Subject: [Mgs] since we need traffic

From: dave n via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 18:59:21 -0600

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first of all, hello to Richard Lindsay.  good to see you posting again.

after my MGA sat neglected for a few months (LCOS??) the carbs leaked =
badly.  I took them apart, cleaned them, and was going to do the rebuild =
myself, except we could not get the throttle shaft bushings in right.  =
so I sent them off, and eventually they returned.

while I was there, replaced the freeze plugs/casting seals in the side =
of the engine.  that took 3 tries to get right!  also replaced the oil =
filter.  this is a 56.  it has the unique =E2=80=9Cside draft=E2=80=9D =
oil filter container.  I couldn=E2=80=99t bear to replace it with a spin =
on; its too cool.  but it is truly awful to change the filter.  first =
time I cranked up the engine oil went everywhere as I hadn=E2=80=99t =
tightened that bottom nut sufficiently.  second time there was still =
some seepage.  third time seemed good.  drove the car around the block, =
taking a few extra blocks in the process.  life is good!!!

a few days later I took it out again.  this time I noticed there was oil =
everywhere, in the ally, in the driveway, on the garage floor.  oh =
dear!!

now its waiting its turn on the lift as I finish another car.  1967 =
Datsun Roadster.  for those of you who know the cars, its an early low =
windshield car.  had to redo the rear brakes, and realized just how =
dirty etc., the rear axle and suspension were.  they all came out!  =
I=E2=80=99ve finished up the cleaning, wire wheeling, power washing, and =
painting.  the rear end and most of the suspension is back in.  just =
have to finish up one shock, the hand brake, and bleed.  thank goodness =
I have speed bleeders!

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<DIV>first of all, hello to Richard Lindsay.&nbsp; good to see you =
posting=20
again.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>after my MGA sat neglected for a few months (LCOS??) the carbs =
leaked=20
badly.&nbsp; I took them apart, cleaned them, and was going to do the =
rebuild=20
myself, except we could not get the throttle shaft bushings in =
right.&nbsp; so I=20
sent them off, and eventually they returned.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>while I was there, replaced the freeze plugs/casting seals in the =
side of=20
the engine.&nbsp; that took 3 tries to get right!&nbsp; also replaced =
the oil=20
filter.&nbsp; this is a 56.&nbsp; it has the unique =E2=80=9Cside =
draft=E2=80=9D oil filter=20
container.&nbsp; I couldn=E2=80=99t bear to replace it with a spin on; =
its too=20
cool.&nbsp; but it is truly awful to change the filter.&nbsp; first time =
I=20
cranked up the engine oil went everywhere as I hadn=E2=80=99t tightened =
that bottom nut=20
sufficiently.&nbsp; second time there was still some seepage.&nbsp; =
third time=20
seemed good.&nbsp; drove the car around the block, taking a few extra =
blocks in=20
the process.&nbsp; life is good!!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>a few days later I took it out again.&nbsp; this time I noticed =
there was=20
oil everywhere, in the ally, in the driveway, on the garage floor.&nbsp; =
oh=20
dear!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>now its waiting its turn on the lift as I finish another car.&nbsp; =
1967=20
Datsun Roadster.&nbsp; for those of you who know the cars, its an early =
low=20
windshield car.&nbsp; had to redo the rear brakes, and realized just how =
dirty=20
etc., the rear axle and suspension were.&nbsp; they all came out!&nbsp; =
I=E2=80=99ve=20
finished up the cleaning, wire wheeling, power washing, and =
painting.&nbsp; the=20
rear end and most of the suspension is back in.&nbsp; just have to =
finish up one=20
shock, the hand brake, and bleed.&nbsp; thank goodness I have speed=20
bleeders!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 01:12:38 +0000 (UTC)

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Rick, did you ever get the TD back on the street?
Dan D

      From: Richard Lindsay <[email-masked]>
 To: Dan DiBiase <[email-masked]> 
Cc: "[email-masked] List" <[email-masked]>; Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
 Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 10:47 AM
 Subject: Traffic, was: List meltdown?
   
Hi Friends,
Nice to see traffic here again. I guess we were all just napping a bit.
I just rebuilt the SUs on my TR3b and plan to tune the engine today. The ignition is rock solid, powerful and beautifully times, thanks to a full Pertronix distriburor. A bit of air balancing and air:fuel ratio testing and setting, and the car will be back strong!
Okay, yes, this is an MG forum. My MG TD suffers the same malady as the TR3b did: LCOS. 'That's Lazy Current Owner Syndrome'. I just let the car sit unused for months and the fuel grew old, leaving gum in the SUs as the volitiles preferentially evaporated. Like the TR3b, the jets no longer move. They're gummed in place, leaving the 'choke' control inoperative.
Once the TR3b is back running and strong, I will move on to the MG. It too has a Pertronix distributor. Timing is so consistant that the XPAG will idle just fine at 500rpm, if set higher for better furure drivability.
And that's my update for an otherwise quiet forum.
Best regards,
-rick, in Houston

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old;">From:</span></b> Richard Lindsay &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br=
> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Dan DiBiase &lt;d_di=
[email-masked]&gt; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b=
> "[email-masked] List" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Mark J Bradakis &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</spa=
n></b> Monday, December 5, 2016 10:47 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:=
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"><br><div id=3D"yiv8191435612"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480977408221_=
12067">Hi Friends,<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480977408221_12068"><br></d=
iv><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480977408221_12069">Nice to see traffic he=
re again. I guess we were all just napping a bit.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1480977408221_12070"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_148097=
7408221_12071">I just rebuilt the SUs on my TR3b and plan to tune the engin=
e today. The ignition is rock solid, powerful and beautifully times, thanks=
 to a full Pertronix distriburor. A bit of air balancing and air:fuel ratio=
 testing and setting, and the car will be back strong!</div><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1480977408221_12072"><br></div><div>Okay, yes, this is an MG =
forum. My MG TD suffers the same malady as the TR3b did: LCOS. 'That's Lazy=
 Current Owner Syndrome'. I just let the car sit unused for months and the =
fuel grew old, leaving gum in the SUs as the volitiles preferentially evapo=
rated. Like the TR3b, the jets no longer move. They're gummed in place, lea=
ving the 'choke' control inoperative.</div><div><br></div><div>Once the TR3=
b is back running and strong, I will move on to the MG. It too has a Pertro=
nix distributor. Timing is so consistant that the XPAG will idle just fine =
at 500rpm, if set higher for better furure drivability.</div><div><br></div=
><div>And that's my update for an otherwise quiet forum.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>-rick, in Houston</div></div>=
</div><br><br></div> </div> </div>  </div></div></body></html>
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From: Richard Lindsay via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 08:03:35 -0600

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Thank you Dave. If we take only one point to heart from our recent posts
its simply this: Cars don't like to sit unused.

This is true of our MGs, Triumphs and Jaguars, but its equally true of
Italian cars! Carbs gum up, fuel gets old and stinky, oil seals dry and
shrink, coolant decays, evaporates and leaves antifreeze crystals
everywhere, and owner fun diminishes appreciably! And it happens to all
cars, indepent of their country of origin.

Before I appear to climb too far up on my high-horse, let me state: I too
am horrible about keeping my cars driven. Okay, my TD is a project and its
not drivable, but that beautifully restored XPAG engine hasn't run in over
a year! That's not good. And in fact, the SU jets are stuck in place, glued
there with old fuel gum. They are soon to get re-rebuilt - just as I
recently did to the SUs on my old Triumph.

Let me leave you with these words, to maybe make you feel better about your
car repairs. I just took one of my exotics for its 30k mile 'major
service'. It too had been setting un-driven for over a year. The work
includes two new cam belts, all hoses and ancillary belts, waterpump, spark
plugs, a flush and new coolant, new synthetic oil and filters (yes, two of
them), A/C recharge, and valve clearances checked and corrected, as
required. That's 48 valves, by the way! And the service requires 40 hours
of labor since its an engine-out service. And the cost of this work at the
Ferrari dealership is more than a nicely presented MGB might fetch!
Fortunately, there are qualified and dependable independent shops that will
do this work for about half what the dealer charges. Yea, don't let your
exotic sit untouched either!

Best regards to all,

-rick
PS: The Testarossa's service cost is being funded by the sale of another
car. Sad, really. :-(

On Dec 6, 2016 12:05 AM, "dave n via Mgs" <[email-masked]> wrote:

after my MGA sat neglected for a few months (LCOS??) the carbs leaked
badly.  I took them apart, cleaned them, and was going to do the rebuild
myself, except we could not get the throttle shaft bushings in right.  so I
sent them off, and eventually they returned.

while I was there, replaced the freeze plugs/casting seals in the side of
the engine.  that took 3 tries to get right!  also replaced the oil
filter.  this is a 56.  it has the unique =E2=80=9Cside draft=E2=80=9D oil =
filter
container.  I couldn=E2=80=99t bear to replace it with a spin on; its too c=
ool.
but it is truly awful to change the filter.  first time I cranked up the
engine oil went everywhere as I hadn=E2=80=99t tightened that bottom nut
sufficiently.  second time there was still some seepage.  third time seemed
good.  drove the car around the block, taking a few extra blocks in the
process.  life is good!!!

a few days later I took it out again.  this time I noticed there was oil
everywhere, in the ally, in the driveway, on the garage floor.  oh dear!!

now its waiting its turn on the lift as I finish another car.  1967 Datsun
Roadster.  for those of you who know the cars, its an early low windshield
car.  had to redo the rear brakes, and realized just how dirty etc., the
rear axle and suspension were.  they all came out!  I=E2=80=99ve finished u=
p the
cleaning, wire wheeling, power washing, and painting.  the rear end and
most of the suspension is back in.  just have to finish up one shock, the
hand brake, and bleed.  thank goodness I have speed bleeders!

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Thank you Dave. If we take only one point to heart f=
rom our recent posts its simply this: Cars don&#39;t like to sit unused.<di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">This is true of our MGs, Triumph=
s and Jaguars, but its equally true of Italian cars! Carbs gum up, fuel get=
s old and stinky, oil seals dry and shrink, coolant decays, evaporates and =
leaves antifreeze crystals everywhere, and owner fun diminishes appreciably=
! And it happens to all cars, indepent of their country of origin.</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Before I appear to climb too far=
 up on my high-horse, let me state: I too am horrible about keeping my cars=
 driven. Okay, my TD is a project and its not drivable, but that beautifull=
y restored XPAG engine hasn&#39;t run in over a year! That&#39;s not good. =
And in fact, the SU jets are stuck in place, glued there with old fuel gum.=
 They are soon to get re-rebuilt - just as I recently did to the SUs on my =
old Triumph.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Let me leav=
e you with these words, to maybe make you feel better about your car repair=
s. I just took one of my exotics for its 30k mile &#39;major service&#39;. =
It too had been setting un-driven for over a year. The work includes two ne=
w cam belts, all hoses and ancillary belts, waterpump, spark plugs, a flush=
 and new coolant, new synthetic oil and filters (yes, two of them), A/C rec=
harge, and valve clearances checked and corrected, as required. That&#39;s =
48 valves, by the way! And the service requires 40 hours of labor since its=
 an engine-out service. And the cost of this work at the Ferrari dealership=
 is more than a nicely presented MGB might fetch! Fortunately, there are qu=
alified and dependable independent shops that will do this work for about h=
alf what the dealer charges. Yea, don&#39;t let your exotic sit untouched e=
ither!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Best regards to a=
ll,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">-rick</div><div dir=
=3D"auto">PS: The Testarossa&#39;s service cost is being funded by the sale=
 of another car. Sad, really. :-(</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Dec 6, 2016 12:05 AM, &quot;dave n via Mgs&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Arial&#39;;COLOR:#000000">
<div>first of all, hello to Richard Lindsay.=C2=A0 good to see you posting=
=20
again.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>after my MGA sat neglected for a few months (LCOS??) the carbs leaked=
=20
badly.=C2=A0 I took them apart, cleaned them, and was going to do the rebui=
ld=20
myself, except we could not get the throttle shaft bushings in right.=C2=A0=
 so I=20
sent them off, and eventually they returned.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>while I was there, replaced the freeze plugs/casting seals in the side=
 of=20
the engine.=C2=A0 that took 3 tries to get right!=C2=A0 also replaced the o=
il=20
filter.=C2=A0 this is a 56.=C2=A0 it has the unique =E2=80=9Cside draft=E2=
=80=9D oil filter=20
container.=C2=A0 I couldn=E2=80=99t bear to replace it with a spin on; its =
too=20
cool.=C2=A0 but it is truly awful to change the filter.=C2=A0 first time I=
=20
cranked up the engine oil went everywhere as I hadn=E2=80=99t tightened tha=
t bottom nut=20
sufficiently.=C2=A0 second time there was still some seepage.=C2=A0 third t=
ime=20
seemed good.=C2=A0 drove the car around the block, taking a few extra block=
s in=20
the process.=C2=A0 life is good!!!</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>a few days later I took it out again.=C2=A0 this time I noticed there =
was=20
oil everywhere, in the ally, in the driveway, on the garage floor.=C2=A0 oh=
=20
dear!!</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>now its waiting its turn on the lift as I finish another car.=C2=A0 19=
67=20
Datsun Roadster.=C2=A0 for those of you who know the cars, its an early low=
=20
windshield car.=C2=A0 had to redo the rear brakes, and realized just how di=
rty=20
etc., the rear axle and suspension were.=C2=A0 they all came out!=C2=A0 I=
=E2=80=99ve=20
finished up the cleaning, wire wheeling, power washing, and painting.=C2=A0=
 the=20
rear end and most of the suspension is back in.=C2=A0 just have to finish u=
p one=20
shock, the hand brake, and bleed.=C2=A0 thank goodness I have speed=20
bleeders!</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div>

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