Subject: [Mgs] Exhaust Sound

From: Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 21:15:20 +0000 (UTC)

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The 69 MGB GT I recently bought is sporting a cherry bomb muffler.=C2=A0 I =
find it annoying and raspy.=C2=A0 What is a good after market choice to rep=
lace it?
Mike MacLean1969 MGB GT1960 Bugeye=20
1956 Austin Healey BN2 LeMans

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I have always felt that the stock exhaust system had a well balanced sound, q=
uiet enough at moderate RPM and throaty at WOT. I have always bought stock r=
eplacement mufflers.

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ystem had a well balanced sound, quiet enough at moderate RPM and throaty at=
 WOT. I have always bought stock replacement mufflers.<br><br><div dir=3D"lt=
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lace it?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
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Yeah, I figure I wouldn=E2=80=99t live long enough for a stainless =
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">The 69 MGB GT I =
recently bought is sporting a cherry bomb muffler.&nbsp; I find it =
annoying and raspy.&nbsp; What is a good after market choice to replace =
it?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">Mike MacLean</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">1969 MGB GT</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">1960 Bugeye <br =
class=3D"">
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">1956 Austin Healey BN2 =
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    You won=E2=80=99t go wrong by fitting a Falcon stainless system. It is a=
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ld and good as new.=20
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<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: 12.0px;"><div>When I bought my car in 1989, it came with an aftermarket exhaust system. I think the name,&nbsp;</div>

<div>pressed into the muffler, was Zakspeed or Janspeed or something.</div>

<div>I liked the sound (music).</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>However, after hitting a road bump, it was beyond&nbsp;repair.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div>Replaced it, in 1994, with a Walker unit that is still on the car.</div>

<div>This one is too quiet to my liking (i.e. you hear the valve train too prominent...)</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Anyone know where to find the above mentioned Janspeed or Zakspeed?</div>

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<div>Bert</div>

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<p class="MsoNormal">About 2 or maybe even 3&nbsp; years ago I bought a stainless steel exhaust for my MGA from Moss since they were on sale.</p>

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This is a bit like "what colour should I paint my car?" (and people have =
asked that ...) but at least you can look at other cars.  An exhaust =
sound can be particular to the car although you can get an idea by =
listening to others, but you won't really know until you have spent the =
money and got it on.

I prefer the original sound, some after-market systems are =
ear-shattering, but having had the roadster over 30 years and the V8 =
over 20 I'd have replaced both several times by now if I'd stayed with =
original mild steel.  So I fitted stainless, the V8 is fine but the =
roadster was very disappointing - they have been described as 'farty' =
and not just on MGBs and that was how it was.  But after the middle box =
got partly crushed a couple of times it sounds much better!

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  The 69 MGB GT I recently bought is sporting a cherry bomb muffler.  I =
find it annoying and raspy.  What is a good after market choice to =
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Hello Paul,

I was once told that putting a copper tail piece after the 
silencer/baffle would give a melodious sound (sort of brass band??)  But 
never tried it

I understand that mild steel, not stainless, l gave a nicer sound.    
Stainless as a better sound was a stainless steel rig manufacturer 
advertisement !!!!

Cheers
Barrie

On 7/31/2020 4:02 AM, PaulHunt73 wrote:
> 
> This is a bit like "what colour should I paint my car?" (and people 
> have asked that ...) but at least you can look at other cars.  An 
> exhaust sound can be particular to the car although you can get an 
> idea by listening to others, but you won't really know until you have 
> spent the money and got it on.
> I prefer the original sound, some after-market systems 
> are ear-shattering, but having had the roadster over 30 years and the 
> V8 over 20 I'd have replaced both several times by now if I'd stayed 
> with original mild steel.  So I fitted stainless, the V8 is fine but 
> the roadster was very disappointing - they have been described as 
> 'farty' and not just on MGBs and that was how it was.  But after the 
> middle box got partly crushed a couple of times it sounds much better!
> PaulH.
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>     The 69 MGB GT I recently bought is sporting a cherry bomb
>     muffler.  I find it annoying and raspy.  What is a good after
>     market choice to replace it?
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        <br>
        I was once told that putting a copper tail piece after the
        silencer/baffle would give a melodious sound (sort of brass
        band??)  But never tried it<br>
        <br>
        I understand that mild steel, not stainless, l gave a nicer
        sound.    Stainless as a better sound was a stainless steel rig
        manufacturer advertisement !!!!<br>
        <br>
        Cheers<br>
        Barrie<br>
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      <div><font size="2">This is a bit like "what colour should I paint
          my car?" (and people have asked that ...) but at least you can
          look at other cars.  An exhaust sound can be particular to the
          car although you can get an idea by listening to others, but
          you won't really know until you have spent the money and got
          it on.</font></div>
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      <div><font size="2">I prefer the original sound, some after-market
          systems are ear-shattering, but having had the roadster over
          30 years and the V8 over 20 I'd have replaced both several
          times by now if I'd stayed with original mild steel.  So I
          fitted stainless, the V8 is fine but the roadster was very
          disappointing - they have been described as 'farty' and not
          just on MGBs and that was how it was.  But after the middle
          box got partly crushed a couple of times it sounds much
          better!</font></div>
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      <div><font size="2">PaulH.</font></div>
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          <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The 69 MGB GT I recently
            bought is sporting a cherry bomb muffler.  I find it
            annoying and raspy.  What is a good after market choice to
            replace it?</div>
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When we bought our 78 MGB, a couple years ago, it had what I believe to 
a some-what stock exhaust system (Muffler and Resonator, less the 
Catalytic).  The sound was pleasant and quite British.  Unfortunately 
the muffler gave out.  I replaced everything with a Tourist Trophy 
Stainless Steel Sport System from Moss.

The new system only had the resonator/rear muffler and proved to be a 
bit to loud for both my wife and myself.  I called Moss and tried to get 
a front muffler to replace the first pipe off the manifold but 
unfortunately they don't carry one.

My solution was to remove the front pipe (flanges at both ends) I cut 
out the appropriate length of pipe and welded in a new stainless steel 
MagnaFlow Muffler (model 11124) between the flanges.  If I remember 
correctly it was about 80 bucks at the local speed shop.  It wasn't a 
perfect fit but with a little shoving and pushing everything lined up 
and fit pretty good.

The end result was a much quieter exhaust with a nice dulled British sound.

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      When we bought our 78 MGB, a couple years ago, it had what I
      believe to a some-what stock exhaust system (Muffler and
      Resonator, less the Catalytic).  The sound was pleasant and quite
      British.  Unfortunately the muffler gave out.  I replaced
      everything with a Tourist Trophy Stainless Steel Sport System from
      Moss.  <br>
      <br>
      The new system only had the resonator/rear muffler and proved to
      be a bit to loud for both my wife and myself.  I called Moss and
      tried to get a front muffler to replace the first pipe off the
      manifold but unfortunately they don't carry one.<br>
      <br>
      My solution was to remove the front pipe (flanges at both ends) I
      cut out the appropriate length of pipe and welded in a new
      stainless steel MagnaFlow Muffler (model 11124) between the
      flanges.  If I remember correctly it was about 80 bucks at the
      local speed shop.  It wasn't a perfect fit but with a little
      shoving and pushing everything lined up and fit pretty good.<br>
      <br>
      The end result was a much quieter exhaust with a nice dulled
      British sound.<br>
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From: Max Heim <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 09:44:41 -0700

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Ah, you see, that=E2=80=99s the case for the exhaust system as an =
expendable maintenance item =E2=80=94 its location makes it vulnerable =
to road hazards. The fact that it will last 100 years does=E2=80=99t =
help if you wipe it out on a speed bump in three years.

I think the comment that stainless steel has a harsher sound than mild =
steel is also relevant.

But mainly, I=E2=80=99m too cheap to spend the money on something that =
isn=E2=80=99t an appearance or a performance item. In fact, the exhaust =
system on my car right now is a freebie cast-off from a local =
acquaintance who was =E2=80=9Cupgrading=E2=80=9D. The local exhaust shop =
welded up a few holes and put in a new muffler for less than $100. In =
service since the early 90s.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:24 AM, Bert Palte <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> When I bought my car in 1989, it came with an aftermarket exhaust =
system. I think the name,=20
> pressed into the muffler, was Zakspeed or Janspeed or something.
> I liked the sound (music).
> =20
> However, after hitting a road bump, it was beyond repair.
> =20
> Replaced it, in 1994, with a Walker unit that is still on the car.
> This one is too quiet to my liking (i.e. you hear the valve train too =
prominent...)
> =20
> Anyone know where to find the above mentioned Janspeed or Zakspeed?
> =20
> Bert
> =20
> =20
> =20
> Gesendet: Freitag, 31. Juli 2020 um 02:35 Uhr
> Von: "dave" <[email-masked]>
> An: [email-masked]
> Betreff: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Exhaust Sound
> It still looks absolutely brand new.  Of course, its also still in the =
box.

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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Ah, =
you see, that=E2=80=99s the case for the exhaust system as an expendable =
maintenance item =E2=80=94 its location makes it vulnerable to road =
hazards. The fact that it will last 100 years does=E2=80=99t help if you =
wipe it out on a speed bump in three years.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I think the comment that stainless =
steel has a harsher sound than mild steel is also relevant.<br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">But =
mainly, I=E2=80=99m too cheap to spend the money on something that =
isn=E2=80=99t an appearance or a performance item. In fact, the exhaust =
system on my car right now is a freebie cast-off from a local =
acquaintance who was =E2=80=9Cupgrading=E2=80=9D. The local exhaust shop =
welded up a few holes and put in a new muffler for less than $100. In =
service since the early 90s.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
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class=3D"">--</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; =
min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
</div>

<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:24 AM, Bert Palte &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana;font-size: 12.0px;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">When I bought my car in 1989, it came with an =
aftermarket exhaust system. I think the name,&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"">pressed into the muffler, was Zakspeed or Janspeed or =
something.</div>

<div class=3D"">I liked the sound (music).</div>

<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"">However, after hitting a road bump, it was =
beyond&nbsp;repair.</div>

<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">Replaced it, in 1994, with a Walker unit that is still =
on the car.</div>

<div class=3D"">This one is too quiet to my liking (i.e. you hear the =
valve train too prominent...)</div>

<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"">Anyone know where to find the above mentioned Janspeed =
or Zakspeed?</div>

<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"">Bert</div>

<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"">&nbsp;
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10px 10px; border-left:2px solid #C3D9E5; word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">
<div style=3D"margin:0 0 10px 0;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Gesendet:</b>&nbsp;Freitag, 31. Juli 2020 um 02:35 Uhr<br =
class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Von:</b>&nbsp;"dave" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">An:</b>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Betreff:</b>&nbsp;Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Exhaust Sound</div>

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<div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">About 2 or maybe even =
3&nbsp; years ago I bought a stainless steel exhaust for my MGA from =
Moss since they were on sale.</p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">It still =
looks absolutely brand new.&nbsp; Of course, its also still in the =
box.</p>

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From: Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 17:08:40 +0000 (UTC)

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 I just returned from the muffler shop to see about replacing the "cherry b=
omb" muffler with something a little more quiet and deep.=C2=A0 When it was=
 put up on the lift the single muffler looked like a stock MG muffler paint=
ed red, not a typical cherry bomb glass pack muffler.=C2=A0 APT in Riversid=
e (10 minutes from my house) sells a Maniflow performance system for $350.=
=C2=A0 I'm not sure I would be any better off sound wise with it.=C2=A0 Now=
 I am thinking of just buying a stock resonator and muffler from Moss and h=
aving the muffler shop put them in and be done with it.
Mike MacLean1969 MGB GT=20
1960 Bugeye1956 BN2 Lemans

    On Friday, July 31, 2020, 9:44:48 AM PDT, Max Heim <[email-masked]> w=
rote: =20
=20
 Ah, you see, that=E2=80=99s the case for the exhaust system as an expendab=
le maintenance item =E2=80=94 its location makes it vulnerable to road haza=
rds. The fact that it will last 100 years does=E2=80=99t help if you wipe i=
t out on a speed bump in three years.
I think the comment that stainless steel has a harsher sound than mild stee=
l is also relevant.

But mainly, I=E2=80=99m too cheap to spend the money on something that isn=
=E2=80=99t an appearance or a performance item. In fact, the exhaust system=
 on my car right now is a freebie cast-off from a local acquaintance who wa=
s =E2=80=9Cupgrading=E2=80=9D. The local exhaust shop welded up a few holes=
 and put in a new muffler for less than $100. In service since the early 90=
s.

--Max Heim'66 MGB

On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:24 AM, Bert Palte <[email-masked]> wrote:
When I bought my car in 1989, it came with an aftermarket exhaust system. I=
 think the name,=C2=A0pressed into the muffler, was Zakspeed or Janspeed or=
 something.I liked the sound (music).=C2=A0However, after hitting a road bu=
mp, it was beyond=C2=A0repair.=C2=A0Replaced it, in 1994, with a Walker uni=
t that is still on the car.This one is too quiet to my liking (i.e. you hea=
r the valve train too prominent...)=C2=A0Anyone know where to find the abov=
e mentioned Janspeed or Zakspeed?=C2=A0Bert=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Gesendet:=C2=
=A0Freitag, 31. Juli 2020 um 02:35 Uhr
Von:=C2=A0"dave" <[email-masked]>
An:=C2=[email-masked]
Betreff:=C2=A0Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Exhaust Sound
About 2 or maybe even 3=C2=A0 years ago I bought a stainless steel exhaust =
for my MGA from Moss since they were on sale.
=C2=A0

It still looks absolutely brand new.=C2=A0 Of course, its also still in the=
 box.

[email-masked]

Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/rrengineer.mike@att.=
net
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><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I just returned from the muf=
fler shop to see about replacing the "cherry bomb" muffler with something a=
 little more quiet and deep.&nbsp; When it was put up on the lift the singl=
e muffler looked like a stock MG muffler painted red, not a typical cherry =
bomb glass pack muffler.&nbsp; APT in Riverside (10 minutes from my house) =
sells a Maniflow performance system for $350.&nbsp; I'm not sure I would be=
 any better off sound wise with it.&nbsp; Now I am thinking of just buying =
a stock resonator and muffler from Moss and having the muffler shop put the=
m in and be done with it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike MacLean</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false">1969 MGB GT <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false">1960 Bugeye</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">1956 BN=
2 Lemans<br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"yahoo_quoted_6428703212" class=3D"yahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Friday, July 31, 2020, 9:44:48 AM PDT, Max Heim &lt;=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv9016848589"><div>Ah, you see, that=E2=80=
=99s the case for the exhaust system as an expendable maintenance item =E2=
=80=94 its location makes it vulnerable to road hazards. The fact that it w=
ill last 100 years does=E2=80=99t help if you wipe it out on a speed bump i=
n three years.<div class=3D"yiv9016848589"><br class=3D"yiv9016848589" clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv9016848589">I think the comment that stai=
nless steel has a harsher sound than mild steel is also relevant.<br class=
=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589"><br class=3D=
"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv9016848589">But mainl=
y, I=E2=80=99m too cheap to spend the money on something that isn=E2=80=99t=
 an appearance or a performance item. In fact, the exhaust system on my car=
 right now is a freebie cast-off from a local acquaintance who was =E2=80=
=9Cupgrading=E2=80=9D. The local exhaust shop welded up a few holes and put=
 in a new muffler for less than $100. In service since the early 90s.</div>=
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589"><br class=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div class=3D"yiv9016848589"><br class=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none">=
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);letter-spacing:nor=
mal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px=
;word-wrap:break-word;"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"color:rgb(0, =
0, 0);letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space=
:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word;"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589=
" style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;">--</div><div class=3D"yiv9016848589"=
 style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;min-height:16px;">Max Heim</div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;">'66 MGB</div></d=
iv></div>
</div>

<div><br class=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv901=
6848589" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589yqt1541490672" id=3D"yiv9=
016848589yqtfd08663"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589">On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:24=
 AM, Bert Palte &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv90168485=
89" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:palte=
@gmx.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"yiv9016848589Apple=
-interchange-newline" clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589"><div clas=
s=3D"yiv9016848589"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"font-family:Verda=
na;font-size:12.0px;"><div class=3D"yiv9016848589">When I bought my car in =
1989, it came with an aftermarket exhaust system. I think the name,&nbsp;</=
div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">pressed into the muffler, was Zakspeed or Jans=
peed or something.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">I liked the sound (music).</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">However, after hitting a road bump, it was bey=
ond&nbsp;repair.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">Replaced it, in 1994, with a Walker unit that =
is still on the car.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">This one is too quiet to my liking (i.e. you h=
ear the valve train too prominent...)</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">Anyone know where to find the above mentioned =
Janspeed or Zakspeed?</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">Bert</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">&nbsp;
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"margin:10px 5px 5px 10px;padding:10px=
 0 10px 10px;border-left:2px solid #C3D9E5;word-wrap:break-word;">
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589" style=3D"margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b class=3D"yiv90=
16848589">Gesendet:</b>&nbsp;Freitag, 31. Juli 2020 um 02:35 Uhr<br class=
=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none">
<b class=3D"yiv9016848589">Von:</b>&nbsp;"dave" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv9016848589" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br=
 class=3D"yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none">
<b class=3D"yiv9016848589">An:</b>&nbsp;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
class=3D"yiv9016848589" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"=
yiv9016848589" clear=3D"none">
<b class=3D"yiv9016848589">Betreff:</b>&nbsp;Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Exhaust Sound<=
/div>

<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589">
<div class=3D"yiv9016848589WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv9016848589MsoNormal=
">About 2 or maybe even 3&nbsp; years ago I bought a stainless steel exhaus=
t for my MGA from Moss since they were on sale.</p><div class=3D"yiv9016848=
589">&nbsp;<br class=3D"yiv9016848589webkit-block-placeholder" clear=3D"non=
e"></div><p class=3D"yiv9016848589MsoNormal">It still looks absolutely bran=
d new.&nbsp; Of course, its also still in the box.</p>

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I replaced the stock muffler with a walker; kept the rest of the =
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> On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Max Heim <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
steel is also relevant.
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
replaced the stock muffler with a walker; kept the rest of the standard =
system.<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Max Heim &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Ah, you see, that=E2=80=99=
s the case for the exhaust system as an expendable maintenance item =E2=80=
=94 its location makes it vulnerable to road hazards. The fact that it =
will last 100 years does=E2=80=99t help if you wipe it out on a speed =
bump in three years.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I=
 think the comment that stainless steel has a harsher sound than mild =
steel is also relevant.<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">But mainly, I=E2=80=99m too cheap to =
spend the money on something that isn=E2=80=99t an appearance or a =
performance item. In fact, the exhaust system on my car right now is a =
freebie cast-off from a local acquaintance who was =E2=80=9Cupgrading=E2=80=
=9D. The local exhaust shop welded up a few holes and put in a new =
muffler for less than $100. In service since the early 90s.</div><div =
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From: Charley Robinson <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:41:29 -0500

I have the Monza system in my B that I bought from Victoria British back 
in 1999. I chose it because the resonator is a small diameter with 
curved ends; figured it wouldn't get hung up on bumps and such.  VB had 
the best price at the time. The exhaust note is a bit louder than the 
stock system but it has a throaty sound.  Everyone whose heard it likes 
the sound.  The purist mightn't like it because it has two chromed 
stingers protruding out the back but I don't mind.

  I installed it myself with the car on jack stands.  Got everything 
positioned the way I wanted with the provided hangers and clamps, then 
took the car to a muffler shop and had all the joints welded up.  Then I 
removed the clamps to eliminate all the protrubants and called it done.  
Been in there for a lot of years.......

CR

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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 23:12:56 +0000 (UTC)

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 Just bought a Walker muffler to weld into the pipe at the center of the ca=
r.=C2=A0 Ordered it on CARID for $30 shipped.=C2=A0 Even got to specify inl=
et and outlet pipe size to match my car.=C2=A0 Get that welded in next week=
 and see if I'm closer to the sound I am looking for.=C2=A0 Heck, not takin=
g too big a chance with $30 investment.
Mike MacLean69 MBG GT60 Bugeye56 BN2 LeMans

    On Friday, July 31, 2020, 2:41:57 PM PDT, Charley Robinson <ccrobins@kt=
c.com> wrote: =20
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curved ends; figured it wouldn't get hung up on bumps and such.=C2=A0 VB ha=
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stock system but it has a throaty sound.=C2=A0 Everyone whose heard it like=
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the sound.=C2=A0 The purist mightn't like it because it has two chromed=20
stingers protruding out the back but I don't mind.

 =C2=A0I installed it myself with the car on jack stands.=C2=A0 Got everyth=
ing=20
positioned the way I wanted with the provided hangers and clamps, then=20
took the car to a muffler shop and had all the joints welded up.=C2=A0 Then=
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removed the clamps to eliminate all the protrubants and called it done.=C2=
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Been in there for a lot of years.......

CR

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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have the Monza system in my B that =
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because the resonator is a small diameter with <br clear=3D"none">curved en=
ds; figured it wouldn't get hung up on bumps and such.&nbsp; VB had <br cle=
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mightn't like it because it has two chromed <br clear=3D"none">stingers pro=
truding out the back but I don't mind.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
> &nbsp;I installed it myself with the car on jack stands.&nbsp; Got everyt=
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ad all the joints welded up.&nbsp; Then I <br clear=3D"none">removed the cl=
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