From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 3 22:47:15 2026 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68FCA03AA for ; Sun, 3 May 2026 22:45:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from CY3PR05CU001.outbound.protection.outlook.com (unknown [52.103.7.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A639A0CBC; Sun, 3 May 2026 13:00:07 -0600 (MDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector10001; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=aetjN0XK/S0azvLl+mYGqplkiz2x6MiTw2drULqdybRDGORgShNoiwsfWLB8IxsIDLX2O2QKrDuCvJg0ebORLt0eJBDe/VK1eOv1rI2QBvVYLLs4ZCw7Knowe19R40yfgWDYXoMTYOVCrkQlbDpkX58uDLGEwx23YYfL8ebZoXwxCJ0n2EnlgKVu7oAbBUS+lAdxuUwO/Cg71dEgh/wNXYZsL7du1oxzk5X9MujrjtDtqXVjkuJL9+clE6TKZIyZC6Bvl6an30IkR5SwJiZjTl+VGNdgEtq54yv2L2jMMDILGgdlFGidh0S4ThxC/XjhLk9t3Hh65iykk5r15yb51w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector10001; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1; bh=Uw43l9XuJ8pbui3+tBBiUNFj1PNlo5GEZ7kR1sy2Ux8=; b=YXra/dQhQxep1xxug1adbrV920pOIplaTnfw//w9lhBuk0xJ8L9dXpKY2TmbghuFJdOt0O+unveGBmaGPL36IbZXIdICfxgFYjyNdeod9G6K+NgjFzoXetYHmtKLU13Mfu1OYPEsKimmDCQEQEVAZpDLLK+Pz4EVXOr5002L1sNobGyzNFhy5WthyxtqA68yIKnclaGS7IG5Vj8chivN8TDPTU0L5H9AsNOBqkhUhkMGWkczOLUDSCoW9HlCLNNQG96Z79G3ftHFIie0Pt5M80Rf+9Dj+tgU07ELYNVsPc/4s7fGc7YcqP6eosPf2xV3zm5qWbUBZYJF4DMiVg1FkA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=none; dmarc=none; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=Uw43l9XuJ8pbui3+tBBiUNFj1PNlo5GEZ7kR1sy2Ux8=; b=ExN2R66uuxLF4VjppyU5mK/3B//CEV5cTclJYJzTQUFQFW2tGc9sG3/KnW4zYLjh5/9fYOQQVwdG4DlP7kjLn1UIT/+o/uTPFrmHoscE4ygLljI1UmEThoUtRlkeSTSHnkyCexzpxIZw+4wgB/BSBK6fLt5oDEjXCH1Y9VPkPXP48xsvHFpmI5JCRht0fC6P5vhOfrYc4wSaXCXmxaPr8sr/SmNYRaMMpPcFgy0cVTMmQu3cmrngF2FPydgiADQR6pJuDGVLKAxI/YDw37a56MRzSf6nAAgW612F3LvI4K67HIm8B0MRk/tW1bZAUvjBhe7DDyELnxIRf2GKnjVcAw== Received: from MN2PR14MB2862.namprd14.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:208:12c::25) by MN2PR14MB3277.namprd14.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:208:1b2::9) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.9870.25; Sun, 3 May 2026 18:59:45 +0000 Received: from MN2PR14MB2862.namprd14.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::e030:abc9:ad8e:fd81]) by MN2PR14MB2862.namprd14.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::e030:abc9:ad8e:fd81%6]) with mapi id 15.20.9870.023; Sun, 3 May 2026 18:59:44 +0000 From: "Tim ." 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It was a cancellation confirmation note f= rom the list serve. I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... Tim --_000_MN2PR14MB2862B3CC49AA04C8293FABC4B4302MN2PR14MB2862namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note f= rom the list serve. 

I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled.....

Tim
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Tim, it's showing up fine here. Came via the shop-talk= and Datsun Roadster lists.

RD

On Sun, May 3, 2026 at 9:45=E2=80=AFPM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> wrote:
I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note f= rom the list serve.=C2=A0

I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled.....

Tim
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--00000000000076f2f40650f50c54-- --===============8496557577381101091== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive --===============8496557577381101091==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 4 18:51:28 2026 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247A8A1427 for ; Mon, 4 May 2026 18:51:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (unknown [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88DBA0BEC for ; Mon, 4 May 2026 02:11:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [50.198.190.18] (bradakis [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69DA273B5C0 for ; Mon, 04 May 2026 02:11:09 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 02:11:09 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: Content-Language: en-US From: Mark Bradakis Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] testing testing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On 5/3/26 12:59 PM, Tim . wrote: > I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation > note from the list serve. > > I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... > > Tim No, you have not been unsubscribed. It happens from time to time, not very frequently, that random addresses will get that message sent to them. To be honest, I am not sure if the problem is with mailman doing it, or if random outside people get access to the unsubscribe links in the footer of messages, and send malicious email just for fun. It seems more likely that it is an artifact of the mailman system as currently installed, kept running by being pieced together with bubble gum and bailing wire, or more currently, nylon tie wraps. Nobody uses bailing wire anymore, though I do have maybe 60 - 70 feet of it on a stick out in the garage. So don't worry, nothing has happened to your subscription, you are still on whatever lists you subscribed to. mjb. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 4 19:31:55 2026 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586D6A147D for ; Mon, 4 May 2026 19:31:55 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: autox.team.net; Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from chumdrop.sackheads.org (unknown [159.203.76.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAE2A0C3C for ; Mon, 4 May 2026 06:46:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chumdrop.sackheads.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6771726AD88 for ; Mon, 4 May 2026 08:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chumdrop.sackheads.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chumdrop.sackheads.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id QtNgzqVytIBm for ; Mon, 4 May 2026 08:46:09 -0400 (EDT) s=2022-US; t=1777898769; bh=plL1fJibINqGCYLKj371N2fkehVP7gNQZpy8gPbHM8c=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=WNiHjpEqsqyoXRotJ391ZEiUui2hCbJd0SRpSqGwN2Mp+6lQQwgTz3qa/7LutJdGb wZEr7/0a8y43wnPW7oemXl+vZUhROozDBJxufSviUxU7sQ/o6c883HhqQmgpMLzhaA txHmxC8CFwZzuOmGbyjjamMVs/VxDO9o/ot0bdHvwWVkcHMokMsEWVW2ZMLy+Kk6/r dk3EqvHUKr+F1GwNC/4QIuDscZ9fKvBuaKQ8ted+rHJPRb+Dhz5p35tMA8365JaiTh vmanLrls9QWU2KNC12Oi2rgM9GJIY5dQx+5a/7G1jPz1dlIfGXbkJOFg3VgPBKB00E uySxcMgjXsH0Q== Received: from [10.0.1.4] (unknown [46.110.132.149]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jimmie@sackheads.org) by chumdrop.sackheads.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0CCAA26ACC2 for ; Mon, 4 May 2026 08:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 08:46:07 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: Content-Language: en-US From: Jimmie Mayfield Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] testing testing Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5395662733324743899== boundary="------------0RCJTvXX0qE6KcxxDMqM61Ao" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0RCJTvXX0qE6KcxxDMqM61Ao Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Looks like you're still live. I get a few fake cancellation confirmations per day.  My non-existent iCloud account gets cancelled at least twice a week. J On 5/3/26 14:59, Tim . wrote: > I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation > note from the list serve. > > I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... > > Tim > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mayfield+shoptalk@sackheads.org > --------------0RCJTvXX0qE6KcxxDMqM61Ao Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Looks like you're still live.

I get a few fake cancellation confirmations per day.  My non-existent iCloud account gets cancelled at least twice a week.

J



On 5/3/26 14:59, Tim . wrote:
I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note from the list serve. 

I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled.....

Tim

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Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2026 1:59 PM To: Shop Talk ; Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] testing testing I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note f= rom the list serve. I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... Tim --_000_MN2PR14MB2862BC908E39004E6488E2A6B4312MN2PR14MB2862namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks all
From: Datsun-roadsters <= datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Tim . <tims_dat= sun_stuff@outlook.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2026 1:59 PM
To: Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>; Datsun Roadster List= <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] testing testing
 
I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note f= rom the list serve. 

I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled.....

Tim
--_000_MN2PR14MB2862BC908E39004E6488E2A6B4312MN2PR14MB2862namp_-- --===============8799724524657634496== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive --===============8799724524657634496==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 5 03:16:28 2026 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [192.168.122.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD4EA11D7 for ; Tue, 5 May 2026 03:16:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-c2p-570110.sys.comcast.net (unknown [96.102.19.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E39A0F29 for ; Mon, 4 May 2026 07:17:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-c2p-555661.sys.comcast.net ([96.102.18.228]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resqmta-c2p-570110.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPS id JrqawKqt3fhb1JtArwAKuw; Mon, 04 May 2026 13:17:25 +0000 s=20190202a; t=1777900645; bh=PA1GbPVK4z5TUByjLeLe8FXW26BYQzygEqYKzLllsO8=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version: Subject:To:From:Xfinity-Spam-Result; b=5bp6xfZYXGCjxvKUcxU0cQFjm313sE+sNFpIR4oBVFfavrDPbiwg31kvqQQpi7m/f U9sPuYnUIZ0jgV0m9kWCERWDT99P4w8O1nnSyIzYDwMznfVmy4VU2fohXIlA6i5Ah4 NaGjsSEW6MGVfH6OuKiyrKRV9TSoWDW4qMhXDAIXvmbfrG68HqrgSdJPj3gnD9H/QR 591iehiW8RB3ybibrGO3/f32AvvjVl6bqSgz2PXeB8xZpsxfNFV7vFNn63FPw8Z1+y gvVwr7EqPXke4CjSrclj5NijFvbk0z/zWl7WPn0vbw3DtLV+cXhE358Unb+A7juVMP poSoVdSAYZW9A== Received: from [192.168.1.135] ([104.153.206.37]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resomta-c2p-555661.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPSA id JtAjwfEAiB9aNJtAkwzUCG; Mon, 04 May 2026 13:17:23 +0000 Xfinity-QID: JtAjwfEAiB9aNJtAkwzUCG Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 06:17:18 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: Content-Language: en-US From: Bob Spidell YqU2MRxuS7Ft4g1oglqJaerV1YYKZPZD9Uov/C0/1uvrJu052w4BBee+NfLzr9aAVUnxh/ciLKo61jVWRw4iiy6uCkNuO12N+RY= Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] testing testing Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3437525305797552411== boundary="------------0ntBCAdDM6djbP5GQhEr6Nun" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0ntBCAdDM6djbP5GQhEr6Nun Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got one too. I figured it was just a server brain fart. On 5/3/2026 11:59 AM, Tim . wrote: > I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation > note from the list serve. > > I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... > > Tim > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bspidell@comcast.net > --------------0ntBCAdDM6djbP5GQhEr6Nun Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I got one too. I figured it was just a server brain fart.

On 5/3/2026 11:59 AM, Tim . wrote:
I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note from the list serve. 

I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled.....

Tim

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Brian ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of Tim . Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2026 12:59 PM To: Shop Talk ; Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Shop-talk] testing testing I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note f= rom the list serve. I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... Tim --_000_SA1PR84MB38953F97EEAF216B43E87855BB312SA1PR84MB3895NAMP_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Seems like it is still working.

Brian
From: Shop-talk <shop-ta= lk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outl= ook.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2026 12:59 PM
To: Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>; Datsun Roadster List= <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Shop-talk] testing testing
 
I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note f= rom the list serve. 

I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled.....

Tim
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It was a cancellation confirmation note fr= om the list serve.=20 I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... Tim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archi= ve as@icloud.com --Apple-Mail-95683613-112E-41DF-8E64-9379E6687733 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Still here. 

Pat Horne 
We support Habita= t for Humanity


On May 5, 2026= , at 6:10=E2=80=AFAM, Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> wrote:
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I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note fr= om the list serve. 

I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled.....

Tim
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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] [Roadsters] testing testing Cc: Shop Talk , Datsun Roadster List Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7792125262485249031== --0000000000008e471306511c8a5e Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An international audiovisual list serve I=E2=80=99ve be on since the mid = =E2=80=9890s started randomly bouncing my posts from this gmail address a little over a year ago so I set up a couple of alternative accounts. I haven=E2=80=99t ha= d any problems with any of the team net lists that Mark hosts Weird, but frankly I=E2=80=99m surprised that all of this works as well as = it does, and I been in or around IT since the mid =E2=80=9880s. RD On Tue, May 5, 2026 at 5:25=E2=80=AFPM Tim . wrote: > Thanks all > ------------------------------ > *From:* Datsun-roadsters on > behalf of Tim . > *Sent:* Sunday, May 3, 2026 1:59 PM > *To:* Shop Talk ; Datsun Roadster List < > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> > *Subject:* [Roadsters] testing testing > > I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note > from the list serve. > > I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled..... > > Tim > ________________________________________ > > datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/datsun-roadsters > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/datsun-roadsters/ronnie.day@gmail.c= om > > > --0000000000008e471306511c8a5e Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
An international audiovisual list serve I=E2=80=99ve be o= n since the mid =E2=80=9890s started randomly bouncing my posts from this g= mail address a little over a year ago so I set up a couple of alternative a= ccounts. I haven=E2=80=99t had any problems with any of the team net lists = that Mark hosts

Weird, b= ut frankly I=E2=80=99m surprised that all of this works as well as it does,= and I been in or around IT since the mid =E2=80=9880s.=C2=A0

RD

On Tue, = May 5, 2026 at 5:25=E2=80=AFPM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> wrote:
Thanks all
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=C2=A0
I got an odd email the other day. It was a cancellation confirmation note f= rom the list serve.=C2=A0

I wanted to see if somehow someone managed to get me cancelled.....

Tim
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She did a pretty good job on an outdoor table but the varnish flaked-off after a few months. This table has a steel frame and a stained wood top; what is a good finish--urethane, acrylic, varnish, etc.--that will give a good luster and last more than a season in the elements? 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But since the varnish is flaking off, I wonder if there was an adhesion problem. Doug On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 9:28=E2=80=AFPM Bob Spidell w= rote: > Wifey has a furniture restoration hobby. She did a pretty good job on an > outdoor table but the varnish flaked-off after a few months. This table > has a steel frame and a stained wood top; what is a good > finish--urethane, acrylic, varnish, etc.--that will give a good luster > and last more than a season in the elements? > > TIA, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/doug@dougbraun.com > > --0000000000003cc9f90651592c4b Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interlux Schooner varnish holds up very well on boats= .
But since the varnish is flaking off, I wonder if there was an = adhesion problem.

Doug

On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 9:28=E2=80=AFPM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
Wifey has a furniture restoration= hobby. She did a pretty good job on an
outdoor table but the varnish flaked-off after a few months. This table has a steel frame and a stained wood top; what is a good
finish--urethane, acrylic, varnish, etc.--that will give a good luster
and last more than a season in the elements?

TIA,
Bob
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I could swear that=C2=A0I used=C2=A0to run an AGM battery meant for= a Honda Gold Wing, laid down flat in my Lotus Elise. That car has gone awa= y.

I bought a= Birkin and there is a larger automotive AGM battery lying on its side.=C2= =A0 This battery won't fit in there standing up with the terminals on t= op.=C2=A0 Is it OK to continue=C2=A0to use the mounting done by a previous = owner?

-- =
Phil Ethier, West Side, Sai= nt Paul Minnesota, USA
2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white
2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white
= 2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white
1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white
2003(?= ) Birkin, Green.
www.mnauto= x.com

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On Sun, Apr 12, 2026 at= 5:12=E2=80=AFAM Mark Bradakis <mar= k@bradakis.com> wrote:


Time marches on, and so does Team Net.=C2=A0 I'll keep it going as long= as I
can, health permitting.=C2=A0 Who knows, maybe I'll be sending out a 50= th
birthday notice!
_______________________________________________


From=C2=A0your lips to God's ear= .

Thanks for = all you do.=C2=A0 I find it hard to believe that I have been around for tho= se 35 years.=C2=A0=C2=A0

I plan to be in SLC for the Lotus Owners Gathering.=C2=A0=C2=A0=


--
Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA
2006 Gulf St= ream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white
2011 Ca= yman 2.9 PDK, white
2021 Ford F-15= 0 3500cc twin turbo, white
1991 Caterham 1700 Super= Sprint, not white
www.mnautox.com

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Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3282225977498007036== boundary="----=_Part_517077_915174019.1778497140793" ------=_Part_517077_915174019.1778497140793 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was a principal in a small company that designed and built electric power= ed transportation assisting devices for heavy medical devices and patient t= ransport and we used AGM batteries a lot.=C2=A0 In many applications they w= ere oriented on their sides.=C2=A0 No issues associated with that orientati= on.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dave=20 =20 On Monday, May 11, 2026 at 02:49:50 AM CDT, Philip Ethier wrote: =20 I could swear that=C2=A0I used=C2=A0to run an AGM battery meant for a Hond= a Gold Wing, laid down flat in my Lotus Elise. That car has gone away. I bought a Birkin and there is a larger automotive AGM battery lying on its= side.=C2=A0 This battery won't fit in there standing up with the terminals= on top.=C2=A0 Is it OK to continue=C2=A0to use the mounting done by a prev= ious owner? --=20 Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA2006 Gulf Stream Conquest = Super C, 8.1, white2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin tu= rbo, white1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white2003(?) Birkin, Green. www.mnautox.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/arch= ive ssey@cs.com =20 ------=_Part_517077_915174019.1778497140793 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was a principal in a small company that de= signed and built electric powered transportation assisting devices for heav= y medical devices and patient transport and we used AGM batteries a lot.&nb= sp; In many applications they were oriented on their sides.  No issues= associated with that orientation.  

=
Dave <= br>




=20
=20
On Monday, May 11, 2026 at 02:49:50 AM CDT, Philip = Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com> wrote:


=
I could swear that I used to run an AGM battery m= eant for a Honda Gold Wing, laid down flat in my Lotus Elise. That car has = gone away.

I bought a Birkin and there= is a larger automotive AGM battery lying on its side.  This battery w= on't fit in there standing up with the terminals on top.  Is it OK to = continue to use the mounting done by a previous owner?

-= -
= Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA
<= span style=3D"font-family:monospace;color:rgb(0,0,0);">2006 Gulf Stream Con= quest Super C, 8.1, white
2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white
<= span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">2021 Ford F-150 3500c= c twin turbo, white
1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white
<= span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">2003(?) Birkin, Green.
www.mnautox.com

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Personally, I use this TotalBoat Lust Marine Spar Varnish on my sailboat, but any of the Total Boat varnishes have a good reputation, although I have not used the water-based one. Another popular finnish with boaters is Cetol by Sikkens. I've used it on the interior of my boat but never the exterior. If you live anywhere near an ocean or sizable lake try your local chandlery for other choices. Good luck. Tom On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 9:17=E2=80=AFPM Bob Spidell w= rote: > Wifey has a furniture restoration hobby. She did a pretty good job on an > outdoor table but the varnish flaked-off after a few months. This table > has a steel frame and a stained wood top; what is a good > finish--urethane, acrylic, varnish, etc.--that will give a good luster > and last more than a season in the elements? > > TIA, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fitzgibbontm@gmail.com > > --000000000000595130065189acff Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bob,

Most marine finishes will hold up,= but they do require some maintenance.=C2=A0 Personally, I use this=C2=A0TotalBoat Lust Marine Spar Varnish=C2=A0on my sailboat, but any of th= e Total Boat varnishes have a good reputation, although I have not used the= water-based one.=C2=A0 Another popular finnish with boaters is Cetol by Si= kkens.=C2=A0 I've used it on the interior of my boat but never the exte= rior.=C2=A0 If you live anywhere near an ocean or sizable lake try your loc= al chandlery for other choices.

Good luck.

Tom

On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 9:1= 7=E2=80=AFPM Bob Spidell <bspide= ll@comcast.net> wrote:
Wifey has a furniture restoration hobby. She did a pretty goo= d job on an
outdoor table but the varnish flaked-off after a few months. This table has a steel frame and a stained wood top; what is a good
finish--urethane, acrylic, varnish, etc.--that will give a good luster
and last more than a season in the elements?

TIA,
Bob
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I use it on my log home (Southwest New > Hampshire) and it holds up well against the weather. I end up doing a > maintenance coat every 5 years. --0000000000002c57e906518b4df9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I second the use of Sikkens Cetol. I use it on = my log home (Southwest New Hampshire) and it holds up well against the weat= her. I end up doing a maintenance coat every 5 years.
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Cc: Shop-Talk Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1319123749097087463== boundary="----=_Part_637680_1392623940.1778513169922" ------=_Part_637680_1392623940.1778513169922 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or, just making the connections would be really awkward. Dave=20 =20 On Monday, May 11, 2026 at 08:34:30 AM CDT, David Scheidt wrote: =20 =20 > On May 11, 2026, at 02:21, Philip Ethier wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > I could swear that I used to run an AGM battery meant for a Honda Gold Wi= ng, laid down flat in my Lotus Elise. That car has gone away. >=20 > I bought a Birkin and there is a larger automotive AGM battery lying on i= ts side.=C2=A0 This battery won't fit in there standing up with the termina= ls on top.=C2=A0 Is it OK to continue to use the mounting done by a previou= s owner? >=20 Yes.=C2=A0 Agm batteries can be mounted in any orientation.=C2=A0 Most say = not upside down, but I am pretty sure that is to avoid dropping it and shor= ting the terminals.=20 >=20 _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/arch= ive ssey@cs.com =20 ------=_Part_637680_1392623940.1778513169922 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Or, just making the connections would be rea= lly awkward.

Dave

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On Monday, May 11, 2026 at 08:34:30 AM CDT, David S= cheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com> wrote:




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> On May 11, 2026, at 02:21, Philip Ethier <pethier7@= gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> I could swear that I= used to run an AGM battery meant for a Honda Gold Wing, laid down flat in = my Lotus Elise. That car has gone away.
>
=
> I bought a Birkin and there is a larger automot= ive AGM battery lying on its side.  This battery won't fit in there st= anding up with the terminals on top.  Is it OK to continue to use the = mounting done by a previous owner?
>

Yes.  Agm batteries can b= e mounted in any orientation.  Most say not upside down, but I am pret= ty sure that is to avoid dropping it and shorting the terminals.
=

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Cc: Shop-Talk , David Scheidt Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5175856708049198789== --000000000000438f5b06518c813e Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 10:26=E2=80=AFAM DAVID MASSEY = wrote: > Or, just making the connections would be really awkward. > > Dave > It turns out that as the car came to me this battery orientation is the only way the current cables will reach. Thanks to all who helped. On Monday, May 11, 2026 at 08:34:30 AM CDT, David Scheidt < dmscheidt@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 11, 2026, at 02:21, Philip Ethier wrote: > > > > =EF=BB=BF > > I could swear that I used to run an AGM battery meant for a Honda Gold > Wing, laid down flat in my Lotus Elise. That car has gone away. > > > > I bought a Birkin and there is a larger automotive AGM battery lying on > its side. This battery won't fit in there standing up with the terminals > on top. Is it OK to continue to use the mounting done by a previous owne= r? > > > > Yes. Agm batteries can be mounted in any orientation. Most say not > upside down, but I am pretty sure that is to avoid dropping it and shorti= ng > the terminals. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey@cs.com > > --=20 Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA 2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white 2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white 2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white 1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white 2003(?) BIrkin, green. www.mnautox.com --000000000000438f5b06518c813e Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, May 11, 2026 at= 10:26=E2=80=AFAM DAVID MASSEY <da= ve1massey@cs.com> wrote:
Or, just making the connections would = be really awkward.

Dave

It turns out that as the car = came to me this battery orientation=C2=A0is the only way the current cables= will reach.

= Thanks to all who helped.

=C2=A0On Monday, May 11, 2026 at 08:34:30 AM CDT, David Scheid= t <dmscheidt@gmail.com> wrote:
=




=
> On May 11, 2026, at 02:21, Philip Ethier <pethier7@= gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> I could swear that I= used to run an AGM battery meant for a Honda Gold Wing, laid down flat in = my Lotus Elise. That car has gone away.
>
=
> I bought a Birkin and there is a larger automot= ive AGM battery lying on its side.=C2=A0 This battery won't fit in ther= e standing up with the terminals on top.=C2=A0 Is it OK to continue to use = the mounting done by a previous owner?
>
<= /div>

Yes.=C2=A0 Agm batteries c= an be mounted in any orientation.=C2=A0 Most say not upside down, but I am = pretty sure that is to avoid dropping it and shorting the terminals.

>
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2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, = 8.1, white
2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white
2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, wh= ite
1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white
2003(?) BIrkin, green.
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