Subject: Re: [Mgs] New Clutch Slave Cylinder (MGA) problem

From: "PaulHunt73" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:02:23 +0100 YgHxQqfFxDlfy5H2hUe6LZZOFjtlr2FIsY67YbsJEo7tcWgSyyTmcKK1eBXWMWwbgPubinSGbTUpthifceD8qopFjW3ekmKcx1A=

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e-mail signatureTerminology - is it that the biting point has moved?  If =
it's nearer the floor then there is still air in there.

If it's either in or out with very little travel where you can slip the =
clutch for manouvering then it could be a narrower bore.  If that's the =
case then I'd expect more movement than normal at the slave push-rod, =
which is measurable.  Can't say for the MGA but the MGB is 1/2" to 5/8". =
 I'd expect a longer throw of the push-rod to result in a higher biting =
point and a 'heavier' pedal than normal.

PaulH.
  ----- Original Message -----=20

  I replaced my leaking clutch slave cylinder on my MGA 1600.  =
Everything went in fine, and I bled the system with an EZBleed.  The =
clutch slave works, but now the range in which the clutch engages is =
very quick and with a short "throw".  The pedal feels like it is meeting =
pressure as in the days before the replacement, but there is no "ride" =
on the clutch.  What can cause this and what is the solution?

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Terminology - is it that the biting =
point has=20
moved?&nbsp; If it's nearer the floor then there is still air in=20
there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>If it's either in or out with very =
little=20
travel&nbsp;where you can slip the clutch for manouvering then it could =
be a=20
narrower bore.&nbsp; If that's the case then I'd expect more movement =
than=20
normal&nbsp;at the slave push-rod, which is measurable.&nbsp; Can't say =
for the=20
MGA but the MGB is 1/2" to 5/8".&nbsp; I'd expect a longer throw of the =
push-rod=20
to result in a higher biting point and a 'heavier' pedal&nbsp;than=20
normal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>PaulH.</FONT></DIV>
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  <P>I replaced my leaking clutch slave cylinder on my MGA 1600.&nbsp;=20
  Everything went in fine, and I bled the system with an EZBleed.&nbsp; =
The=20
  clutch slave works, but now the range in which the clutch engages is =
very=20
  quick and with a short "throw".&nbsp; The pedal feels like it is =
meeting=20
  pressure as in the days before the replacement, but there is no "ride" =
on the=20
  clutch.&nbsp; What can cause this and what is the=20
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:13:48 -0500

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Yes, thanks for the correct term.=C2=A0 That is precisely what I wanted t=
o=20
describe.=C2=A0 Back to the two person pedal assist bleeding method as=20
insurance, I suppose

On 4/26/2021 3:02 AM, PaulHunt73 wrote:
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> Terminology - is it that the biting point has moved?=C2=A0 If it's near=
er=20
> the floor then there is still air in there.
> If it's either in or out with very little travel=C2=A0where you can sli=
p=20
> the clutch for manouvering then it could be a narrower bore.=C2=A0 If=20
> that's the case then I'd expect more movement than normal=C2=A0at the s=
lave=20
> push-rod, which is measurable.=C2=A0 Can't say for the MGA but the MGB =
is=20
> 1/2" to 5/8".=C2=A0 I'd expect a longer throw of the push-rod to result=
 in=20
> a higher biting point and a 'heavier' pedal=C2=A0than normal.
> PaulH.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     I replaced my leaking clutch slave cylinder on my MGA 1600.
>     Everything went in fine, and I bled the system with an EZBleed.=C2=A0
>     The clutch slave works, but now the range in which the clutch
>     engages is very quick and with a short "throw". The pedal feels
>     like it is meeting pressure as in the days before the replacement,
>     but there is no "ride" on the clutch. What can cause this and what
>     is the solution?
>
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    <p>Yes, thanks for the correct term.=C2=A0 That is precisely what I
      wanted to describe.=C2=A0 Back to the two person pedal assist bleed=
ing
      method as insurance, I suppose<br>
    </p>
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      <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Terminology - is it that the
          biting point has moved?=C2=A0 If it's nearer the floor then the=
re
          is still air in there.</font></div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">If it's either in or out with
          very little travel=C2=A0where you can slip the clutch for
          manouvering then it could be a narrower bore.=C2=A0 If that's t=
he
          case then I'd expect more movement than normal=C2=A0at the slav=
e
          push-rod, which is measurable.=C2=A0 Can't say for the MGA but =
the
          MGB is 1/2" to 5/8".=C2=A0 I'd expect a longer throw of the
          push-rod to result in a higher biting point and a 'heavier'
          pedal=C2=A0than normal.</font></div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">PaulH.</font></div>
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        <p>I replaced my leaking clutch slave cylinder on my MGA 1600.=C2=
=A0
          Everything went in fine, and I bled the system with an
          EZBleed.=C2=A0 The clutch slave works, but now the range in whi=
ch
          the clutch engages is very quick and with a short "throw".=C2=A0
          The pedal feels like it is meeting pressure as in the days
          before the replacement, but there is no "ride" on the clutch.=C2=
=A0
          What can cause this and what is the solution?<br>
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e-mail signatureBleeding is a pain on the MGB, what usually works is to =
wedge the pedal fully down overnight then release it carefully - i.e. =
not with a bang - next morning.  This displaces any air bubbles which =
allows them to flow to a loop at the top of the pipe (on the MGB) then =
releasing the pedal next morning flushes it back into the reservoir.

PaulH.

  Yes, thanks for the correct term.  That is precisely what I wanted to =
describe.  Back to the two person pedal assist bleeding method as =
insurance, I suppose

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Bleeding is a pain on the MGB, what =
usually works=20
is to wedge the pedal fully down overnight then release it carefully - =
i.e. not=20
with a bang - next morning.&nbsp; This displaces any air bubbles which =
allows=20
them to flow to a loop at the top of the pipe (on the MGB) then =
releasing the=20
pedal next morning flushes it back into the reservoir.</FONT></DIV>
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  <P>Yes, thanks for the correct term.&nbsp; That is precisely what I =
wanted to=20
  describe.&nbsp; Back to the two person pedal assist bleeding method as =

  insurance, I suppose<BR></P>
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That's new to me.  When doing it solo, I attach a tube to the bleed 
screw on the slave cylinder, run it into a partially full catch basin 
and slowly pump the clutch pedal until all the air is pumped out of the 
system, adding fluid as necessary to the master cylinder so it doesn't 
go dry.   This has always worked for me.

CR

On 4/26/2021 9:35 AM, PaulHunt73 wrote:
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> Bleeding is a pain on the MGB, what usually works is to wedge the 
> pedal fully down overnight then release it carefully - i.e. not with a 
> bang - next morning.  This displaces any air bubbles which allows them 
> to flow to a loop at the top of the pipe (on the MGB) then releasing 
> the pedal next morning flushes it back into the reservoir.
> PaulH.

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    <p>That's new to me.  When doing it solo, I attach a tube to the
      bleed screw on the slave cylinder, run it into a partially full
      catch basin and slowly pump the clutch pedal until all the air is
      pumped out of the system, adding fluid as necessary to the master
      cylinder so it doesn't go dry.   This has always worked for me.</p>
    <p>CR<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/26/2021 9:35 AM, PaulHunt73 wrote:<br>
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      <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Bleeding is a pain on the MGB,
          what usually works is to wedge the pedal fully down overnight
          then release it carefully - i.e. not with a bang - next
          morning.  This displaces any air bubbles which allows them to
          flow to a loop at the top of the pipe (on the MGB) then
          releasing the pedal next morning flushes it back into the
          reservoir.</font></div>
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e-mail signatureAh well, the immortal phrase "until all the air is =
pumped out of the system".  If you are pumping the pedal you really need =
two people, the other one to close and open the nipple at each up/down =
stroke.  If you are going to be pumping it's better to run a tube from =
the bleed nipple back up to the reservoir, then you don't have to keep =
topping up or run the risk if introducing more air.  EeziBleed is =
'Eezier' as it is one person continuous flow and continuous topping-up - =
until the EeziBleed bottle empties.  Depending on the system you can =
pump or EeziBleed until the cows come home but with low pressure you =
will never get rid of all the air, a higher pressure step is often =
needed.  MGB brake systems with the remote servo are another problem =
area on the MGB.  After trying two servos (and proving it was the servo =
that was the problem) in a loooong thread elsewhere some twelve methods =
were offered, tried and found wanting and the person involved eventually =
gave up on the idea of adding a servo.  As for the clutch two MGB owners =
have found the Girling master used on the TR6 (one of them after having =
no problems on a TR6) when fitted to the MGB bleeds straight away.  Cap =
clearance can be tight though.

PaulH.

  That's new to me.  When doing it solo, I attach a tube to the bleed =
screw on the slave cylinder, run it into a partially full catch basin =
and slowly pump the clutch pedal until all the air is pumped out of the =
system, adding fluid as necessary to the master cylinder so it doesn't =
go dry.   This has always worked for me.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ah well, the immortal phrase "until all the air is =
pumped out=20
of the system".&nbsp; If you are pumping the pedal you really need two =
people,=20
the other one to close and open the nipple at each up/down stroke.&nbsp; =
If you=20
are going to&nbsp;be pumping it's better to run a tube from the bleed =
nipple=20
back up to the reservoir, then you don't have to keep topping up or run =
the risk=20
if introducing more air.&nbsp; EeziBleed is 'Eezier' as it is one person =

continuous flow and continuous topping-up - until the EeziBleed bottle=20
empties.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=3D2>Depending on the system you =
can pump or=20
EeziBleed until the cows come home but with low pressure you will never =
get rid=20
of all the air, a higher pressure step is often needed.&nbsp; MGB brake =
systems=20
with the remote servo are another problem area on the MGB.&nbsp; After =
trying=20
two servos (and proving it was the servo that was the problem)&nbsp;in a =
loooong=20
thread elsewhere some twelve methods were offered, tried and found =
wanting and=20
the person involved eventually gave up on the idea of adding a =
servo.&nbsp; As=20
for the clutch two&nbsp;MGB owners&nbsp;have </FONT><FONT size=3D2>found =
the=20
Girling master used on the TR6 (one of them after having no problems on =
a TR6)=20
when fitted to the MGB bleeds straight away.&nbsp; Cap clearance can be =
tight=20
though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PaulH.</FONT></DIV>
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  <P>That's new to me.&nbsp; When doing it solo, I attach a tube to the =
bleed=20
  screw on the slave cylinder, run it into a partially full catch basin =
and=20
  slowly pump the clutch pedal until all the air is pumped out of the =
system,=20
  adding fluid as necessary to the master cylinder so it doesn't go=20
  dry.&nbsp;&nbsp; This has always worked for =
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Robert,

If the clutch is engaging/disengaging very near=20
top of pedal stroke, you can shorten the clutch=20
master pushrod a bit to provide some pre-travel=20
for the pedal, which may be more for to your preference.

Barney Gaylord
1058 MG with an attitude
http://MGAguru.com

At 10:13 AM 4/26/2021, Robert J. Guinness wrote:
>....
>Yes, thanks for the correct term.=C2  That is=20
>precisely what I wanted to describe.=C2  Back to=20
>the two person pedal assist bleeding method as insurance, I suppose.
>--
>Robert Guinness

>>Terminology - is it that the biting point has=20
>>moved?=C2  If it's nearer the floor then there is still air in there.
>>=C2
>>If it's either in or out with very little=20
>>travel=C2 where you can slip the clutch for=20
>>manouvering then it could be a narrower=20
>>bore.=C2  If that's the case then I'd expect more=20
>>movement than normal=C2 at the slave push-rod,=20
>>which is measurable.=C2  Can't say for the MGA=20
>>but the MGB is 1/2" to 5/8".=C2  I'd expect a=20
>>longer throw of the push-rod to result in a=20
>>higher biting point and a 'heavier' pedal=C2 than normal.
>>=C2
>>PaulH.

>>I replaced my leaking clutch slave cylinder on=20
>>my MGA 1600.=C2  Everything went in fine, and I=20
>>bled the system with an EZBleed.=C2  The clutch=20
>>slave works, but now the range in which the=20
>>clutch engages is very quick and with a short=20
>>"throw".=C2  The pedal feels like it is meeting=20
>>pressure as in the days before the replacement,=20
>>but there is no "ride" on the clutch.=C2  What=20
>>can cause this and what is the solution?

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<font size=3D3>Robert,<br><br>
</font><font size=3D3>If the clutch is engaging/disengaging very near top
of pedal stroke, you can shorten the clutch master pushrod a bit to
provide some pre-travel for the pedal, which may be more for to your
preference.<br><br>
Barney Gaylord<br>
1058 MG with an attitude<br>
<a href=3D"http://mgaguru.com/" eudora=3D"autourl">http://MGAguru.com<br><br=
<br>
</a>At 10:13 AM 4/26/2021, Robert J. Guinness wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">....<br>
Yes, thanks for the correct term.=C2&nbsp; That is precisely what I wanted
to describe.=C2&nbsp; Back to the two person pedal assist bleeding method
as insurance, I suppose.<br>
</font>-- <br>
Robert Guinness<font size=3D3></font></blockquote><br><br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D""><font size=3D3>On 4/26/2021 3=
:02
AM, PaulHunt73 wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">=EF=BB=BF <br>
</font><font size=3D2>Terminology - is it that the biting point has
moved?=C2&nbsp; If it's nearer the floor then there is still air in
there.<br>
</font><font size=3D3>=C2 <br>
</font><font size=3D2>If it's either in or out with very little travel=C2
where you can slip the clutch for manouvering then it could be a narrower
bore.=C2&nbsp; If that's the case then I'd expect more movement than
normal=C2 at the slave push-rod, which is measurable.=C2&nbsp; Can't say for
the MGA but the MGB is 1/2&quot; to 5/8&quot;.=C2&nbsp; I'd expect a longer
throw of the push-rod to result in a higher biting point and a 'heavier'
pedal=C2 than normal.<br>
</font><font size=3D3>=C2 <br>
</font><font size=3D2>PaulH.</font></blockquote></blockquote><br><br>
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<dd><font size=3D3>----- Original Message ----- <br><br>

<dd>I replaced my leaking clutch slave cylinder on my MGA 1600.=C2&nbsp;
Everything went in fine, and I bled the system with an EZBleed.=C2&nbsp;
The clutch slave works, but now the range in which the clutch engages is
very quick and with a short &quot;throw&quot;.=C2&nbsp; The pedal feels
like it is meeting pressure as in the days before the replacement, but
there is no &quot;ride&quot; on the clutch.=C2&nbsp; What can cause this
and what is the solution?</font>
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It's different to the MGB clutch slave then.  That has a spring which =
pushes the piston out to take up play and push the release bearing onto =
the clutch cover plate.  The cylinder is backfilled with fluid from the =
reservoir so you get the same travel as before.  You have to reduce the =
pedal throw to get less movement of the release arm - BT, DT.

For the other post one of the techniques in the MGB world is to clamp =
the push-rod and hence piston fully into the bore of the cylinder for =
bleeding, to push as much air and fluid out as you can before starting.  =
The piston doesn't retract at all on its own, the above spring is trying =
to push the piston out.

Easy to check, push on the release arm so the push-rod goes into the =
cylinder, then let go.  If it slowly comes back out again there is a =
spring inside.

PaulH,

  If the clutch is engaging/disengaging very near top of pedal stroke, =
you can shorten the clutch master pushrod a bit to provide some =
pre-travel for the pedal, which may be more for to your preference.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It's different to the MGB clutch slave then.&nbsp; =
That has a=20
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bearing=20
onto the clutch cover plate.&nbsp; The cylinder is backfilled =
with&nbsp;fluid=20
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You&nbsp;have to&nbsp;reduce the pedal throw to get less movement of the =
release=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>For the other post one of the techniques in the MGB=20
world&nbsp;is<FONT size=3D2> to clamp the push-rod and hence piston =
fully into the=20
bore of the cylinder for bleeding, to push as much air and fluid out as =
you can=20
before starting.&nbsp; The piston&nbsp;doesn't retract at all on its =
own, the=20
above spring is trying to push the piston out.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Easy to check, push on the release arm so the =
push-rod goes=20
into the cylinder, then let go.&nbsp; If it slowly comes back out again =
there is=20
a spring inside.</FONT></DIV>
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Bleeding can be time consuming.

My son repeatedly pressed the pedal in, whereafter I opened the bleed valve=
=2E

The spring pressure of the clutch makes the slave piston move backwards inc=
luding pushing the liquid and air out of the bleed valve. After many times =
repeating this procedure, the system was fine.

Same procedure for refreshing the liquid every 2 years.

Cheers,

Hans

71 BGT

Van: Mgs <[email-masked]> Namens Charles Robinson
Verzonden: maandag 26 april 2021 17:14
Aan: [email-masked]
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] New Clutch Slave Cylinder (MGA) problem

That's new to me.  When doing it solo, I attach a tube to the bleed screw o=
n the slave cylinder, run it into a partially full catch basin and slowly p=
ump the clutch pedal until all the air is pumped out of the system, adding =
fluid as necessary to the master cylinder so it doesn't go dry.   This has =
always worked for me.

CR

=EF=BB=BF 

Bleeding is a pain on the MGB, what usually works is to wedge the pedal ful=
ly down overnight then release it carefully - i.e. not with a bang - next m=
orning.  This displaces any air bubbles which allows them to flow to a loop=
 at the top of the pipe (on the MGB) then releasing the pedal next morning =
flushes it back into the reservoir.

PaulH.

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ds including pushing the liquid and air out of the bleed valve. After many =
times repeating this procedure, the system was fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
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p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>That's new to me.&nbsp; When do=
ing it solo, I attach a tube to the bleed screw on the slave cylinder, run =
it into a partially full catch basin and slowly pump the clutch pedal until=
 all the air is pumped out of the system, adding fluid as necessary to the =
master cylinder so it doesn't go dry.&nbsp;&nbsp; This has always worked fo=
r me.<o:p></o:p></p><p>CR<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 4/26/2=
021 9:35 AM, PaulHunt73 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'mar=
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o wedge the pedal fully down overnight then release it carefully - i.e. not=
 with a bang - next morning.&nbsp; This displaces any air bubbles which all=
ows them to flow to a loop at the top of the pipe (on the MGB) then releasi=
ng the pedal next morning flushes it back into the reservoir.</span><o:p></=
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