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You all have been quite.

 

Our next ride is scheduled for tomorrow 10/27/12

 

I'm not sure I can make it as I am battling a nasty case of poison oak.

But I might.

 

Weather is supposed to be fantastic!

 

Anyway, you all should meet at bad ass coffee at 10am and go on a ride.

 

Anybody got a good idea?

 

Hope to see you tomorrow

 

And as always, bring a full tank of gas, a lunch and a folding chair.

 

JOHN KENNER
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Let me know if you plan to come in the direction of Tomales Bay/ Point Reyes Station.  I might take some time off painting my windows!


Mark Darley
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On Oct 26, 2012, at 11:50 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:

> You all have been quite.
> 
> 
> 
> Our next ride is scheduled for tomorrow 10/27/12
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not sure I can make it as I am battling a nasty case of poison oak.
> 
> But I might.
> 
> 
> 
> Weather is supposed to be fantastic!
> 
> 
> 
> Anyway, you all should meet at bad ass coffee at 10am and go on a ride.
> 
> 
> 
> Anybody got a good idea?
> 
> 
> 
> Hope to see you tomorrow
> 
> 
> 
> And as always, bring a full tank of gas, a lunch and a folding chair.
> 
> 
> 
> JOHN KENNER
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Thanks! I'll be there! John, if you make it, you will benefit from the
little-know immunity-boosting effects of British cars. Dawson

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:50 AM, JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com> wrote:

> You all have been quite.
>
>
>
> Our next ride is scheduled for tomorrow 10/27/12
>
>
>
> I'm not sure I can make it as I am battling a nasty case of poison oak.
>
> But I might.
>
>
>
> Weather is supposed to be fantastic!
>
>
>
> Anyway, you all should meet at bad ass coffee at 10am and go on a ride.
>
>
>
> Anybody got a good idea?
>
>
>
> Hope to see you tomorrow
>
>
>
> And as always, bring a full tank of gas, a lunch and a folding chair.
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC@autox.team.net
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Sorry I shall miss it AGAIN. Work party.

Andrew

'79 Spitfire
'77 Lotus Esprit


> Thanks! I'll be there! John, if you make it, you will benefit from the
> little-know immunity-boosting effects of British cars. Dawson
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:50 AM, JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com> wrote:
>
>> You all have been quite.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our next ride is scheduled for tomorrow 10/27/12
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I can make it as I am battling a nasty case of poison oak.
>>
>> But I might.
>>
>>
>>
>> Weather is supposed to be fantastic!
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, you all should meet at bad ass coffee at 10am and go on a ride.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anybody got a good idea?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope to see you tomorrow
>>
>>
>>
>> And as always, bring a full tank of gas, a lunch and a folding chair.
>>
>>
>>
>> JOHN KENNER
>> _______________________________________________
>> NOBBC@autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
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>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/nobbc/dawsonchurch@gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
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Well, since Dawson says it will be good for me I guess I'll go!!

I hate missing these rides.

Time to think about switching to the Winter Schedule of one ride per month?



JOHN KENNER


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dawson Church
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [NOBBC] OUR NEXT RIDE

Thanks! I'll be there! John, if you make it, you will benefit from the
little-know immunity-boosting effects of British cars. Dawson

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:50 AM, JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com> wrote:

> You all have been quite.
>
>
>
> Our next ride is scheduled for tomorrow 10/27/12
>
>
>
> I'm not sure I can make it as I am battling a nasty case of poison oak.
>
> But I might.
>
>
>
> Weather is supposed to be fantastic!
>
>
>
> Anyway, you all should meet at bad ass coffee at 10am and go on a ride.
>
>
>
> Anybody got a good idea?
>
>
>
> Hope to see you tomorrow
>
>
>
> And as always, bring a full tank of gas, a lunch and a folding chair.
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC@autox.team.net
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oooh noooo, I have to pick a friend up at the airport.
I think Clif has a work day scheduled for his rear end.  (Lemons car)
May drop by to say "hi" though.
I do agree, hate missing rides.
Deb

-----Original Message----- 
From: JOHN KENNER
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:04 PM
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Well, since Dawson says it will be good for me I guess I'll go!!

I hate missing these rides.

Time to think about switching to the Winter Schedule of one ride per month?



JOHN KENNER


-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dawson Church
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [NOBBC] OUR NEXT RIDE

Thanks! I'll be there! John, if you make it, you will benefit from the
little-know immunity-boosting effects of British cars. Dawson

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:50 AM, JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com> wrote:

> You all have been quite.
>
>
>
> Our next ride is scheduled for tomorrow 10/27/12
>
>
>
> I'm not sure I can make it as I am battling a nasty case of poison oak.
>
> But I might.
>
>
>
> Weather is supposed to be fantastic!
>
>
>
> Anyway, you all should meet at bad ass coffee at 10am and go on a ride.
>
>
>
> Anybody got a good idea?
>
>
>
> Hope to see you tomorrow
>
>
>
> And as always, bring a full tank of gas, a lunch and a folding chair.
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC@autox.team.net
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From: wendell bain <wbain@sonic.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:23:01 -0700
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Can't make this one. Helping a friend put the engine back in
a TR-3. I doubt we will be done in time to go on the run.
Maybe next time.

Wendell

On Oct 26, 2012, at 11:50 AM, JOHN KENNER wrote:

> You all have been quite.
>
>
>
> Our next ride is scheduled for tomorrow 10/27/12
>
>
>
> I'm not sure I can make it as I am battling a nasty case of poison  
> oak.
>
> But I might.
>
>
>
> Weather is supposed to be fantastic!
>
>
>
> Anyway, you all should meet at bad ass coffee at 10am and go on a  
> ride.
>
>
>
> Anybody got a good idea?
>
>
>
> Hope to see you tomorrow
>
>
>
> And as always, bring a full tank of gas, a lunch and a folding chair.
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
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From: Sarto Rocheleau <sarto477@yahoo.com>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc@autox.team.net>
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Hi John, GGLC is having a Dave Bean Lotus event tomorrow in San Andreas.
So I'll miss our ride.
http://gglotus.org/ggcalend/ggcalend.htm
Sarto

--- On Fri, 10/26/12, JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com> wrote:

> From: JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com>
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] OUR NEXT RIDE
> To: "'North Bay British Car Club'" <nobbc@autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, October 26, 2012, 2:04 PM
> Well, since Dawson says it will be
> good for me I guess I'll go!!
>
> I hate missing these rides.
>
> Time to think about switching to the Winter Schedule of one
> ride per month?
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net
> [mailto:nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net]
> On
> Behalf Of Dawson Church
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:37 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] OUR NEXT RIDE
>
> Thanks! I'll be there! John, if you make it, you will
> benefit from the
> little-know immunity-boosting effects of British cars.
> Dawson
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:50 AM, JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com>
> wrote:
>
> > You all have been quite.
> >
> >
> >
> > Our next ride is scheduled for tomorrow 10/27/12
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure I can make it as I am battling a nasty
> case of poison oak.
> >
> > But I might.
> >
> >
> >
> > Weather is supposed to be fantastic!
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyway, you all should meet at bad ass coffee at 10am
> and go on a ride.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anybody got a good idea?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope to see you tomorrow
> >
> >
> >
> > And as always, bring a full tank of gas, a lunch and a
> folding chair.
> >
> >
> >
> > JOHN KENNER
> > _______________________________________________
> > NOBBC@autox.team.net
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dawson
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Hi John,
Thanks for leading the ride, and we hope going helps heal your poison oak!
Unfortunately, Jan and I will be working on some exterior painting and
exterior window repair...seems our weather for doing this is beginning to be
intermittent and unpredictable.
I wish we had started these projects earlier, as our ride weather is becoming
the same...and tomorrow should be a great day for a ride.
Can you tell we are choosing what we have to do, not what we would like to
do?????
We hope to see you next time.
Best regards,
Gary and Janet Germano  '70 yellow MGB

> From: jkenner@tamcab.com
> To: nobbc@autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:04:01 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] OUR NEXT RIDE
>
> Well, since Dawson says it will be good for me I guess I'll go!!
>
> I hate missing these rides.
>
> Time to think about switching to the Winter Schedule of one ride per month?
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Dawson Church
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 12:37 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Subject: Re: [NOBBC] OUR NEXT RIDE
>
> Thanks! I'll be there! John, if you make it, you will benefit from the
> little-know immunity-boosting effects of British cars. Dawson
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:50 AM, JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com> wrote:
>
> > You all have been quite.
> >
> >
> >
> > Our next ride is scheduled for tomorrow 10/27/12
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure I can make it as I am battling a nasty case of poison oak.
> >
> > But I might.
> >
> >
> >
> > Weather is supposed to be fantastic!
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyway, you all should meet at bad ass coffee at 10am and go on a ride.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anybody got a good idea?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope to see you tomorrow
> >
> >
> >
> > And as always, bring a full tank of gas, a lunch and a folding chair.
> >
> >
> >
> > JOHN KENNER
> > _______________________________________________
> > NOBBC@autox.team.net
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> >
>
>
>
> --
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From: JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com>
To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc@autox.team.net>,
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I made a ride leader mistake today.



We were heading down Silverado Trail towards St. Helena to have lunch

at Taylors Refresher and I was looking for the stone bridge

at Pope Street to turn right onto.

Instead I mad an abrupt turn ( a Lotus thing) at the stone bridge on Pratt
Street.



The result was I lost = of the riders and they never showed up at Taylors.



The mysterious part was that Betz Miller was able to turn Froggy around and
catch up to the

2 of us that were waiting. Where did the rest of you guys go? Didnt you see
Betz, who was in front of you, turn around?

I ask because I need to learn from my mistake.



For those of you who have been sitting at home on ride day:

2 weeks ago we had 10 cars

and this week we had 7.



2 MGs with V6s in em and Renee with the V8 MG. A 1948 MG, Jim Leggs MG,
Dawson Healey and my little old Lotus.





SORRY GUYS.



JOHN KENNER
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From: Bill Badstubner <billbadstubner@gmail.com>
To: North Bay British Car Club Mailing List <nobbc@autox.team.net>
Subject: [NOBBC] '58 Jag XK-150 Repair Question
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Have any of you fellow XK owners in the club had to replace the rubber
coupling that connects the upper and lower portions of the steering column
on your car?

On my car, this looks like the original rubber component now hardened,
badly checked and with a significant crack partway down the long axis of
the coupling. I have a new replacement coupling sourced from XK's Unlimited
but not a clue as to the correct procedure for making the replacement. Does
the entire column have to come out of the car, or can I simply disconnect
the lower column at its connection (u-joint) to the steering rack to
release the tension on the coupling and install the relacement with the
upper column still on the car?

There is more than the usual amount of play in the steering, making me
reluctant to drive the car. If it needs to go to a shop for this fix it
will probably have to get there on a trailer.

Thanks for any advice.

Bill Badstubner
Santa Rosa
'53 MG-TD
'58 Jaguar XK-150 FHC

Why would anyone own an old British sports car? Because the car needs you.
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From: JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com>
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Subject: [NOBBC] FW: SF Moscone Center International Car Show. Thur. 11/22,
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I'm not sure which NOBBC email Betz sent this to so I'm forwarding it
around.

 

Pretty exciting for Mr. Toad to be in such a big show!

 

See Below:

 

Dear Car Club Friends,

Not a perfect 1948 MGTC like Rick & Judy had for Qvale Book, but well loved
& driven frequently.  I have been invited to have Mr Toad on display in the
Qvale Cars Display.  Perhaps I see you there, Betz Miller

"We may be able to make Froggy a star after all.  How would you like to show
it at the SF International Auto Show at Moscone Center, November 21-26?
We're doing a CARS OF QVALE display...MG, Jaguar, Jensen and Mangusta. We'd
give you name credit, a signed copy of the book on Mr. Q."

SF International Auto Show at Moscone Center, November 21-26

MOSCONE CENTER

SHOW DATES:

Thursday, (Thanksgiving), November 22 through Monday, November 26, 2012.

SHOW TIMES:

Thur. - Sun. : 10:00 am to 10:00 pm Monday: 10:00 am to 8:00 pm

Mr. Toad ("Froggy") will not be on display on Monday, because I don't want
to drive home in the dark.
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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:34:40 -0400
From: Dawson Church <dawsonchurch@gmail.com>
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Hi John,

No problem, it was a glorious day to be out! Yes, I saw her turn, but
didn't know why. The rest of us kept going. When we neared Napa, I realized
that we'd overshot and turned around myself, but just went straight home.

Cheers,

Dawson


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 7:17 PM, JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com> wrote:

> I made a ride leader mistake today.
>
>
>
> We were heading down Silverado Trail towards St. Helena to have lunch
>
> at Taylors Refresher and I was looking for the stone bridge
>
> at Pope Street to turn right onto.
>
> Instead I mad an abrupt turn ( a Lotus thing) at the stone bridge on Pratt
> Street.
>
>
>
> The result was I lost = of the riders and they never showed up at Taylors.
>
>
>
> The mysterious part was that Betz Miller was able to turn Froggy around and
> catch up to the
>
> 2 of us that were waiting. Where did the rest of you guys go? Didn t you
> see
> Betz, who was in front of you, turn around?
>
> I ask because I need to learn from my mistake.
>
>
>
> For those of you who have been sitting at home on ride day:
>
> 2 weeks ago we had 10 cars
>
> and this week we had 7.
>
>
>
> 2 MG s with V6 s in em and Renee with the V8 MG. A 1948 MG, Jim Legg s MG,
> Dawson Healey and my little old Lotus.
>
>
>
>
>
> SORRY GUYS.
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
> _______________________________________________
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I realized later that I should have waited and had a chat as to what had
happened.
Sorry,
Betz & Froggy

-----Original Message-----
From: nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:nobbc-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dawson Church
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:35 PM
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Hi John,

No problem, it was a glorious day to be out! Yes, I saw her turn, but didn't
know why. The rest of us kept going. When we neared Napa, I realized that
we'd overshot and turned around myself, but just went straight home.

Cheers,

Dawson


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 7:17 PM, JOHN KENNER <jkenner@tamcab.com> wrote:

> I made a ride leader mistake today.
>
>
>
> We were heading down Silverado Trail towards St. Helena to have lunch
>
> at Taylors Refresher and I was looking for the stone bridge
>
> at Pope Street to turn right onto.
>
> Instead I mad an abrupt turn ( a Lotus thing) at the stone bridge on 
> Pratt Street.
>
>
>
> The result was I lost = of the riders and they never showed up at Taylors.
>
>
>
> The mysterious part was that Betz Miller was able to turn Froggy 
> around and catch up to the
>
> 2 of us that were waiting. Where did the rest of you guys go? Didn t 
> you see Betz, who was in front of you, turn around?
>
> I ask because I need to learn from my mistake.
>
>
>
> For those of you who have been sitting at home on ride day:
>
> 2 weeks ago we had 10 cars
>
> and this week we had 7.
>
>
>
> 2 MG s with V6 s in em and Renee with the V8 MG. A 1948 MG, Jim Legg s 
> MG, Dawson Healey and my little old Lotus.
>
>
>
>
>
> SORRY GUYS.
>
>
>
> JOHN KENNER
> _______________________________________________
> NOBBC@autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation  
> $11.47
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>



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From: Robin Jackson <apexbrit2@gmail.com>
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Brad - that's a job I've not done but*  *did find the following, which may
be of some help:
http://jag2jag.com/forum/topics/the-otto-mueller-xk-150-rrr

There is a section with pictures on steering column restoration. It looks
to me like the entire column should be removed and repaired as necessary
while you are doing the coupling replacement. If you like, I could take a
look to give my 2 cents worth!. Best,Rob

On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Bill Badstubner
<billbadstubner@gmail.com>wrote:

> Have any of you fellow XK owners in the club had to replace the rubber
> coupling that connects the upper and lower portions of the steering column
> on your car?
>
> On my car, this looks like the original rubber component now hardened,
> badly checked and with a significant crack partway down the long axis of
> the coupling. I have a new replacement coupling sourced from XK's Unlimited
> but not a clue as to the correct procedure for making the replacement. Does
> the entire column have to come out of the car, or can I simply disconnect
> the lower column at its connection (u-joint) to the steering rack to
> release the tension on the coupling and install the relacement with the
> upper column still on the car?
>
> There is more than the usual amount of play in the steering, making me
> reluctant to drive the car. If it needs to go to a shop for this fix it
> will probably have to get there on a trailer.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Bill Badstubner
> Santa Rosa
> '53 MG-TD
> '58 Jaguar XK-150 FHC
>
> Why would anyone own an old British sports car? Because the car needs you.
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Hey gang, one of my fellow Land Rover loon pals has acquired a rolling wreck
of a Land Rover from a guy in Vallejo, and he carelessly brought it home.

But the story of interest here is that the seller, also has a back yard full
of MGs in various states of decay.  The Land Rover loon has entered into an
agreement with the guy to help dispose of this .. uh mess or treasure,
depending on your needs I suppose.   Anyway. at this point there is no
inventory since much of it has yet to be unearthed in the detritus or exposed
to the light after getting rid of other stuff.   He says he'll come up with
some descriptions, but until then here's a link to some photos.   Caveat:
viewing not advisable for the weak of heart.

If anyone wants to be on a list for something you need, lemme know and I'll
forward your request.   If the Land Rover guy consents I could be able to
provide a direct link.  There are also engine blocks and other such under
cover from the weather . but I'd guess they're in similar condition.   The
pile includes TD, MGA and MGB carcasses.

So here's the photo link:
https://picasaweb.google.com/106832675429416680765/October30201202?authuser=0
&authkey=Gv1sRgCOG8xc7AxbX2Xg&feat=directlink

Gerry

G. Mugele
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From: "Clif & Deborah Williamson" <hawkview@sonic.net>
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FYI   the address only works if you copy and paste the complete address 
(blue and black).
thanks for the MG info
clif

-----Original Message----- 
From: G. Mugele
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:17 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: [NOBBC] MG Stuffb&.

Hey gang, one of my fellow Land Rover loon pals has acquired a rolling wreck
of a Land Rover from a guy in Vallejo, and he carelessly brought it home.

But the story of interest here is that the seller, also has a back yard full
of MGs in various states of decay.  The Land Rover loon has entered into an
agreement with the guy to help dispose of this .. uh mess or treasure,
depending on your needs I suppose.   Anyway. at this point there is no
inventory since much of it has yet to be unearthed in the detritus or 
exposed
to the light after getting rid of other stuff.   He says he'll come up with
some descriptions, but until then here's a link to some photos.   Caveat:
viewing not advisable for the weak of heart.

If anyone wants to be on a list for something you need, lemme know and I'll
forward your request.   If the Land Rover guy consents I could be able to
provide a direct link.  There are also engine blocks and other such under
cover from the weather . but I'd guess they're in similar condition.   The
pile includes TD, MGA and MGB carcasses.

So here's the photo link:
https://picasaweb.google.com/106832675429416680765/October30201202?authuser=0
&authkey=Gv1sRgCOG8xc7AxbX2Xg&feat=directlink

Gerry

G. Mugele
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From: Don <don@napanet.net>
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Gerry,
That is the mother of all MG graveyards!  Used to be "collections" 
like that all over the place, but with the passage of time, owners 
die or move on and the stuff gets sold for scrap or to hobbyists in 
some cases.  My yard and storage building were on the verge of 
looking like that at one time, but reality scared me into cleaning it up.
Don Scott
Calistoga CA USA
1955 MGTF
1962 MGA Mk 2
1967 MGB
1963-7 MGB (seeking)
Misc. Japanese cars


At 08:17 PM 10/30/2012, you wrote:
>Hey gang, one of my fellow Land Rover loon pals has acquired a rolling wreck
>of a Land Rover from a guy in Vallejo, and he carelessly brought it home.
>
>But the story of interest here is that the seller, also has a back yard full
>of MGs in various states of decay.  The Land Rover loon has entered into an
>agreement with the guy to help dispose of this .. uh mess or treasure,
>depending on your needs I suppose.   Anyway. at this point there is no
>inventory since much of it has yet to be unearthed in the detritusor exposed
>to the light after getting rid of other stuff.   He says he'll come up with
>some descriptions, but until then here's a link to some photos.   Caveat:
>viewing not advisable for the weak of heart.
>
>If anyone wants to be on a list for something you need, lemme know and I'll
>forward your request.   If the Land Rover guy consents I could be able to
>provide a direct link.  There are also engine blocks and other such under
>cover from the weather . but I'd guess they're in similar condition.   The
>pile includes TD, MGA and MGB carcasses.
>
>So here's the photo link:
>https://picasaweb.google.com/106832675429416680765/October30201202?authuser=0
>&authkey=Gv1sRgCOG8xc7AxbX2Xg&feat=directlink
>
>Gerry
>
>G. Mugele
>mewgull@mugele.net
>
>*** Mistakes are part of the dues that one pays for a full life.-- Sophia
>Loren
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Gerry,

 What a find, I would be interested if there were any MGC skeletons in
the pack. 
I think the MGC is very rare compared to most classics but goes
unnoticed by 
most and parts are getting hard to find. Please keep us posted.
I love my 
British cars, but if anyone ever runs across a 1952 - 1962 Alfa
Romeo Giulietta 
Spyder please let me know. I use to have a 1961 and would
love to have one to 
play with  again. 


David Cherry
1969 MGC convertible,
3.0 liter 6, 4 speed O.D., owned 30 yrs
1960 Jaguar MKI, 3.8 liter, 4 door
sedan, 4 speed O.D.   



________________________________
From: G. Mugele
<mewgull@sonic.net>
To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, October 30, 2012 8:56:00 PM
Subject: [NOBBC] MG Stuffb&.

Hey
gang, one of my fellow Land Rover loon pals has acquired a rolling wreck
of a
Land Rover from a guy in Vallejo, and he carelessly brought it home.

But the
story of interest here is that the seller, also has a back yard full
of MGs in
various states of decay.  The Land Rover loon has entered into an
agreement
with the guy to help dispose of this .. uh mess or treasure,
depending on your
needs I suppose.   Anyway. at this point there is no
inventory since much of
it has yet to be unearthed in the detritus or exposed
to the light after
getting rid of other stuff.   He says he'll come up with
some descriptions,
but until then here's a link to some photos.   Caveat:
viewing not advisable
for the weak of heart.

If anyone wants to be on a list for something you
need, lemme know and I'll
forward your request.   If the Land Rover guy
consents I could be able to
provide a direct link.  There are also engine
blocks and other such under
cover from the weather . but I'd guess they're in
similar condition.   The
pile includes TD, MGA and MGB carcasses.

So here's
the photo link:
https://picasaweb.google.com/106832675429416680765/October30201202?authuser=0
&authkey=Gv1sRgCOG8xc7AxbX2Xg&feat=directlink

Gerry

G. Mugele
mewgull@mugele.net

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I sent your info to Greg Harwood the Land Rover guy. along with a note
asking what he wants to do.  I know that he's taken on more than he has time
for but I'm sure he'll work his way through all that crap eventually.

I did spot something in the mess that, to me,  looks like an MGC bonnet.
check photo #57.  Isn't that from an "C"?
And weren't most of the MGCs the GTs?    I don't think I saw many convertibles
back then.

Yeah I've been amazed at what has happened to the price of Giuliettas.
especially the Sprint Speciales .. geez.  I always preferred the slightly
newer ones for some of the minor detail improvements and for the 5-speed and
. well. I think I prefer the 1600 engine.   As it is none of 'em are
over-powered. even by anemic British Car standards.
And hey being honest here. I know it's a little shallow but really the later
bonnet with the wider scoops looks a lot cooler.

Trouble is I can't think of any good reason to get a long desired over
another Brit car, considering that I could probably get a semi decent Jag Mk
II for the price of a so-so Alfa.

Gerry
Brit car afflicted since 1961


On Oct 31, 2012, at 4:04 AM, David Cherry wrote:

> Gerry,
>
> What a find, I would be interested if there were any MGC skeletons in
> the pack.
> I think the MGC is very rare compared to most classics but goes
> unnoticed by
> most and parts are getting hard to find. Please keep us posted.
> I love my
> British cars, but if anyone ever runs across a 1952 - 1962 Alfa
> Romeo Giulietta
> Spyder please let me know. I use to have a 1961 and would
> love to have one to
> play with  again.
>
>
> David Cherry
> 1969 MGC convertible,
> 3.0 liter 6, 4 speed O.D., owned 30 yrs
> 1960 Jaguar MKI, 3.8 liter, 4 door
> sedan, 4 speed O.D.

G. Mugele
mewgull@mugele.net

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Okay. I made a new URL for those having trouble getting to see the horror
photos appropriate for Holloween.

try this one:

http://tinyurl.com/MG-crap

Gerry


On Oct 31, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Timothy Trevithick wrote:

> Gerry..Don Scott forwarded the info regarding Land Rover/derilict MGA/B
stuff ..the link to the images does not work .. I'm looking for MGA stuff and
have a few MGB's and Rileys as well  ..where are the cars located ? I'm in the
Grass Valley area and have a trailer for collecting stuff etc. regards  Tim.

G. Mugele
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Hi Gerry thanks for the photos of the MG scrap yard.  I'll take on most
projects but those cars are too far gone to even bother with.  There may be
some parts that could be salvaged but based on the photos it looks like it's
mostly scrap by now.

 

Andy

4 MGs and don't need another one.

 

  _____  

From: G. Mugele [mailto:mewgull@sonic.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:17 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Cc: Andy Preston
Subject: MG Stuff..

 

Hey gang, one of my fellow Land Rover loon pals has acquired a rolling wreck
of a Land Rover from a guy in Vallejo, and he carelessly brought it home.  

 

But the story of interest here is that the seller, also has a back yard full
of MGs in various states of decay.  The Land Rover loon has entered into an
agreement with the guy to help dispose of this ... uh mess or treasure,
depending on your needs I suppose.   Anyway.. at this point there is no
inventory since much of it has yet to be unearthed in the detritus. or
exposed to the light after getting rid of other stuff.   He says he'll come
up with some descriptions, but until then here's a link to some photos.
Caveat: viewing not advisable for the weak of heart.

 

If anyone wants to be on a list for something you need, lemme know and I'll
forward your request.   If the Land Rover guy consents I could be able to
provide a direct link.  There are also engine blocks and other such under
cover from the weather .. but I'd guess they're in similar condition.   The
pile includes TD, MGA and MGB carcasses.

 

So here's the photo link:
https://picasaweb.google.com/106832675429416680765/October30201202?authuser=
0
<https://picasaweb.google.com/106832675429416680765/October30201202?authuser
=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCOG8xc7AxbX2Xg&feat=directlink>
&authkey=Gv1sRgCOG8xc7AxbX2Xg&feat=directlink

 

Gerry

 

G. Mugele

mewgull@mugele.net

 

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