Subject: Re: [Mgs] rivets without holes

From: Max Heim <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 14:47:01 -0700

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I would think solder would be the solution.

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Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Aug 4, 2020, at 1:39 PM, dwoerpel <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I did similar but the buck was an alloy. Worked well on the tubular =
rivet but I get oil leaking out the rivet holes.  Re-did them using =
sealer but still leak.
> Any ideas before Dave rivers his and this Dave tries again?
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> Thanks,
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> Dave W
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> '59 :()
> '59 MGA 1500
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> Burlington WI=20
> "Pay It Forward"
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> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable =
smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Eric Russell <[email-masked] =
> Date: 8/4/20 1:32 PM (GMT-06:00)
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] rivets without holes
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> I bought a package from McMaster-Carr a few years ago. I have lots =
left.
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> Send me your mailing address & I will put a few in envelope.
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> To set the rivets I made a buck with a length of hardwood. Drill a =
small=20
> divot in the end, clamp the piece of wood in a vise, position the =
rivet=20
> head in the divot - through the ID plate & valve cover and peen over =
the=20
> end of the rivet. I started it by using a center punch in the end of =
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> rivet then peened it over with a ball peen hammer.
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> Eric Russell
> Mebane, NC
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> On 8/4/2020 2:00 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 10:34:17 -0500
> > From: "dave" <[email-masked]>
> > To: <[email-masked]>
> > Subject: [Mgs] rivets without holes
> > Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
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> > ISTR there was a thread a while back about rivets without holes in =
them
> > (i.e. solid tops).  I need to rivet in the metal plates on the valve =
cover
> > and I would like to do it correctly.
> >
> >  =20
> >
> > Can someone help me out?

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<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Aug 4, 2020, at 1:39 PM, dwoerpel &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
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text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D"">I did similar but the buck was an alloy. Worked well =
on the tubular rivet but I get oil leaking out the rivet holes.&nbsp; =
Re-did them using sealer but still leak.</div><div dir=3D"auto" =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">Any =
ideas before Dave rivers his and this Dave tries again?</div><div =
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class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, =
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W</div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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:()</div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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Evolution capable smartphone</div></div><div dir=3D"auto" =
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class=3D"">-------- Original message --------</div><div class=3D"">From: =
Eric Russell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"">Date: =
8/4/20 1:32 PM (GMT-06:00)</div><div class=3D"">To:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>,<span=
 class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a></div><div=
 class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Mgs] rivets without holes</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">I bought a package from McMaster-Carr a few years ago. I have =
lots left.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Send me your =
mailing address &amp; I will put a few in envelope.</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">To set the rivets I made a buck =
with a length of hardwood. Drill a small<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">divot in the end, clamp the =
piece of wood in a vise, position the rivet<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">head in the divot - through the =
ID plate &amp; valve cover and peen over the<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">end of the rivet. I started it =
by using a center punch in the end of the<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">rivet then peened it over with a =
ball peen hammer.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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class=3D"">Eric Russell</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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class=3D"">Mebane, NC</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">On 8/4/2020 2:00 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a> wrote:</span><br =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt; Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 =
10:34:17 -0500</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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class=3D"">&gt; From: "dave" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">&gt; To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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class=3D"">&gt; Subject: [Mgs] rivets without holes</span><br =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; =
charset=3D"us-ascii"</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
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0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">&gt;</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">&gt; ISTR there was a thread a while back about rivets =
without holes in them</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">&gt; (i.e. solid tops).&nbsp; I need to rivet in the metal =
plates on the valve cover</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
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0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">&gt; and I would like to do it correctly.</span><br =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt;</span><br =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
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style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt;</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt; Can someone help me =
out?</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; =
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     I have some 1/8 x 1/2 round-head aluminium rivets, solid shank, that I c=
an share with anyone who needs some.   These I got for the rear side curtain=
s for TD, when the kit from a vendor in California contained pre-rusted, fla=
t-head wrong rivets. =20
     One puts a rivet through the pieces to be joined, nips off the rivet ab=
out 1/8 inch above the surface, then peens the cut end using an anvil under t=
he round head. I made the anvil to fit rivet round heads by drilling into th=
e end of a bolt a hole the size of rivet head. Heads stay nicely round and u=
nscratched this way.
   Riveting is quicker than fitting a machine screw, washer and nut. =20

> On Aug 4, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Max Heim <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
>> I did similar but the buck was an alloy. Worked well on the tubular rivet=
 but I get oil leaking out the rivet holes.  Re-did them using sealer but st=
ill leak.
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone
>>=20
>>=20
>> From: Eric Russell <[email-masked]>=20
>> To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
>> I bought a package from McMaster-Carr a few years ago. I have lots left.
>>=20
>> To set the rivets I made a buck with a length of hardwood. Drill a small=20=

>> divot in the end, clamp the piece of wood in a vise, position the rivet=20=

>> head in the divot - through the ID plate & valve cover and peen over the=20=

>> end of the rivet. I started it by using a center punch in the end of the=20=

>> > ISTR there was a thread a while back about rivets without holes in them=

>> > (i.e. solid tops).  I need to rivet in the metal plates on the valve co=
ver
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I have some 1/8 x 1/2 round-head aluminium rivets, solid sh=
ank, that I can share with anyone who needs some. &nbsp; These I got for the=
 rear side curtains for TD, when the kit from a vendor in California contain=
ed pre-rusted, flat-head wrong rivets. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp;One puts a rivet through the pieces to be joined, nips off the r=
ivet about 1/8 inch above the surface, then peens the cut end using an anvil=
 under the round head. I made the anvil to fit rivet round heads by drilling=
 into the end of a bolt a hole the size of rivet head. Heads stay nicely rou=
nd and unscratched this way.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp;Riveting is q=
uicker than fitting a machine screw, washer and nut. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br>On Aug 4, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Max Heim &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mvheim@=
sonic.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/htm=
l; charset=3Dus-ascii">I would think solder would be the solution.<div class=
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px; min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; f=
ont-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
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ug 4, 2020, at 1:39 PM, dwoerpel &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" clas=
s=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-ne=
wline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);=
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s: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; t=
ext-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0p=
x; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">I did s=
imilar but the buck was an alloy. Worked well on the tubular rivet but I get=
 oil leaking out the rivet holes.&nbsp; Re-did them using sealer but still l=
eak.</div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:=
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nt-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0=
px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-te=
xt-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">Any ideas before Da=
ve rivers his and this Dave tries again?</div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"car=
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align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; w=
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ass=3D"">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); f=
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ext-decoration: none;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">-------- Original message -=
-------</div><div class=3D"">From: Eric Russell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ejruss=
[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-=
converted-space">&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"">Date: 8/4/20 1:32 PM (GM=
T-06:00)</div><div class=3D"">To:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp=
;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]<=
/a>,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:dav=
[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a></div><div class=3D"">Subject:=
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div><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-siz=
e: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;=
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px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D=
"">I bought a package from McMaster-Carr a few years ago. I have lots left.<=
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e: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;=
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ecoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Send m=
e your mailing address &amp; I will put a few in envelope.</span><br style=3D=
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e: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: n=
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de a buck with a length of hardwood. Drill a small<span class=3D"Apple-conve=
rted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font=
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pace: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decora=
tion: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">divot in th=
e end, clamp the piece of wood in a vise, position the rivet<span class=3D"A=
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t-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: sta=
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ead in the divot - through the ID plate &amp; valve cover and peen over the<=
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l; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;=
" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana;=
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-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;=
" class=3D"">end of the rivet. I started it by using a center punch in the e=
nd of the<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br style=
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mportant;" class=3D"">rivet then peened it over with a ball peen hammer.</sp=
an><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 1=
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ation: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Eric Russe=
ll</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-=
size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: norm=
al; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transf=
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: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0,=
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tart; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spac=
ing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none=
; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Mebane, NC</span><br style=3D"care=
t-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: no=
rmal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal=
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ne;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana=
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t: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text=
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t: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">On 8/4/2020 2:00 PM, <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]=
t</a> wrote:</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verd=
ana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-we=
ight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; t=
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roke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-col=
or: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;=
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t-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;=
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loat: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt; Date: Tue, 4 Aug 20=
20 10:34:17 -0500</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:=
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nt-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0=
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t-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: no=
rmal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal=
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rmal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: no=
ne; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt; From: "dave" &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</=
span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size=
: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; l=
etter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: n=
one; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;=
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; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ca=
ps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; t=
ext-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0p=
x; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; displ=
ay: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt; To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.=
team.net" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br style=3D"caret-col=
or: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;=
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t-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;=
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lass=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; fo=
nt-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: n=
ormal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-tra=
nsform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-wi=
dth: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" c=
lass=3D"">&gt; Subject: [Mgs] rivets without holes</span><br style=3D"caret-=
color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: norm=
al; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; t=
ext-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: norma=
l; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;=
" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana;=
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: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-=
transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke=
-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;=
" class=3D"">&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:003401d66a74$b83cc7f0$28=
[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; f=
ont-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: n=
ormal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-tra=
nsform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-wi=
dth: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb=
(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-v=
ariant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align=
: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-s=
pacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: n=
one; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; c=
harset=3D"us-ascii"</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-famil=
y: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; f=
ont-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0=
px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-te=
xt-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"care=
t-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: no=
rmal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal=
; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: no=
rmal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: no=
ne; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt;</span><br styl=
e=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-=
style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacin=
g: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-=
space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decor=
ation: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-fami=
ly: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;=
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: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit=
-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline=
 !important;" class=3D"">&gt; ISTR there was a thread a while back about riv=
ets without holes in them</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font=
-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: no=
rmal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-i=
ndent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -w=
ebkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=
=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-s=
tyle: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing=
: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-s=
pace: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decora=
tion: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt; (i.e. s=
olid tops).&nbsp; I need to rivet in the metal plates on the valve cover</sp=
an><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 1=
2px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; let=
ter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: no=
ne; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; t=
ext-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); f=
ont-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:=
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t-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;=
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: inline !important;" class=3D"">&gt; and I would like to do it correctly.</=
span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size=
: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; l=
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