2=A0 Yo=
u can&#39;t leave new gas in the tank for long before it goes bad.=C2=A0 Fr=
iend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in for repair.=C2=
=A0 The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh.=C2=A0 Everything was f=
ine.=C2=A0 Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing ba=
d gasoline.=C2=A0 I&#39;d try draining all the old stuff, not just some of =
it.<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, =
Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x"><span><div dir=3D"ltr">I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would t=
ake a long time. I added 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little =
Sprite always runs with year old gas.<div>I really wish I got a genny with =
elect start.=C2=A0</div><div>Off I go.</div></div></span><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 =
PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spri=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If there is any of the old petrol left in the=
 tank drain it and replace with fresh!=C2=A0 Modern fuels will absorb water=
 and become quite unusable.=C2=A0 <br></div>I also recommend that you switc=
h to an alternator.....<br></div>Hal<br></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_ex=
tra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"=
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:57:28 -0500

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Most starting fluid is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline.  T=
hat's why a balky engine will fire up on the stuff.  It does work in two-str=
oke engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can get away=
 with.  Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are lubed by the f=
uel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.

Sent from my keyboard

> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
> Spridget Professors,
> Thanks so much again for all the help, you guys are so important to me. I r=
emember telling Frank when we went to pick up my Bugeye only a year or two b=
efore he left us that besides being sad that my father passed away I was tec=
hnically lost not knowing where to get good answers to my technical question=
s. But you guys on this list and Frank's genius put my mind at ease. With th=
reads like these I feel like I just walked out of a classroom with brilliant=
 instructors that made the class the best class ever.
>=20
> Snow was 12"-18" and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready fo=
r both myself and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or family=
 with there pets that will come over if needed. I tried to post my youtube o=
f the genny running but forgot my youtube password. I'll try again after I s=
hovel the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later in the wee=
k.=20
> Trevor=20
> Hal=20
> Peter=20
> John=20
> PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ever I finally end up using s=
tarting fluid most engines fire right up and can I use it in a 2 stroke engi=
ne carburetor being they use oil and gas mixture. My weed wacker and my chai=
n saw kill me arm trying to get them started after sitting a week or two.
>=20
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>> Woohoo!  Glad you got it going.  Hope the storm leaves you alone and you d=
on't need it.  :-)
>>=20
>> Sent from my keyboard
>>=20
>>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridgets@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> She runs.....Yippi.
>>> I got spark with both plugs and it didn't start then I sprayed Starting f=
luid and didn't start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and it mu=
st have reached it and she fired right up.
>>> Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great guys that got me t=
here as always I love you guys!
>>> Stay safe and warm.
>>> Linda
>>>=20
>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>>>> I vote with Hal.  You can't leave new gas in the tank for long before i=
t goes bad.  Friend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in fo=
r repair.  The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh.  Everything was f=
ine.  Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing bad gaso=
line.  I'd try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <sprid=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>> I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I ad=
ded 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs wit=
h year old gas.
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <spridget=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>>> Lin,
>>>>>> If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and repla=
ce with fresh!  Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite unusable. =20=

>>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/g=
[email-masked]
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refi=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Most starting fluid is ether, which is=
 a LOT more volatile than gasoline. &nbsp;That's why a balky engine will fir=
e up on the stuff. &nbsp;It does work in two-stroke engines, but in any engi=
ne only use the smallest amount you can get away with. &nbsp;Be especially c=
areful with the two-strokes as they are lubed by the fuel-oil mixture and st=
arting fluid washes the oil away.<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br=
>On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gruntha=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Spridget Professors,</div>Thanks so m=
uch again for all the help, you guys are so important to me. I remember tell=
ing Frank when we went to pick up my Bugeye only a year or two before he lef=
t us that besides being sad that my father passed away I was technically los=
t not knowing where to get good answers to my technical questions. But you g=
uys on this list and Frank's genius put my mind at ease. With threads like t=
hese I feel like I just walked out of a classroom with brilliant instructors=
 that made the class the best class ever.<div><br></div><div>Snow was 12"-18=
" and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready for both myself and=
 my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or family with there pets t=
hat will come over if needed. I tried to post my youtube of the genny runnin=
g but forgot my youtube password. I'll try again after I shovel the snow as i=
t will freeze tonight and some more snow later in the week.&nbsp;</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Special thanks to:</div><div><br></div><div>Rick</div><div>Ke=
vin</div><div>Trevor&nbsp;</div><div>Guy</div><div>Hal&nbsp;</div><div>Peter=
&nbsp;</div><div>John&nbsp;</div><div>Billy</div><div><br></div><div>Happy S=
pridgeting, and thank you Professors,</div><div>Linda : )</div><div><br></di=
v><div>PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ever I finally end up us=
ing starting fluid most engines fire right up and can I use it in a 2 stroke=
 engine carburetor being they use oil and gas mixture. My weed wacker and my=
 chain saw kill me arm trying to get them started after sitting a week or tw=
o.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On M=
on, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Woohoo!&n=
bsp; Glad you got it going.&nbsp; Hope the storm leaves you alone and you do=
n't need it. &nbsp;:-)<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><div class=3D"=
h5"><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">She runs.....Yippi.<div>I got spark with both plugs and it didn't=
 start then I sprayed Starting fluid and didn't start, then I put the spray h=
ose way into the carb and it must have reached it and she fired right up.</d=
iv><div>Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great guys that got=
 me there as always I love you guys!</div><div>Stay safe and warm.</div><div=
>Linda</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I vote with H=
al.&nbsp; You can't leave new gas in the tank for long before it goes bad.&n=
bsp; Friend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in for repair=
.&nbsp; The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh.&nbsp; Everything wa=
s fine.&nbsp; Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing b=
ad gasoline.&nbsp; I'd try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.<=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 2=
6, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><=
div dir=3D"ltr">I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long t=
ime. I added 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always=
 runs with year old gas.<div>I really wish I got a genny with elect start.&n=
bsp;</div><div>Off I go.</div></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner=
 via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></s=
pan><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,=
<br></div>If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and re=
place with fresh!&nbsp; Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite unus=
able.&nbsp; <br></div>I also recommend that you switch to an alternator.....=
<br></div>Hal<br></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div><div><br><br></=
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ions/spridgets/[email-masked]</a><br>
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From: Cebridge via Spridgets <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:43:33 -0600

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Ether ( starting fluid) should not even be in a car persons vocabulary!! Hav=
e seen soooo many motors turned into junk because of it.  Ever seen the head=
 studs ripped out of the block of a diesel engine or a rod snapped in half !=
!=20
Ill always opt for gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it.  Just my mil=
eage lol

Leo

> On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:
>=20
> Most starting fluid is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline. =
 That's why a balky engine will fire up on the stuff.  It does work in two-s=
troke engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can get aw=
ay with.  Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are lubed by th=
e fuel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.
>=20
> Sent from my keyboard
>=20
>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>>=20
>> Spridget Professors,
>> Thanks so much again for all the help, you guys are so important to me. I=
 remember telling Frank when we went to pick up my Bugeye only a year or two=
 before he left us that besides being sad that my father passed away I was t=
echnically lost not knowing where to get good answers to my technical questi=
ons. But you guys on this list and Frank's genius put my mind at ease. With t=
hreads like these I feel like I just walked out of a classroom with brillian=
t instructors that made the class the best class ever.
>>=20
>> Snow was 12"-18" and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready f=
or both myself and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or famil=
y with there pets that will come over if needed. I tried to post my youtube o=
f the genny running but forgot my youtube password. I'll try again after I s=
hovel the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later in the wee=
k.=20
>>=20
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>>> Woohoo!  Glad you got it going.  Hope the storm leaves you alone and you=
 don't need it.  :-)
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my keyboard
>>>=20
>>>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridgets@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> She runs.....Yippi.
>>>> I got spark with both plugs and it didn't start then I sprayed Starting=
 fluid and didn't start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and it m=
ust have reached it and she fired right up.
>>>> Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great guys that got me=
>>>> Stay safe and warm.
>>>> Linda
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <[email-masked]> wrot=
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spri=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>>> I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I a=
dded 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs wi=
th year old gas.
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <spridge=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Lin,
>>>>>>> If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and repl=
ace with fresh!  Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite unusable. =20=

>>>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/=
[email-masked]
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[email-masked]
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Ether ( starting fluid) should not eve=
n be in a car persons vocabulary!! Have seen soooo many motors turned into j=
unk because of it. &nbsp;Ever seen the head studs ripped out of the block of=
 a diesel engine or a rod snapped in half !!&nbsp;</div><div>Ill always opt f=
or gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it. &nbsp;Just my mileage lol</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Leo<br><br></div><div><br>On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 A=
M, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">s=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf=
-8"><div>Most starting fluid is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gas=
oline. &nbsp;That's why a balky engine will fire up on the stuff. &nbsp;It d=
oes work in two-stroke engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amou=
nt you can get away with. &nbsp;Be especially careful with the two-strokes a=
s they are lubed by the fuel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil a=
way.<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM,=
 Linda Grunthaner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">grunthaner@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div>Spridget Professors,</div>Thanks so much again for all the help, y=
ou guys are so important to me. I remember telling Frank when we went to pic=
k up my Bugeye only a year or two before he left us that besides being sad t=
hat my father passed away I was technically lost not knowing where to get go=
od answers to my technical questions. But you guys on this list and Frank's g=
enius put my mind at ease. With threads like these I feel like I just walked=
 out of a classroom with brilliant instructors that made the class the best c=
lass ever.<div><br></div><div>Snow was 12"-18" and no need for the genny but=
 so happy I have it ready for both myself and my neighbor and her 2 small bo=
ys and any friends or family with there pets that will come over if needed. I=
 tried to post my youtube of the genny running but forgot my youtube passwor=
d. I'll try again after I shovel the snow as it will freeze tonight and some=
 more snow later in the week.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Special thanks t=
o:</div><div><br></div><div>Rick</div><div>Kevin</div><div>Trevor&nbsp;</div=
><div>Guy</div><div>Hal&nbsp;</div><div>Peter&nbsp;</div><div>John&nbsp;</di=
v><div>Billy</div><div><br></div><div>Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Profe=
ssors,</div><div>Linda : )</div><div><br></div><div>PS If anyone can tell me=
 why is it that when ever I finally end up using starting fluid most engines=
 fire right up and can I use it in a 2 stroke engine carburetor being they u=
se oil and gas mixture. My weed wacker and my chain saw kill me arm trying t=
o get them started after sitting a week or two.</div></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, R=
ick Fisk <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Woohoo!&nbsp; Glad you got it going.&nbs=
p; Hope the storm leaves you alone and you don't need it. &nbsp;:-)<br><br>S=
ent from my keyboard</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, a=
t 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">She runs.....Yippi.=
<div>I got spark with both plugs and it didn't start then I sprayed Starting=
 fluid and didn't start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and it m=
ust have reached it and she fired right up.</div><div>Thank you all for your=
 help. It's this list with great guys that got me there as always I love you=
 guys!</div><div>Stay safe and warm.</div><div>Linda</div></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM=
, HealeyRick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I vote with Hal.&nbsp; You can't leave new g=
as in the tank for long before it goes bad.&nbsp; Friend had a similar probl=
em with a chain saw and took it in for repair.&nbsp; The old gas was drained=
 and replaced with fresh.&nbsp; Everything was fine.&nbsp; Small engine guy t=
old him most of his repairs now were fixing bad gasoline.&nbsp; I'd try drai=
ning all the old stuff, not just some of it.<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunt=
haner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><div dir=3D"ltr">I would hate t=
o drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I added 2 gallons to the=
 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs with year old gas.<div>=
I really wish I got a genny with elect start.&nbsp;</div><div>Off I go.</div=
></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><spa=
n>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">spridg=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><span><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If there is any of t=
he old petrol left in the tank drain it and replace with fresh!&nbsp; Modern=
 fuels will absorb water and become quite unusable.&nbsp; <br></div>I also r=
ecommend that you switch to an alternator.....<br></div>Hal<br></div></span>=
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OK for the 2 stroke engines I'm going to first purchase the electric
adapter to the weedwacker which should help my arm (should have just bought
the elect weed wacker to begin with). Then I'll try 4d40 as mentioned after
the 20th pull on the chain saw if that doesn't work I'm going to kill the
rubber parts with ether. I love how the ether (starting fluid) works but I
totally understand how it would dry out the diaphragms I now know why my 10
yr old lawn mower diaphragm dried out but I have no problem starting it
with the new air filter off and push the gas prime bubble a lot more then
4x and she starts. I think I need to understand small engines a bit more to
properly care for them because they shouldn't require 20 or more pulls to
start do they? Both the weedwacker and chainsaw were new when I purchased
them and both a PITA to start. As I recall they get more difficult to start
between use such as weeks, maybe I need to contact the manufacturer to
properly store them but I do recall multiple posts regarding the fail to
start on the saw and it's American which doesn't mean made in America.

Looking at the genny instructions I pull the choke leaver out then pull I
tried that yesterday and 5 pulls no start then again ether and starts. I'm
disgusted that I have to do that each time.
Lin

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Cebridge <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Ether ( starting fluid) should not even be in a car persons vocabulary!!
> Have seen soooo many motors turned into junk because of it.  Ever seen the
> head studs ripped out of the block of a diesel engine or a rod snapped in
> half !!
> Ill always opt for gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it.  Just my
> mileage lol
>
> Leo
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
> Most starting fluid is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline.
> That's why a balky engine will fire up on the stuff.  It does work in
> two-stroke engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can
> get away with.  Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are
> lubed by the fuel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> Spridget Professors,
> Snow was 12"-18" and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready
> for both myself and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or
> family with there pets that will come over if needed. I tried to post my
> youtube of the genny running but forgot my youtube password. I'll try again
> after I shovel the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later
> in the week.
>
> Special thanks to:
>
> Rick
> Kevin
> Trevor
> Guy
> Hal
> Peter
> John
> Billy
>
>>>>> If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and
>>>>> replace with fresh!  Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite
>>>>> unusable.
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/[email-masked]
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">OK for the 2 stroke engines I&#39;m going to first purchas=
e the electric adapter to the weedwacker which should help my arm (should h=
ave just bought the elect weed wacker to begin with). Then I&#39;ll try 4d4=
0 as mentioned after the 20th pull on the chain saw if that doesn&#39;t wor=
k I&#39;m going to kill the rubber parts with ether. I love how the ether (=
starting fluid) works but I totally understand how it would dry out the dia=
phragms I now know why my 10 yr old lawn mower diaphragm dried out but I ha=
ve no problem starting it with the new air filter off and push the gas prim=
e bubble a lot more then 4x and she starts. I think I need to understand sm=
all engines a bit more to properly care for them because they shouldn&#39;t=
 require 20 or more pulls to start do they? Both the weedwacker and chainsa=
w were new when I purchased them and both a PITA to start. As I recall they=
 get more difficult to start between use such as weeks, maybe I need to con=
tact the manufacturer to properly store them but I do recall multiple posts=
 regarding the fail to start on the saw and it&#39;s American which doesn&#=
39;t mean made in America.<div><br></div><div>Looking at the genny instruct=
ions I pull the choke leaver out then pull I tried that yesterday and 5 pul=
ls no start then again ether and starts. I&#39;m disgusted that I have to d=
o that each time.</div><div>Lin=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Cebridge =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Ether ( starting fluid) should not even be =
in a car persons vocabulary!! Have seen soooo many motors turned into junk =
because of it.=C2=A0 Ever seen the head studs ripped out of the block of a =
diesel engine or a rod snapped in half !!=C2=A0</div><div>Ill always opt fo=
r gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it.=C2=A0 Just my mileage lol</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Leo<br><br></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On =
Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sp=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>Most starting fluid=
 is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline.=C2=A0 That&#39;s why=
 a balky engine will fire up on the stuff.=C2=A0 It does work in two-stroke=
 engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can get away w=
ith.=C2=A0 Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are lubed by =
the fuel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.<br><br>Sent fr=
om my keyboard</div><div><br>On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">grunthaner@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>Spridget Professors,</div>Thanks so much again for all the he=
lp, you guys are so important to me. I remember telling Frank when we went =
to pick up my Bugeye only a year or two before he left us that besides bein=
g sad that my father passed away I was technically lost not knowing where t=
o get good answers to my technical questions. But you guys on this list and=
 Frank&#39;s genius put my mind at ease. With threads like these I feel lik=
e I just walked out of a classroom with brilliant instructors that made the=
 class the best class ever.<div><br></div><div>Snow was 12&quot;-18&quot; a=
nd no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready for both myself and m=
y neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or family with there pets t=
hat will come over if needed. I tried to post my youtube of the genny runni=
ng but forgot my youtube password. I&#39;ll try again after I shovel the sn=
ow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later in the week.=C2=A0</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Special thanks to:</div><div><br></div><div>Rick</di=
v><div>Kevin</div><div>Trevor=C2=A0</div><div>Guy</div><div>Hal=C2=A0</div>=
<div>Peter=C2=A0</div><div>John=C2=A0</div><div>Billy</div><div><br></div><=
div>Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Professors,</div><div>Linda : )</div><=
div><br></div><div>PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ever I fina=
lly end up using starting fluid most engines fire right up and can I use it=
 in a 2 stroke engine carburetor being they use oil and gas mixture. My wee=
d wacker and my chain saw kill me arm trying to get them started after sitt=
ing a week or two.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">refisk@charte=
rmi.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"auto"><div>Woohoo!=C2=A0 Glad you got it going.=C2=A0 Hope the storm leave=
s you alone and you don&#39;t need it. =C2=A0:-)<br><br>Sent from my keyboa=
rd</div><div><div><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner vi=
a Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">She runs.....Yippi.<div>I got spark with both =
plugs and it didn&#39;t start then I sprayed Starting fluid and didn&#39;t =
start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and it must have reached=
 it and she fired right up.</div><div>Thank you all for your help. It&#39;s=
 this list with great guys that got me there as always I love you guys!</di=
v><div>Stay safe and warm.</div><div>Linda</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Heale=
yRick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I vote with Hal.=C2=A0 You can&#39;t leave n=
ew gas in the tank for long before it goes bad.=C2=A0 Friend had a similar =
problem with a chain saw and took it in for repair.=C2=A0 The old gas was d=
rained and replaced with fresh.=C2=A0 Everything was fine.=C2=A0 Small engi=
ne guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing bad gasoline.=C2=A0 I&#=
39;d try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.<div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 =
PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><div dir=3D"=
ltr">I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I ad=
ded 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs wi=
th year old gas.<div>I really wish I got a genny with elect start.=C2=A0</d=
iv><div>Off I go.</div></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via =
Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,<=
br></div>If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and re=
place with fresh!=C2=A0 Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite unu=
sable.=C2=A0 <br></div>I also recommend that you switch to an alternator...=
..<br></div>Hal<br></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gm=
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My lawn mower guy once showed me a jar of "sand" that additives in modern gas leave in the carb when it dries out.  If, after cleaning the cylinder, you are still having trouble, clean the carb.

My RV generator must be "exercised" once a month for 20 minutes to dry the coils and run old gas out.  Otherwise, starting is really hard, as I have learned.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>My RV generator must be "exercised" once a month =
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Two points to ponder... The first is ether in a diesel. Back in the day I
worked for Avis Truck Division and we leased/rented trucks. We used to get
semis back with blown engines. The drivers would use the onboard cold
weather starting system (ether injection) to boost power when going up
long, steep hills. It is kind of like using NOX for a second too long!
Bang, you broke it...

The second is using ether to start a 2 stroke motor. Bad choice because it
washes the oil off the cylinders and can make it possible for scoring to
occur. The rings dig into the cylinder wall and leave a groove (scored)
whereby the compression leaks out into the crankcase.

Today's pump gas degrades much faster than ever before. If you can find gas
with no ethanol, use that in your small engines and you will not experience
so many starting/running issues.

My 02,

Kent

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Cebridge via Spridgets <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/[email-masked]
>
>

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1983 Garage full of spridget parts!
2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!!

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Two points to ponder... The first is ether in a diese=
l.=C2=A0Back in the day I worked for Avis Truck Division and we leased/rent=
ed trucks. We used to get semis back with blown engines. The drivers would =
use the onboard=C2=A0cold weather starting system=C2=A0(ether injection) to=
 boost power when going up long, steep hills. It is kind of like using NOX =
for a second too long! Bang, you broke it...</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>The=
 second is using ether to start a 2 stroke motor. Bad choice because it was=
hes the oil off the cylinders and can make it possible for scoring to occur=
. The rings dig into the cylinder wall and leave a groove (scored) whereby =
the compression leaks out into the crankcase.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>To=
day&#39;s pump gas degrades much faster than ever before. If you can find g=
as with no ethanol, use that in your small engines and you will not experie=
nce so many starting/running issues.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>My 02,</div=
><div>=C2=A0</div><div>Kent</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Cebridge via Spridge=
ts <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Ether ( starting fluid) should not=
 even be in a car persons vocabulary!! Have seen soooo many motors turned i=
nto junk because of it.=C2=A0 Ever seen the head studs ripped out of the bl=
ock of a diesel engine or a rod snapped in half !!=C2=A0</div><div>Ill alwa=
ys opt for gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it.=C2=A0 Just my milea=
ge lol</div><div><br></div><div>Leo<br><br></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><di=
v><br>On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>Most start=
ing fluid is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline.=C2=A0 That&=
#39;s why a balky engine will fire up on the stuff.=C2=A0 It does work in t=
wo-stroke engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can g=
et away with.=C2=A0 Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are =
lubed by the fuel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.<br><b=
r>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Gr=
unthaner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">grun=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Spridget Professors,</div>Thanks so much again for a=
ll the help, you guys are so important to me. I remember telling Frank when=
 we went to pick up my Bugeye only a year or two before he left us that bes=
ides being sad that my father passed away I was technically lost not knowin=
g where to get good answers to my technical questions. But you guys on this=
 list and Frank&#39;s genius put my mind at ease. With threads like these I=
 feel like I just walked out of a classroom with brilliant instructors that=
 made the class the best class ever.<div><br></div><div>Snow was 12&quot;-1=
8&quot; and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready for both mys=
elf and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or family with the=
re pets that will come over if needed. I tried to post my youtube of the ge=
nny running but forgot my youtube password. I&#39;ll try again after I shov=
el the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later in the week.=
=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Special thanks to:</div><div><br></div><div=
=A0</div><div>Peter=C2=A0</div><div>John=C2=A0</div><div>Billy</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Professors,</div><div>Linda :=
 )</div><div><br></div><div>PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ev=
er I finally end up using starting fluid most engines fire right up and can=
 I use it in a 2 stroke engine carburetor being they use oil and gas mixtur=
e. My weed wacker and my chain saw kill me arm trying to get them started a=
fter sitting a week or two.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">refi=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(2=
04,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir=3D"auto=
"><div>Woohoo!=C2=A0 Glad you got it going.=C2=A0 Hope the storm leaves you=
 alone and you don&#39;t need it. =C2=A0:-)<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</d=
iv><div><div><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spr=
idgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">sp=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">She runs.....Yippi.<div>I got spark with both plugs=
 and it didn&#39;t start then I sprayed Starting fluid and didn&#39;t start=
, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and it must have reached it a=
nd she fired right up.</div><div>Thank you all for your help. It&#39;s this=
 list with great guys that got me there as always I love you guys!</div><di=
v>Stay safe and warm.</div><div>Linda</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-col=
or:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I vote with Hal.=C2=A0 You can&#39;t leave new gas in the tank for=
 long before it goes bad.=C2=A0 Friend had a similar problem with a chain s=
aw and took it in for repair.=C2=A0 The old gas was drained and replaced wi=
th fresh.=C2=A0 Everything was fine.=C2=A0 Small engine guy told him most o=
f his repairs now were fixing bad gasoline.=C2=A0 I&#39;d try draining all =
the old stuff, not just some of it.<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner v=
ia Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></s=
pan><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;pad=
ding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;bord=
er-left-style:solid"><span><div dir=3D"ltr">I would hate to drain 6 gallons=
 of gas it would take a long time. I added 2 gallons to the 4 that I starte=
d with. My little Sprite always runs with year old gas.<div>I really wish I=
 got a genny with elect start.=C2=A0</div><div>Off I go.</div></div></span>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan=
 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204=
,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><span><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If there is any of the old petrol left in=
 the tank drain it and replace with fresh!=C2=A0 Modern fuels will absorb w=
ater and become quite unusable.=C2=A0 <br></div>I also recommend that you s=
witch to an alternator.....<br></div>Hal<br></div></span><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204=
,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir=3D"auto"><div=
><div><br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></d=
iv></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span><span></sp=
an><br><br></span><br></div></blockquote></div><br>-</blockquote></div></di=
v><span>
ridge.net</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div><br>----------------------=
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I use 100 octane LL avgas in my small engines.  It's pricey compared to auto=
 gas, but works so much better it's worth the extra cost.  My 39 year old sn=
owblower thinks the stuff is wonderful.  :-)

Sent from my keyboard

> On Jan 28, 2015, at 12:59 PM, CosmicMag1380 via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> Two points to ponder... The first is ether in a diesel. Back in the day I w=
orked for Avis Truck Division and we leased/rented trucks. We used to get se=
mis back with blown engines. The drivers would use the onboard cold weather s=
tarting system (ether injection) to boost power when going up long, steep hi=
lls. It is kind of like using NOX for a second too long! Bang, you broke it.=
..
> =20
> The second is using ether to start a 2 stroke motor. Bad choice because it=
 washes the oil off the cylinders and can make it possible for scoring to oc=
cur. The rings dig into the cylinder wall and leave a groove (scored) whereb=
y the compression leaks out into the crankcase.
> =20
> Today's pump gas degrades much faster than ever before. If you can find ga=
s with no ethanol, use that in your small engines and you will not experienc=
e so many starting/running issues.
> =20
> My 02,
> =20
> Kent
>=20
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Cebridge via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
>> Ether ( starting fluid) should not even be in a car persons vocabulary!! H=
ave seen soooo many motors turned into junk because of it.  Ever seen the he=
ad studs ripped out of the block of a diesel engine or a rod snapped in half=
 !!=20
>> Ill always opt for gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it.  Just my m=
ileage lol
>>=20
>> Leo
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <[email-masked]=
eam.net> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Most starting fluid is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline=
.  That's why a balky engine will fire up on the stuff.  It does work in two=
-stroke engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can get a=
way with.  Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are lubed by t=
he fuel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my keyboard
>>>=20
>>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Spridget Professors,
>>>> Thanks so much again for all the help, you guys are so important to me.=
 I remember telling Frank when we went to pick up my Bugeye only a year or t=
wo before he left us that besides being sad that my father passed away I was=
 technically lost not knowing where to get good answers to my technical ques=
tions. But you guys on this list and Frank's genius put my mind at ease. Wit=
h threads like these I feel like I just walked out of a classroom with brill=
iant instructors that made the class the best class ever.
>>>>=20
>>>> Snow was 12"-18" and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready=
 for both myself and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or fam=
ily with there pets that will come over if needed. I tried to post my youtub=
e of the genny running but forgot my youtube password. I'll try again after I=
 shovel the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later in the w=
eek.=20
>>>> PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ever I finally end up usin=
g starting fluid most engines fire right up and can I use it in a 2 stroke e=
ngine carburetor being they use oil and gas mixture. My weed wacker and my c=
hain saw kill me arm trying to get them started after sitting a week or two.=

>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>>>>> Woohoo!  Glad you got it going.  Hope the storm leaves you alone and y=
ou don't need it.  :-)
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Sent from my keyboard
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridget=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> She runs.....Yippi.
>>>>>> I got spark with both plugs and it didn't start then I sprayed Starti=
ng fluid and didn't start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and i=
t must have reached it and she fired right up.
>>>>>> Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great guys that got m=
e there as always I love you guys!
>>>>>> Stay safe and warm.
>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
>>>>>>> I vote with Hal.  You can't leave new gas in the tank for long befor=
e it goes bad.  Friend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in=
 for repair.  The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh.  Everything w=
as fine.  Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing bad g=
asoline.  I'd try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <sp=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I=
 added 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs w=
ith year old gas.
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <sprid=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Lin,
>>>>>>>>> If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and re=
place with fresh!  Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite unusable.=
 =20
>>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridget=
s/[email-masked]
>>>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/r=
[email-masked]
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bu=
[email-masked]
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cosmi=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I use 100 octane LL avgas in my small e=
ngines. &nbsp;It's pricey compared to auto gas, but works so much better it'=
s worth the extra cost. &nbsp;My 39 year old snowblower thinks the stuff is w=
onderful. &nbsp;:-)<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Jan 28, 20=
15, at 12:59 PM, CosmicMag1380 via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets=
@autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Two points to ponder... The f=
irst is ether in a diesel.&nbsp;Back in the day I worked for Avis Truck Divi=
sion and we leased/rented trucks. We used to get semis back with blown engin=
es. The drivers would use the onboard&nbsp;cold weather starting system&nbsp=
;(ether injection) to boost power when going up long, steep hills. It is kin=
d of like using NOX for a second too long! Bang, you broke it...</div><div>&=
nbsp;</div><div>The second is using ether to start a 2 stroke motor. Bad cho=
ice because it washes the oil off the cylinders and can make it possible for=
 scoring to occur. The rings dig into the cylinder wall and leave a groove (=
scored) whereby the compression leaks out into the crankcase.</div><div>&nbs=
p;</div><div>Today's pump gas degrades much faster than ever before. If you c=
an find gas with no ethanol, use that in your small engines and you will not=
 experience so many starting/running issues.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>My 0=
2,</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Kent</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Cebridge via Sp=
ridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Ether ( starting fluid) should no=
t even be in a car persons vocabulary!! Have seen soooo many motors turned i=
nto junk because of it.&nbsp; Ever seen the head studs ripped out of the blo=
ck of a diesel engine or a rod snapped in half !!&nbsp;</div><div>Ill always=
 opt for gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it.&nbsp; Just my mileage l=
ol</div><div><br></div><div>Leo<br><br></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br=
>On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>Most starting flui=
d is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline.&nbsp; That's why a b=
alky engine will fire up on the stuff.&nbsp; It does work in two-stroke engi=
nes, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can get away with.&n=
bsp; Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are lubed by the fue=
l-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.<br><br>Sent from my ke=
yboard</div><div><br>On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv>Spridget Professors,</div>Thanks so much again for all the help, you guys=
 are so important to me. I remember telling Frank when we went to pick up my=
 Bugeye only a year or two before he left us that besides being sad that my f=
ather passed away I was technically lost not knowing where to get good answe=
rs to my technical questions. But you guys on this list and Frank's genius p=
ut my mind at ease. With threads like these I feel like I just walked out of=
 a classroom with brilliant instructors that made the class the best class e=
ver.<div><br></div><div>Snow was 12"-18" and no need for the genny but so ha=
ppy I have it ready for both myself and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and=
 any friends or family with there pets that will come over if needed. I trie=
d to post my youtube of the genny running but forgot my youtube password. I'=
ll try again after I shovel the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more=
 snow later in the week.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Special thanks to:</=
div><div><br></div><div>Rick</div><div>Kevin</div><div>Trevor&nbsp;</div><di=
v>Guy</div><div>Hal&nbsp;</div><div>Peter&nbsp;</div><div>John&nbsp;</div><d=
iv>Billy</div><div><br></div><div>Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Professor=
s,</div><div>Linda : )</div><div><br></div><div>PS If anyone can tell me why=
 is it that when ever I finally end up using starting fluid most engines fir=
e right up and can I use it in a 2 stroke engine carburetor being they use o=
il and gas mixture. My weed wacker and my chain saw kill me arm trying to ge=
t them started after sitting a week or two.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick =
Fisk <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><div>Woohoo!&nbsp; Glad you got it going.&nbsp; Hope the storm l=
eaves you alone and you don't need it. &nbsp;:-)<br><br>Sent from my keyboar=
d</div><div><div><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via S=
pridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">s=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">She runs.....Yippi.<div>I got spark with both plugs a=
nd it didn't start then I sprayed Starting fluid and didn't start, then I pu=
t the spray hose way into the carb and it must have reached it and she fired=
 right up.</div><div>Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great g=
uys that got me there as always I love you guys!</div><div>Stay safe and war=
m.</div><div>Linda</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);bord=
er-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir=3D"ltr">I vote with Hal.=
&nbsp; You can't leave new gas in the tank for long before it goes bad.&nbsp=
; Friend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in for repair.&n=
bsp; The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh.&nbsp; Everything was f=
ine.&nbsp; Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing bad=
 gasoline.&nbsp; I'd try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.<di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26,=
 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204=
,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><span><div dir=3D"ltr">=
I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I added 2 g=
allons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs with year o=
ld gas.<div>I really wish I got a genny with elect start.&nbsp;</div><div>Of=
f I go.</div></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote c=
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"><span><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If there is any of the=
 old petrol left in the tank drain it and replace with fresh!&nbsp; Modern f=
uels will absorb water and become quite unusable.&nbsp; <br></div>I also rec=
ommend that you switch to an alternator.....<br></div>Hal<br></div></span><d=
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