Subject: Re: [Mgs] oil

From: Richard Lindsay via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:33:30 -0500

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I guess I'm just an old school fool, but I don't drive my LBCs much. I use
Castrol GTX 20W50 in my TR6, TD and E-Type.

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 4:19 PM dave via Mgs <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for several years=
 now, and
> it used to be immediately available from Amazon with free shipping.  It h=
as
> zddp.
>
>
>
> Now its 1 to 2 months.
>
>
>
> However =E2=80=93 Advanced Auto Parts -
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synt=
hetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=3Dvalvoline+20w-50+ful=
l+synthetic
>
>
>
> free shipping with a minimum order of $25, which is 3 quarts.  You can bu=
y
> it any number of quarts (from Amazon it=E2=80=99s a 6 pack), and it=E2=80=
=99s a couple
> pennies cheaper!!!
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<div dir=3D"auto">I guess I&#39;m just an old school fool, but I don&#39;t =
drive my LBCs much. I use Castrol GTX 20W50 in my TR6, TD and E-Type.</div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon=
, Jun 17, 2019, 4:19 PM dave via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-=
823569802960541818WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve been us=
ing Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for several years now, and it used to b=
e immediately available from Amazon with free shipping.=C2=A0 It has zddp.<=
u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">Now its 1 to 2 months.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">However =E2=80=93 Advanced A=
uto Parts - <a href=3D"https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-ra=
cing-20w-50-full-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=
=3Dvalvoline+20w-50+full+synthetic" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">ht=
tps://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-syntheti=
c-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=3Dvalvoline+20w-50+full+sy=
nthetic</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">free shipping with a minimum order of $25, which is=
 3 quarts.=C2=A0 You can buy it any number of quarts (from Amazon it=E2=80=
=99s a 6 pack), and it=E2=80=99s a couple pennies cheaper!!!<u></u><u></u><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div>_____________=
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From: David Councill via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:13:32 -0700

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I was using the Valvoline VR1 racing oil =E2=80=93 but being in a rural =
town, I have to have NAPA order it in and then I pick it up a few days =
later. But then my son was telling me to use the =E2=80=9Cclassic car =
motor oil=E2=80=9D that he was ordering off the Internet. The price with =
shipping was about the same as I was paying for the Valvoline (after our =
high sales tax is added in) and it gets delivered to the door. The oil =
is from an Indiana oil company but now appears to be sold through the =
Indiana Classic Car Club of America. It=E2=80=99s a little thinner at =
15W-40 but seems to work and leak just as good as the Valvoline =
=E2=80=93http://www.classiccarmotoroil.com

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I was =
using the Valvoline VR1 racing oil =E2=80=93 but being in a rural town, =
I have to have NAPA order it in and then I pick it up a few days later. =
But then my son was telling me to use the =E2=80=9Cclassic car motor =
oil=E2=80=9D that he was ordering off the Internet. The price with =
shipping was about the same as I was paying for the Valvoline (after our =
high sales tax is added in) and it gets delivered to the door. The oil =
is from an Indiana oil company but now appears to be sold through the =
Indiana Classic Car Club of America. It=E2=80=99s a little thinner at =
15W-40 but seems to work and leak just as good as the Valvoline =
=E2=80=93<a =
href=3D"http://www.classiccarmotoroil.com">http://www.classiccarmotoroil.=
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From: Max Heim via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:28:50 -0700

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Yeah, I used it for years. But then back around the early 2000s I had to =
replace the cam. All the lobes were scored, and the lifters spalled. =
That=E2=80=99s when I started hearing about zinc and the absence of =
same. Somewhere between being rated =E2=80=9CSG=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CSM=E2=
=80=9D all the zinc went away. It took me a while to find a good high =
zinc oil that was locally available.

I replaced the lifters again last fall, as a precaution, since I had the =
head off anyway. One was just starting to show spots.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Jun 17, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I guess I'm just an old school fool, but I don't drive my LBCs much. I =
use Castrol GTX 20W50 in my TR6, TD and E-Type.
>=20
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 4:19 PM dave via Mgs <[email-masked] =
> I=E2=80=99ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for several =
years now, and it used to be immediately available from Amazon with free =
shipping.  It has zddp.

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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Yeah, I used it for years. But then back around the early =
2000s I had to replace the cam. All the lobes were scored, and the =
lifters spalled. That=E2=80=99s when I started hearing about zinc and =
the absence of same. Somewhere between being rated =E2=80=9CSG=E2=80=9D =
and =E2=80=9CSM=E2=80=9D all the zinc went away. It took me a while to =
find a good high zinc oil that was locally available.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I replaced the lifters again last fall, =
as a precaution, since I had the head off anyway. One was just starting =
to show spots.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
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break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;" =
class=3D"">--</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; =
min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 17, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">I guess I'm just an old school fool, but I don't drive my =
LBCs much. I use Castrol GTX 20W50 in my TR6, TD and E-Type.</div><br =
style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family: Verdana; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 4:19 PM dave via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
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class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full =
synthetic for several years now, and it used to be immediately available =
from Amazon with free shipping.&nbsp; It has zddp.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div=
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From: Simon Matthews via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 22:45:47 -0700

Max,
The composition of the oil is dependent on the weight. The
specifications allow more zinc and phosphorus in the heavier oils.
That's why you can get SG rated oil with plenty of Zinc and
Phosphorus.

I suspect the most important parameter when buying oil for your MG is
to ensure is is 20W/50. As you are in the Bay Area, I suspect you can
buy Amsoil 20W/50, which is SG rated, but marketed as having high Zinc
and especially suitable for flat tappet engines.

Simon

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:28 PM Max Heim via Mgs <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I used it for years. But then back around the early 2000s I had to replace the cam. All the lobes were scored, and the lifters spalled. That’s when I started hearing about zinc and the absence of same. Somewhere between being rated “SG” and “SM” all the zinc went away. It took me a while to find a good high zinc oil that was locally available.
>
> I replaced the lifters again last fall, as a precaution, since I had the head off anyway. One was just starting to show spots.
>
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
>
> On Jun 17, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> I guess I'm just an old school fool, but I don't drive my LBCs much. I use Castrol GTX 20W50 in my TR6, TD and E-Type.
>
>> I’ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for several years now, and it used to be immediately available from Amazon with free shipping.  It has zddp.
>>
>>
>
>
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