Subject: Re: [Mgs] Speed Bleeders

From: "Osborne, Paul via Mgs" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 14:34:36 +0000

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Is there a technical or logical reason they are all different?

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:42 AM Osborne, Paul via Mgs <[email-masked]>
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> It would have good if when they made them if all the same wrench size. It
> is a PIA, 3 diff. sizes.
>
> met 3 cents.
>
> paul o
>
> On May 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Robert's New iPad via Mgs <[email-masked]=
t>
> wrote:
>
>   One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders a couple of weeks ago, and I
> bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for rear, and S=
B
> 71620 for the clutch.  It was time to change the hydraulic fluid, so seem=
ed
> opportune to install these.
>   Thanks for the recommendation.  They made the job quick and neat.
>   Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to pinch the
> brake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and pinch the clutc=
h
> line even if you don=E2=80=99t do the others.   All three SBs were of dif=
ferent
> wrench size from original bleed screws.  Have wrenches ready for both siz=
es.
>   We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the observer learned,
> watching from underneath, was that three pumps for each wheel will bring
> clear, clean fluid to both front and rear brakes.
>  $38 well spent.
> Bob
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Is there a technical or logical reason they are all differ=
ent?<div><br></div><div>Dan D</div><div>&#39;76B, &#39;65B</div><div>Centra=
l NJ USA<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" d=
ata-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://dandib=
iase.cbintouch.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a>=
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=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:42 AM Osborne, Pau=
l via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
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It would have good if when they made them if all the same wrench size. It i=
s a PIA, 3 diff. sizes.
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<div>met 3 cents.=C2=A0</div>
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<div>paul o</div>
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ks ago, and I bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for=
 rear, and SB 71620 for the clutch.=C2=A0 It was time to change the hydraul=
ic fluid, so seemed opportune to install
 these.<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks for the recommendation.=C2=A0 They made the job quick an=
d neat.<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to pinc=
h the brake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and pinch the c=
lutch line even if you don=E2=80=99t do the others. =C2=A0=C2=A0All three S=
Bs were of different wrench size from original bleed screws.
 =C2=A0Have wrenches ready for both sizes.<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the observer =
learned, watching from underneath, was that three pumps for each wheel will=
 bring clear, clean fluid to both front and rear brakes. =C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0$38 well spent.<br>
Bob<br>
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Dan  I think it is as simple as different threads.

On Fri, May 22, 2020, 10:15 AM Dan DiBiase via Mgs <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:42 AM Osborne, Paul via Mgs <[email-masked]=
t>
> wrote:
>
>> It would have good if when they made them if all the same wrench size. I=
t
>> is a PIA, 3 diff. sizes.
>>
>> met 3 cents.
>>
>> paul o
>>
>> On May 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Robert's New iPad via Mgs <
>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>   One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders a couple of weeks ago, and =
I
>> bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for rear, and =
SB
>> 71620 for the clutch.  It was time to change the hydraulic fluid, so see=
med
>> brake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and pinch the clut=
ch
>> line even if you don=E2=80=99t do the others.   All three SBs were of di=
fferent
>> wrench size from original bleed screws.  Have wrenches ready for both si=
zes.
>>   We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the observer learned=
,
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Dan=C2=A0 I think it is as simple as different threa=
ds.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Fri, May 22, 2020, 10:15 AM Dan DiBiase via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Is there a technical or logical reason t=
hey are all different?<div><br></div><div>Dan D</div><div>&#39;76B, &#39;65=
B</div><div>Central NJ USA<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-smar=
tmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://dandibiase.cbi=
ntouch.com/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://dandibiase.cbintou=
ch.com/</a></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:42 AM Osb=
orne, Paul via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
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It would have good if when they made them if all the same wrench size. It i=
s a PIA, 3 diff. sizes.
<div><br>
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<div>met 3 cents.=C2=A0</div>
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<div>paul o</div>
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<div>On May 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Robert&#39;s New iPad via Mgs &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgs@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div>=C2=A0=C2=A0One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders a couple of wee=
ks ago, and I bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for=
 rear, and SB 71620 for the clutch.=C2=A0 It was time to change the hydraul=
ic fluid, so seemed opportune to install
 these.<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks for the recommendation.=C2=A0 They made the job quick an=
d neat.<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to pinc=
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rent cars, in which they say that all metric-thread SBs are SAE wrench size,=
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   To continue research, we must go to McMaster-Carr and see if their hex st=
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>> It would have good if when they made them if all the same wrench size. It=
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>>> On May 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Robert's New iPad via Mgs <[email-masked]=
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>>>   One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders a couple of weeks ago, and I=
 bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for rear, and SB 7=
1620 for the clutch.  It was time to change the hydraulic fluid, so seemed o=
pportune to install these.
>>>   Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to pinch the b=
rake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and pinch the clutch li=
ne even if you don=E2=80=99t do the others.   All three SBs were of differen=
t wrench size from original bleed screws.  Have wrenches ready for both size=
s.
>>>   We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the observer learned=
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h size, because metric stock is more expensive.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;=
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s ago, and I bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for r=
ear, and SB 71620 for the clutch.&nbsp; It was time to change the hydraulic f=
luid, so seemed opportune to install
 these.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks for the recommendation.&nbsp; They made the job quick and=
 neat.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to pinch=
 the brake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and pinch the clu=
tch line even if you don=E2=80=99t do the others. &nbsp;&nbsp;All three SBs w=
ere of different wrench size from original bleed screws.
 &nbsp;Have wrenches ready for both sizes.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the observer l=
earned, watching from underneath, was that three pumps for each wheel will b=
ring clear, clean fluid to both front and rear brakes. &nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;$38 well spent.<br>
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Actually it's the other way around.  When these=20
things are manufactured overseas, metric hex=20
stock is common while imperial dimension stock is=20
near impossible to source.  Result is that=20
replacement parts are often delivered with metric=20
dimensions, so we are now forced to be adding=20
metric tools to our traveling tool kits.

At 12:31 PM 5/22/2020, Robert's New iPad via Mgs wrote:
>    Perhaps there is, or one can be extrapolated=20
> from their listing for different cars, in which=20
> they say that all metric-thread SBs are SAE=20
> wrench size, because metric stock is more expensive.
>    To continue research, we must go to=20
> McMaster-Carr and see if their hex stock costs=20
> more in the larger sizes, and how much.

>On May 22, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan DiBiase=20
>
>><http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/>http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

>>On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:42 AM Osborne, Paul=20
>>It would have good if when they made them if=20
>>all the same wrench size. It is a PIA, 3 diff. sizes.
>>
>>met 3 cents.
>>
>>paul o

>>>On May 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Robert's New iPad=20
>>>
>>>   One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders=20
>>> a couple of weeks ago, and I bought them for=20
>>> my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for=20
>>> rear, and SB 71620 for the clutch.  It was=20
>>> time to change the hydraulic fluid, so seemed opportune to install=
 these.
>>>   Instructions are OK, but let me add that=20
>>> one should try to pinch the brake lines with=20
>>> ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and=20
>>> pinch the clutch line even if you don=E2=80=99t do=20
>>> the others.   All three SBs were of different=20
>>> wrench size from original bleed screws.  Have wrenches ready for both=
 sizes.
>>>   We had two cars to do, hence had two=20
>>> people. What the observer learned, watching=20
>>> from underneath, was that three pumps for=20
>>> each wheel will bring clear, clean fluid to both front and rear brakes.
>>>  $38 well spent.
>>>Bob

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Actually it's the other way around.&nbsp; When these things are
manufactured overseas, metric hex stock is common while imperial
dimension stock is near impossible to source.&nbsp; Result is that
replacement parts are often delivered with metric dimensions, so we are
now forced to be adding metric tools to our traveling tool kits.<br><br>
<br>
At 12:31 PM 5/22/2020, Robert's New iPad via Mgs wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps there is=
,
or one can be extrapolated from their listing for different cars, in
which they say that all metric-thread SBs are SAE wrench size, because
metric stock is more expensive.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; To continue research, we must go to McMaster-Carr and see if
their hex stock costs more in the larger sizes, and how much.&nbsp;
</blockquote><br><br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">On May 22, 2020, at 11:11 AM,
Dan DiBiase
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">Is there a technical or logic=
al
reason they are all different?<br><br>
Dan D<br>
'76B, '65B<br>
Central NJ USA<br>
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http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a></blockquote></blockquote><br><br>
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<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:42=
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Osborne, Paul via Mgs
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<dl>
<dd>It would have good if when they made them if all the same wrench
size. It is a PIA, 3 diff. sizes. <br><br>

<dd>met 3 cents. <br><br>

<dd>paul o</blockquote></blockquote>
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<dd>On May 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Robert's New iPad via Mgs
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wrote:<br><br>

<dd>&nbsp; One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders a couple of weeks
ago, and I bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for
rear, and SB 71620 for the clutch.&nbsp; It was time to change the
hydraulic fluid, so seemed opportune to install these.<br>

<dd>&nbsp; Thanks for the recommendation.&nbsp; They made the job quick
and neat.<br>

<dd>&nbsp; Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to
pinch the brake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and pinch
the clutch line even if you don=E2=80=99t do the others.&nbsp;&nbsp; All thr=
ee
SBs were of different wrench size from original bleed screws.&nbsp; Have
wrenches ready for both sizes.<br>

<dd>&nbsp; We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the observer
learned, watching from underneath, was that three pumps for each wheel
will bring clear, clean fluid to both front and rear brakes.&nbsp; <br>

<dd>&nbsp;$38 well spent.<br>

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size. It is a PIA, 3 diff. sizes. <br>

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<dd>&nbsp; One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders a couple of weeks
ago, and I bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB 1428 for
rear, and SB 71620 for the clutch.&nbsp; It was time to change the
hydraulic fluid, so seemed opportune to install these.
<dd>&nbsp; Thanks for the recommendation.&nbsp; They made the job quick
and neat.
<dd>&nbsp; Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to
pinch the brake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and pinch
the clutch line even if you don=E2=80=99t do the others.&nbsp;&nbsp; All thr=
ee
SBs were of different wrench size from original bleed screws.&nbsp; Have
wrenches ready for both sizes.
<dd>&nbsp; We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the observer
learned, watching from underneath, was that three pumps for each wheel
will bring clear, clean fluid to both front and rear brakes.&nbsp;=20
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I think British Tools & Fasteners may have required tools???

Cheers
Barrie

On 5/22/2020 12:31 PM, Robert's New iPad via Mgs wrote:
>    Perhaps there is, or one can be extrapolated from their listing for 
> different cars, in which they say that all metric-thread SBs are SAE 
>    To continue research, we must go to McMaster-Carr and see if their 
> hex stock costs more in the larger sizes, and how much.
>
> On May 22, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email-masked] 
>
>> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:42 AM Osborne, Paul via Mgs 
>>
>>     It would have good if when they made them if all the same wrench
>>     size. It is a PIA, 3 diff. sizes.
>>
>>     met 3 cents.
>>
>>     paul o
>>
>>>     On May 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Robert's New iPad via Mgs
>>>
>>>       One kind lister recommended Speed Bleeders a couple of weeks
>>>     ago, and I bought them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB
>>>     1428 for rear, and SB 71620 for the clutch. It was time to
>>>     change the hydraulic fluid, so seemed opportune to install these.
>>>       Instructions are OK, but let me add that one should try to
>>>     pinch the brake lines with ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid,
>>>     and pinch the clutch line even if you don’t do the others.   All
>>>     three SBs were of different wrench size from original bleed
>>>     screws.  Have wrenches ready for both sizes.
>>>       We had two cars to do, hence had two people. What the observer
>>>     learned, watching from underneath, was that three pumps for each
>>>     wheel will bring clear, clean fluid to both front and rear brakes.
>>>      $38 well spent.
>>>     Bob
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    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">I think British Tools &amp;
        Fasteners may have required tools???<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/22/2020 12:31 PM, Robert's New
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      <div dir="ltr">   Perhaps there is, or one can be extrapolated
        from their listing for different cars, in which they say that
        all metric-thread SBs are SAE wrench size, because metric stock
        is more expensive.</div>
      <div dir="ltr">   To continue research, we must go to
        McMaster-Carr and see if their hex stock costs more in the
        larger sizes, and how much.  </div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        On May 22, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan DiBiase &lt;<a
          href="mailto:[email-masked]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Is there a technical or logical reason they are
            all different?
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                It would have good if when they made them if all the
                same wrench size. It is a PIA, 3 diff. sizes.
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                <div>met 3 cents. </div>
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                        <div>  One kind lister recommended Speed
                          Bleeders a couple of weeks ago, and I bought
                          them for my MGB, SB 3824 for front brakes, SB
                          1428 for rear, and SB 71620 for the clutch. 
                          It was time to change the hydraulic fluid, so
                          seemed opportune to install these.<br>
                            Thanks for the recommendation.  They made
                          the job quick and neat.<br>
                            Instructions are OK, but let me add that one
                          should try to pinch the brake lines with
                          ViceGrips to minimise loss of fluid, and pinch
                          the clutch line even if you don’t do the
                          others.   All three SBs were of different
                          wrench size from original bleed screws.  Have
                          wrenches ready for both sizes.<br>
                            We had two cars to do, hence had two people.
                          What the observer learned, watching from
                          underneath, was that three pumps for each
                          wheel will bring clear, clean fluid to both
                          front and rear brakes.  <br>
                           $38 well spent.<br>
                          Bob<br>
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