Subject: Re: [Mgs] Speed Bleeders

From: Max Heim via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 10:45:14 -0700

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What Barney said. I was recently extremely irritated to find that the only r=
ear wheel brake cylinders I could buy for my 1967 Plymouth had 7mm hexes on t=
he bleeders. Who even has a 7mm wrench? And when I bought a cheap set of sma=
ll metric wrenches just for this purpose, the fit was so bad it rounded off t=
he equally cheap hex.

I tapped out the holes and installed SAE (I think 5/16) bleed screws.

Sent from my iPad

> On May 22, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Barney Gaylord via Mgs <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF Actually it's the other way around.  When these things are manuf=
actured overseas, metric hex stock is common while imperial dimension stock i=
s near impossible to source.  Result is that replacement parts are often del=
ivered with metric dimensions, so we are now forced to be adding metric tool=
s to our traveling tool kits.
>=20
>=20
> At 12:31 PM 5/22/2020, Robert's New iPad via Mgs wrote:
>>    Perhaps there is, or one can be extrapolated from their listing for di=
fferent cars, in which they say that all metric-thread SBs are SAE wrench si=
ze, because metric stock is more expensive.
>>    To continue research, we must go to McMaster-Carr and see if their hex=
 stock costs more in the larger sizes, and how much.=20
>=20
>=20
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>>>=20
>>>> Is there a technical or logical reason they are all different?
>>>>=20
>>>> Dan D
>>>> '76B, '65B
>>>> Central NJ USA
>>>> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>>=20
>>=20
>>>> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:42 AM Osborne, Paul via Mgs <[email-masked].=
net> wrote:
>>>> It would have good if when they made them if all the same wrench size. I=
t is a PIA, 3 diff. sizes.=20
>>>> met 3 cents.=20
>>>> paul o
>>>> On May 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Robert's New iPad via Mgs <[email-masked].=
net> wrote:
>>>>   One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders a couple of weeks ago, and=
 I bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for rear, and S=
B 71620 for the clutch.  It was time to change the hydraulic fluid, so seeme=
d opportune to install these.
>>>>   Thanks for the recommendation.  They made the job quick and neat.
>>>>   Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to pinch the b=
rake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and pinch the clutch li=
ne even if you don=E2=80=99t do the others.   All three SBs were of differen=
t wrench size from original bleed screws.  Have wrenches ready for both size=
s.
>>>>   We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the observer learne=
d, watching from underneath, was that three pumps for each wheel will bring c=
lear, clean fluid to both front and rear brakes.=20
>>>>  $38 well spent.
>>>> Bob
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">What Barney said. I was recently extremely i=
rritated to find that the only rear wheel brake cylinders I could buy for my=
 1967 Plymouth had 7mm hexes on the bleeders. Who even has a 7mm wrench? And=
 when I bought a cheap set of small metric wrenches just for this purpose, t=
he fit was so bad it rounded off the equally cheap hex.<div><br></div><div>I=
 tapped out the holes and installed SAE (I think 5/16) bleed screws.<br><br>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite">On May 22, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Barney Gaylord via Mgs &lt;mgs@auto=
x.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

Actually it's the other way around.&nbsp; When these things are
manufactured overseas, metric hex stock is common while imperial
dimension stock is near impossible to source.&nbsp; Result is that
replacement parts are often delivered with metric dimensions, so we are
now forced to be adding metric tools to our traveling tool kits.<br><br>
<br>
At 12:31 PM 5/22/2020, Robert's New iPad via Mgs wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps ther=
e is,
or one can be extrapolated from their listing for different cars, in
which they say that all metric-thread SBs are SAE wrench size, because
metric stock is more expensive.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; To continue research, we must go to McMaster-Carr and see if
their hex stock costs more in the larger sizes, and how much.&nbsp;
</blockquote><br><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">On May 22, 2020, at 11:11=
 AM,
Dan DiBiase
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">Is there a technical or l=
ogical
reason they are all different?<br><br>
Dan D<br>
'76B, '65B<br>
Central NJ USA<br>
<a href=3D"http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/">
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a></blockquote></blockquote><br><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 1=
0:42 AM
Osborne, Paul via Mgs
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
wrote:
<dl>
<dd>It would have good if when they made them if all the same wrench
size. It is a PIA, 3 diff. sizes. <br>

</dd><dd>met 3 cents. <br>

</dd><dd>paul o</dd></dl></blockquote></blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">
<dl>
<dd>On May 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Robert's New iPad via Mgs
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>

</dd><dd>&nbsp; One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders a couple of weeks=

ago, and I bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for
rear, and SB 71620 for the clutch.&nbsp; It was time to change the
hydraulic fluid, so seemed opportune to install these.
</dd><dd>&nbsp; Thanks for the recommendation.&nbsp; They made the job quick=

and neat.
</dd><dd>&nbsp; Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to
pinch the brake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and pinch
the clutch line even if you don=E2=80=99t do the others.&nbsp;&nbsp; All thr=
ee
SBs were of different wrench size from original bleed screws.&nbsp; Have
wrenches ready for both sizes.
</dd><dd>&nbsp; We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the observ=
er
learned, watching from underneath, was that three pumps for each wheel
will bring clear, clean fluid to both front and rear brakes.&nbsp;=20
</dd><dd>&nbsp;$38 well spent.
</dd><dd>Bob=20
</dd></dl></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>

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From: Max Heim via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 11:50:14 -0700

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Sure. But the requirement of carrying ONE metric tool for a vintage =
all-SAE vehicle is understandably irksome. Plus, it means that tool =
isn=E2=80=99t in the drawer for when one is working on a modern metric =
vehicle.

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'66 MGB

> On May 22, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Osborne, Paul <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
> In fear of my comment,,, a good set of mechanic wrenches, metric, has =
all the sizes in 1mm increments. The set you buy from say HF or even =
Sears Cobalt  does not.=20
>=20
> paul o
>=20
>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Max Heim via Mgs <[email-masked] =
>>=20
>> What Barney said. I was recently extremely irritated to find that the =
only rear wheel brake cylinders I could buy for my 1967 Plymouth had 7mm =
hexes on the bleeders. Who even has a 7mm wrench? And when I bought a =
cheap set of small metric wrenches just for this purpose, the fit was so =
bad it rounded off the equally cheap hex.
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Barney Gaylord via Mgs =
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF Actually it's the other way around.  When these things are =
manufactured overseas, metric hex stock is common while imperial =
dimension stock is near impossible to source.  Result is that =
replacement parts are often delivered with metric dimensions, so we are =
now forced to be adding metric tools to our traveling tool kits.
>>>>    Perhaps there is, or one can be extrapolated from their listing =
for different cars, in which they say that all metric-thread SBs are SAE =
wrench size, because metric stock is more expensive.
>>>>    To continue research, we must go to McMaster-Carr and see if =
their hex stock costs more in the larger sizes, and how much.=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> On May 22, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email-masked] =
>>>>=20
>>>>> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ =
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__dandibiase.cbintouc=
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>>>>> It would have good if when they made them if all the same wrench =
size. It is a PIA, 3 diff. sizes.=20
>>>>> met 3 cents.=20
>>>>> paul o
>>>>>> On May 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Robert's New iPad via Mgs =
>>>>>>   One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders a couple of weeks =
ago, and I bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for =
rear, and SB 71620 for the clutch.  It was time to change the hydraulic =
fluid, so seemed opportune to install these.
>>>>>>   Thanks for the recommendation.  They made the job quick and =
neat.
>>>>>>   Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to =
pinch the brake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and =
pinch the clutch line even if you don=E2=80=99t do the others.   All =
three SBs were of different wrench size from original  bleed screws.  =
Have wrenches ready for both sizes.
>>>>>>   We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the observer =
learned, watching from underneath, was that three pumps for each wheel =
will bring clear, clean fluid to both front and rear brakes.=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Sure.=
 But the requirement of carrying ONE metric tool for a vintage all-SAE =
vehicle is understandably irksome. Plus, it means that tool isn=E2=80=99t =
in the drawer for when one is working on a modern metric vehicle.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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class=3D"">--</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; =
min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>

<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On May 22, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Osborne, Paul &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D"">

<div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">
In fear of my comment,,, a good set of mechanic wrenches, metric, has =
all the sizes in 1mm increments. The set you buy from say HF or even =
Sears Cobalt &nbsp;does not.&nbsp;
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">paul o</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On May 22, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Max Heim via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">What Barney said. I was recently extremely =
irritated to find that the only rear wheel brake cylinders I could buy =
for my 1967 Plymouth had 7mm hexes on the bleeders. Who even has a 7mm =
wrench? And when I bought a cheap set of small
 metric wrenches just for this purpose, the fit was so bad it rounded =
off the equally cheap hex.
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div class=3D"">I tapped out the holes and installed SAE (I think 5/16) =
bleed screws.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Sent from my iPad</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On May 22, 2020, at 10:04 AM, =
Barney Gaylord via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF Actually it's the other way =
around.&nbsp; When these things are manufactured overseas, metric hex =
stock is common while imperial dimension stock is near impossible to =
source.&nbsp; Result is that replacement parts are often delivered with =
metric
 dimensions, so we are now forced to be adding metric tools to our =
traveling tool kits.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
At 12:31 PM 5/22/2020, Robert's New iPad via Mgs wrote:<br class=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps =
there is, or one can be extrapolated from their listing for different =
cars, in which they say that all metric-thread SBs are SAE wrench size, =
because metric stock is more expensive.<br class=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp; To continue research, we must go to McMaster-Carr and see =
if their hex stock costs more in the larger sizes, and how much.&nbsp;
</blockquote>
<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">On May 22, 2020, at =
11:11 AM, Dan DiBiase &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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<dl class=3D""><dd class=3D"">It would have good if when they made them =
if all the same wrench size. It is a PIA, 3 diff. sizes.
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</dd><dd class=3D"">met 3 cents. <br class=3D"">
</dd><dd class=3D"">paul o</dd></dl>
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</dd><dd class=3D"">&nbsp; One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders a =
couple of weeks ago, and I bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front =
brakes, SB 1428 for rear, and SB 71620 for the clutch.&nbsp; It was time =
to change the hydraulic fluid, so seemed opportune to install
 these. </dd><dd class=3D"">&nbsp; Thanks for the recommendation.&nbsp; =
They made the job quick and neat. </dd><dd class=3D"">&nbsp; =
Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to pinch the =
brake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and pinch the =
clutch line even if you don=E2=80=99t do the others.&nbsp;&nbsp; All =
three SBs were of different wrench size from original
 bleed screws.&nbsp; Have wrenches ready for both sizes. </dd><dd =
class=3D"">&nbsp; We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the =
observer learned, watching from underneath, was that three pumps for =
each wheel will bring clear, clean fluid to both front and rear =
brakes.&nbsp;
</dd><dd class=3D"">&nbsp;$38 well spent. </dd><dd class=3D"">Bob =
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