Subject: [Mgs] Coughing, spitting, and dying

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Have an 80 MGB V8 conversion that has developed a problem I can't get my
hands around. When cold it coughs and sputters when first starting up and
when warm will not run at idle without stalling after several minutes.
Thinking it might be an electrical issue, I replaced the plugs, plug wires,
distributor cap, coil, and battery. It has a PerTronix Ignitor module
installed which I did not replace. The battery shows 12.7 volts on my meter.
The alternator is producing 14.6 volts at ~1500 RPMs and 14.3 under load.
Fuel is fed to an Edelbrock 1404 carburetor via a Facet electric pump with
new filters in the line at the pump and just before the carburetor. I use 93
octane non-ethanol gas. I appreciate any thoughts or suggestions you may
have.

Jim Ray

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e an 80 MGB V8 conversion that has developed a problem I can&#8217;t get =
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and when warm will not run at idle without stalling after several =
minutes. Thinking it might be an electrical issue, I replaced the plugs, =
plug wires, distributor cap, coil, and battery. It has a PerTronix =
Ignitor module installed which I did not replace. The battery shows 12.7 =
volts on my meter. The alternator is producing 14.6 volts at ~1500 RPMs =
and 14.3 under load. Fuel is fed to an Edelbrock 1404 carburetor via a =
Facet electric pump with new filters in the line at the pump and just =
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Sounds like a fuel problem.  The Edelbrock 1404 is a simple carburetor to wo=
rk on as it is a copy of the Carter AFB carb used since the 60=E2=80=99s.  I=
s your choke set properly when cold and hot?   The AFB used a mechanical fue=
l pump- make sure that facet pump you=E2=80=99re using has the correct fuel p=
ressure for the AFB.  Also check your vacuum.  Is the vacuum reading steady o=
r is the gauge needle fluctuating back and forth?   You may have a vacuum le=
ak affecting fuel mixture.  When the engine is cold and the choke is on you h=
ave a rich mixture allowing the engine to run poorly.  Once the choke opens t=
he mixture goes lean due to the vacuum leak possibly leading to your motor s=
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>>> Have an 80 MGB V8 conversion that has developed a problem I can=E2=80=99=
t get my hands around. When cold it coughs and sputters when first starting u=
p and when warm will not run at idle without stalling after several minutes.=
 Thinking it might be an electrical issue, I replaced the plugs, plug wires,=
 distributor cap, coil, and battery. It has a PerTronix Ignitor module insta=
lled which I did not replace. The battery shows 12.7 volts on my meter. The a=
lternator is producing 14.6 volts at ~1500 RPMs and 14.3 under load. Fuel is=
 fed to an Edelbrock 1404 carburetor via a Facet electric pump with new filt=
ers in the line at the pump and just before the carburetor. I use 93 octane n=
on-ethanol gas. I appreciate any thoughts or suggestions you may have.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Sounds like a fuel problem. &nbsp;The Edelb=
rock 1404 is a simple carburetor to work on as it is a copy of the Carter AFB=
 carb used since the 60=E2=80=99s. &nbsp;Is your choke set properly when col=
d and hot? &nbsp; The AFB used a mechanical fuel pump- make sure that facet p=
ump you=E2=80=99re using has the correct fuel pressure for the AFB. &nbsp;Al=
so check your vacuum. &nbsp;Is the vacuum reading steady or is the gauge nee=
dle fluctuating back and forth? &nbsp; You may have a vacuum leak affecting f=
uel mixture. &nbsp;When the engine is cold and the choke is on you have a ri=
ch mixture allowing the engine to run poorly. &nbsp;Once the choke opens the=
 mixture goes lean due to the vacuum leak possibly leading to your motor sta=
lling. &nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone&nbsp;</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Apr 23, 2022, at 11:10 PM, Robert=
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Coughs, spits, dies - sounds like Covid to me.<br class=3D"">
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Have an 80 MGB V8 conversion that has developed a problem I can=E2=80=99t ge=
t my hands around. When cold it coughs and sputters when first starting up a=
nd when warm will not run at idle without
 stalling after several minutes. Thinking it might be an electrical issue, I=
 replaced the plugs, plug wires, distributor cap, coil, and battery. It has a=
 PerTronix Ignitor module installed which I did not replace. The battery sho=
ws 12.7 volts on my meter. The
 alternator is producing 14.6 volts at ~1500 RPMs and 14.3 under load. Fuel i=
s fed to an Edelbrock 1404 carburetor via a Facet electric pump with new fil=
ters in the line at the pump and just before the carburetor. I use 93 octane=
 non-ethanol gas. I appreciate
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