Subject: [Mgs] DGV throttle setup

From: Paul Root <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:18:40 -0500

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My 1977 has been running great this year. I attribute it to using Sea Foam
instead of (old) Stabil. That's a good thing especially for this year. My
car has been a city car for the last 15+ years. But we decided to move this
year, and had a 60 mile move to drive it. I had worried, since I haven't
taken the car on any trips so really didn't know what it would do on drives
more than 20-30 minutes.  Other than being on the freeway at 70 with
today's barely conscious drivers, there was nothing to worry about.

Anyway, a week or two back, my throttle cable broke. It has happened
before, the connecting nut cuts into the cable a bit.   I had enough slack
to move the connector up a few holes on the lever, and adjust the sleeve
all the way in, to get home.   Next day, I went to a bike shop and got a
new brake cable to replace.

I also ordered a 75-76 throttle cable from Moss. That's the one with a
metal connector on the end. I'm thinking that would make a better
connection. Still looking at it.

However, the big issue I'm having is that the brake booster hose connects
to the port on the intake manifold right next to the throttle lever. And
the bolt assembly can rub up against it and catch. Making a basically wide
open throttle stuck.

I have seen pictures of the DGV swapped 180 degrees so the throttle is in
the front of the engine, and the cable would route the other way. Has
anyone done this? How does it work? I have a manual choke, which might be
an issue.

On a side note, I got my newly recovered (Mr Mike's upholstery) Miata seats
(with embroidered MG logos)  installed with new mounting rails (Crate
Parts). They are so wonderful. Not a paid endorser, just a happy customer.
But now it shows how badly I need new carpet.

thanks,
Paul.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">My 1977 has been running great this year. I attribute it t=
o using Sea Foam instead of (old) Stabil. That&#39;s a good thing especiall=
y for this year. My car has been a city car for the last 15+ years. But we =
decided to move this year, and had a 60 mile move to drive it. I had worrie=
d, since I haven&#39;t taken the car on any trips so really didn&#39;t know=
 what it would do on drives more than 20-30 minutes.=C2=A0 Other than being=
 on the freeway at 70 with today&#39;s barely conscious=C2=A0drivers, there=
 was nothing to worry about.<div><br></div><div>Anyway, a week or two back,=
 my throttle cable broke. It has happened before, the connecting nut cuts i=
nto the cable a bit.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I had enough slack to move the connector u=
p a few holes on the lever, and adjust the sleeve all the way in, to get ho=
me.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Next day, I went to a bike shop and got a new brake cable t=
o replace.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I also ordered a 75-76 throttle c=
able from Moss. That&#39;s the one with a metal connector on the end. I&#39=
;m thinking that would make a better connection. Still looking at it.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>However, the big issue I&#39;m having is that the brake=
 booster hose connects to the port on the intake manifold right next to the=
 throttle lever. And the bolt assembly can rub up against it and catch. Mak=
ing a basically wide open throttle stuck.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I =
have seen pictures of the DGV swapped 180 degrees so the throttle is in the=
 front of the engine, and the cable would route the other way. Has anyone d=
one this? How does it work? I have a manual choke, which might be an issue.=
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On a side note, I got my newly rec=
overed (Mr Mike&#39;s upholstery) Miata seats (with embroidered=C2=A0MG log=
os)=C2=A0 installed with new mounting rails (Crate Parts). They are so wond=
erful. Not a paid endorser, just a happy customer.=C2=A0 But now it shows h=
ow badly I need new carpet.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>thanks,</div><di=
v>Paul.</div></div>

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From: Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:53:49 -0700

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You should not use Seafoam in your MG.  It was originally formulated for
marine 2 stroke engines to get the carbon out.  It is not compatible with 4
stoke engines no matter what the manufacturer says.  Better to use nitrogen
based fuel system cleaners like Techron and such.  Seafoam does not
stabilize the fuel for lengthy periods.  Ethanol makes it very difficult to
keep gas volatile for more than 6 months at the most.  In most cases it
goes bad in 3 months and leaves a gummy residue in your carb.  Try to find
a stabilizer that deals with the ethanol.  By the way, you probably did not
harm your engine with the Seafoam, but I would not continue to use it.
Just my opinion.
Mike MacLean
69 MGB GT
60 Bugeye
56 BN2 LeMans

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>You should not use Seafoam in your MG.=C2=A0 It was o=
riginally formulated for marine 2 stroke engines to get the carbon out.=C2=
=A0 It is not compatible with 4 stoke engines no matter what the manufactur=
er says.=C2=A0 Better to use nitrogen based fuel system cleaners like Techr=
on and such.=C2=A0 Seafoam does not stabilize the fuel for lengthy periods.=
=C2=A0 Ethanol makes it very difficult to keep gas volatile for more than 6=
 months at the most.=C2=A0 In most cases it goes bad in 3 months and leaves=
 a gummy residue in your carb.=C2=A0 Try to find a stabilizer that deals wi=
th the ethanol.=C2=A0 By the way, you probably did not harm your engine wit=
h the Seafoam, but I would not continue to use it.=C2=A0 Just my opinion.</=
div><div>Mike MacLean</div><div>69 MGB GT</div><div>60 Bugeye</div><div>56 =
BN2 LeMans<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 9:19 AM Paul Root &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">My 1977 has b=
een running great this year. I attribute it to using Sea Foam instead of (o=
ld) Stabil. That&#39;s a good thing especially for this year. My car has be=
en a city car for the last 15+ years. But we decided to move this year, and=
 had a 60 mile move to drive it. I had worried, since I haven&#39;t taken t=
he car on any trips so really didn&#39;t know what it would do on drives mo=
re than 20-30 minutes.=C2=A0 Other than being on the freeway at 70 with tod=
ay&#39;s barely conscious=C2=A0drivers, there was nothing to worry about.<d=
iv><br></div><div>Anyway, a week or two back, my throttle cable broke. It h=
as happened before, the connecting nut cuts into the cable a bit.=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0I had enough slack to move the connector up a few holes on the lever, an=
d adjust the sleeve all the way in, to get home.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Next day, I we=
nt to a bike shop and got a new brake cable to replace.=C2=A0</div><div><br=
></div><div>I also ordered a 75-76 throttle cable from Moss. That&#39;s the=
 one with a metal connector on the end. I&#39;m thinking that would make a =
better connection. Still looking at it.</div><div><br></div><div>However, t=
he big issue I&#39;m having is that the brake booster hose connects to the =
port on the intake manifold right next to the throttle lever. And the bolt =
assembly can rub up against it and catch. Making a basically wide open thro=
ttle stuck.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I have seen pictures of the DGV =
swapped 180 degrees so the throttle is in the front of the engine, and the =
cable would route the other way. Has anyone done this? How does it work? I =
have a manual choke, which might be an issue.</div><div><br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>On a side note, I got my newly recovered (Mr Mike&#39;s upholste=
ry) Miata seats (with embroidered=C2=A0MG logos)=C2=A0 installed with new m=
ounting rails (Crate Parts). They are so wonderful. Not a paid endorser, ju=
st a happy customer.=C2=A0 But now it shows how badly I need new carpet.=C2=
=A0</div><div><br></div><div>thanks,</div><div>Paul.</div></div>
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