Subject: Re: [Mgs] maybe to save others some time and frustration

From: Max Heim <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 23:32:36 -0700

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You had better luck than I did. I was trying to do it without the engine =
or transmission in the car. I wound up piling 5 spare wheels and tires =
plus a heavy toolbox in the boot, plus everything else heavy I could =
find in the cockpit. Managed it, though.

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Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Aug 16, 2020, at 7:18 PM, dave <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I=E2=80=99m redoing a 56 MGA.  Slowly.=20
> =20
> Had to put in new rebound straps in the rear.  The old ones were, =
well, shredded is the best description I can come up with.
> =20
> I ordered new ones from https://www.bpnorthwest.com/ =
<https://www.bpnorthwest.com/> which is good considering the flack =
coming from Barney Gaylord=E2=80=99s site about the parts Moss was =
selling.
> =20
> Since the car was on a lift, I was unable to attach them easily, and =
figured all I had to do was drop the lift down with a pair of ramps to =
catch the rear wheels.  Then the suspension would compress, and voila!  =
I could install the straps.
> =20
> NO GOOD!!!!!  Checked on Barney=E2=80=99s site, and he said all you =
had to do was fully load the suspension and it was no problem to install =
the straps.  Couldn=E2=80=99t figure out what the problem was; thought =
of putting some sand bags in the trunk to maybe compress it some more.  =
Or maybe use some tie down ratchet straps to pull the frame and the =
suspension together.  Maybe loosen the rear u bolts to let the leaf =
springs come up a bit???
> =20
> I was baffled.
> =20
> My (grown) son came over today to help me.  that=E2=80=99s when I had =
an epiphany.  Maybe I need to load the WHOLE suspension!!  Grabbed =
another pair of ramps for the front, lowered the lift, and wow!  Then =
with my son sitting in the trunk I had tons of room to put the rebound =
straps in.  easy peasy!!!!
> =20
> Obviously I=E2=80=99m not bragging.  Just thought I would share my =
experience to save others from the frustration I went through. =20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">You =
had better luck than I did. I was trying to do it without the engine or =
transmission in the car. I wound up piling 5 spare wheels and tires plus =
a heavy toolbox in the boot, plus everything else heavy I could find in =
the cockpit. Managed it, though.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Aug 16, 2020, at 7:18 PM, dave &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m redoing a 56 =
MGA.&nbsp; Slowly.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Had to put in new rebound =
straps in the rear.&nbsp; The old ones were, well, shredded is the best =
description I can come up with.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">I ordered new ones from<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"https://www.bpnorthwest.com/" style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://www.bpnorthwest.com/</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>which is good considering =
the flack coming from Barney Gaylord=E2=80=99s site about the parts Moss =
was selling.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Since the car was on a =
lift, I was unable to attach them easily, and figured all I had to do =
was drop the lift down with a pair of ramps to catch the rear =
wheels.&nbsp; Then the suspension would compress, and voila!&nbsp; I =
could install the straps.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin:=
 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">NO GOOD!!!!!&nbsp; Checked =
on Barney=E2=80=99s site, and he said all you had to do was fully load =
the suspension and it was no problem to install the straps.&nbsp; =
Couldn=E2=80=99t figure out what the problem was; thought of putting =
some sand bags in the trunk to maybe compress it some more.&nbsp; Or =
maybe use some tie down ratchet straps to pull the frame and the =
suspension together.&nbsp; Maybe loosen the rear u bolts to let the leaf =
springs come up a bit???<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I was baffled.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">My (grown) son came over =
today to help me.&nbsp; that=E2=80=99s when I had an epiphany.&nbsp; =
Maybe I need to load the WHOLE suspension!!&nbsp; Grabbed another pair =
of ramps for the front, lowered the lift, and wow!&nbsp; Then with my =
son sitting in the trunk I had tons of room to put the rebound straps =
in.&nbsp; easy peasy!!!!<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Obviously I=E2=80=99m not =
bragging.&nbsp; Just thought I would share my experience to save others =
from the frustration I went through.&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
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Depends on the rear springs.  On an MGB at least when fully fitted out =
and sitting on its wheels there should be a curve in the rebound straps, =
which means they can be fitted and removed easily without any additional =
weight.  However for some time springs were way too hard and/or arched =
which jacked the rear right up and additional weight had to be added to =
compress them enough.  It's hardly surprising that without an =
engine/gearbox higher, although I do remember someone asking why his =
suspension was fully extended front and rear, with engine and gearbox =
fitted, and he only mentioned later that it was on a rotator ...

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  You had better luck than I did. I was trying to do it without the =
engine or transmission in the car. I wound up piling 5 spare wheels and =
tires plus a heavy toolbox in the boot, plus everything else heavy I =
could find in the cockpit. Managed it, though.
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