Subject: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump

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I was in the USA several times doing MG things.

Twice in the Boston area where I met several listers:

In 2000: http://www.ttalk.info/Tech/hans_across_the_water.htm 

In 2006: http://www.ttalk.info/hans2.htm 

In 2012 in Colorado Springs =E2=80=93 no pictures on a site =E2=80=93 we ma=
de a tour along The Garden of the Gods.

Amazing place to be with an amazing set of cars, my host drove my around in=
 his white BGT and there were other beauties like Porsche 356, Triumph, a v=
ery nice Stingray convertible, several MGB=E2=80=99s.

The tour ended in one of the guy=E2=80=99s garage, wherein he kept loads of=
 classics like E-Type series 1 roadster, Nash Healy, Jaguar XK150 FHC, VW T=
1, Frogeye, TR4, MG TC and loads of motorbikes including rare Puch (I own 3=
 Puch mopeds), Z=C3=BCndapp, Jawa etc.

But=E2=80=A6 I do nothing with a dingy.

Cheers,

Hans

Van: Robert's New iPad <[email-masked]> 
Verzonden: dinsdag 29 juni 2021 00:20
Aan: [email-masked]
CC: dave <[email-masked]>; mglist <[email-masked]>
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump

    He is in USA, though we would like to think the Flying Dutchman is you.=

    Years ago, I sailed a two-person dinghy named Flying Dutchman.  Nice bo=
ats, fast and fun.

Bob

Now, I wonder who this Flying Dutchman is! 

Not me!

Cheers, 

Hans - mostly on wired wheels =3D 71 BGT, his race bike or one of his three=
 seventies Puch mopeds

Namens dave
Verzonden: donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump

According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump expert, the water =
pumps these days are crap.  If you want real quality, have him rebuild one =
for you.  it will last. 

http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/

Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water pump for tha=
t other brand.  Not for us.

 On Behalf Of Robert's New iPad
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM

Subject: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump

     One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in a =
certain eastern nation would be so low that additional quality could be bui=
lt included at an acceptable selling price.

     One is so often disappointed.

Bob

[email-masked]> > wrote:

Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I received a quality not=
 have ing to return it 3 times to get a good one!!!  Part.    Why can=E2=80=
=99t we just get good part.  

Paul

Paul Osborne
Department of Electrical and Computer Eng
University of Rochester 
201 Hopeman Building RC
Rochester NY 14627

   585-275-5226

=[email-masked]> > wrote:

Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! 

Dan D

'76B, '65B

Central NJ USA

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I would never expect it to be.  How much stuff like this is made in England=
 these days, or America for that matter?

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Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss.  Made in Engl=
and, NOT! 

Mike MacLean

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I was in the USA several times =
doing MG things.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Twice in the Boston =
area where I met several listers:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In 2000: <a =
href=3D"http://www.ttalk.info/Tech/hans_across_the_water.htm">http://www.=
ttalk.info/Tech/hans_across_the_water.htm</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In 2006: <a =
href=3D"http://www.ttalk.info/hans2.htm">http://www.ttalk.info/hans2.htm<=
/a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In 2012 in Colorado Springs =
=E2=80=93 no pictures on a site =E2=80=93 we made a tour along The =
Garden of the Gods.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Amazing place to be =
with an amazing set of cars, my host drove my around in his white BGT =
and there were other beauties like Porsche 356, Triumph, a very nice =
Stingray convertible, several MGB=E2=80=99s.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The tour ended in one of the =
guy=E2=80=99s garage, wherein he kept loads of classics like E-Type =
series 1 roadster, Nash Healy, Jaguar XK150 FHC, VW T1, Frogeye, TR4, MG =
TC and loads of motorbikes including rare Puch (I own 3 Puch mopeds), =
Z=C3=BCndapp, Jawa etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>But=E2=80=A6 I do nothing with a =
dingy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>Van:</b> Robert's New iPad =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Verzonden:</b> dinsdag 29 juni 2021 =
00:20<br><b>Aan:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>CC:</b> dave =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; mglist =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water =
Pump<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; He is in USA, though we would like to think the Flying Dutchman =
is you.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; =
Years ago, I sailed a two-person dinghy named Flying Dutchman. =
&nbsp;Nice boats, fast and fun.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Now, I wonder who this Flying =
Dutchman is! </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Not =
me!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hans - mostly on wired wheels =3D =
71 BGT, his race bike or one of his three seventies Puch =
mopeds</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>Van:</b> Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; <b>Namens </b>dave<br><b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 24 juni 2021 =
15:24<br><b>Aan:</b> 'mglist' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Onder=
werp:</b> Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump =
expert, the water pumps these days are crap.&nbsp; If you want real =
quality, have him rebuild one for you.&nbsp; it will last. =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><a =
href=3D"http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/">http://water-pump-rebuilders.c=
om/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum =
water pump for that other brand.&nbsp; Not for =
us.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert's New iPad<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, =
June 24, 2021 8:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> Osborne, Paul &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
<b>Cc:</b> mglist &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;One imagines, =
seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in a certain eastern =
nation would be so low that additional quality could be built included =
at an acceptable selling price.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;One is so often =
disappointed.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Bob</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US><br>On Jun 24, 2021, =
at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Not to sure if I would complain =
about the price if I received a quality not have ing to return it 3 =
times to get a good one!!! &nbsp;Part. &nbsp; &nbsp;Why can=E2=80=99t we =
just get good part.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;orphans: 2;widows: 2'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US>Paul =
Osborne<br>Department of Electrical and&nbsp;Computer Eng<br>University =
of Rochester&nbsp;<br>201 Hopeman Building RC<br>Rochester NY =
14627</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;585-275-5226</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan =
DiBiase &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Right. And if they were we'd be =
b*tching about the price! </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Dan =
D</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>'76B, '65B</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Central NJ USA<br =
clear=3Dall></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><a =
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qQZhHbOU&amp;r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&amp;m=3DIVPb=
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F3hnm7nP3norZF7jEM&amp;e=3D" =
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/p></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM =
PaulHunt73 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>I would never =
expect it to be.&nbsp; How much stuff like this is made in England these =
days, or America for that matter?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:=
5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>----- Original =
Message ----- </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Just received my new water pump for =
my 1969 MGB GT from Moss.&nbsp; Made in England, NOT! =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Mike =
MacLean</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p =
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