Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB windshield replacement near me

From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:50:20 -0400 (EDT)

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Ok, it may not be impossible to do this solo, but maybe it's best to look a=
t whether it's a sensible idea, and I am coming to the conclusion that it's=
 not a good idea for me to have a go at doing it by myself.=20

I might be able to do it, but I would need the assistance of a knowledgeabl=
e, experienced person. I would be doing more heavy lifting and following di=
rections.=20

Some of these things you mention, I don't have the equipment. Don't have th=
e tools.=20

"Saint-like patience" Did you lapse into a foreign language for a moment? A=
fraid I don't grasp that concept lol.=20

I guess the main idea here is that I don't want to do this. I would far rat=
her pay a professional to do it even if it might double the price just beca=
use they have equipment and know-how that I don't. Also, I don't want the r=
isk of causing a break or crack. If I can't take it somewhere, then at the =
least I need a helper who knows what they're doing and won't lead me astray=
 or make an amateur mistake. I'm willing to pay for that, too.=20

From: "Robert's New iPad" <[email-masked]>=20
To: [email-masked]=20
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2024 12:58:41 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB windshield replacement near me=20

It=E2=80=99s not impossible to do by oneself. Frustrating? Absolutely. But =
not impossible.=20
I think most go wrong, devolving into screaming, yelling and throwing thing=
s, is not planning it as a three-four day project with short days. It can b=
e a crazy-making job, so plan to take a day=E2=80=99s break when one of tho=
se unreasonable complications develops.=20
It=E2=80=99s essential to put penetrant onto the windscreen=E2=80=99s corne=
r screws several days before you undertake the project.Soak and tap and eve=
n a little heat will help.=20
When you extract them, put them into a map you drew on a piece of cardboard=
. They are of slightly different lengths. A long one in a hole intended for=
 short screw will give a splendid diagonal crack into the new glass.=20
Soap & water will work, but I think the product Ru-Glide works better. It c=
omes in gallons, of which you will use less than a quart. Use plenty as you=
 ease the rubbers into the channels.=20
Most agree that MacDonald=E2=80=99s rubber is better in fit than anyone els=
e=E2=80=99s. He=E2=80=99s not quick, though, as I am in ninth month of wait=
ing for a GT back glass rubber. Call him; if it=E2=80=99s in stock, he will=
 ship within a week. Worth the extra $$.=20
When you get the four large coarse-thread fasteners out from under the dash=
board, use a countersink to put a little taper to those holes. Clean the th=
reads with a tap & die, and you might even grind a wee taper onto the bolts=
. It=E2=80=99s difficult to feel and see at the same time; give yourself th=
is little advantage. If you get the forward two started, with a turn or two=
 on the threads, then you can use a rope or ratchet strap to pull the winds=
creen back slightly, compressing the rubber flap and aligning the rear hole=
s. It=E2=80=99s at this time you use a rope to pull that flap forward of th=
e windscreen. Ru-Glide helps here too. It=E2=80=99s messy.=20
Before socking up the four bolts, check alignment of back edge of windscree=
n to see that it is aligned with door vent windows as before disassembly. T=
here is a bit of wiggle-jiggle to the four bolts; here=E2=80=99s where it i=
s used.=20
They did this at Abingdon in a minute, but they didn=E2=80=99t have the das=
hboard in their way and their rubber was pliable.=20
Be of good cheer, with saint-like patience. They did it in 1974 and you can=
 do it sixty years later.=20
Bob=20

On Oct 14, 2024, at 11:35 AM, [email-masked] wrote:=20

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Hello everyone,=20

There's a chance I have asked this question before, and if so, I must apolo=
gize. If I have asked it before, it was likely before the pandemic, and tha=
t slowed everything down. I've also had a few deaths in the family that slo=
wed me down in other ways. But now I have time and money, so it's time for =
this long overdue task to be complete.=20

My 1974 MGB is in dire need of a new windshield. It's to the point that I s=
houldn't drive it at night or at times when I'm driving into the sunrise or=
 sunset.=20

I realize this is no one's favorite MGB repair task, and I know better than=
 to take it on by myself. Frankly, I would rather pay a knowledgeable perso=
n to do the job and not worry too much about it. I'm not involved with any =
clubs and while I do have a couple of "car guy" friends, this is outside of=
 what I could enlist them to help with. I'm kind of a "lone wolf" in this r=
egard, and most of the time, I don't mind. But then something like this com=
es up, and resources seem slim on the ground.=20

Gang, I'm sick and tired of not being able to drive my car, and this is a m=
ajor factor in what's keeping me from enjoying it. The brakes are great and=
 I have the engine running better than it has almost since I got it. But if=
 it's not safe to drive due to vision, then it just sits in the garage.=20

I live in the Chattanooga, Tennessee USA metro area, and know that none of =
the "chain store" glass places are going to be up for something like this. =
I'm not sure there's still a local glass shop around here or not. There is =
a shop not too far from here which specializes in British car work and rest=
oration, but they haven't returned my calls. I may try them again this week=
 now that the local show is over, but they may not want to do this kind of =
work.=20

This is doubly frustrating now that I have the money, but can't find someon=
e to do the work.=20

Any thoughts, or anyone nearby who knows the scene better than I do?=20

Thank you,=20
-Bill=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Ok, it may not be impossible to do this sol=
o, but maybe it's best to look at whether it's a sensible idea, and I am co=
ming to the conclusion that it's not a good idea for me to have a go at doi=
ng it by myself.&nbsp;</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I migh=
t be able to do it, but I would need the assistance of a knowledgeable, exp=
erienced person. I would be doing more heavy lifting and following directio=
ns.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Some of these things you =
mention, I don't have the equipment. Don't have the tools.&nbsp;</div><div>=
<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>"Saint-like patience" Did you lapse int=
o a foreign language for a moment? Afraid I don't grasp that concept lol.</=
div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I guess the main idea here is =
that I don't want to do this. I would far rather pay a professional to do i=
t even if it might double the price just because they have equipment and kn=
ow-how that I don't. Also, I don't want the risk of causing a break or crac=
k. If I can't take it somewhere, then at the least I need a helper who know=
s what they're doing and won't lead me astray or make an amateur mistake. I=
'm willing to pay for that, too.</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-=
marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Rober=
t's New iPad" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b>[email-masked]<b=
r><b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 14, 2024 12:58:41 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: =
[Mgs] MGB windshield replacement near me<br></div><div><br></div><div data-=
marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span cl=
ass=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=09</span>It=E2=80=99s not=
 impossible to do by oneself. &nbsp;Frustrating? Absolutely. But not imposs=
ible.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"w=
hite-space:pre">=09</span>I think most go wrong, devolving into screaming, =
yelling and throwing things, is not planning it as a three-four day project=
 with short days. &nbsp;It can be a crazy-making job, so plan to take a day=
=E2=80=99s break when one of those unreasonable complications develops.</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"=
>=09</span>It=E2=80=99s essential to put penetrant onto the windscreen=E2=
=80=99s corner screws several days before you undertake the project.Soak an=
d tap and even a little heat will help.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=
=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=09</span>When you extract th=
em, put them into a map you drew on a piece of cardboard. They are of sligh=
tly different lengths. A long one in a hole intended for short screw will g=
ive a splendid diagonal crack into the new glass.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=09</span>Soap =
&amp; water will work, but I think the product Ru-Glide works better. It co=
mes in gallons, of which you will use less than a quart. Use plenty as you =
ease the rubbers into the channels.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"Ap=
ple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=09</span>Most agree that MacDonald=
=E2=80=99s rubber is better in fit than anyone else=E2=80=99s. &nbsp;He=E2=
=80=99s not quick, though, as I am in ninth month of waiting for a GT back =
glass rubber. Call him; if it=E2=80=99s in stock, he will ship within a wee=
k. &nbsp;Worth the extra $$.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"App=
le-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=09</span>When you get the four larg=
e coarse-thread fasteners out from under the dashboard, use a countersink t=
o put a little taper to those holes. Clean the threads with a tap &amp; die=
, and you might even grind a wee taper onto the bolts. &nbsp; It=E2=80=99s =
difficult to feel and see at the same time; give yourself this little advan=
tage. &nbsp;If you get the forward two started, with a turn or two on the t=
hreads, then you can use a rope or ratchet strap to pull the windscreen bac=
k slightly, compressing the rubber flap and aligning the rear holes. &nbsp;=
It=E2=80=99s at this time you use a rope to pull that flap forward of the w=
indscreen. Ru-Glide helps here too. It=E2=80=99s messy.&nbsp;</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=09</span=
>Before socking up the four bolts, check alignment of back edge of windscre=
en to see that it is aligned with door vent windows as before disassembly. =
&nbsp;There is a bit of wiggle-jiggle to the four bolts; here=E2=80=99s whe=
re it is used.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" s=
tyle=3D"white-space:pre">=09</span>They did this at Abingdon in a minute, b=
ut they didn=E2=80=99t have the dashboard in their way and their rubber was=
 pliable.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"whi=
te-space:pre">=09</span>Be of good cheer, with saint-like patience. &nbsp;T=
hey did it in 1974 and you can do it sixty years later.</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Bob</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"Appl=
e-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=09</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><spa=
n class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=09</span></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">=09</sp=
an></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote>On Oct 14, 2024, at 11:35=E2=80=
=AFAM, [email-masked] wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif=
;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div><span style=3D"font-style:normal;font-w=
eight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-family=
:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubunt=
u' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px;b=
ackground-color:#fefefe;float:none;display:inline !important">Hello everyon=
e,</span><br style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:norm=
al;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;=
text-decoration:none;margin-top:0px;color:#141414;font-family:'segoe ui' , =
'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarel=
l' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px"><br style=3D"f=
ont-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text=
-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;co=
lor:#141414;font-family:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'robo=
to' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans=
-serif;font-size:15px"><span style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:400;let=
ter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;w=
ord-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-family:'segoe ui' ,=
 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantare=
ll' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px;background-col=
or:#fefefe;float:none;display:inline !important">There's a chance I have as=
ked this question before, and if so, I must apologize. If I have asked it b=
efore, it was likely before the pandemic, and that slowed everything down. =
I've also had a few deaths in the family that slowed me down in other ways.=
 But now I have time and money, so it's time for this long overdue task to =
be complete.</span><br style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-sp=
acing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-sp=
acing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-family:'segoe ui' , 'helv=
etica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarell' , =
'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px"><br style=3D"font-s=
tyle:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-tran=
sform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#=
141414;font-family:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' ,=
 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-seri=
f;font-size:15px"><span style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-s=
pacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-s=
pacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-family:'segoe ui' , 'hel=
vetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarell' ,=
 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px;background-color:#f=
efefe;float:none;display:inline !important">My 1974 MGB is in dire need of =
a new windshield. It's to the point that I shouldn't drive it at night or a=
t times when I'm driving into the sunrise or sunset.<span class=3D"Apple-co=
nverted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weig=
ht:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-spac=
e:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-family:'s=
egoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' =
, 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px"><br=
 style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-inde=
nt:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decorat=
ion:none;color:#141414;font-family:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helveti=
ca' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid s=
ans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px"><span style=3D"font-style:normal;font-wei=
ght:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-spa=
ce:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-family:'=
segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu'=
 , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px;bac=
kground-color:#fefefe;float:none;display:inline !important">I realize this =
is no one's favorite MGB repair task, and I know better than to take it on =
by myself. Frankly, I would rather pay a knowledgeable person to do the job=
 and not worry too much about it. I'm not involved with any clubs and while=
 I do have a couple of "car guy" friends, this is outside of what I could e=
nlist them to help with. I'm kind of a "lone wolf" in this regard, and most=
 of the time, I don't mind. But then something like this comes up, and reso=
urces seem slim on the ground.</span><br style=3D"font-style:normal;font-we=
ight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-sp=
ace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-family:=
'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu=
' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px"><=
br style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-in=
dent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decor=
ation:none;color:#141414;font-family:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helve=
tica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid=
 sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px"><span style=3D"font-style:normal;font-w=
eight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s=
pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-family=
:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubunt=
u' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px;b=
ackground-color:#fefefe;float:none;display:inline !important">Gang, I'm sic=
k and tired of not being able to drive my car, and this is a major factor i=
n what's keeping me from enjoying it. The brakes are great and I have the e=
ngine running better than it has almost since I got it. But if it's not saf=
e to drive due to vision, then it just sits in the garage.<span class=3D"Ap=
ple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br style=3D"font-style:normal;fon=
t-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-fam=
ily:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ub=
untu' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15p=
x"><br style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;tex=
t-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-d=
ecoration:none;color:#141414;font-family:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'h=
elvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'd=
roid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px"><span style=3D"font-style:normal;fo=
nt-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whi=
te-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-fa=
mily:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'u=
buntu' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15=
px;background-color:#fefefe;float:none;display:inline !important">I live in=
 the Chattanooga, Tennessee USA metro area, and know that none of the "chai=
n store" glass places are going to be up for something like this. I'm not s=
ure there's still a local glass shop around here or not. There is a shop no=
t too far from here which specializes in British car work and restoration, =
but they haven't returned my calls. I may try them again this week now that=
 the local show is over, but they may not want to do this kind of work.<spa=
n class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br style=3D"font-sty=
le:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transf=
orm:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#14=
1414;font-family:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , '=
oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;=
font-size:15px"><br style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spaci=
ng:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spaci=
ng:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-family:'segoe ui' , 'helveti=
ca neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarell' , 'fi=
ra sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px"><span style=3D"font-st=
yle:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-trans=
form:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#1=
41414;font-family:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , =
'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif=
;font-size:15px;background-color:#fefefe;float:none;display:inline !importa=
nt">This is doubly frustrating now that I have the money, but can't find so=
meone to do the work.</span><br style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:400;=
letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norma=
l;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-family:'segoe ui=
' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cant=
arell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px"><br style=
=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px=
;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:no=
ne;color:#141414;font-family:'segoe ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , =
'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'cantarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' ,=
 sans-serif;font-size:15px"><span style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:40=
0;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:nor=
mal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#141414;font-family:'segoe =
ui' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'roboto' , 'oxygen' , 'ubuntu' , 'ca=
ntarell' , 'fira sans' , 'droid sans' , sans-serif;font-size:15px;backgroun=
d-color:#fefefe;float:none;display:inline !important">Any thoughts, or anyo=
ne nearby who knows the scene better than I do?</span><br style=3D"font-sty=
le:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transf=
orm:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;color:#14=
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:33:13 +0100

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Additionally, the two dash centre screws are longer than they need to be 
so you can't get them out or back in with the screen fully in, they need 
to be started before it gets there.  One guess as to how I know this.  I 
cut them down - they should be pointed to pick up the captive nuts under 
the dash, got one just right and the other a bit short but a finger tip 
up from underneath lifted it just enough.  That was on an RHD though, 
may not be possible on an LHD.

There are two rubbers - the glazing rubber and the apron seal, both are 
a swine to get in when new, the apron seal wants to turn under all the 
time instead of laying flat - and that's after you have got it in the 
frame!  John Twist has a video showing this, but unless it is damaged 
leave the old one alone and reuse it. Pulling the frame together around 
the glass can be a real struggle.  Both done with lubricant - KY Jelly 
has been mentioned in the past ...

The sockets in the body for the frame legs have packing - a thick alloy 
piece and fibre piece as required, so that when slotted in they fit 
snugly and the frame does not move from side to side.  If there is a gap 
bolting up the legs can stress the glass.

The frame has quite a bit of fore and after and tilt movement with those 
four bolts in, you are aiming for the quarter-lights to just touch the 
seals on the frame uprights all the way up, not compress them anywhere, 
which can cause the Crack of Doom in the door skins.  There is a small 
screw between the two bolts, leave that in place holding the packing 
unless you need to alter it.

More here http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/screens.htm#sglass

Not surprised you don't want to tackle it yourself as a first-timer.

PaulH.

On 14/10/2024 18:50, [email-masked] wrote:
>
> I guess the main idea here is that I don't want to do this. I would 
> far rather pay a professional to do it even if it might double the 
> price just because they have equipment and know-how that I don't. 
> Also, I don't want the risk of causing a break or crack. If I can't 
> take it somewhere, then at the least I need a helper who knows what 
> they're doing and won't lead me astray or make an amateur mistake. I'm 
> willing to pay for that, too.
>
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    <p>Additionally, the two dash centre screws are longer than they
      need to be so you can't get them out or back in with the screen
      fully in, they need to be started before it gets there.  One guess
      as to how I know this.  I cut them down - they should be pointed
      to pick up the captive nuts under the dash, got one just right and
      the other a bit short but a finger tip up from underneath lifted
      it just enough.  That was on an RHD though, may not be possible on
      an LHD.</p>
    <p>There are two rubbers - the glazing rubber and the apron seal,
      both are a swine to get in when new, the apron seal wants to turn
      under all the time instead of laying flat - and that's after you
      have got it in the frame!  John Twist has a video showing this,
      but unless it is damaged leave the old one alone and reuse it. 
      Pulling the frame together around the glass can be a real
      struggle.  Both done with lubricant - KY Jelly has been mentioned
      in the past ...<br>
    </p>
    <p>The sockets in the body for the frame legs have packing - a thick
      alloy piece and fibre piece as required, so that when slotted in
      they fit snugly and the frame does not move from side to side.  If
      there is a gap bolting up the legs can stress the glass.</p>
    <p>The frame has quite a bit of fore and after and tilt movement
      with those four bolts in, you are aiming for the quarter-lights to
      just touch the seals on the frame uprights all the way up, not
      compress them anywhere, which can cause the Crack of Doom in the
      door skins.  There is a small screw between the two bolts, leave
      that in place holding the packing unless you need to alter it.</p>
    <p>More here <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/screens.htm#sglass">http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/screens.htm#sglass</a></p>
    <p>Not surprised you don't want to tackle it yourself as a
      first-timer.</p>
    <p>PaulH.<br>
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          I would far rather pay a professional to do it even if it
          might double the price just because they have equipment and
          know-how that I don't. Also, I don't want the risk of causing
          a break or crack. If I can't take it somewhere, then at the
          least I need a helper who knows what they're doing and won't
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From: larry Colen <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:02:38 -0700

I pulled and installed the windshield on the Cortina I raced, some long 
time readers of SOL may remember stories of foocar.  It was fairly 
simple.  When I had the windshield in my MGB-GT replaced, the 
professional had quite the struggle.

BTW, if you have comprehensive insurance on your car, it may well cover 
windshield replacement.

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On 2024-10-14 10:50, [email-masked] wrote:
> Ok, it may not be impossible to do this solo, but maybe it's best to
> look at whether it's a sensible idea, and I am coming to the
> conclusion that it's not a good idea for me to have a go at doing it
> by myself.
> 
> I might be able to do it, but I would need the assistance of a
> knowledgeable, experienced person. I would be doing more heavy lifting
> and following directions.
> 
> Some of these things you mention, I don't have the equipment. Don't
> have the tools.
> 
> "Saint-like patience" Did you lapse into a foreign language for a
> moment? Afraid I don't grasp that concept lol.
> 
> -------------------------
> 
> From: "Robert's New iPad" <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2024 12:58:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB windshield replacement near me
> 
>  It’s not impossible to do by oneself.  Frustrating? Absolutely. But
> not impossible.
>  I think most go wrong, devolving into screaming, yelling and throwing
> things, is not planning it as a three-four day project with short
> days.  It can be a crazy-making job, so plan to take a day’s break
> when one of those unreasonable complications develops.
>  It’s essential to put penetrant onto the windscreen’s corner
> screws several days before you undertake the project.Soak and tap and
> even a little heat will help.
>  When you extract them, put them into a map you drew on a piece of
> cardboard. They are of slightly different lengths. A long one in a
> hole intended for short screw will give a splendid diagonal crack into
> the new glass.
>  Soap & water will work, but I think the product Ru-Glide works
> better. It comes in gallons, of which you will use less than a quart.
> Use plenty as you ease the rubbers into the channels.
>  Most agree that MacDonald’s rubber is better in fit than anyone
> else’s.  He’s not quick, though, as I am in ninth month of waiting
> for a GT back glass rubber. Call him; if it’s in stock, he will ship
> within a week.  Worth the extra $$.
>  When you get the four large coarse-thread fasteners out from under
> the dashboard, use a countersink to put a little taper to those holes.
> Clean the threads with a tap & die, and you might even grind a wee
> taper onto the bolts.   It’s difficult to feel and see at the same
> time; give yourself this little advantage.  If you get the forward two
> started, with a turn or two on the threads, then you can use a rope or
> ratchet strap to pull the windscreen back slightly, compressing the
> rubber flap and aligning the rear holes.  It’s at this time you use
> a rope to pull that flap forward of the windscreen. Ru-Glide helps
> here too. It’s messy.
>  Before socking up the four bolts, check alignment of back edge of
> windscreen to see that it is aligned with door vent windows as before
> disassembly.  There is a bit of wiggle-jiggle to the four bolts;
> here’s where it is used.
>  They did this at Abingdon in a minute, but they didn’t have the
> dashboard in their way and their rubber was pliable.
>  Be of good cheer, with saint-like patience.  They did it in 1974 and
> you can do it sixty years later.
> Bob
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2024, at 11:35 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> There's a chance I have asked this question before, and if so, I
>> must apologize. If I have asked it before, it was likely before the
>> pandemic, and that slowed everything down. I've also had a few
>> deaths in the family that slowed me down in other ways. But now I
>> have time and money, so it's time for this long overdue task to be
>> complete.
>> 
>> My 1974 MGB is in dire need of a new windshield. It's to the point
>> that I shouldn't drive it at night or at times when I'm driving into
>> the sunrise or sunset.
>> 
>> I realize this is no one's favorite MGB repair task, and I know
>> better than to take it on by myself. Frankly, I would rather pay a
>> knowledgeable person to do the job and not worry too much about it.
>> I'm not involved with any clubs and while I do have a couple of "car
>> guy" friends, this is outside of what I could enlist them to help
>> with. I'm kind of a "lone wolf" in this regard, and most of the
>> time, I don't mind. But then something like this comes up, and
>> resources seem slim on the ground.
>> 
>> Gang, I'm sick and tired of not being able to drive my car, and this
>> is a major factor in what's keeping me from enjoying it. The brakes
>> are great and I have the engine running better than it has almost
>> since I got it. But if it's not safe to drive due to vision, then it
>> just sits in the garage.
>> 
>> I live in the Chattanooga, Tennessee USA metro area, and know that
>> none of the "chain store" glass places are going to be up for
>> something like this. I'm not sure there's still a local glass shop
>> around here or not. There is a shop not too far from here which
>> specializes in British car work and restoration, but they haven't
>> returned my calls. I may try them again this week now that the local
>> show is over, but they may not want to do this kind of work.
>> 
>> This is doubly frustrating now that I have the money, but can't find
>> someone to do the work.
>> 
>> Any thoughts, or anyone nearby who knows the scene better than I do?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> -Bill
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