Subject: Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals

From: PaulHunt73 <[email-masked]> MnbbrCQ1czcY4fG+quVfW2MiMa0WEiH/kOSLLuHWWutMmcvB5zp/h723zSA2u5Rp5V/YF3BitWrtp2eDr159tqSWUKipAWOjJKs=
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 10:23:16 +0100

Normally if the bulbs don't light the flasher unit won't click, and one 
of the common failure modes is the other way round i.e. they light but 
don't flash and there is no clicking.  One click or clicking on and off 
as if the flashers should be working?

Do you have a non-standard flasher unit?  I'm assuming so if you have 
LED flasher 'bulbs' at the rear as the standard and even the modern 
3-wire units won't work with those without additional resistors.   Are 
the dash tell-tales lighting or flashing?  If you have a flasher unit 
capable of working with LED bulbs there are many types of those and they 
can cause all sorts of problems.

Your best bet is to bridge the green and light-green/brown wires at the 
flasher unit and see if the corners light then.  They won't flash but it 
will at least let you check the circuits out to the corners of the car 
and fix any faults with those.

PaulH.

On 17/04/2022 03:23, Michael MacLean wrote:
> Last week the turn signals in the 69 MGB GT just stopped working.  I 
> have replaced the flasher unit.  I know it is getting power because it 
> audibly makes a clicking sound when I flip the turn signal stalk.  I 
> checked the fuses, both are good.  I checked the incandescent bulbs in 
> the front and they were OK.  The rear turn signals are LED and quite 
> new.  I'm kind of at a loss here.  They were working when I stopped 
> the car at the dog park and the just weren't working when I started 
> the car back up.  Anything else I can check here?
> Mike MacLean
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From: Robert's New iPad <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 07:28:45 -0400

A dog saboteur, perhaps? 
	I would start at the basics, cleaning bulb contacts and ensuring that power is getting to each filament.   Check that the earth wires, if present, are earthing.
	Then review the connections of wires to the fuses, and test each fuse is good by measuring power through it.  It’s possible to seem OK with ohmmeter yet have insufficient current to light the lights.  
Bob

> On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael MacLean <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Last week the turn signals in the 69 MGB GT just stopped working.  I have replaced the flasher unit.  I know it is getting power because it audibly makes a clicking sound when I flip the turn signal stalk.  I checked the fuses, both are good.  I checked the incandescent bulbs in the front and they were OK.  The rear turn signals are LED and quite new.  I'm kind of at a loss here.  They were working when I stopped the car at the dog park and the just weren't working when I started the car back up.  Anything else I can check here?
> Mike MacLean
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I very much appreciate the help from the list with my turn signal problem.
This is to let you know, I think I know what the problem is.  After looking
at the wiring diagram in Rick Astley's book (MGB Electrical Systems) I
noticed the turn signals are wired through the hazard switch.  Just before
the turn signals quit I was showing a friend the dash.  I was showing him
what switches worked and which didn't.   One of the switches that has never
worked was the hazard switch.  I clicked it back and forth to show him.
Right after that the turn signals quit.  Until I looked at the wiring
diagram I did not put it together.  I just went out to the car to see if I
rocked the switch back and forth maybe the turn signals would start
working.  Instead the switch broke internally and refused to move.   It
lasted 52 years.  No complaints.  I have ordered a new switch from Moss.
We'll see if that fixes it.  I might even get hazard flashers out of it too=
.
Mike MacLean

On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 4:32 AM Robert's New iPad <[email-masked]> wrote:

>         A dog saboteur, perhaps?
>         I would start at the basics, cleaning bulb contacts and ensuring
> that power is getting to each filament.   Check that the earth wires, if
> present, are earthing.
>         Then review the connections of wires to the fuses, and test each
> fuse is good by measuring power through it.  It=E2=80=99s possible to see=
m OK with
> ohmmeter yet have insufficient current to light the lights.
> Bob
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael MacLean <[email-masked]=
m>
> wrote:
> checked the fuses, both are good.  I checked the incandescent bulbs in th=
e
> front and they were OK.  The rear turn signals are LED and quite new.  I'=
m
> kind of at a loss here.  They were working when I stopped the car at the
> dog park and the just weren't working when I started the car back up.
> Anything else I can check here?
> > Mike MacLean
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archiv=
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<div dir=3D"auto">I very much appreciate the help from the list with my tur=
n signal problem.=C2=A0 This is to let you know, I think I know what the pr=
oblem is.=C2=A0 After looking at the wiring diagram in Rick Astley&#39;s bo=
ok (MGB Electrical Systems) I noticed the turn signals are wired through th=
e hazard switch.=C2=A0 Just before the turn signals quit I was showing a fr=
iend the dash.=C2=A0 I was showing him what switches worked and which didn&=
#39;t.=C2=A0 =C2=A0One of the switches that has never worked was the hazard=
 switch.=C2=A0 I clicked it back and forth to show him.=C2=A0 Right after t=
hat the turn signals quit.=C2=A0 Until I looked at the wiring diagram I did=
 not put it together.=C2=A0 I just went out to the car to see if I rocked t=
he switch back and forth maybe the turn signals would start working.=C2=A0 =
Instead the switch broke internally and refused to move.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It las=
ted 52 years.=C2=A0 No complaints.=C2=A0 I have ordered a new switch from M=
oss.=C2=A0 We&#39;ll see if that fixes it.=C2=A0 I might even get hazard fl=
ashers out of it too.<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 17, 20=
22, 4:32 AM Robert&#39;s New iPad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">m=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A dog saboteur, perhaps? <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I would start at the basics, cleaning bulb cont=
acts and ensuring that power is getting to each filament.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Check=
 that the earth wires, if present, are earthing.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Then review the connections of wires to the fus=
es, and test each fuse is good by measuring power through it.=C2=A0 It=E2=
=80=99s possible to seem OK with ohmmeter yet have insufficient current to =
light the lights.=C2=A0 <br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sp=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">springer.mike=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Last week the turn signals in the 69 MGB GT just stopped working.=C2=
=A0 I have replaced the flasher unit.=C2=A0 I know it is getting power beca=
use it audibly makes a clicking sound when I flip the turn signal stalk.=C2=
=A0 I checked the fuses, both are good.=C2=A0 I checked the incandescent bu=
lbs in the front and they were OK.=C2=A0 The rear turn signals are LED and =
quite new.=C2=A0 I&#39;m kind of at a loss here.=C2=A0 They were working wh=
en I stopped the car at the dog park and the just weren&#39;t working when =
I started the car back up.=C2=A0 Anything else I can check here?<br>
&gt; Mike MacLean<br>
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The hazard switch in my 1971 BGT has been causing this issue from time to t=
ime.

Flipping this hazard switch several times helped to cure this till now. 

Cheers,

Hans

71 BGT

Van: Mgs <[email-masked]> Namens Michael MacLean
Verzonden: Monday, 18 April 2022 02:31
Aan: Robert's New iPad <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals

I very much appreciate the help from the list with my turn signal problem. =
 This is to let you know, I think I know what the problem is.  After lookin=
g at the wiring diagram in Rick Astley's book (MGB Electrical Systems) I no=
ticed the turn signals are wired through the hazard switch.  Just before th=
e turn signals quit I was showing a friend the dash.  I was showing him wha=
t switches worked and which didn't.   One of the switches that has never wo=
rked was the hazard switch.  I clicked it back and forth to show him.  Righ=
t after that the turn signals quit.  Until I looked at the wiring diagram I=
 did not put it together.  I just went out to the car to see if I rocked th=
e switch back and forth maybe the turn signals would start working.  Instea=
d the switch broke internally and refused to move.   It lasted 52 years.  N=
o complaints.  I have ordered a new switch from Moss.  We'll see if that fi=
xes it.  I might even get hazard flashers out of it too.

Mike MacLean

[email-masked]> > wrote:

        A dog saboteur, perhaps? 
        I would start at the basics, cleaning bulb contacts and ensuring th=
at power is getting to each filament.   Check that the earth wires, if pres=
ent, are earthing.
        Then review the connections of wires to the fuses, and test each fu=
se is good by measuring power through it.  It=E2=80=99s possible to seem OK=
 with ohmmeter yet have insufficient current to light the lights.  
Bob

> On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael MacLean <[email-masked] =
> 
> Last week the turn signals in the 69 MGB GT just stopped working.  I have=
 replaced the flasher unit.  I know it is getting power because it audibly =
makes a clicking sound when I flip the turn signal stalk.  I checked the fu=
ses, both are good.  I checked the incandescent bulbs in the front and they=
 were OK.  The rear turn signals are LED and quite new.  I'm kind of at a l=
oss here.  They were working when I stopped the car at the dog park and the=
 just weren't working when I started the car back up.  Anything else I can =
check here?

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n:</b> Mgs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>Namens </b>Michael MacLean=
<br><b>Verzonden:</b> Monday, 18 April 2022 02:31<br><b>Aan:</b> Robert's N=
ew iPad &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> R=
e: [Mgs] No Turn Signals<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I very much appreciate the help from =
the list with my turn signal problem.&nbsp; This is to let you know, I thin=
k I know what the problem is.&nbsp; After looking at the wiring diagram in =
Rick Astley's book (MGB Electrical Systems) I noticed the turn signals are =
wired through the hazard switch.&nbsp; Just before the turn signals quit I =
was showing a friend the dash.&nbsp; I was showing him what switches worked=
 and which didn't.&nbsp; &nbsp;One of the switches that has never worked wa=
s the hazard switch.&nbsp; I clicked it back and forth to show him.&nbsp; R=
ight after that the turn signals quit.&nbsp; Until I looked at the wiring d=
iagram I did not put it together.&nbsp; I just went out to the car to see i=
f I rocked the switch back and forth maybe the turn signals would start wor=
king.&nbsp; Instead the switch broke internally and refused to move.&nbsp; =
&nbsp;It lasted 52 years.&nbsp; No complaints.&nbsp; I have ordered a new s=
witch from Moss.&nbsp; We'll see if that fixes it.&nbsp; I might even get h=
azard flashers out of it too.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Mike =
MacLean<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p=
><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 4:32 AM Robert's New =
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p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; A dog saboteur, perhaps? <b=
r>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I would start at the basics, cleaning bulb co=
ntacts and ensuring that power is getting to each filament.&nbsp; &nbsp;Che=
ck that the earth wires, if present, are earthing.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; Then review the connections of wires to the fuses, and test each fus=
e is good by measuring power through it.&nbsp; It=E2=80=99s possible to see=
m OK with ohmmeter yet have insufficient current to light the lights.&nbsp;=
 <br>Bob<br><br><br>&gt; On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael MacLean &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">springer.mik=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Last week the turn signals in=
 the 69 MGB GT just stopped working.&nbsp; I have replaced the flasher unit=
=2E&nbsp; I know it is getting power because it audibly makes a clicking so=
und when I flip the turn signal stalk.&nbsp; I checked the fuses, both are =
good.&nbsp; I checked the incandescent bulbs in the front and they were OK.=
&nbsp; The rear turn signals are LED and quite new.&nbsp; I'm kind of at a =
loss here.&nbsp; They were working when I stopped the car at the dog park a=
nd the just weren't working when I started the car back up.&nbsp; Anything =
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Hans,
     I tried flipping the switch afew times, but on the second flip the
switch broke up internally in pieces and jammed the rocker switch.  Won't
move in any direction now.  Just received a replacement switch from Moss
today.  Unfortunately it is made in China.  Hope it lasts more than a year.
Mike MacLean

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 9:48 AM <[email-masked]> wrote:

> The hazard switch in my 1971 BGT has been causing this issue from time to
> time.
>
> *Van:* Mgs <[email-masked]> *Namens *Michael MacLean
> *Verzonden:* Monday, 18 April 2022 02:31
> *Aan:* Robert's New iPad <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals
>
>
>
> I very much appreciate the help from the list with my turn signal
> problem.  This is to let you know, I think I know what the problem is.
> After looking at the wiring diagram in Rick Astley's book (MGB Electrical
> Systems) I noticed the turn signals are wired through the hazard switch.
> Just before the turn signals quit I was showing a friend the dash.  I was
> showing him what switches worked and which didn't.   One of the switches
> that has never worked was the hazard switch.  I clicked it back and forth
> to show him.  Right after that the turn signals quit.  Until I looked at
> the wiring diagram I did not put it together.  I just went out to the car
> to see if I rocked the switch back and forth maybe the turn signals would
> start working.  Instead the switch broke internally and refused to move.
>  It lasted 52 years.  No complaints.  I have ordered a new switch from
> Moss.  We'll see if that fixes it.  I might even get hazard flashers out =
of
> it too.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hans,</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I tried flip=
ping the switch afew times, but on the second flip the switch broke up inte=
rnally in pieces and jammed the rocker switch.=C2=A0 Won&#39;t move in any =
direction now.=C2=A0 Just received a replacement switch from Moss today.=C2=
=A0 Unfortunately it is made in China.=C2=A0 Hope it lasts more than a year=
.</div><div>Mike MacLean<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 9:48 AM &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"over=
flow-wrap: break-word;" lang=3D"NL"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-5547941455497454=
13WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The hazard swit=
ch in my 1971 BGT has been causing this issue from time to time.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Flipping this haz=
ard switch several times helped to cure this till now. <u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hans<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">71 BGT<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p><div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;b=
order-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0cm =
0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounc=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>=
Namens </b>Michael MacLean<br><b>Verzonden:</b> Monday, 18 April 2022 02:31=
<br><b>Aan:</b> Robert&#39;s New iPad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re:=
 [Mgs] No Turn Signals<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I very much appreciate the he=
lp from the list with my turn signal problem.=C2=A0 This is to let you know=
, I think I know what the problem is.=C2=A0 After looking at the wiring dia=
gram in Rick Astley&#39;s book (MGB Electrical Systems) I noticed the turn =
signals are wired through the hazard switch.=C2=A0 Just before the turn sig=
nals quit I was showing a friend the dash.=C2=A0 I was showing him what swi=
tches worked and which didn&#39;t.=C2=A0 =C2=A0One of the switches that has=
 never worked was the hazard switch.=C2=A0 I clicked it back and forth to s=
how him.=C2=A0 Right after that the turn signals quit.=C2=A0 Until I looked=
 at the wiring diagram I did not put it together.=C2=A0 I just went out to =
the car to see if I rocked the switch back and forth maybe the turn signals=
 would start working.=C2=A0 Instead the switch broke internally and refused=
 to move.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It lasted 52 years.=C2=A0 No complaints.=C2=A0 I have=
 ordered a new switch from Moss.=C2=A0 We&#39;ll see if that fixes it.=C2=
=A0 I might even get hazard flashers out of it too.<u></u><u></u></p><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike MacLean<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun=
, Apr 17, 2022, 4:32 AM Robert&#39;s New iPad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u><=
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rhaps? <br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I would start at the basics, cleanin=
g bulb contacts and ensuring that power is getting to each filament.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0Check that the earth wires, if present, are earthing.<br>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Then review the connections of wires to the fuses, and te=
st each fuse is good by measuring power through it.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s poss=
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ghts.=C2=A0 <br>Bob<br><br><br>&gt; On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael M=
acLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">s=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Last week the turn=
 signals in the 69 MGB GT just stopped working.=C2=A0 I have replaced the f=
lasher unit.=C2=A0 I know it is getting power because it audibly makes a cl=
icking sound when I flip the turn signal stalk.=C2=A0 I checked the fuses, =
both are good.=C2=A0 I checked the incandescent bulbs in the front and they=
 were OK.=C2=A0 The rear turn signals are LED and quite new.=C2=A0 I&#39;m =
kind of at a loss here.=C2=A0 They were working when I stopped the car at t=
he dog park and the just weren&#39;t working when I started the car back up=
.=C2=A0 Anything else I can check here?<br>&gt; Mike MacLean<br>&gt; ______=
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Just to put an end to this thread, the turn signals work now.  I replaced
the hazard switch and like magic the turn signals started working again.
Added bonus, the hazard light work now too!  ( They never did since I have
owned this car over a year now)  I guess the switch was somewhat broken
from the start.  Just not broken enough to stop the turn signals. Woohoo!
Mike MacLean

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<div dir=3D"auto">Just to put an end to this thread, the turn signals work =
now.=C2=A0 I replaced the hazard switch and like magic the turn signals sta=
rted working again.=C2=A0 Added bonus, the hazard light work now too!=C2=A0=
 ( They never did since I have owned this car over a year now)=C2=A0 I gues=
s the switch was somewhat broken from the start.=C2=A0 Just not broken enou=
gh to stop the turn signals. Woohoo!<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Wed, Apr 20, 2022, 9:48 AM  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">h.=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div lang=3D"NL" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break-wo=
rd"><div class=3D"m_6355166685451725930WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The hazard switch in my 1971 BGT has been causing thi=
s issue from time to time.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-GB">Flipping this hazard switch several times helped to cur=
e this till now. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lan=
g=3D"EN-GB">Hans<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB">71 BGT<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-=
top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
b>Van:</b> Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>Namens </b=
>Michael MacLean<br><b>Verzonden:</b> Monday, 18 April 2022 02:31<br><b>Aan=
:</b> Robert&#39;s New iPad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
</a><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals<u></u><u></u></p></div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
I very much appreciate the help from the list with my turn signal problem.=
=C2=A0 This is to let you know, I think I know what the problem is.=C2=A0 A=
fter looking at the wiring diagram in Rick Astley&#39;s book (MGB Electrica=
l Systems) I noticed the turn signals are wired through the hazard switch.=
=C2=A0 Just before the turn signals quit I was showing a friend the dash.=
=C2=A0 I was showing him what switches worked and which didn&#39;t.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0One of the switches that has never worked was the hazard switch.=C2=
=A0 I clicked it back and forth to show him.=C2=A0 Right after that the tur=
n signals quit.=C2=A0 Until I looked at the wiring diagram I did not put it=
 together.=C2=A0 I just went out to the car to see if I rocked the switch b=
ack and forth maybe the turn signals would start working.=C2=A0 Instead the=
 switch broke internally and refused to move.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It lasted 52 year=
s.=C2=A0 No complaints.=C2=A0 I have ordered a new switch from Moss.=C2=A0 =
We&#39;ll see if that fixes it.=C2=A0 I might even get hazard flashers out =
of it too.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike MacLean<u></u>=
<u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div>=
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iPad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noref=
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 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 A dog saboteur, perhaps? <br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I w=
ould start at the basics, cleaning bulb contacts and ensuring that power is=
 getting to each filament.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Check that the earth wires, if prese=
nt, are earthing.<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Then review the connection=
s of wires to the fuses, and test each fuse is good by measuring power thro=
ugh it.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s possible to seem OK with ohmmeter yet have insuf=
ficient current to light the lights.=C2=A0 <br>Bob<br><br><br>&gt; On Apr 1=
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 just stopped working.=C2=A0 I have replaced the flasher unit.=C2=A0 I know=
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the turn signal stalk.=C2=A0 I checked the fuses, both are good.=C2=A0 I ch=
ecked the incandescent bulbs in the front and they were OK.=C2=A0 The rear =
turn signals are LED and quite new.=C2=A0 I&#39;m kind of at a loss here.=
=C2=A0 They were working when I stopped the car at the dog park and the jus=
t weren&#39;t working when I started the car back up.=C2=A0 Anything else I=
 can check here?<br>&gt; Mike MacLean<br>&gt; _____________________________=
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What a pity Mike.

Most times such a switch begins to give issues, it is either dirt contamina=
ted in the switch mechanism of lack of lubrication.

The hazard switch is hardly or impossible to dismantle without risk of brea=
king it down.

So I wish you luck with the Chinese variant. 

I have a Chinese variant of brake light switch installed last year.

I wonder how long that will last=E2=80=A6

I was able to dismantle the fan switch, which was rock solid in one positio=
n when I bought the car.

As that is a safety test failure this had to be fixed anyway.

Dismantling went well. Applied a little grease to the moving parts and it s=
till works after 24 years!

Beware for tiny bits falling out when dismantling the switch.

Cheers,

Hans 71 BGT

Van: Michael MacLean <[email-masked]> 
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Aan: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] No Turn Signals

Hans,

     I tried flipping the switch afew times, but on the second flip the swi=
tch broke up internally in pieces and jammed the rocker switch.  Won't move=
 in any direction now.  Just received a replacement switch from Moss today.=
  Unfortunately it is made in China.  Hope it lasts more than a year.

Mike MacLean

planet.nl> > wrote:

Cheers,

Hans

71 BGT

Namens Michael MacLean

Mike MacLean

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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What a pity =
Mike.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Most times such a switch begins to =
give issues, it is either dirt contaminated in the switch mechanism of =
lack of lubrication.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The hazard switch is =
hardly or impossible to dismantle without risk of breaking it =
down.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So I wish you luck with the Chinese =
variant. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have a Chinese variant of brake =
light switch installed last year.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I wonder how long that will =
last=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I was able to dismantle the fan =
switch, which was rock solid in one position when I bought the =
car.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As that is a safety test failure =
this had to be fixed anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dismantling went well. Applied a =
little grease to the moving parts and it still works after 24 =
years!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Beware for tiny bits falling out =
when dismantling the switch.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hans 71 BGT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>Van:</b> Michael MacLean =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Verzonden:</b> Thursday, 21 =
April 2022 00:58<br><b>Aan:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] No Turn =
Signals<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hans,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I tried flipping the switch =
afew times, but on the second flip the switch broke up internally in =
pieces and jammed the rocker switch.&nbsp; Won't move in any direction =
now.&nbsp; Just received a replacement switch from Moss today.&nbsp; =
Unfortunately it is made in China.&nbsp; Hope it lasts more than a =
year.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Mike =
MacLean<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 9:48 AM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>The hazard switch in my 1971 BGT has been causing this =
issue from time to time.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Flipping this hazard switch several times helped to cure =
this till now. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Hans</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>71 BGT</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Van:</b> =
Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>Namens =
</b>Michael MacLean<br><b>Verzonden:</b> Monday, 18 April 2022 =
02:31<br><b>Aan:</b> Robert's New iPad &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] =
No Turn Signals<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I very much =
appreciate the help from the list with my turn signal problem.&nbsp; =
This is to let you know, I think I know what the problem is.&nbsp; After =
looking at the wiring diagram in Rick Astley's book (MGB Electrical =
Systems) I noticed the turn signals are wired through the hazard =
switch.&nbsp; Just before the turn signals quit I was showing a friend =
the dash.&nbsp; I was showing him what switches worked and which =
didn't.&nbsp; &nbsp;One of the switches that has never worked was the =
hazard switch.&nbsp; I clicked it back and forth to show him.&nbsp; =
Right after that the turn signals quit.&nbsp; Until I looked at the =
wiring diagram I did not put it together.&nbsp; I just went out to the =
car to see if I rocked the switch back and forth maybe the turn signals =
would start working.&nbsp; Instead the switch broke internally and =
refused to move.&nbsp; &nbsp;It lasted 52 years.&nbsp; No =
complaints.&nbsp; I have ordered a new switch from Moss.&nbsp; We'll see =
if that fixes it.&nbsp; I might even get hazard flashers out of it =
too.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mike =
MacLean<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sun, Apr =
17, 2022, 4:32 AM Robert's New iPad &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm =
0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor =
rgb(204,204,204)'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; A dog saboteur, perhaps? <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; I would start at the basics, cleaning bulb contacts and ensuring =
that power is getting to each filament.&nbsp; &nbsp;Check that the earth =
wires, if present, are earthing.<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Then =
review the connections of wires to the fuses, and test each fuse is good =
by measuring power through it.&nbsp; It=E2=80=99s possible to seem OK =
with ohmmeter yet have insufficient current to light the lights.&nbsp; =
<br>Bob<br><br><br>&gt; On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Michael MacLean =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; =
<br>&gt; Last week the turn signals in the 69 MGB GT just stopped =
working.&nbsp; I have replaced the flasher unit.&nbsp; I know it is =
getting power because it audibly makes a clicking sound when I flip the =
turn signal stalk.&nbsp; I checked the fuses, both are good.&nbsp; I =
checked the incandescent bulbs in the front and they were OK.&nbsp; The =
rear turn signals are LED and quite new.&nbsp; I'm kind of at a loss =
here.&nbsp; They were working when I stopped the car at the dog park and =
the just weren't working when I started the car back up.&nbsp; Anything =
else I can check here?<br>&gt; Mike MacLean<br>&gt; =
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Doesn't have to be 'Chinese', Lucas green boxed items are no better 
unless you can get NOS.

Replacement hydraulic brake light switches have been bad for a long time 
now as internally they are completely different to the originals that 
had self-cleaning contacts.  When my roadster original failed after 
about 40 years the replacement lasted barely a year before the lights 
became intermittent and dim.  I got that replaced and have used a relay 
in the circuit ever since and no more problems.  Subsequently I fitted a 
mechanical switch to get the benefit of the lights coming on as soon as 
the pedal started moving instead of having to wait until pressure 
started building in the hydraulics.

However North American spec cars from Mk2 onwards used a mechanical 
switch on the pedal cover.  The only problem I've heard about with those 
is not being crimped together tightly enough and they spring apart, but 
only one report.  The contacts seem fine. RHD didn't get those until 
rubber bumpers, and my almost certainly original V8 item is still good 
(so far!) after nearly 50 years.

PaulH.

On 21/04/2022 10:27, [email-masked] wrote:
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    <p>Doesn't have to be 'Chinese', Lucas green boxed items are no
      better unless you can get NOS.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Replacement hydraulic brake light switches have been bad for a
      long time now as internally they are completely different to the
      originals that had self-cleaning contacts.  When my roadster
      original failed after about 40 years the replacement lasted barely
      a year before the lights became intermittent and dim.  I got that
      replaced and have used a relay in the circuit ever since and no
      more problems.  Subsequently I fitted a mechanical switch to get
      the benefit of the lights coming on as soon as the pedal started
      moving instead of having to wait until pressure started building
      in the hydraulics.</p>
    <p>However North American spec cars from Mk2 onwards used a
      mechanical switch on the pedal cover.  The only problem I've heard
      about with those is not being crimped together tightly enough and
      they spring apart, but only one report.  The contacts seem fine. 
      RHD didn't get those until rubber bumpers, and my almost certainly
      original V8 item is still good (so far!) after nearly 50 years.<br>
    </p>
    <p>PaulH.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/04/2022 10:27,
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          installed last year.<o:p></o:p></span>
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