Subject: Re: [Mgs] Silly error. P.S.

From: Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:21:43 +0200

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Talking about a TF:

I was offered a nice looking TF yesterday, but it=E2=80=99s in Beverly Hill=
s, which is quite far from The Netherlands=E2=80=A6

https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1955-mg-tf-right-hand-drive-c-9316.htm =

Cheers,

Hans

71 BGT NRG

Van: Robert's New iPad [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Verzonden: vrijdag 14 juni 2019 0:21
Aan: Richard Lindsay
CC: Hans Duinhoven; [email-masked] List
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Silly error.

   Sunday afternoon is our project day. I want to remove the tops of float =
chambers again, the covers and pistons, and to try a bit of compressed air =
on the jet to see if that will dislodge anything in the passage.  If not, w=
e can drop the jets out, but that is awkward on a TF, with its side panels =
diabolically placed to make any carb work difficult.

   It was this same friend who talked me into a Pertronix for my MGB, after=
 he had installed them in this TF and his MGA.   I did, and it improved the=
 inaccurate timing quite a bit. A couple of years later, I sent the distrib=
utor to Advanced Distributors. Jeff wanted to know about the engine, its co=
mpression, camshaft, porting, polishing, etc, then curved the distributor t=
o fit.  This engine runs very well now. Though he is not 100% sold on the P=
ertronix, I keep it because setting dwell of the MGB is not as easy as in T=
D.  

  Fuel, air, spark=E2=80=94we are working to get them all in proper proport=
ion.

Bob

On Jun 13, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Richard Lindsay <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:

Keep cleaning Bob. :-)

My TD and TR3b both had idle instability problems AND the higher speed issu=
es. I ended up putting Pertronix distributors in both cars and they ran fan=
tastic! The slow idle was perfect. 

So check the timing with a timing light to see if it is stable. 

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 1:51 PM Robert's New iPad <[email-masked]> wrote:

  Good on both of you.

  Yesterday was an interesting day for me. Went out as passenger with a fri=
end in his TF, stored a year or so.  It ran out of go at 2500 rpm, sputteri=
ng, bucking, etc, but would smooth out at 2000.  

  Back at the garage, found the strangest stuff in the float chambers. One =
had a teaspoon of large chunks of solid material. The other had some of tha=
t, plus a goo that looked like frog-egg liquid.  

  The goo was easy enough to figure out, but as the chunks are far larger t=
han would pass through the SU carb banjo filters, the SU pump filter, the a=
dditional filter he has in line, and the original screen filter in the tank=
, it was a puzzle.  We could check banjo, pump and additional filter-none h=
ad any grit or sediment. 

  Pump delivers the pint/minute quantity that workshop manual says.

  Engine runs better, but not much. I suspect that some of the sediment is =
in the passage from float chamber to the jet, but we ran out of day yesterd=
ay.

Bob

On Jun 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

   Good work Hans! I too had a successful day at the shop. I replaced in tw=
o bolts in the waterpump housing and the leak is gone! We brought the engin=
e up to temperature with (up to) 13# coolant pressure, and no leaks.

   I also found a small fuel leak at the intake of the fuel pump. A couple =
of spannet twists put that right and dry. With that, we made a few laps aro=
und the shop and all was still well.

Rick

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 AM Hans Duinhoven <[email-masked]> wrote:=

Funny =E2=80=93 I solved coolant issues earlier and yesterday.

Had to replace the thermostat housing gasket and yesterday I had to replace=
 the hose connecting the bottom radiator pipe to the waterpump.

A horrible job to do, as there is almost no space to work at the bottom of =
the radiator pipe.

Nut with a dry result!

Fully cleaned a clogged charcoal filter and renewed the charcoal particles.=

Replaced the oil filler cap and will renew the brake fluid tomorrow.

Then the GT should be roadworthy again.

Cheers,

Hans

71 BGT NRG - 

Van: Mgs [mailto:[email-masked]] Namens Richard Lindsay via Mgs=

Verzonden: woensdag 12 juni 2019 18:51
Aan: [email-masked] List
Onderwerp: [Mgs] Silly error.

Hi Friends,

   My TR6 rebuilt engine leaks coolant. Okay, its not an MG but the issue i=
s universal. Here's the short story.

   When reassembling the waterpump I made a newbie error. I got in a hurry =
and left out two bolts, some of the bolts that hold the pump body to the he=
ad. The coolant leak is through one of those bolt holes. The threaded hole =
drilling entered the head's water jacket and of course, leaks.

   I now have new bolts and I will apply sealant to the threads and place f=
iber sealing washers under the bolt heads. Doing so hopefully completes the=
 engine rebuild. I can then get back to replacing the top on my MG TD.

Rick

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Talking about a TF:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I was offered a nice looking TF yesterday, but it=E2=80=99s in =
Beverly Hills, which is quite far from The =
Netherlands=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><a =
href=3D"https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1955-mg-tf-right-hand-drive-c=
-9316.htm">https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1955-mg-tf-right-hand-driv=
e-c-9316.htm</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hans<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>71 BGT NRG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Robert's New iPad [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Verzonden:</b> =
vrijdag 14 juni 2019 0:21<br><b>Aan:</b> Richard Lindsay<br><b>CC:</b> =
Hans Duinhoven; [email-masked] List<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] =
Silly error.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;Sunday afternoon is our project day. I want to remove the tops of =
float chambers again, the covers and pistons, and to try a bit of =
compressed air on the jet to see if that will dislodge anything in the =
passage. &nbsp;If not, we can drop the jets out, but that is awkward on =
a TF, with its side panels diabolically placed to make any carb work =
difficult.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp;It =
was this same friend who talked me into a Pertronix for my MGB, after he =
had installed them in this TF and his MGA. &nbsp; I did, and it improved =
the inaccurate timing quite a bit. A couple of years later, I sent the =
distributor to Advanced Distributors. Jeff wanted to know about the =
engine, its compression, camshaft, porting, polishing, etc, then curved =
the distributor to fit. &nbsp;This engine runs very well now. Though he =
is not 100% sold on the Pertronix, I keep it because setting dwell of =
the MGB is not as easy as in TD. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; Fuel, air, spark=E2=80=94we are working to get =
them all in proper proportion.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jun 13, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Richard =
Lindsay &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Keep cleaning Bob. :-)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My TD and TR3b both had idle instability problems AND =
the higher speed issues. I ended up putting Pertronix distributors in =
both cars and they ran fantastic! The slow idle was =
perfect.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So check the timing with a timing light to see if it =
is stable.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 1:51 PM Robert's New iPad &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; Good on both of =
you.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; Yesterday was =
an interesting day for me. Went out as passenger with a friend in his =
TF, stored a year or so.&nbsp; It ran out of go at 2500 rpm, sputtering, =
bucking, etc, but would smooth out at 2000. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; Back at the =
garage, found the strangest stuff in the float chambers. One had a =
teaspoon of large chunks of solid material. The other had some of that, =
plus a goo that looked like frog-egg liquid. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; The goo was =
easy enough to figure out, but as the chunks are far larger than would =
pass through the SU carb banjo filters, the SU pump filter, the =
additional filter he has in line, and the original screen filter in the =
tank, it was a puzzle.&nbsp; We could check banjo, pump and additional =
filter-none had any grit or sediment.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; Pump delivers the pint/minute quantity that =
workshop manual says.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; Engine runs better, but not much. I suspect =
that some of the sediment is in the passage from float chamber to the =
jet, but we ran out of day yesterday.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jun 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Richard =
Lindsay via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp;Good work Hans! I too had a successful =
day at the shop. I replaced in two bolts in the waterpump housing and =
the leak is gone! We brought the engine up to temperature with (up to) =
13# coolant pressure, and no leaks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp;I also found a small fuel leak at the =
intake of the fuel pump. A couple of spannet twists put that right and =
dry. With that, we made a few laps around the shop and all was still =
well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rick<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 AM Hans Duinhoven &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Funny =E2=80=93 I solved coolant issues earlier and =
yesterday.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Had to replace the thermostat housing gasket and yesterday I had to =
replace the hose connecting the bottom radiator pipe to the =
waterpump.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>A horrible job to do, as there is almost no space to work at the =
bottom of the radiator pipe.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Nut with a dry result!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Fully cleaned a clogged charcoal filter and renewed the charcoal =
particles.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Replaced the oil filler cap and will renew the brake fluid =
tomorrow.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Then the GT should be roadworthy again.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hans</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>71 BGT NRG - </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Mgs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>Namens </b>Richard =
Lindsay via Mgs<br><b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 12 juni 2019 =
18:51<br><b>Aan:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> List<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> [Mgs] =
Silly error.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi =
Friends,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;My TR6 rebuilt engine leaks coolant. Okay, its not an MG but the =
issue is universal. Here's the short story.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;When reassembling the waterpump I made a newbie error. I got in a =
hurry and left out two bolts, some of the bolts that hold the pump body =
to the head. The coolant leak is through one of those bolt holes. The =
threaded hole drilling entered the head's water jacket and of course, =
leaks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;I now have new bolts and I will apply sealant to the threads and =
place fiber sealing washers under the bolt heads. Doing so hopefully =
completes the engine rebuild. I can then get back to replacing the top =
on my MG TD.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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From: i erbs via Mgs <[email-masked]>
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not necessarily in BH. He is a re seller and car scan be from all over the
place. I would be careful buying from these guys without having someone
inspect the car first
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes

1967 MGB  

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:21 AM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <[email-masked]=
wrote:

> Talking about a TF:
>
> I was offered a nice looking TF yesterday, but it=E2=80=99s in Beverly Hi=
lls,
> which is quite far from The Netherlands=E2=80=A6
>
> https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1955-mg-tf-right-hand-drive-c-9316.ht=
m
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
> 71 BGT NRG
>
>
>
> *Van:* Robert's New iPad [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 14 juni 2019 0:21
> *Aan:* Richard Lindsay
> *CC:* Hans Duinhoven; [email-masked] List
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Silly error.
>
>
>
>    Sunday afternoon is our project day. I want to remove the tops of floa=
t
> chambers again, the covers and pistons, and to try a bit of compressed ai=
r
> on the jet to see if that will dislodge anything in the passage.  If not,
> we can drop the jets out, but that is awkward on a TF, with its side pane=
ls
>    It was this same friend who talked me into a Pertronix for my MGB,
> after he had installed them in this TF and his MGA.   I did, and it
> improved the inaccurate timing quite a bit. A couple of years later, I se=
nt
> the distributor to Advanced Distributors. Jeff wanted to know about the
> engine, its compression, camshaft, porting, polishing, etc, then curved t=
he
> distributor to fit.  This engine runs very well now. Though he is not 100=
%
> sold on the Pertronix, I keep it because setting dwell of the MGB is not =
as
> easy as in TD.
>
>   Fuel, air, spark=E2=80=94we are working to get them all in proper propo=
rtion.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Richard Lindsay <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> Keep cleaning Bob. :-)
>
>
>
> My TD and TR3b both had idle instability problems AND the higher speed
> issues. I ended up putting Pertronix distributors in both cars and they r=
an
> fantastic! The slow idle was perfect.
>
>
>
>   Yesterday was an interesting day for me. Went out as passenger with a
> friend in his TF, stored a year or so.  It ran out of go at 2500 rpm,
> sputtering, bucking, etc, but would smooth out at 2000.
>
>   Back at the garage, found the strangest stuff in the float chambers. On=
e
> had a teaspoon of large chunks of solid material. The other had some of
> that, plus a goo that looked like frog-egg liquid.
>
>   The goo was easy enough to figure out, but as the chunks are far larger
> than would pass through the SU carb banjo filters, the SU pump filter, th=
e
> additional filter he has in line, and the original screen filter in the
> tank, it was a puzzle.  We could check banjo, pump and additional
> filter-none had any grit or sediment.
>
>   Engine runs better, but not much. I suspect that some of the sediment i=
s
> in the passage from float chamber to the jet, but we ran out of day
> yesterday.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>    Good work Hans! I too had a successful day at the shop. I replaced in
> two bolts in the waterpump housing and the leak is gone! We brought the
> engine up to temperature with (up to) 13# coolant pressure, and no leaks.
>
>    I also found a small fuel leak at the intake of the fuel pump. A coupl=
e
> of spannet twists put that right and dry. With that, we made a few laps
> around the shop and all was still well.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 AM Hans Duinhoven <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> Had to replace the thermostat housing gasket and yesterday I had to
> replace the hose connecting the bottom radiator pipe to the waterpump.
>
> A horrible job to do, as there is almost no space to work at the bottom o=
f
> the radiator pipe.
>
> Nut with a dry result!
>
>
>
> Fully cleaned a clogged charcoal filter and renewed the charcoal particle=
s.
> *Van:* Mgs [mailto:[email-masked]] *Namens *Richard Lindsay
> via Mgs
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 12 juni 2019 18:51
> *Aan:* [email-masked] List
> *Onderwerp:* [Mgs] Silly error.
>
>
>
> Hi Friends,
>
>    My TR6 rebuilt engine leaks coolant. Okay, its not an MG but the issue
> is universal. Here's the short story.
>
>    When reassembling the waterpump I made a newbie error. I got in a hurr=
y
> and left out two bolts, some of the bolts that hold the pump body to the
> head. The coolant leak is through one of those bolt holes. The threaded
> hole drilling entered the head's water jacket and of course, leaks.
>
>    I now have new bolts and I will apply sealant to the threads and place
> fiber sealing washers under the bolt heads. Doing so hopefully completes
> the engine rebuild. I can then get back to replacing the top on my MG TD.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">not necessarily in BH. He is a re seller and car scan be f=
rom all over the place. I would be careful buying from these guys without h=
aving someone inspect the car first<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times =
New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New R=
oman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif=
">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=
=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______=
___________________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT=
7 engine and disk brakes</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>1967 MGB =
=C2=A0<img src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emb=
lem.jpg" alt=3D"MG"></div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,5=
1,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:14px">A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario A=
ndretti</span><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspel=
led words</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:21 AM Ha=
ns Duinhoven via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex"><div lang=3D"NL"><div class=3D"gmail-m_4470621023755993352WordSection=
1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri=
,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Talking about a TF:<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I was offered a nice looki=
ng TF yesterday, but it=E2=80=99s in Beverly Hills, which is quite far from=
 The Netherlands=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;c=
olor:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href=3D"https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1955-mg=
-tf-right-hand-drive-c-9316.htm" target=3D"_blank">https://www.beverlyhills=
carclub.com/1955-mg-tf-right-hand-drive-c-9316.htm</a> <u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;=
font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Cheers,<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11=
pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hans<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11=
pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">71 BGT NRG<u></u><u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,=
sans-serif">Van:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma=
,sans-serif"> Robert&#39;s New iPad [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <br><b>Verzonden:</b> vrijdag =
14 juni 2019 0:21<br><b>Aan:</b> Richard Lindsay<br><b>CC:</b> Hans Duinhov=
en; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked].=
net</a> List<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] Silly error.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0Sunday afternoon is our project day. I want =
to remove the tops of float chambers again, the covers and pistons, and to =
try a bit of compressed air on the jet to see if that will dislodge anythin=
g in the passage.=C2=A0 If not, we can drop the jets out, but that is awkwa=
rd on a TF, with its side panels diabolically placed to make any carb work =
difficult.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
It was this same friend who talked me into a Pertronix for my MGB, after he=
 had installed them in this TF and his MGA. =C2=A0 I did, and it improved t=
he inaccurate timing quite a bit. A couple of years later, I sent the distr=
ibutor to Advanced Distributors. Jeff wanted to know about the engine, its =
compression, camshaft, porting, polishing, etc, then curved the distributor=
 to fit.=C2=A0 This engine runs very well now. Though he is not 100% sold o=
n the Pertronix, I keep it because setting dwell of the MGB is not as easy =
as in TD. =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =
Fuel, air, spark=E2=80=94we are working to get them all in proper proportio=
n.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob<u></u><u></u></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><br>On Jun 1=
3, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Richard Lindsay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:richardolindsay@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u=
><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Keep cleaning Bob. :-)<u></u><u></u></p><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">My TD and TR3b both had idle instability problems AND the higher spe=
ed issues. I ended up putting Pertronix distributors in both cars and they =
ran fantastic! The slow idle was perfect.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">So check the timing with a timing light to see if it is stable.=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 1:51 PM Robert&=
#39;s New iPad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mg=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"b=
order-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"=
><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 Good on both of you.<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 Yesterday was an interesting d=
ay for me. Went out as passenger with a friend in his TF, stored a year or =
so.=C2=A0 It ran out of go at 2500 rpm, sputtering, bucking, etc, but would=
 smooth out at 2000. =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">=C2=A0 Back at the garage, found the strangest stuff in the float chamb=
ers. One had a teaspoon of large chunks of solid material. The other had so=
me of that, plus a goo that looked like frog-egg liquid. =C2=A0<u></u><u></=
u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 The goo was easy enough to f=
igure out, but as the chunks are far larger than would pass through the SU =
carb banjo filters, the SU pump filter, the additional filter he has in lin=
e, and the original screen filter in the tank, it was a puzzle.=C2=A0 We co=
uld check banjo, pump and additional filter-none had any grit or sediment.=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 Pump deliv=
ers the pint/minute quantity that workshop manual says.<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 Engine runs better, but not much. I =
suspect that some of the sediment is in the passage from float chamber to t=
he jet, but we ran out of day yesterday.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">Bob<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bott=
om:12pt"><br>On Jun 13, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin=
-bottom:5pt"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0Good work H=
ans! I too had a successful day at the shop. I replaced in two bolts in the=
 waterpump housing and the leak is gone! We brought the engine up to temper=
ature with (up to) 13# coolant pressure, and no leaks.<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0I also found a small fuel leak =
at the intake of the fuel pump. A couple of spannet twists put that right a=
nd dry. With that, we made a few laps around the shop and all was still wel=
l.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rick<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 AM Hans Duinhoven &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:h.duinho=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u=
><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;bo=
rder-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm=
 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;=
color:rgb(31,73,125)">Funny =E2=80=93 I solved coolant issues earlier and y=
esterday.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,1=
25)">Had to replace the thermostat housing gasket and yesterday I had to re=
place the hose connecting the bottom radiator pipe to the waterpump.</span>=
<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">A horrible =
job to do, as there is almost no space to work at the bottom of the radiato=
r pipe.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
 style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)">Nut with a dry result!</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;c=
olor:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif=
;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Fully cleaned a clogged charcoal filter and renewed =
the charcoal particles.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;col=
or:rgb(31,73,125)">Replaced the oil filler cap and will renew the brake flu=
id tomorrow.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,7=
3,125)">Then the GT should be roadworthy again.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-famil=
y:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fam=
ily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Cheers,</span><u></u><u></u></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-=
family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hans</span><u></u><u></u></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-=
family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">71 BGT NRG - </span><u></u>=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:1=
1pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span><u></=
u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size=
:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span><u>=
</u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span><=
u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">Van:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Mgs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>Namens <=
/b>Richard Lindsay via Mgs<br><b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 12 juni 2019 18:51=
<br><b>Aan:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mgs=
@autox.team.net</a> List<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> [Mgs] Silly error.</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Friends,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0My TR6 rebuilt engine leaks coolant. Okay, its not an MG but the =
issue is universal. Here&#39;s the short story.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0When reassembling the waterpump I made=
 a newbie error. I got in a hurry and left out two bolts, some of the bolts=
 that hold the pump body to the head. The coolant leak is through one of th=
ose bolt holes. The threaded hole drilling entered the head&#39;s water jac=
ket and of course, leaks.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">=C2=A0 =C2=A0I now have new bolts and I will apply sealant to the threads=
 and place fiber sealing washers under the bolt heads. Doing so hopefully c=
ompletes the engine rebuild. I can then get back to replacing the top on my=
 MG TD.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u>=
</u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rick<u></u><u></u></p></div></div=
></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_4470621023755993352m_-737199480811640730m_-266651=
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