Subject: Re: [Mgs] Interesting discovery

From: lrc--- via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 15:03:48 -0700

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As I get older I get evin-ruder=2E

On April 26, 2019 12:10:10 PM PDT, Barrie Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox=2Ete=
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>You see what happens when you get old !!!=C2=A0 Of course it was Johnson=
=C2=A0 -=20
>how the heck did I get onto Evinrude ???
>
>Barrie - from Borneo days
>
>On 4/26/2019 11:48 AM, David Breneman via Mgs wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 5:02 PM Barrie Robinson <barrob@bell=2Enet>
>wrote:
>>>  =C2=A0=C2=A0 When I sold Evinrude outboard motors in Borneo we used t=
o buy
>Mercury
>>> spare parts because they were cheaper than the prestigious Evinrude
>-
>>> they were both the same engine only branded differently=2E
>> Are you sure you don't mean Johnson?=C2=A0 I'm not aware of any
>commonality
>> between (former) OMC and Mercury/Mariner=2E
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  <body text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">As I get older I get evin-rud=
er=2E<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On April 26, 2019 12:10:10 PM PDT, =
Barrie Robinson via Mgs &lt;mgs@autox=2Eteam=2Enet&gt; wrote:<blockquote cl=
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    <font size=3D"-1"><font face=3D"Arial">You see what happens when you g=
et
        old !!!&nbsp; Of course it was Johnson&nbsp; - how the heck did I =
get onto
        Evinrude ???<br>
        <br>
        Barrie - from Borneo days<br>
      </font></font><br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 4/26/2019 11:48 AM, David Breneman
      via Mgs wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:682853804=2E997794=2E15562936969=
73@mail=2Eyahoo=2Ecom">
      <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 5:02 PM Barrie Robinson <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc=
2396E" href=3D"mailto:barrob@bell=2Enet">&lt;barrob@bell=2Enet&gt;</a> wrot=
e:
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        <pre class=3D"moz-quote-pre" wrap=3D"">
&nbsp;&nbsp; When I sold Evinrude outboard motors in Borneo we used to buy=
 Mercury=20
spare parts because they were cheaper than the prestigious Evinrude -=20
they were both the same engine only branded differently=2E
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Are you sure you don't mean Johnson?&nbsp; I'm not aware of any commonalit=
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between (former) OMC and Mercury/Mariner=2E

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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 18:01:59 -0400

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Rick,

That's not an unusual practice.  Many do that all the time.  My local 
Brit garage is set up as an MG parts supplier but gets most of his parts 
from Moss.  The Little British Car company do the same.   When I sold 
Evinrude outboard motors in Borneo we used to buy Mercury spare parts 
because they were cheaper than the prestigious Evinrude - they were both 
the same engine only branded differently.
Cheers

On 4/25/2019 5:43 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs wrote:
> Hey Friends,
>     I just received a shipment from Victoria British. Its a TR6 coolant
> pipe from the water pump back to the rear of the head, for the heater.
> The fun bit is that the V.B. 2-792 part number sticker was placed over
> a Moss 865-080 part number sticker! That's a fun if puzzling
> discovery.
>
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    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Rick,<br>
        <br>
        That's not an unusual practice.  Many do that all the time.  My
        local Brit garage is set up as an MG parts supplier but gets
        most of his parts from Moss.  The Little British Car company do
        the same.   When I sold Evinrude outboard motors in Borneo we
        used to buy Mercury spare parts because they were cheaper than
        the prestigious Evinrude - they were both the same engine only
        branded differently.<br>
      </font></font>Cheers<br>
    <img moz-do-not-send="false"
      src="cid:[email-masked]" alt="" width="200"
      height="63"><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/25/2019 5:43 PM, Richard Lindsay
      via Mgs wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:[email-masked]">
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hey Friends,
   I just received a shipment from Victoria British. Its a TR6 coolant
pipe from the water pump back to the rear of the head, for the heater.
The fun bit is that the V.B. 2-792 part number sticker was placed over
a Moss 865-080 part number sticker! That's a fun if puzzling
discovery.

Rick

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From: Richard Lindsay via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 17:13:15 -0500

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Makes sense. Just hadn't seen it before.

You worked in Borneo? I worked in Brunei. Small world.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 5:02 PM Barrie Robinson <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Rick,
>
> That's not an unusual practice.  Many do that all the time.  My local Brit
> garage is set up as an MG parts supplier but gets most of his parts from
> Moss.  The Little British Car company do the same.   When I sold Evinrude
> outboard motors in Borneo we used to buy Mercury spare parts because they
> were cheaper than the prestigious Evinrude - they were both the same engine
> only branded differently.
> Cheers
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Makes sense. Just hadn&#39;t seen it before.<div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">You worked in Borneo? I worked in Bru=
nei. Small world.</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 5:02 PM Barrie Robinson &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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    <font size=3D"-1"><font face=3D"Arial">Rick,<br>
        <br>
        That&#39;s not an unusual practice.=C2=A0 Many do that all the time=
.=C2=A0 My
        local Brit garage is set up as an MG parts supplier but gets
        most of his parts from Moss.=C2=A0 The Little British Car company d=
o
        the same.=C2=A0=C2=A0 When I sold Evinrude outboard motors in Borne=
o we
        used to buy Mercury spare parts because they were cheaper than
        the prestigious Evinrude - they were both the same engine only
        branded differently.<br>
      </font></font>Cheers<br>
    <img src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" alt=3D"" width=3D"200=
" height=3D"63"><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"m_-5705824072548698542moz-cite-prefix">On 4/25/2019 5:43 =
PM, Richard Lindsay
      via Mgs wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <pre class=3D"m_-5705824072548698542moz-quote-pre">Hey Friends,
   I just received a shipment from Victoria British. Its a TR6 coolant
pipe from the water pump back to the rear of the head, for the heater.
The fun bit is that the V.B. 2-792 part number sticker was placed over
a Moss 865-080 part number sticker! That&#39;s a fun if puzzling
discovery.

Rick

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Well, I think it's unusual in that VB is billed as a competitor to Moss,
right? Not like a local parts supplier that keeps a supply of Moss (or VB)
sourced parts for local pick-up...

Dan D
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Well, I think it&#39;s unusual in that VB is billed as a c=
ompetitor to Moss, right? Not like a local parts supplier that keeps a supp=
ly of Moss (or VB) sourced parts for local pick-up...<div><br></div><div>Da=
n D</div><div>Central NJ USA<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
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mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6=
:13 PM Richard Lindsay via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mg=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Makes sense. Just hadn&#39;t seen it=
 before.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">You worked in Borneo?=
 I worked in Brunei. Small world.</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 5:02 PM Barrie R=
obinson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">barrob@bel=
l.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex">
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    <font size=3D"-1"><font face=3D"Arial">Rick,<br>
        <br>
        That&#39;s not an unusual practice.=C2=A0 Many do that all the time=
.=C2=A0 My
        local Brit garage is set up as an MG parts supplier but gets
        most of his parts from Moss.=C2=A0 The Little British Car company d=
o
        the same.=C2=A0=C2=A0 When I sold Evinrude outboard motors in Borne=
o we
        used to buy Mercury spare parts because they were cheaper than
        the prestigious Evinrude - they were both the same engine only
        branded differently.<br>
      </font></font>Cheers<br>
    <img alt=3D"" width=3D"200" height=3D"63"><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"gmail-m_870826638777603510m_-5705824072548698542moz-cite-=
prefix">On 4/25/2019 5:43 PM, Richard Lindsay
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      <pre class=3D"gmail-m_870826638777603510m_-5705824072548698542moz-quo=
te-pre">Hey Friends,
   I just received a shipment from Victoria British. Its a TR6 coolant
pipe from the water pump back to the rear of the head, for the heater.
The fun bit is that the V.B. 2-792 part number sticker was placed over
a Moss 865-080 part number sticker! That&#39;s a fun if puzzling
discovery.

Rick

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Full normal Moss sticker, logo and all, under the VB sticker.

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> Richard Lindsay via Mgs wrote on 4/25/19 2:43 PM:
> > Hey Friends,
> Was Moss printed on the sticker? Or was it just the Moss number printed
> on the sticker?
>
> It could well be that Moss is the importer and VB buys some things
> wholesale through them.  There might be some other parts that VB buys
> and sells to Moss.
>
> Is Kelvin still on the list?  He might know what it happening. And if he
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<div dir=3D"auto">Full normal Moss sticker, logo and all, under the VB stic=
ker.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 11:03 AM Larry Colen via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
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Richard Lindsay via Mgs wrote on 4/25/19 2:43 PM:<br>
&gt; Hey Friends,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I just received a shipment from Victoria British. I=
ts a TR6 coolant<br>
&gt; pipe from the water pump back to the rear of the head, for the heater.=
<br>
&gt; The fun bit is that the V.B. 2-792 part number sticker was placed over=
<br>
&gt; a Moss 865-080 part number sticker! That&#39;s a fun if puzzling<br>
&gt; discovery.<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
Was Moss printed on the sticker? Or was it just the Moss number printed <br=
on the sticker?<br>
<br>
It could well be that Moss is the importer and VB buys some things <br>
wholesale through them.=C2=A0 There might be some other parts that VB buys =
<br>
and sells to Moss.<br>
<br>
Is Kelvin still on the list?=C2=A0 He might know what it happening. And if =
he <br>
does, he might be able to say.<br>
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They are vendors, not manufacturers.  Purchasers may well have favourite =
supplier, and if that supplier can get stuff off another supplier =
cheaper than they could off the manufacturer, perhaps because of lack of =
volume, then why not.  It's all part of the global economy.

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  Well, I think it's unusual in that VB is billed as a competitor to =
Moss, right? Not like a local parts supplier that keeps a supply of Moss =
(or VB) sourced parts for local pick-up...
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From: Barrie Robinson via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 15:10:10 -0400

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You see what happens when you get old !!!  Of course it was Johnson  - 
how the heck did I get onto Evinrude ???

On 4/26/2019 11:48 AM, David Breneman via Mgs wrote:
>>     When I sold Evinrude outboard motors in Borneo we used to buy Mercury
>> spare parts because they were cheaper than the prestigious Evinrude -
>> they were both the same engine only branded differently.
> Are you sure you don't mean Johnson?  I'm not aware of any commonality
> between (former) OMC and Mercury/Mariner.
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    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">You see what happens when you get
        old !!!  Of course it was Johnson  - how the heck did I get onto
        Evinrude ???<br>
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        Barrie - from Borneo days<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/26/2019 11:48 AM, David Breneman
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On Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 5:02 PM Barrie Robinson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:
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   When I sold Evinrude outboard motors in Borneo we used to buy Mercury 
spare parts because they were cheaper than the prestigious Evinrude - 
they were both the same engine only branded differently.
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Are you sure you don't mean Johnson?  I'm not aware of any commonality
between (former) OMC and Mercury/Mariner.

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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 15:48:16 +0000 (UTC)

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