Subject: [Mgs] Seat Fittings.

From: Michael MacLean via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 21:49:03 +0000 (UTC)

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I am finally addressing the driver's seat in my "new to me" MGB GT.=C2=A0 W=
hen I sit in the driver's seat the cushion bottoms out so that I am being j=
abbed on both sides by the tubular frame.=C2=A0 Not conducive to long dista=
nce driving.=C2=A0 The foam in the seat must be original as it has turned b=
rown in exposed areas and is way too soft.=C2=A0 Where I am confused is the=
 seats have cross webbing to support the foam cushion.=C2=A0 According to t=
he catalogs, webbing started in use in 1970 on.=C2=A0 My GT is a 1969 model=
 which should be a rubber diaphragm instead of webbing.=C2=A0 Knowing what =
I know about the assembly line for MGs and other Brit cars, it is totally p=
ossible some 69s got out with the newer seats.=C2=A0 More likely the seats =
were swapped sometime during the 51 years since it came off the assembly li=
ne.=C2=A0 The webbing is installed with aluminum flat bars screwed to the t=
ubular frame.=C2=A0 The webbing is sewn around the aluminum bars.=C2=A0 I d=
on't know if this is a retrofit or original.=C2=A0 I already ordered anothe=
r foam cushion to replace this old one.=C2=A0 Just wondering if the new foa=
m will be enough to solve the bottoming out problem, or should I have repla=
ced the webbing or even gone back to a rubber diaphragm?=C2=A0 Like to hear=
 from you guys that rebuilt your seats on your own.Mike MacLean69 MGB GT56 =
Austin Healey BN260 Bugeye

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I am finally addressing the driver's seat in my "new to me" MGB GT.&nbsp; W=
hen I sit in the driver's seat the cushion bottoms out so that I am being j=
abbed on both sides by the tubular frame.&nbsp; Not conducive to long dista=
nce driving.&nbsp; The foam in the seat must be original as it has turned b=
rown in exposed areas and is way too soft.&nbsp; Where I am confused is the=
 seats have cross webbing to support the foam cushion.&nbsp; According to t=
he catalogs, webbing started in use in 1970 on.&nbsp; My GT is a 1969 model=
 which should be a rubber diaphragm instead of webbing.&nbsp; Knowing what =
I know about the assembly line for MGs and other Brit cars, it is totally p=
ossible some 69s got out with the newer seats.&nbsp; More likely the seats =
were swapped sometime during the 51 years since it came off the assembly li=
ne.&nbsp; The webbing is installed with aluminum flat bars screwed to the t=
ubular frame.&nbsp; The webbing is sewn around the aluminum bars.&nbsp; I d=
on't know if this is a retrofit or original.&nbsp; I already ordered anothe=
r foam cushion to replace this old one.&nbsp; Just wondering if the new foa=
m will be enough to solve the bottoming out problem, or should I have repla=
ced the webbing or even gone back to a rubber diaphragm?&nbsp; Like to hear=
 from you guys that rebuilt your seats on your own.<div id=3D"yMail_cursorE=
lementTracker_1583271943323">Mike MacLean</div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorEleme=
ntTracker_1583271953401">69 MGB GT</div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTrack=
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From: Max Heim via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 14:01:25 -0800

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In my case, a new rubber diaphragm with the old seat foam worked OK. =
Then new seat foam made it more supportive. I think you will want both.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Mar 3, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I am finally addressing the driver's seat in my "new to me" MGB GT.  =
When I sit in the driver's seat the cushion bottoms out so that I am =
being jabbed on both sides by the tubular frame.  Not conducive to long =
distance driving.  The foam in the seat must be original as it has =
turned brown in exposed areas and is way too soft.  Where I am confused =
is the seats have cross webbing to support the foam cushion.  According =
to the catalogs, webbing started in use in 1970 on.  My GT is a 1969 =
model which should be a rubber diaphragm instead of webbing.  Knowing =
what I know about the assembly line for MGs and other Brit cars, it is =
totally possible some 69s got out with the newer seats.  More likely the =
seats were swapped sometime during the 51 years since it came off the =
assembly line.  The webbing is installed with aluminum flat bars screwed =
to the tubular frame.  The webbing is sewn around the aluminum bars.  I =
don't know if this is a retrofit or original.  I already ordered another =
foam cushion to replace this old one.  Just wondering if the new foam =
will be enough to solve the bottoming out problem, or should I have =
replaced the webbing or even gone back to a rubber diaphragm?  Like to =
hear from you guys that rebuilt your seats on your own.
> Mike MacLean
> 69 MGB GT
> 56 Austin Healey BN2
> 60 Bugeye
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class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">In my case, a new rubber =
diaphragm with the old seat foam worked OK. Then new seat foam made it =
more supportive. I think you will want both.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Mar 3, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">I am =
finally addressing the driver's seat in my "new to me" MGB GT.&nbsp; =
When I sit in the driver's seat the cushion bottoms out so that I am =
being jabbed on both sides by the tubular frame.&nbsp; Not conducive to =
long distance driving.&nbsp; The foam in the seat must be original as it =
has turned brown in exposed areas and is way too soft.&nbsp; Where I am =
confused is the seats have cross webbing to support the foam =
cushion.&nbsp; According to the catalogs, webbing started in use in 1970 =
on.&nbsp; My GT is a 1969 model which should be a rubber diaphragm =
instead of webbing.&nbsp; Knowing what I know about the assembly line =
for MGs and other Brit cars, it is totally possible some 69s got out =
with the newer seats.&nbsp; More likely the seats were swapped sometime =
during the 51 years since it came off the assembly line.&nbsp; The =
webbing is installed with aluminum flat bars screwed to the tubular =
frame.&nbsp; The webbing is sewn around the aluminum bars.&nbsp; I don't =
know if this is a retrofit or original.&nbsp; I already ordered another =
foam cushion to replace this old one.&nbsp; Just wondering if the new =
foam will be enough to solve the bottoming out problem, or should I have =
replaced the webbing or even gone back to a rubber diaphragm?&nbsp; Like =
to hear from you guys that rebuilt your seats on your own.<div =
id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1583271943323" class=3D"">Mike =
MacLean</div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1583271953401" =
class=3D"">69 MGB GT</div><div =
id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1583271964995" class=3D"">56 Austin =
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From: Michael MacLean via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 22:12:29 +0000 (UTC)

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I just ordered both.Mike M

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  On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:01 PM, Max Heim<[email-masked]> wrote:   In my=
 case, a new rubber diaphragm with the old seat foam worked OK. Then new se=
at foam made it more supportive. I think you will want both.
--Max Heim'66 MGB

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I just ordered both.<div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1583273538024">Mi=
ke M<br><br><div id=3D"ymail_android_signature"><a id=3D"ymail_android_sign=
ature_link" href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&amp;c=
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le=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;"> <div style=3D"font-family:Roboto, sans-serif; c=
olor:#6D00F6;"> <div>On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:01 PM, Max Heim</div><div>&lt=
;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div> </div> <div style=3D"padding: 10px 0 0 2=
0px; margin: 10px 0 0 0; border-left: 1px solid #6D00F6;"> <div id=3D"yiv49=
63544312"><div><div class=3D"yiv4963544312"><div class=3D"yiv4963544312">In=
 my case, a new rubber diaphragm with the old seat foam worked OK. Then new=
 seat foam made it more supportive. I think you will want both.</div><div c=
lass=3D"yiv4963544312"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv4963544312"><div clas=
s=3D"yiv4963544312">
<div class=3D"yiv4963544312" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);letter-spacing:nor=
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" style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;">--</div><div class=3D"yiv4963544312"=
 style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;min-height:16px;">Max Heim</div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv4963544312" style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:13px;">'66 MGB</div></d=
iv></div>
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<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv4963544312"><div><blockquote class=3D"yiv496=
3544312" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"yiv4963544312yqt6389847299 yQTDBase" i=
d=3D"yiv4963544312yqtfd08985"><div class=3D"yiv4963544312">On Mar 3, 2020, =
at 1:49 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
class=3D"yiv4963544312" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</=
div><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv4963544312Apple-interchange-newline"></d=
iv><div class=3D"yiv4963544312"><div class=3D"yiv4963544312yqt6389847299 yQ=
TDBase" id=3D"yiv4963544312yqtfd53889">I am finally addressing the driver's=
 seat in my "new to me" MGB GT.&nbsp; When I sit in the driver's seat the c=
ushion bottoms out so that I am being jabbed on both sides by the tubular f=
rame.&nbsp; Not conducive to long distance driving.&nbsp; The foam in the s=
eat must be original as it has turned brown in exposed areas and is way too=
 soft.&nbsp; Where I am confused is the seats have cross webbing to support=
 the foam cushion.&nbsp; According to the catalogs, webbing started in use =
in 1970 on.&nbsp; My GT is a 1969 model which should be a rubber diaphragm =
instead of webbing.&nbsp; Knowing what I know about the assembly line for M=
Gs and other Brit cars, it is totally possible some 69s got out with the ne=
wer seats.&nbsp; More likely the seats were swapped sometime during the 51 =
years since it came off the assembly line.&nbsp; The webbing is installed w=
ith aluminum flat bars screwed to the tubular frame.&nbsp; The webbing is s=
ewn around the aluminum bars.&nbsp; I don't know if this is a retrofit or o=
riginal.&nbsp; I already ordered another foam cushion to replace this old o=
ne.&nbsp; Just wondering if the new foam will be enough to solve the bottom=
ing out problem, or should I have replaced the webbing or even gone back to=
 a rubber diaphragm?&nbsp; Like to hear from you guys that rebuilt your sea=
ts on your own.<div class=3D"yiv4963544312" id=3D"yiv4963544312yMail_cursor=
ElementTracker_1583271943323">Mike MacLean</div><div class=3D"yiv4963544312=
" id=3D"yiv4963544312yMail_cursorElementTracker_1583271953401">69 MGB GT</d=
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From: Michael MacLean via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 03:04:18 +0000 (UTC)

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 Thanks Paul.=C2=A0 Now to find luan plywood.Mike

    On Tuesday, March 3, 2020, 4:46:00 PM PST, Osborne, Paul <[email-masked]=
ester.edu> wrote: =20
=20
 As an upholster, =C2=A0I find the foam to be great but the new diaphragm n=
ot to be of good quality. They dry out and crack rather quickly, and your r=
ight back to sitting on the floor. I place a piece 1/8 =E2=80=9C luan plywo=
od the size of the rubber =C2=A0diaphragm between it and the foam. gives gr=
eat support and lasts. Have had mine in my GT for 7 yrs. =C2=A0
paul

On Mar 3, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
I just ordered both.Mike M

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:01 PM, Max Heim<[email-masked]> wrote:In my case=
, a new rubber diaphragm with the old seat foam worked OK. Then new seat fo=
am made it more supportive. I think you will want both.

Paul OsbornePaul's Canvas7379 E Main St=C2=A0Lima NY 14485585-255-0531

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nd luan plywood.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mike<br></div>=
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As an upholster, &nbsp;I find the foam to be great but the new diaphragm no=
t to be of good quality. They dry out and crack rather quickly, and your ri=
ght back to sitting on the floor. I place a piece 1/8 =E2=80=9C luan plywoo=
d the size of the rubber &nbsp;diaphragm between it
 and the foam. gives great support and lasts. Have had mine in my GT for 7 =
yrs. &nbsp;
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</div>
<div class=3D"yiv2767567069">paul<br class=3D"yiv2767567069" clear=3D"none"=
<div>
<blockquote class=3D"yiv2767567069" type=3D"cite">
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After all this time the webbing is unlikely to be original, even though =
you might be sitting on the floor.  I've replaced that in my 73 roadster =
twice in 30 years, and the 75 V8 once in 25, even though I've done more =
miles in the V8.  Avoid the diaphragms, the embedded wires that hook to =
the frame pull out all to easily according to several accounts.

I've recovered the roadster seats twice (the first seat were poor =
quality) and the V8 once, and kept the foams which are original to the =
cars, and have all been in good nick.  Replacement foams are far too =
dense - tops of thighs pressed up against the steering wheel and head =
tilted to one side in a GT.  A number of people say they've had to cut a =
slice off the bottom, or drill a series of holes through.

Of course, how much 'sag' you get depends on how much you weigh.  The =
factory only allowed for 150lb per person ...

PaulH.
  ----- Original Message -----=20

  I am finally addressing the driver's seat in my "new to me" MGB GT.  =
When I sit in the driver's seat the cushion bottoms out so that I am =
being jabbed on both sides by the tubular frame.  Not conducive to long =
distance driving.  The foam in the seat must be original as it has =
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    New foams can make a difference far greater than anticipated, not just i=
n comfort but that the seat is not squirming around underneath you.=20
    Another approach to replacing webbing or diaphragm is to have a tent/can=
vas/sailmaker sew a director=E2=80=99s chair sort of canvas across the frame=
.=20
    If new foams lift so hight that your head bumps the top, trimming the fo=
am will help a bit.  If new height puts you above the aiming of the mirror, t=
ry a mirror & its stem from an MGB open car. You can gain a bit of improveme=
nt to the angle of rear vision.
Bob

> On Mar 3, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:01 PM, Max Heim
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
> In my case, a new rubber diaphragm with the old seat foam worked OK. Then n=
ew seat foam made it more supportive. I think you will want both.
>=20
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
>=20
>> On Mar 3, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Michael MacLean via Mgs <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>>=20
>> I am finally addressing the driver's seat in my "new to me" MGB GT.  When=
 I sit in the driver's seat the cushion bottoms out so that I am being jabbe=
d on both sides by the tubular frame.  Not conducive to long distance drivin=
g.  The foam in the seat must be original as it has turned brown in exposed a=
reas and is way too soft.  Where I am confused is the seats have cross webbi=
ng to support the foam cushion.  According to the catalogs, webbing started i=
n use in 1970 on.  My GT is a 1969 model which should be a rubber diaphragm i=
nstead of webbing.  Knowing what I know about the assembly line for MGs and o=
ther Brit cars, it is totally possible some 69s got out with the newer seats=
.  More likely the seats were swapped sometime during the 51 years since it c=
ame off the assembly line.  The webbing is installed with aluminum flat bars=
 screwed to the tubular frame.  The webbing is sewn around the aluminum bars=
.  I don't know if this is a retrofit or original.  I already ordered anothe=
r foam cushion to replace this old one.  Just wondering if the new foam will=
 be enough to solve the bottoming out problem, or should I have replaced the=
 webbing or even gone back to a rubber diaphragm?  Like to hear from you guy=
s that rebuilt your seats on your own.
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nb=
sp; &nbsp; New foams can make a difference far greater than anticipated, not=
 just in comfort but that the seat is not squirming around underneath you.&n=
bsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; Another approach to replacing webbi=
ng or diaphragm is to have a tent/canvas/sailmaker sew a director=E2=80=99s c=
hair sort of canvas across the frame.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nb=
sp; If new foams lift so hight that your head bumps the top, trimming the fo=
am will help a bit. &nbsp;If new height puts you above the aiming of the mir=
ror, try a mirror &amp; its stem from an MGB open car. You can gain a bit of=
 improvement to the angle of rear vision.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob</div><di=
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lass=3D"yiv4963544312">In my case, a new rubber diaphragm with the old seat f=
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"yiv4963544312yqtfd53889">I am finally addressing the driver's seat in my "n=
ew to me" MGB GT.&nbsp; When I sit in the driver's seat the cushion bottoms o=
ut so that I am being jabbed on both sides by the tubular frame.&nbsp; Not c=
onducive to long distance driving.&nbsp; The foam in the seat must be origin=
al as it has turned brown in exposed areas and is way too soft.&nbsp; Where I=
 am confused is the seats have cross webbing to support the foam cushion.&nb=
sp; According to the catalogs, webbing started in use in 1970 on.&nbsp; My G=
T is a 1969 model which should be a rubber diaphragm instead of webbing.&nbs=
p; Knowing what I know about the assembly line for MGs and other Brit cars, i=
t is totally possible some 69s got out with the newer seats.&nbsp; More like=
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&nbsp; I don't know if this is a retrofit or original.&nbsp; I already order=
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 new foam will be enough to solve the bottoming out problem, or should I hav=
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