Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 176, Issue 4

From: Joel Martin <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 22:22:49 +0000 (UTC)

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 I have been through 4 headlight switches in the last 2.25 years. =C2=A0The=
 quality is just so poor. =C2=A012 uses out of first one, 8 uses out of 2nd=
 one and the last one lasted 3 uses and gave out in the dark at the start o=
f a 1,283 mile trip over 6 days. =C2=A0I had to sit on the side of the road=
 and wait for the sun to come up. =C2=A0A buddy had a two position 50 year =
old Sunbeam light switch we installed hanging under the dash on the first d=
ay of the trip, whew.
1973 MGB, original owner with 234K miles and the original switch lasted 230=
k miles. =C2=A0Take your original switch apart and do everything you can to=
 retain it.
Never any smoke, the switch just gives up the ghost. =C2=A0Supper poor qual=
ity, mechanically.
Installed Halogen lamps from a buddy with Moss relays and 4th Moss switch. =
=C2=A0I have only used 3 times, so we will see if this works.
Good luck.

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=C2=A0 1. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (dave northrup)
=C2=A0 2. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (PaulHunt73)
=C2=A0 3. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (Robert's New iPad)
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Worked on the car a little today.=C2=A0 discovered that the blinkers do ind=
eed work so that=E2=80=99s good, and makes sense.=C2=A0
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 =C2=A0
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We have a battery cutoff switch on this car so I decided to try a few thing=
s.=C2=A0 I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.=C2=A0 I ca=
nnot get the light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.=C2=A0 Nex=
t step is to bypass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manuall=
y connect the wires.=20
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On 19/01/2022 02:32, dave northrup wrote:
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=C2=A0=20
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Swapped transmissions, car runs and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this af=
ternoon until on the way home I switched on the lights.
=20
=C2=A0
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Smoke from under the dash, I think on the passenger side but not positive. =
Turned the lights off, turned the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in =
engine compartment.=C2=A0 Back of light switch was hot but did not burn my =
finger.
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
 =20
In that case it sounds like it was an output from the light switch that sho=
rted.=C2=A0 Either the blue (headlights) or red/green (parking and instrume=
nt lights) is probably also damaged, which will indicate (pun not intended)=
 where to look next.
=20
Note that if the short caused enough damage inside the switch to open the c=
ircuit, and disconnect the short, manually reconnecting the wires will like=
ly bring it back on again.=C2=A0 With your cut-off switch on tap first one =
then the other of the wires mentioned above onto the brown and you should s=
oon see which has the short - if it's still present.
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PaulH.
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 On 23/01/2022 00:34, dave northrup wrote:
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 =C2=A0 I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.=C2=A0 I can=
not get the light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.=C2=A0 Next=
 step is to bypass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually=
 connect the wires.=20
 =C2=A0
 =20
=20
  Condition of the light switch does not sound encouraging, but you might r=
emove it from the dash, open it, and see if it can be cleaned and saved. Or=
iginal switches were good quality. At age 35 or so, my switch was warm to t=
ouch. I bought a new one. It was hot to touch. I opened and cleaned origina=
l, installed; =C2=A0it has been happy, and cool, ever since. =C2=A0Relays w=
ere installed later, but well after the old switch was back in service. =C2=
=A0 Good on you to have a battery cut-off switch. =C2=A0I am a believer. We=
 know the condition of wires where we can see them, but those we can not se=
e ......Bob
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On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:34 PM, dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:

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Worked on the car a little today.=C2=A0 discovered that the blinkers do ind=
eed work so that=E2=80=99s good, and makes sense.=C2=A0
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
We have a battery cutoff switch on this car so I decided to try a few thing=
s.=C2=A0 I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.=C2=A0 I ca=
nnot get the light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.=C2=A0 Nex=
t step is to bypass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manuall=
y connect the wires.=20
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 =C2=A0
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On 19/01/2022 02:32, dave northrup wrote:
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=C2=A0=20
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Swapped transmissions, car runs and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this af=
ternoon until on the way home I switched on the lights.
=20
=C2=A0
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Smoke from under the dash, I think on the passenger side but not positive. =
Turned the lights off, turned the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in =
engine compartment.=C2=A0 Back of light switch was hot but did not burn my =
finger.
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        <div>I have been through 4 headlight switches in the last 2.25 year=
s. &nbsp;The quality is just so poor. &nbsp;12 uses out of first one, 8 use=
s out of 2nd one and the last one lasted 3 uses and gave out in the dark at=
 the start of a 1,283 mile trip over 6 days. &nbsp;I had to sit on the side=
 of the road and wait for the sun to come up. &nbsp;A buddy had a two posit=
ion 50 year old Sunbeam light switch we installed hanging under the dash on=
 the first day of the trip, whew.</div><div><br></div><div>1973 MGB, origin=
al owner with 234K miles and the original switch lasted 230k miles. &nbsp;T=
ake your original switch apart and do everything you can to retain it.</div=
><div><br></div><div>Never any smoke, the switch just gives up the ghost. &=
nbsp;Supper poor quality, mechanically.</div><div><br></div><div>Installed =
Halogen lamps from a buddy with Moss relays and 4th Moss switch. &nbsp;I ha=
ve only used 3 times, so we will see if this works.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Good luck.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Worked on the car a little t=
oday.&nbsp; discovered that the blinkers do indeed work so that=E2=80=99s g=
ood, and makes sense.&nbsp;
</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">We have a battery cutoff swi=
tch on this car so I decided to try a few things.&nbsp; I noticed that the =
light switch no longer moves at all.&nbsp; I cannot get the light switch to=
 toggle at all so likely it is fried.&nbsp; Next step is to bypass the swit=
ch
 and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the wires. </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">On 19/01/2022 02:32, dave no=
rthrup wrote:</p>=20
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp; </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Swapped transmissions, car r=
uns and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this afternoon until on the way hom=
e I switched on the lights.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Smoke from under the dash, I=
 think on the passenger side but not positive. Turned the lights off, turne=
d the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in engine compartment.&nbsp; Ba=
ck of light switch was hot but did not burn my finger.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>

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    <p>In that case it sounds like it was an output from the light
      switch that shorted.&nbsp; Either the blue (headlights) or red/green
      (parking and instrument lights) is probably also damaged, which
      will indicate (pun not intended) where to look next.</p>
    <p>Note that if the short caused enough damage inside the switch to
      open the circuit, and disconnect the short, manually reconnecting
      the wires will likely bring it back on again.&nbsp; With your cut-off
      switch on tap first one then the other of the wires mentioned
      above onto the brown and you should soon see which has the short -
      if it's still present.<br>
    </p>
    <p>PaulH.<br>
    </p>
    <div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970moz-cite-prefix">On 23/01/2022 00=
:34, dave northrup
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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      <div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970WordSection1">&nbsp; I noticed =
that the light switch no
        longer moves at all.&nbsp; I cannot get the light switch to toggle =
at
        all so likely it is fried.&nbsp; Next step is to bypass the switch
        and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the wires.
       =20
        <p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
      </div>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
  </div>

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7983"><div id=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv=
0986361970Apple-tab-span">=09</span>Condition of the light switch does not =
sound encouraging, but you might remove it from the dash, open it, and see =
if it can be cleaned and saved. Original switches were good quality.</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"ydpc53a9a66=
yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span">=09</span>At age 35 or so, my switch was warm =
to touch. I bought a new one. It was hot to touch. I opened and cleaned ori=
ginal, installed; &nbsp;it has been happy, and cool, ever since. &nbsp;Rela=
ys were installed later, but well after the old switch was back in service.=
 &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap;" class=
=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span">=09</span>Good on you to have a=
 battery cut-off switch. &nbsp;I am a believer. We know the condition of wi=
res where we can see them, but those we can not see ......</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Bob</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"w=
hite-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span">=09=
</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:34 PM, dave northru=
p &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">

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<div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970WordSection1">
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Worked on the car a little t=
oday.&nbsp; discovered that the blinkers do indeed work so that=E2=80=99s g=
ood, and makes sense.&nbsp;
</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">We have a battery cutoff swi=
tch on this car so I decided to try a few things.&nbsp; I noticed that the =
light switch no longer moves at all.&nbsp; I cannot get the light switch to=
 toggle at all so likely it is fried.&nbsp; Next step is to bypass the swit=
ch
 and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the wires. </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">On 19/01/2022 02:32, dave no=
rthrup wrote:</p>=20
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp; </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Swapped transmissions, car r=
uns and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this afternoon until on the way hom=
e I switched on the lights.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Smoke from under the dash, I=
 think on the passenger side but not positive. Turned the lights off, turne=
d the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in engine compartment.&nbsp; Ba=
ck of light switch was hot but did not burn my finger.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
</blockquote>
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From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
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Update - used a wire with an inline fuse to test connections.   Parking lig=
hts work and headlights work in one position only.

The dipper switch on a 72 - is forward high or low?  Thats the one that wor=
ks

-------- Original message --------
From: Joel Martin <[email-masked]>
Date: 1/23/22 4:25 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 176, Issue 4

I have been through 4 headlight switches in the last 2.25 years.  The quali=
ty is just so poor.  12 uses out of first one, 8 uses out of 2nd one and th=
e last one lasted 3 uses and gave out in the dark at the start of a 1,283 m=
ile trip over 6 days.  I had to sit on the side of the road and wait for th=
e sun to come up.  A buddy had a two position 50 year old Sunbeam light swi=
tch we installed hanging under the dash on the first day of the trip, whew.

1973 MGB, original owner with 234K miles and the original switch lasted 230=
k miles.  Take your original switch apart and do everything you can to reta=
in it.

Never any smoke, the switch just gives up the ghost.  Supper poor quality, =
mechanically.

Installed Halogen lamps from a buddy with Moss relays and 4th Moss switch. =
 I have only used 3 times, so we will see if this works.

Good luck.

On Sunday, January 23, 2022, 02:00:17 PM EST, [email-masked] <m=
[email-masked]> wrote:

Today's Topics:

  1. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (dave northrup)
  2. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (PaulHunt73)
  3. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (Robert's New iPad)

Worked on the car a little today.  discovered that the blinkers do indeed w=
ork so that=92s good, and makes sense.

We have a battery cutoff switch on this car so I decided to try a few thing=
s.  I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.  I cannot get t=
he light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.  Next step is to by=
pass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the w=
ires.

Smoke from under the dash, I think on the passenger side but not positive. =
Turned the lights off, turned the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in =
engine compartment.  Back of light switch was hot but did not burn my finge=
r.

In that case it sounds like it was an output from the light switch that sho=
rted.  Either the blue (headlights) or red/green (parking and instrument li=
ghts) is probably also damaged, which will indicate (pun not intended) wher=
e to look next.

Note that if the short caused enough damage inside the switch to open the c=
ircuit, and disconnect the short, manually reconnecting the wires will like=
ly bring it back on again.  With your cut-off switch on tap first one then =
the other of the wires mentioned above onto the brown and you should soon s=
ee which has the short - if it's still present.

PaulH.

On 23/01/2022 00:34, dave northrup wrote:
  I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.  I cannot get the=
 light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.  Next step is to bypa=
ss the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the wir=
es.

Condition of the light switch does not sound encouraging, but you might rem=
ove it from the dash, open it, and see if it can be cleaned and saved. Orig=
inal switches were good quality.
At age 35 or so, my switch was warm to touch. I bought a new one. It was ho=
t to touch. I opened and cleaned original, installed;  it has been happy, a=
nd cool, ever since.  Relays were installed later, but well after the old s=
witch was back in service.
Good on you to have a battery cut-off switch.  I am a believer. We know the=
 condition of wires where we can see them, but those we can not see ......
Bob

nteer.com>> wrote:

Worked on the car a little today.  discovered that the blinkers do indeed w=
ork so that=92s good, and makes sense.

We have a battery cutoff switch on this car so I decided to try a few thing=
s.  I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.  I cannot get t=
he light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.  Next step is to by=
pass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the w=
ires.

Smoke from under the dash, I think on the passenger side but not positive. =
Turned the lights off, turned the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in =
engine compartment.  Back of light switch was hot but did not burn my finge=
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<div dir=3D"auto">The dipper switch on a 72 - is forward high or low?&nbsp;=
 Thats the one that works</div>
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: Joel Martin &lt;[email-masked]&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 1/23/22 4:25 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: [email-masked] </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 176, Issue 4 </div>
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<div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica N=
eue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:16px">
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<div>I have been through 4 headlight switches in the last 2.25 years. &nbsp=
;The quality is just so poor. &nbsp;12 uses out of first one, 8 uses out of=
 2nd one and the last one lasted 3 uses and gave out in the dark at the sta=
rt of a 1,283 mile trip over 6 days. &nbsp;I had
 to sit on the side of the road and wait for the sun to come up. &nbsp;A bu=
ddy had a two position 50 year old Sunbeam light switch we installed hangin=
g under the dash on the first day of the trip, whew.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1973 MGB, original owner with 234K miles and the original switch laste=
d 230k miles. &nbsp;Take your original switch apart and do everything you c=
an to retain it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Never any smoke, the switch just gives up the ghost. &nbsp;Supper poor=
 quality, mechanically.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Installed Halogen lamps from a buddy with Moss relays and 4th Moss swi=
tch. &nbsp;I have only used 3 times, so we will see if this works.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Good luck.</div>
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&nbsp; 1. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (dave northrup)<br>
&nbsp; 2. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (PaulHunt73)<br>
&nbsp; 3. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (Robert's New iPad)<br>
<div id=3D"ydpc53a9a66ymsg91642" class=3D"ydpc53a9a66ymsg8484487983">
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<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Worked on the car a little t=
oday.&nbsp; discovered that the blinkers do indeed work so that=92s good, a=
nd makes sense.&nbsp;
</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">We have a battery cutoff swi=
tch on this car so I decided to try a few things.&nbsp; I noticed that the =
light switch no longer moves at all.&nbsp; I cannot get the light switch to=
 toggle at all so likely it is fried.&nbsp; Next
 step is to bypass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually=
 connect the wires.
</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">On 19/01/2022 02:32, dave no=
rthrup wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt; margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp; </p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Swapped transmissions, car r=
uns and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this afternoon until on the way hom=
e I switched on the lights.</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Smoke from under the dash, I=
 think on the passenger side but not positive. Turned the lights off, turne=
d the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in engine compartment.&nbsp; Ba=
ck of light switch was hot but did not
 burn my finger.</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
</blockquote>
</div>
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<p>In that case it sounds like it was an output from the light switch that =
shorted.&nbsp; Either the blue (headlights) or red/green (parking and instr=
ument lights) is probably also damaged, which will indicate (pun not intend=
ed) where to look next.</p>
<p>Note that if the short caused enough damage inside the switch to open th=
e circuit, and disconnect the short, manually reconnecting the wires will l=
ikely bring it back on again.&nbsp; With your cut-off switch on tap first o=
ne then the other of the wires mentioned
 above onto the brown and you should soon see which has the short - if it's=
 still present.<br>
</p>
<p>PaulH.<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970moz-cite-prefix">On 23/01/2022 00:34,=
 dave northrup wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970WordSection1">&nbsp; I noticed that t=
he light switch no longer moves at all.&nbsp; I cannot get the light switch=
 to toggle at all so likely it is fried.&nbsp; Next step is to bypass the s=
witch and see if we get lights/action if I manually
 connect the wires.
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span" sty=
le=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>Condition of the light switch does not s=
ound encouraging, but you might remove it from the dash, open it, and see i=
f it can be cleaned and saved. Original
 switches were good quality.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span" sty=
le=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>At age 35 or so, my switch was warm to t=
ouch. I bought a new one. It was hot to touch. I opened and cleaned origina=
l, installed; &nbsp;it has been happy, and
 cool, ever since. &nbsp;Relays were installed later, but well after the ol=
d switch was back in service. &nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span" sty=
le=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>Good on you to have a battery cut-off sw=
itch. &nbsp;I am a believer. We know the condition of wires where we can se=
e them, but those we can not see ......</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob</div>
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On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:34 PM, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@rante=
er.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
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<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Worked on the car a little t=
oday.&nbsp; discovered that the blinkers do indeed work so that=92s good, a=
nd makes sense.&nbsp;
</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">We have a battery cutoff swi=
tch on this car so I decided to try a few things.&nbsp; I noticed that the =
light switch no longer moves at all.&nbsp; I cannot get the light switch to=
 toggle at all so likely it is fried.&nbsp; Next
 step is to bypass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually=
 connect the wires.
</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">On 19/01/2022 02:32, dave no=
rthrup wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt; margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp; </p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Swapped transmissions, car r=
uns and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this afternoon until on the way hom=
e I switched on the lights.</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Smoke from under the dash, I=
 think on the passenger side but not positive. Turned the lights off, turne=
d the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in engine compartment.&nbsp; Ba=
ck of light switch was hot but did not
 burn my finger.</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
</blockquote>
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	Forward toward the dashboard for high beams, back toward the wheel f=
or low, then pull against the spring to flash high beams.
Bob

> On Jan 24, 2022, at 3:22 PM, dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Update - used a wire with an inline fuse to test connections.   Parking li=
ghts work and headlights work in one position only.=20
>=20
> The dipper switch on a 72 - is forward high or low?  Thats the one that wo=
rks
> I have been through 4 headlight switches in the last 2.25 years.  The qual=
ity is just so poor.  12 uses out of first one, 8 uses out of 2nd one and th=
e last one lasted 3 uses and gave out in the dark at the start of a 1,283 mi=
le trip over 6 days.  I had to sit on the side of the road and wait for the s=
un to come up.  A buddy had a two position 50 year old Sunbeam light switch w=
e installed hanging under the dash on the first day of the trip, whew.
>=20
> 1973 MGB, original owner with 234K miles and the original switch lasted 23=
0k miles.  Take your original switch apart and do everything you can to reta=
in it.
>=20
> Never any smoke, the switch just gives up the ghost.  Supper poor quality,=
 mechanically.
>=20
> Installed Halogen lamps from a buddy with Moss relays and 4th Moss switch.=
>=20
> Good luck.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Sunday, January 23, 2022, 02:00:17 PM EST, [email-masked] <=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>     [email-masked]
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ork so that=E2=80=99s good, and makes sense.=20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> We have a battery cutoff switch on this car so I decided to try a few thin=
gs.  I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.  I cannot get t=
he light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.  Next step is to byp=
ass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the wir=
es.
> Swapped transmissions, car runs and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this a=
fternoon until on the way home I switched on the lights.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Smoke from under the dash, I think on the passenger side but not positive.=
 Turned the lights off, turned the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in e=
ngine compartment.  Back of light switch was hot but did not burn my finger.=

>=20
> =20
>=20
> In that case it sounds like it was an output from the light switch that sh=
orted.  Either the blue (headlights) or red/green (parking and instrument li=
ghts) is probably also damaged, which will indicate (pun not intended) where=
 to look next.
> Note that if the short caused enough damage inside the switch to open the c=
ircuit, and disconnect the short, manually reconnecting the wires will likel=
y bring it back on again.  With your cut-off switch on tap first one then th=
e other of the wires mentioned above onto the brown and you should soon see w=
hich has the short - if it's still present.
>>   I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.  I cannot get t=
he light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.  Next step is to byp=
ass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the wir=
es.
>> =20
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
> Condition of the light switch does not sound encouraging, but you might re=
move it from the dash, open it, and see if it can be cleaned and saved. Orig=
inal switches were good quality.
> At age 35 or so, my switch was warm to touch. I bought a new one. It was h=
ot to touch. I opened and cleaned original, installed;  it has been happy, a=
nd cool, ever since.  Relays were installed later, but well after the old sw=
itch was back in service. =20
> Good on you to have a battery cut-off switch.  I am a believer. We know th=
e condition of wires where we can see them, but those we can not see ......
>> Worked on the car a little today.  discovered that the blinkers do indeed=
 work so that=E2=80=99s good, and makes sense.=20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> We have a battery cutoff switch on this car so I decided to try a few thi=
ngs.  I noticed that the light switch no longer moves at all.  I cannot get t=
he light switch to toggle at all so likely it is fried.  Next step is to byp=
ass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually connect the wir=
es.
>> Swapped transmissions, car runs and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this a=
fternoon until on the way home I switched on the lights.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Smoke from under the dash, I think on the passenger side but not positive=
. Turned the lights off, turned the car off and popped the hood. No smoke in=
 engine compartment.  Back of light switch was hot but did not burn my finge=
r.
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an class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>Forward towa=
rd the dashboard for high beams, back toward the wheel for low, then pull ag=
ainst the spring to flash high beams.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 24, 2022, at 3:22 PM, dave n=
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Update - used a wire with an inline fuse to test connections.&nbsp; &nbsp;Pa=
rking lights work and headlights work in one position only.&nbsp;
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">The dipper switch on a 72 - is forward high or low?&nbsp; T=
hats the one that works</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: Joel Martin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">jmartinii=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 1/23/22 4:25 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> </div>=

<div>Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 176, Issue 4 </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Ne=
ue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:16px">
<div></div>
<div>I have been through 4 headlight switches in the last 2.25 years. &nbsp;=
The quality is just so poor. &nbsp;12 uses out of first one, 8 uses out of 2=
nd one and the last one lasted 3 uses and gave out in the dark at the start o=
f a 1,283 mile trip over 6 days. &nbsp;I had
 to sit on the side of the road and wait for the sun to come up. &nbsp;A bud=
dy had a two position 50 year old Sunbeam light switch we installed hanging u=
nder the dash on the first day of the trip, whew.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1973 MGB, original owner with 234K miles and the original switch lasted=
 230k miles. &nbsp;Take your original switch apart and do everything you can=
 to retain it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Never any smoke, the switch just gives up the ghost. &nbsp;Supper poor q=
uality, mechanically.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Installed Halogen lamps from a buddy with Moss relays and 4th Moss swit=
ch. &nbsp;I have only used 3 times, so we will see if this works.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Good luck.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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Today's Topics:<br>
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&nbsp; 1. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (dave northrup)<br>
&nbsp; 2. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (PaulHunt73)<br>
&nbsp; 3. Re: 1972 MGB convertible (Robert's New iPad)<br>
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<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Worked on the car a little to=
day.&nbsp; discovered that the blinkers do indeed work so that=E2=80=99s goo=
d, and makes sense.&nbsp;
</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">We have a battery cutoff swit=
ch on this car so I decided to try a few things.&nbsp; I noticed that the li=
ght switch no longer moves at all.&nbsp; I cannot get the light switch to to=
ggle at all so likely it is fried.&nbsp; Next
 step is to bypass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually c=
onnect the wires.
</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">On 19/01/2022 02:32, dave nor=
thrup wrote:</p>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt; margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp; </p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Swapped transmissions, car ru=
ns and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this afternoon until on the way home I=
 switched on the lights.</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Smoke from under the dash, I t=
hink on the passenger side but not positive. Turned the lights off, turned t=
he car off and popped the hood. No smoke in engine compartment.&nbsp; Back o=
f light switch was hot but did not
 burn my finger.</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
</blockquote>
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<p>In that case it sounds like it was an output from the light switch that s=
horted.&nbsp; Either the blue (headlights) or red/green (parking and instrum=
ent lights) is probably also damaged, which will indicate (pun not intended)=
 where to look next.</p>
<p>Note that if the short caused enough damage inside the switch to open the=
 circuit, and disconnect the short, manually reconnecting the wires will lik=
ely bring it back on again.&nbsp; With your cut-off switch on tap first one t=
hen the other of the wires mentioned
 above onto the brown and you should soon see which has the short - if it's s=
till present.<br>
</p>
<p>PaulH.<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970moz-cite-prefix">On 23/01/2022 00:34, d=
ave northrup wrote:<br>
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<div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970WordSection1">&nbsp; I noticed that th=
e light switch no longer moves at all.&nbsp; I cannot get the light switch t=
o toggle at all so likely it is fried.&nbsp; Next step is to bypass the swit=
ch and see if we get lights/action if I manually
 connect the wires.
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
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</blockquote>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span" styl=
e=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>Condition of the light switch does not sou=
nd encouraging, but you might remove it from the dash, open it, and see if i=
t can be cleaned and saved. Original
 switches were good quality.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span" styl=
e=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>At age 35 or so, my switch was warm to tou=
ch. I bought a new one. It was hot to touch. I opened and cleaned original, i=
nstalled; &nbsp;it has been happy, and
 cool, ever since. &nbsp;Relays were installed later, but well after the old=
 switch was back in service. &nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970Apple-tab-span" styl=
e=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>Good on you to have a battery cut-off swit=
ch. &nbsp;I am a believer. We know the condition of wires where we can see t=
hem, but those we can not see ......</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob</div>
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e=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span></div>
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On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:34 PM, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@rantee=
r.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970WordSection1">
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Worked on the car a little to=
day.&nbsp; discovered that the blinkers do indeed work so that=E2=80=99s goo=
d, and makes sense.&nbsp;
</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">We have a battery cutoff swit=
ch on this car so I decided to try a few things.&nbsp; I noticed that the li=
ght switch no longer moves at all.&nbsp; I cannot get the light switch to to=
ggle at all so likely it is fried.&nbsp; Next
 step is to bypass the switch and see if we get lights/action if I manually c=
onnect the wires.
</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">On 19/01/2022 02:32, dave nor=
thrup wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt; margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp; </p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Swapped transmissions, car ru=
ns and drives fine, blinkers worked ok this afternoon until on the way home I=
 switched on the lights.</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">Smoke from under the dash, I t=
hink on the passenger side but not positive. Turned the lights off, turned t=
he car off and popped the hood. No smoke in engine compartment.&nbsp; Back o=
f light switch was hot but did not
 burn my finger.</p>
<p class=3D"ydpc53a9a66yiv0986361970MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
</blockquote>
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From: PaulHunt73 <[email-masked]> G/S3BpslFQvs0ZdkwQlfsL5PzSUuRTZkPYgCe4N6kyKJr1zyAkzqTsMxZYDt3NMCS2Mw6xsNEnylhjP+2X2xyTnwOlvCuL+wm8c=
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 08:22:04 +0000

Er, which one - high or low :o)

Forward is main beam, middle is dipped, pulled back is main beam flasher.

It could be that the fault is in the wiring from the dip-switch out to 
he headlights and has damaged both the main switch (which is what you 
indicated previously) as well as the dip switch.  But only one beam 
working could be coincidental.

How about the gauge lights and rheostat?  There are two types of 
rheostat - the original which seems to be of a printed-circuit type, and 
more recently a wire-wound type.  The former get damaged if there is a 
short in the gauge lights, they still work but dimmer than before and it 
has to be bypassed to see the difference.  The latter are more robust.  
The former have a very smooth operation, the latter a bit scratchy.

PaulH.

On 24/01/2022 20:22, dave northrup wrote:
> Update - used a wire with an inline fuse to test connections.  Parking 
> lights work and headlights work in one position only.
>
> The dipper switch on a 72 - is forward high or low?  Thats the one 
> that works
>

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