Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB Turn Signals

From: Max Heim via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 15:08:10 -0700

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It=E2=80=99s in the turn signal switch. If you remove the steering column co=
wl, you can see the colored wires and their end connections. When I just had=
 this same symptom, it was because one out of two springs under the floating=
 contact had vanished, so it would not make solid contact when at one end of=
 the stalk travel, although it was OK at the other end. Result: turn signal f=
lashed only on one side.

Max

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:15 PM, mghirsch--- via Mgs <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
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> I'd start by checiking the grounds.
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> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Jack Wheeler via Mgs <[email-masked]>
> To: Mglist <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [Mgs] MGB Turn Signals
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 17:25:11 +0000 (UTC)
>=20
> I have a 1971 MGB.  The right side turn signals do not work.  Left side wo=
rks fine, and the 4 Way flashers work, as well (all 4).  I have replaced the=
 bulbs in the front and rear turn signals on the right side, and checked to s=
ee that all of the fuses are OK, but still no turn signals on the right side=
.  Any ideas?
> =20
> I'm thinking maybe the flasher unit, but it seems like if the left side tu=
rn signals work OK, then the flasher should be OK.  So, I'm stuck.
> =20
> I'd appreciate any ideas you may have to help me.  Thank you.
> =20
> Jack Wheeler
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">It=E2=80=99s in the turn signal switch. If y=
ou remove the steering column cowl, you can see the colored wires and their e=
nd connections. When I just had this same symptom, it was because one out of=
 two springs under the floating contact had vanished, so it would not make s=
olid contact when at one end of the stalk travel, although it was OK at the o=
ther end. Result: turn signal flashed only on one side.<div><br></div><div>M=
ax<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:15 PM, mghirsch--- via Mgs &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><b=
r></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I'd start by checiki=
ng the grounds.<br><br>---------- Original Message ----------<br>From: Jack W=
heeler via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;<br>To: Mglist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt;<br>Subject: [Mgs] MGB Turn Signals<br>Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 1=
7:25:11 +0000 (UTC)<br><br><p></p>
<div class=3D"ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica N=
eue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">I have a 1971 MGB.&nbsp=
; The right side turn signals do not work.&nbsp; Left side works fine, and t=
he 4 Way flashers work, as well (all 4).&nbsp; I have replaced the bulbs in t=
he front and rear turn signals on the right side, and checked to see that al=
l of the fuses are OK, but still no turn signals on the right side.&nbsp; An=
y ideas?</div>
<div class=3D"ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica N=
eue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica N=
eue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">I'm thinking maybe the f=
lasher unit, but it seems like if the left side turn signals work OK, then t=
he flasher should be OK.&nbsp; So, I'm stuck.</div>
<div class=3D"ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica N=
eue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica N=
eue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">I'd appreciate any idea=
s you may have to help me.&nbsp; Thank you.</div>
<div class=3D"ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica N=
eue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica N=
eue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Jack Wheeler</div>

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From: Max Heim via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 16:19:50 -0700

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My switch was a =E2=80=9Creplacement=E2=80=9D as well, although it was =
at least ten years old when the problem occurred. I spent a lot of time =
monkeying with it before deciding to just buy a new one. Then I =
attempted a post-mortem, and discovered the missing spring. I think I =
probably could have fixed it, assuming I could find a suitable spring. =
It might have involved drilling out rivets.

If you wanted to try it, I would check to see if I still have the switch =
I took off =E2=80=94 you could have it for parts.

Basically, I determined the fault by jumping the contacts with the key =
on, and seeing what resulted. I could make it flash with a jumper, but =
not with the switch.

--
Max Heim
[email-masked]

> On Mar 15, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Jack Wheeler <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
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> Thanks Max.  I installed a new switch about a year ago.  Is it likely =
that a new switch would go bad this quickly?  When you had the problem =
did you have to replace the switch, or were you able to repair the old =
one?
>=20
> Jack
>=20
> On Friday, March 15, 2019, 6:08:10 PM EDT, Max Heim <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
>=20
> It=E2=80=99s in the turn signal switch. If you remove the steering =
column cowl, you can see the colored wires and their end connections. =
When I just had this same symptom, it was because one out of two springs =
under the floating contact had vanished, so it would not make solid =
contact when at one end of the stalk travel, although it was OK at the =
other end. Result: turn signal flashed only on one side.
>=20
> Max
>=20
> Sent from my iPad
>=20
> On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:15 PM, mghirsch--- via Mgs <[email-masked] =
>=20
>> From: Jack Wheeler via Mgs <[email-masked] =
>> I have a 1971 MGB.  The right side turn signals do not work.  Left =
side works fine, and the 4 Way flashers work, as well (all 4).  I have =
replaced the bulbs in the front and rear turn signals on the right side, =
and checked to see that all of the fuses are OK, but still no turn =
signals on the right side.  Any ideas?
>> =20
>> I'm thinking maybe the flasher unit, but it seems like if the left =
side turn signals work OK, then the flasher should be OK.  So, I'm =
stuck.
>>  =
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">My switch was a =E2=80=9Creplacement=E2=80=9D as well, =
although it was at least ten years old when the problem occurred. I =
spent a lot of time monkeying with it before deciding to just buy a new =
one. Then I attempted a post-mortem, and discovered the missing spring. =
I think I probably could have fixed it, assuming I could find a suitable =
spring. It might have involved drilling out rivets.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If you wanted to try it, I would check =
to see if I still have the switch I took off =E2=80=94 you could have it =
for parts.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Basically, I determined the fault by jumping the contacts =
with the key on, and seeing what resulted. I could make it flash with a =
jumper, but not with the switch.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">--</div><div class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a></div><div=
 class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">

</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Mar 15, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Jack Wheeler &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"ydp962f9366yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div class=3D""></div>=

        <div class=3D"">Thanks Max.&nbsp; I installed a new switch about =
a year ago.&nbsp; Is it likely that a new switch would go bad this =
quickly?&nbsp; When you had the problem did you have to replace the =
switch, or were you able to repair the old one?<br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Jack<br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
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                <div class=3D"">
                    On Friday, March 15, 2019, 6:08:10 PM EDT, Max Heim =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><div id=3D"ydp72976905yiv0659975099" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s in the turn signal switch. If =
you remove the steering column cowl, you can see the colored wires and =
their end connections. When I just had this same symptom, it was because =
one out of two springs under the floating contact had vanished, so it =
would not make solid contact when at one end of the stalk travel, =
although it was OK at the other end. Result: turn signal flashed only on =
one side.<div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Max<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"ydp72976905yiv0659975099AppleMailSignature" class=3D"">Sent from =
my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"ydp72976905yiv0659975099yqt6925592387" =
id=3D"ydp72976905yiv0659975099yqtfd82322"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">On=
 Mar 15, 2019, at 12:15 PM, mghirsch--- via Mgs &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div></div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"ydp72976905yiv0659975099yqt6925592387" =
id=3D"ydp72976905yiv0659975099yqtfd96932">I'd start by checiking the =
grounds.<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">---------- Original Message ----------<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">From: Jack Wheeler via Mgs &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">To: =
Mglist &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">Subject: [Mgs] MGB Turn Signals<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 17:25:11 +0000 (UTC)<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
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style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;">I have a 1971 MGB.&nbsp; The right side turn =
signals do not work.&nbsp; Left side works fine, and the 4 Way flashers =
work, as well (all 4).&nbsp; I have replaced the bulbs in the front and =
rear turn signals on the right side, and checked to see that all of the =
fuses are OK, but still no turn signals on the right side.&nbsp; Any =
ideas?</div>
<div class=3D"ydp72976905yiv0659975099ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"ydp72976905yiv0659975099ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;">I'm thinking maybe the flasher unit, but it =
seems like if the left side turn signals work OK, then the flasher =
should be OK.&nbsp; So, I'm stuck.</div>
<div class=3D"ydp72976905yiv0659975099ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;">&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"ydp72976905yiv0659975099ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;">I'd appreciate any ideas you may have to =
help me.&nbsp; Thank you.</div>
<div class=3D"ydp72976905yiv0659975099ydp4703184eyahoo-style-wrap" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;">&nbsp;</div>
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style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Jack Wheeler</div></div>

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If it was a problem at the corners of the car including earth/ground =
there then the hazard flashers wouldn't light that corner, it's unlikely =
both ends one side would fail at the same time, and they would stop =
flashing as soon as the first corner failed.

Whilst the turn flasher IS fed through the hazard flasher switch if =
there were a problem there then likewise neither side would work.

Logic, gentlemen!
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Message tell, that hazard switch let all 4 lamps flash. So no ground issue
at the lamps, nor the feed from the hazard unit. I still opt for a lose
connection between the stalk switch and the interconnection, where this
connection hooks up at the wire from the hazard switch.

Yes, the hazard flasher unit "feeds" the indicator flasher unit, but if the
hazard flasher is not feeding that line, both sides (left and right)
indicators will not work.

In the problem description left is working and right is not.

My 2 cents (or for Paul pence)

Cheers,

Hans '71 BGT

Van: Mgs [mailto:[email-masked]] Namens PaulHunt73 via Mgs
Verzonden: zaterdag 16 maart 2019 9:56
CC: [email-masked]
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] MGB Turn Signals

If it was a problem at the corners of the car including earth/ground there
then the hazard flashers wouldn't light that corner, it's unlikely both ends
one side would fail at the same time, and they would stop flashing as soon
as the first corner failed.

Whilst the turn flasher IS fed through the hazard flasher switch if there
were a problem there then likewise neither side would work.

Logic, gentlemen!

----- Original Message ----- 
I have a 1971 MGB.  The right side turn signals do not work.  Left side
works fine, and the 4 Way flashers work, as well (all 4).  I have replaced
the bulbs in the front and rear turn signals on the right side, and checked
to see that all of the fuses are OK, but still no turn signals on the right
side.  Any ideas?

I'm thinking maybe the flasher unit, but it seems like if the left side turn
signals work OK, then the flasher should be OK.  So, I'm stuck.

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work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D=
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team.net] <b>Namens </b>PaulHunt73 via Mgs<br><b>Verzonden:</b> zaterdag 16=
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shing as soon as the first corner failed.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><=
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t side turn signals do not work.&nbsp; Left side works fine, and the 4 Way =
flashers work, as well (all 4).&nbsp; I have replaced the bulbs in the fron=
t and rear turn signals on the right side, and checked to see that all of t=
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Mea culpa, logic failure.  Because the hazards flash all four corners it =
can't be the bullet connector where the rear harness joins the main =
harness either.

So either the switch, or possibly the connector block as described.  =
This may help with the switch =
http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/turnswitch.htm#1

PaulH.

  Message tell, that hazard switch let all 4 lamps flash. So no ground =
issue at the lamps, nor the feed from the hazard unit. I still opt for a =
lose connection between the stalk switch and the interconnection, where =
this connection hooks up at the wire from the hazard switch.

  =20

  Yes, the hazard flasher unit "feeds" the indicator flasher unit, but =
if the hazard flasher is not feeding that line, both sides (left and =
right) indicators will not work.

  =20

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