Subject: Re: [Mgs] simple question

From: i erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 19:24:55 -0700

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if they share one reservoir and the fluid gets too low or empty, then yes,
you could potentially suck air into the clutch
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On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:16 PM dave <[email-masked]> wrote:

> The brake and clutch use the same box, the same container of fluid.
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> If the master is full of fluid but there is air in the brake lines (they
> are sealed but need to be bled), will this affect the clutch?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">if they share one reservoir and the fluid gets too low or =
empty, then yes, you could potentially suck air into the clutch<br clear=3D=
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Regarding the original question, no, it won't affect the clutch. There are
different pistons for brake vs clutch in the shared master cylinder.
Depressing the clutch petal will simply use fluid from the reservoir and
activate the slave cylinder (or, at least it should, lol) irregardless if
the brakes have been bled yet or not.

Hope this helps. Good luck with your project!

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<div dir=3D"auto">Regarding the original question, no, it won&#39;t affect =
the clutch. There are different pistons for brake vs clutch in the shared m=
aster cylinder. Depressing the clutch petal will simply use fluid from the =
reservoir and activate the slave cylinder (or, at least it should, lol) irr=
egardless if the brakes have been bled yet or not.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">Hope this helps. Good luck with your project!</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Dave<br><br><div data-smartmail=
=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">--<br>David Smittle<br>Ada, OH<br><a href=
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ir=3D"ltr">if they share one reservoir and the fluid gets too low or empty,=
 then yes, you could potentially suck air into the clutch<br clear=3D"all">=
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The two cylinders AND pistons should be separate, and one would hope =
there is a 'wall' between the two halves of the reservoir as there is in =
dual brake masters, so a fault in one circuit/system doesn't stop the =
other one working as well.
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  Regarding the original question, no, it won't affect the clutch. There =
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  If the master cylinder has been full all along, then it would not have adm=
itted air to clutch or to brake systems.
  If the clutch is not working properly, the problem is within the clutch sy=
stem.  Check that the slave cylinder is not leaking. If it is, might as well=
 rebuild or replace now. It it is not leaking, bleed the clutch line.=20
   Clutches can often be difficult to bleed, using a lot of fluid in the pro=
cess.  Keep a watch on the master cylinder to be sure that its fluid level i=
s sufficient.=20
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dmitted air to clutch or to brake systems.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; If t=
he clutch is not working properly, the problem is within the clutch system. &=
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From: "PaulHunt73" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:07:52 +0100 qBRG46Kuh54Xs+GKJz42K7PnXbAY3NChmc0asEi+6YSxu0LTQnJz+q/XxZ70N+swCSYu9EQhNUIHXw==

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Given the initial question is this likely to be an MGB?  In not then =
without knowing what car it is one can't really say what is or isn't =
likely.  And I'm sure there have been cases where MGB systems with fluid =
in the reservoir have got air in the system from a defect.

    If the master cylinder has been full all along, then it would not =
have admitted air to clutch or to brake systems.
    If the clutch is not working properly, the problem is within the =
clutch system.  Check that the slave cylinder is not leaking. If it is, =
might as well rebuild or replace now. It it is not leaking, bleed the =
clutch line.=20
     Clutches can often be difficult to bleed, using a lot of fluid in =
the process.  Keep a watch on the master cylinder to be sure that its =
fluid level is sufficient. 
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That was my question. I wasn=E2=80=99t aware that any MGs had a shared =
reservoir for brake and clutch fluid. So what car are we talking about?

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Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Aug 24, 2020, at 5:07 AM, PaulHunt73 <[email-masked]> =
the process.  Keep a watch on the master cylinder to be sure that its =
fluid level is sufficient.=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">That =
was my question. I wasn=E2=80=99t aware that any MGs had a shared =
reservoir for brake and clutch fluid. So what car are we talking =
about?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
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text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D"">Given the =
initial question is this likely to be an MGB?&nbsp; In not then without =
knowing what car it is one can't really say what is or isn't =
likely.&nbsp; And I'm sure there have been cases where MGB systems with =
fluid in the reservoir have got air in the system from a =
defect.</font></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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size=3D"2" class=3D""></font><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&nbsp; If the master =
cylinder has been full all along, then it would not have admitted air to =
clutch or to brake systems.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&nbsp; If =
the clutch is not working properly, the problem is within the clutch =
system. &nbsp;Check that the slave cylinder is not leaking. If it is, =
might as well rebuild or replace now. It it is not leaking, bleed the =
clutch line.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&nbsp; =
&nbsp;Clutches can often be difficult to bleed, using a lot of fluid in =
the process. &nbsp;Keep a watch on the master cylinder to be sure that =
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