Subject: Re: [Mgs] Wires to Bolt-on Wheels

From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 08:27:14 +0100 f7iJyDxUPH8NFNGsj/krNTibvQ6znEHMrXzIHk04bdYEL9SiW9etI5jF7I6pk2By6vTb/NeCBxXPGw==

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Wire wheel axles are a couple of inches shorter than stud wheel so if =
you put standard wire wheels on standard WW hubs on a chrome bumper car =
the rear tyres will likely foul the arches.  RB cars are usually OK =
unless they have been lowered.  There are conversion hubs that bring the =
wheels in by about half an inch or so, but you can still get fouling =
especially on the left.  BT, DT, eventually got a pukka wire wheel axle =
with my aftermarket Dunlop WW wheels but they still rub a bit with 175s =
as the inset doesn't seem to be as much as the originals, the rear track =
being 1270mm instead of 1250mm.

Minilites may be OK if the inset is suitable, but really you won't know =
with either wheel type until you get them on the car as suppliers =
statements on inset etc. aren't always correct.

Used hubs need to be treated with caution, the splines narrow and lean =
over especially at the rear and if left will eventually shear.

PaulH.
  ----- Original Message -----=20

  Either my wire wheeled 1972 Roadster or 1968 GT will get Minilite =
Wheels.

  =20

  I=E2=80=99ll need to switch out the hubs for the bolt-ons. =20

  =20

  Since the hubs are not available new, I=E2=80=99ll have to find used =
hubs.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Wire wheel axles are a couple of inches shorter than =
stud=20
wheel so if you put standard wire wheels on standard WW hubs on a chrome =
bumper=20
car&nbsp;the rear tyres will likely foul the arches.&nbsp; RB cars are =
usually=20
OK unless they have been lowered.&nbsp; There are conversion hubs that =
bring the=20
wheels in by about half an inch or so, but you can still get fouling =
especially=20
on the left.&nbsp; BT, DT, eventually got a pukka wire wheel axle with =
my=20
aftermarket Dunlop WW wheels but they still rub a bit with 175s as the =
inset=20
doesn't seem to be as much as the originals, the rear track being 1270mm =
instead=20
of 1250mm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Minilites may be OK if the inset is suitable, but =
really you=20
won't know with either wheel type&nbsp;until you get them on the car as=20
suppliers statements on inset etc. aren't always correct.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Used hubs need to be treated with caution, the=20
splines&nbsp;narrow and lean over&nbsp;especially at the rear and if =
left will=20
eventually shear.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PaulH.</FONT></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Either my wire wheeled 1972 Roadster or 1968 GT =
will get=20
  Minilite Wheels.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99ll need to switch out the hubs for the =
bolt-ons.&nbsp;=20
  </P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Since the hubs are not available new, =
I=E2=80=99ll have to find=20
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Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 13:13:55 +0000

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Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 10:37:00 -0700

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why not get minlite knock offs and just use your existing setup?
https://mossmotors.com/mgb/wheels-tires/minilite-style-knockoff-wheels-6
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes

1967 MGB  

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:14 AM Osborne, Paul via Mgs <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> What I have found, and have done, is that the axle fitted to MGB from
> 1965-1980 the over all length is 1 3/4 shorter on the WW or 7/8 on each
> side from the center of the spring bracket to the outside. To help with t=
he
> difference in the offsets of the wheels, WW to Steel, you need a 1/4=E2=
=80=9D
> spacer between the wheel and the brake drum. But, always a but, the studs
> are now not long enough. Finding studs that will work was a PIA. We found
> that studs from a Toyota worked the best to fit the holes in the hub with
> out drilling the holes. Have done this 3 times now and it places the whee=
l
> almost in the center of the wheel cavity with no interference of the week
> to the body.  Good luck.
>
> The best solution is to find a steel wheel axle and use it. Overall cost
> should be about the same and a bit less work.
>
> paul o
>
> On May 20, 2020, at 3:27 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> Wire wheel axles are a couple of inches shorter than stud wheel so if you
> put standard wire wheels on standard WW hubs on a chrome bumper car the
> rear tyres will likely foul the arches.  RB cars are usually OK unless th=
ey
> have been lowered.  There are conversion hubs that bring the wheels in by
> about half an inch or so, but you can still get fouling especially on the
> left.  BT, DT, eventually got a pukka wire wheel axle with my aftermarket
> Dunlop WW wheels but they still rub a bit with 175s as the inset doesn't
> seem to be as much as the originals, the rear track being 1270mm instead =
of
> 1250mm.
>
> Minilites may be OK if the inset is suitable, but really you won't know
> with either wheel type until you get them on the car as suppliers
> Used hubs need to be treated with caution, the splines narrow and lean
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> Either my wire wheeled 1972 Roadster or 1968 GT will get Minilite Wheels.
>
> I=E2=80=99ll need to switch out the hubs for the bolt-ons.
>
> Since the hubs are not available new, I=E2=80=99ll have to find used hubs=
.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">why not get minlite=C2=A0knock offs and just use your exis=
ting setup?=C2=A0

<a href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/mgb/wheels-tires/minilite-style-knockoff-=
wheels-6">https://mossmotors.com/mgb/wheels-tires/minilite-style-knockoff-w=
heels-6</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<d=
iv>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#3=
9;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times=
 New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________=
________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine an=
d disk brakes</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img s=
rc=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=
=3D"MG"></div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-f=
amily:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"=
>A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</spa=
n><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:14 AM Osborne, Paul=
 via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">
What I have found, and have done, is that the axle fitted to MGB from 1965-=
1980 the over all length is 1 3/4 shorter on the WW or 7/8 on each side fro=
m the center of the spring bracket to the outside. To help with the differe=
nce in the offsets of the wheels,
 WW to Steel, you need a 1/4=E2=80=9D spacer between the wheel and the brak=
e drum. But, always a but, the studs are now not long enough. Finding studs=
 that will work was a PIA. We found that studs from a Toyota worked the bes=
t to fit the holes in the hub with out drilling
 the holes. Have done this 3 times now and it places the wheel almost in th=
e center of the wheel cavity with no interference of the week to the body.=
=C2=A0 Good luck.=C2=A0
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The best solution is to find a steel wheel axle and use it. Overall co=
st should be about the same and a bit less work.=C2=A0<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>paul o<br>
<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>On May 20, 2020, at 3:27 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</di=
v>
<br>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-v=
ariant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:star=
t;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<font size=3D"2">Wire wheel axles are a couple of inches shorter than stud =
wheel so if you put standard wire wheels on standard WW hubs on a chrome bu=
mper car=C2=A0the rear tyres will likely foul the arches.=C2=A0 RB cars are=
 usually OK unless they have been lowered.=C2=A0
 There are conversion hubs that bring the wheels in by about half an inch o=
r so, but you can still get fouling especially on the left.=C2=A0 BT, DT, e=
ventually got a pukka wire wheel axle with my aftermarket Dunlop WW wheels =
but they still rub a bit with 175s as
 the inset doesn&#39;t seem to be as much as the originals, the rear track =
being 1270mm instead of 1250mm.</font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-v=
ariant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:star=
t;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<font size=3D"2"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-v=
ariant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:star=
t;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<font size=3D"2">Minilites may be OK if the inset is suitable, but really y=
ou won&#39;t know with either wheel type=C2=A0until you get them on the car=
 as suppliers statements on inset etc. aren&#39;t always correct.</font></d=
iv>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-v=
ariant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:star=
t;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<font size=3D"2"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-v=
ariant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:star=
t;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<font size=3D"2">Used hubs need to be treated with caution, the splines=C2=
=A0narrow and lean over=C2=A0especially at the rear and if left will eventu=
ally shear.</font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-v=
ariant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:star=
t;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<font size=3D"2"></font>=C2=A0</div>
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<font size=3D"2">PaulH.</font></div>
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<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:1=
1pt">
Either my wire wheeled 1972 Roadster or 1968 GT will get Minilite Wheels.</=
div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:1=
1pt">
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:1=
1pt">
I=E2=80=99ll need to switch out the hubs for the bolt-ons.=C2=A0<span>=C2=
=A0</span></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:1=
1pt">
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div>
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:1=
1pt">
Since the hubs are not available new, I=E2=80=99ll have to find used hubs.<=
/div>
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