Subject: Re: [Mgs] armstrong front shock

From: Michael MacLean via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 21:08:56 +0000 (UTC)

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 Well except for the downward spring pressure on the lower A-Arm that is co=
nnected to the kingpin at the bottom.=C2=A0 The shock arms are connected to=
 the top of the kingpin.=C2=A0 I hope you know where I am going here.=C2=A0=
 You need a workshop manual to safely take the front suspension apart to re=
move the shock.=C2=A0 Be warned, when you take the suspension apart you may=
 find there will be more than you bargained for to put it back together whe=
n you find other bits worn or broken.=C2=A0 Just my 2 cents.Mike MacLean69 =
MGB GT60 Bugeye Sprite56 Austin Healey BN2 LeMans

    On Saturday, April 4, 2020, 10:14:26 AM PDT, dave via Mgs <[email-masked]=
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I am cleaning up this chassis (59), and I=E2=80=99d like to unbolt the arms=
trong shock from the chassis so I can clean up and paint the chassis.=C2=A0=
 Its ok and works fine, and I really don=E2=80=99t want to pull the whole t=
hing off.

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Can I just pull off the bolts and work around it?=C2=A0 Any cautions?=20

 =C2=A0

Thanks!
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Well except for the downward=
 spring pressure on the lower A-Arm that is connected to the kingpin at the=
 bottom.&nbsp; The shock arms are connected to the top of the kingpin.&nbsp=
; I hope you know where I am going here.&nbsp; You need a workshop manual t=
o safely take the front suspension apart to remove the shock.&nbsp; Be warn=
ed, when you take the suspension apart you may find there will be more than=
 you bargained for to put it back together when you find other bits worn or=
 broken.&nbsp; Just my 2 cents.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
>Mike MacLean</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">69 MGB GT</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">60 Bugeye Sprite</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
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                    On Saturday, April 4, 2020, 10:14:26 AM PDT, dave via M=
gs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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9130319MsoNormal">I am cleaning up this chassis (59), and I=E2=80=99d like =
to unbolt the armstrong shock from the chassis so I can clean up and paint =
the chassis.&nbsp; Its ok and works fine, and I really don=E2=80=99t want t=
o pull the whole thing off.</p><p class=3D"yiv7689130319MsoNormal"> &nbsp;<=
/p><p class=3D"yiv7689130319MsoNormal">Can I just pull off the bolts and wo=
rk around it?&nbsp; Any cautions? </p><p class=3D"yiv7689130319MsoNormal"> =
&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv7689130319MsoNormal">Thanks!</p></div></div></div>=
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Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 18:18:16 -0400

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Unless you are careful, very careful, it is a great way to lose some =
teeth.

> On Apr 4, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Well except for the downward spring pressure on the lower A-Arm that =
is connected to the kingpin at the bottom.  The shock arms are connected =
to the top of the kingpin.  I hope you know where I am going here.  You =
need a workshop manual to safely take the front suspension apart to =
remove the shock.  Be warned, when you take the suspension apart you may =
find there will be more than you bargained for to put it back together =
when you find other bits worn or broken.  Just my 2 cents.
> Mike MacLean
> 69 MGB GT
> 60 Bugeye Sprite
> 56 Austin Healey BN2 LeMans
>=20
> On Saturday, April 4, 2020, 10:14:26 AM PDT, dave via Mgs =
>=20
>=20
> I am cleaning up this chassis (59), and I=E2=80=99d like to unbolt the =
armstrong shock from the chassis so I can clean up and paint the =
chassis.  Its ok and works fine, and I really don=E2=80=99t want to pull =
the whole thing off.
>=20
> =20
> Can I just pull off the bolts and work around it?  Any cautions?=20
>=20
> =20
> Thanks!
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class=3D"">Unless you are careful, very careful, it is a great way to =
lose some teeth.<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Apr 4, 2020, at 5:08 PM, =
Michael MacLean via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
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&quot;times new roman&quot;, &quot;new york&quot;, times, serif; =
font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">Well except for the downward spring =
pressure on the lower A-Arm that is connected to the kingpin at the =
bottom.&nbsp; The shock arms are connected to the top of the =
kingpin.&nbsp; I hope you know where I am going here.&nbsp; You need a =
workshop manual to safely take the front suspension apart to remove the =
shock.&nbsp; Be warned, when you take the suspension apart you may find =
there will be more than you bargained for to put it back together when =
you find other bits worn or broken.&nbsp; Just my 2 cents.</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">Mike MacLean</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">69 MGB GT</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">60 Bugeye Sprite</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">56 Austin Healey BN2 =
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><div class=3D""><br =
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am cleaning up this chassis (59), and I=E2=80=99d like to unbolt the =
armstrong shock from the chassis so I can clean up and paint the =
chassis.&nbsp; Its ok and works fine, and I really don=E2=80=99t want to =
pull the whole thing off.</p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"yiv7689130319MsoNormal">Can I just pull off the bolts and work =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br=
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From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 10:02:44 +0100 3EqhWrAxukvwEaWwHboy2Ddq3/OtToQOu5d0pxbxoOiS2xGdW1Tw6a+V/ez43h+QbfCNfvSzyJ8OYQ==

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I like that, you might need more than one to prop the bottom of the =
king-pin up though :o)

It's really not that difficult, the manual covers it in two sentences.  =
To remove just the damper jack under the spring-pan until the damper =
arms come off the rebound rubber, then remove the upper link and unbolt =
the damper.  It also says to support the axle assembly to avoid =
straining the brake hose but that should be obvious anyway. =20

If going any further than that i.e. removing the spring then you have to =
support the car safely on axle stands, so you can jack the spring pan =
down after removing the upper (or lower) link to remove all the tension =
from the spring.  That needs the engine and gearbox to be in the car of =
course to provide enough weight to compress the spring.  Without that =
some other means of compressing the spring will be needed. =20

On springs with the shorter free height it may be possible to get away =
without compressing the spring as with the wheels hanging down they are =
nearly fully expanded anyway, and removing the bump and rebound rubber =
bracket will give you a bit more movement.  But you need to have =
released the tension some other way in the past to know that is =
possible, certainly don't go unbolting things just to see.

PaulH.

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  You need a workshop manual to safely take the front suspension apart =
to remove the shock.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I like that, you might need more than one to prop =
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of the king-pin up though :o)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It's really not that difficult, the manual covers it =
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sentences.&nbsp; To remove just the damper&nbsp;jack under the =
spring-pan until=20
the damper arms come off the rebound rubber, then remove the =
upper&nbsp;link and=20
unbolt the damper.&nbsp; It also says to support the axle assembly to =
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straining the brake hose but that should be obvious anyway.&nbsp; =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If going any further than that i.e. removing the =
spring then=20
you have to support the car safely on axle stands, so you can jack the =
spring=20
pan down after removing the upper (or lower) link to remove all the =
tension from=20
the spring.&nbsp; </FONT><FONT size=3D2>That needs the engine and =
gearbox to be in=20
the car of course to provide enough weight to compress the spring.&nbsp; =
Without=20
that some other means of compressing the spring will be needed.&nbsp;=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>On springs with the shorter free height it&nbsp;may=20
be&nbsp;possible to get away without compressing the spring as with the =
wheels=20
hanging down they are nearly fully expanded anyway, and removing the =
bump and=20
rebound rubber bracket will give you a bit more movement.&nbsp; =
But&nbsp;you=20
need to have released the tension some other way in the past to know =
that is=20
possible, certainly don't go unbolting things just to see.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PaulH.</FONT></DIV>
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