Subject: Re: [Mgs] clutch question

From: Jack Wheeler via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:05:43 +0000 (UTC)

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If you are sure the release bearing is being pushed into the clutch pressur=
e plate the normal distance (i.e. 1/2" or so), your clutch disc could be st=
uck to the flywheel?=C2=A0 This sometimes happens when a car sits for a lon=
g time.=C2=A0 If this is the problem, you can usually break it loose by put=
ting the car on a flat paved surface, and put it in gear.=C2=A0 While holdi=
ng the clutch pedal all the way down to the floor, and your other foot on t=
he brake pedal, start the car.=C2=A0 A variation on this is to start the ca=
r in gear, then while cruising along, push the clutch pedal and break pedal=
 both at once, as hard as you can push (for the brake pedal).
Another technique is to hook a strong chain to a strong point on the frame =
of the MG, and get a big car (i.e. SUV) to tow it with.=C2=A0 Again on a fl=
at paved surface, put the car in gear and hold the clutch pedal all the way=
 down, then start pulling.=C2=A0 This will usually break it loose.=C2=A0 Go=
od luck.

Jack Wheeler

      From: Mike Duvall via Mgs <[email-masked]>
 To: [email-masked]=20
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:45 PM
 Subject: [Mgs] clutch question
  =20
My MGA keeps getting harder and harder to shift.=C2=A0 I was wondering if t=
he synchronizers are going bad.=C2=A0 Lately it seems like the clutch isn=
=E2=80=99t disengaging like their was air in the lines but the hydraulics w=
ere fine.=C2=A0 Then no clutch at all (sitting at home instead of the road =
thankfully)=C2=A0 The slave appeared to be moving adequately so I pulled it=
 off and I have all sorts of play in the arm.=C2=A0 I put a wrench on the a=
rm and it won=E2=80=99t release the clutch.=C2=A0 I can use a flashlight an=
d see the throw out bearing move back and forth.

I=E2=80=99m assuming I have a bad bearing on the arm.=C2=A0 Any other ideas=
 or suggestions for me before I pull the engine?=20

Thanks,=C2=A0 Mike

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nt-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39759">If you are sure =
the release bearing is being pushed into the clutch pressure plate the norm=
al distance (i.e. 1/2" or so), your clutch disc could be stuck to the flywh=
eel?&nbsp; This sometimes happens when a car sits for a long time.&nbsp; If=
 this is the problem, you can usually break it loose by putting the car on =
a flat paved surface, and put it in gear.&nbsp; While holding the clutch pe=
dal all the way down to the floor, and your other foot on the brake pedal, =
start the car.&nbsp; A variation on this is to start the car in gear, then =
while cruising along, push the clutch pedal and break pedal both at once, a=
s hard as you can push (for the brake pedal).</div><div><br></div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39878">Another technique is to hook a strong=
 chain to a strong point on the frame of the MG, and get a big car (i.e. SU=
V) to tow it with.&nbsp; Again on a flat paved surface, put the car in gear=
 and hold the clutch pedal all the way down, then start pulling.&nbsp; This=
 will usually break it loose.&nbsp; Good luck.<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1440245068270_39760"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_3=
9761">Jack Wheeler<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39328"><s=
pan></span></div><br>  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39326" style=
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40245068270_39324" dir=3D"ltr"> <hr id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39327"=
 size=3D"1">  <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weigh=
t:bold;">From:</span></b> Mike Duvall via Mgs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br=
> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> [email-masked] <=
br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 2=
3, 2015 5:45 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></=
b> [Mgs] clutch question<br> </font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245=
068270_39763" class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>My MGA keeps getting harder and=
 harder to shift.&nbsp; I was wondering if the synchronizers are going bad.=
&nbsp;  Lately it seems like the clutch isn=E2=80=99t disengaging like thei=
r was air in the lines but the hydraulics were fine.&nbsp; Then no clutch a=
t all (sitting at home instead of the road thankfully)&nbsp; The slave appe=
ared to be moving adequately so I pulled it off and I have all sorts of pla=
y in the arm.&nbsp;  I put a wrench on the arm and it won=E2=80=99t release=
 the clutch.&nbsp; I can use a flashlight and see the throw out bearing mov=
e back and forth.<br><br>I=E2=80=99m assuming I have a bad bearing on the a=
rm.&nbsp;  Any other ideas or suggestions for me before I pull the engine? =
<br><br>Thanks,&nbsp; Mike<br><br><br>_____________________________________=
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From: Mike Duvall via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 21:09:51 -0500

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I last drove it 4 weeks ago,  could it freeze up that fast?   If it were =
frozen, would that account for the not being able to move the clutch =
cover?   I would think so. =20

I was thinking the shaft bushings might be so worn, I=92m not getting =
the right leverage.=20

On Aug 23, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Jack Wheeler <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

> If you are sure the release bearing is being pushed into the clutch =
pressure plate the normal distance (i.e. 1/2" or so), your clutch disc =
could be stuck to the flywheel?  This sometimes happens when a car sits =
for a long time.  If this is the problem, you can usually break it loose =
by putting the car on a flat paved surface, and put it in gear.  While =
holding the clutch pedal all the way down to the floor, and your other =
foot on the brake pedal, start the car.  A variation on this is to start =
the car in gear, then while cruising along, push the clutch pedal and =
break pedal both at once, as hard as you can push (for the brake pedal).
>=20
> Another technique is to hook a strong chain to a strong point on the =
frame of the MG, and get a big car (i.e. SUV) to tow it with.  Again on =
a flat paved surface, put the car in gear and hold the clutch pedal all =
the way down, then start pulling.  This will usually break it loose.  =
Good luck.
> My MGA keeps getting harder and harder to shift.  I was wondering if =
the synchronizers are going bad.  Lately it seems like the clutch isn=92t =
disengaging like their was air in the lines but the hydraulics were =
fine.  Then no clutch at all (sitting at home instead of the road =
thankfully)  The slave appeared to be moving adequately so I pulled it =
off and I have all sorts of play in the arm.  I put a wrench on the arm =
and it won=92t release the clutch.  I can use a flashlight and see the =
throw out bearing move back and forth.
>=20
> I=92m assuming I have a bad bearing on the arm.  Any other ideas or =
suggestions for me before I pull the engine?=20

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charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>I =
last drove it 4 weeks ago, &nbsp;could it freeze up that fast? &nbsp; If =
it were frozen, would that account for the not being able to move the =
clutch cover? &nbsp; I would think so. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I =
was thinking the shaft bushings might be so worn, I=92m not getting the =
right =
leverage.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><di=
v><br></div><div>On Aug 23, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Jack Wheeler &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); =
font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida =
Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; position: static; z-index: =
auto;"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39759">If you are sure the =
release bearing is being pushed into the clutch pressure plate the =
normal distance (i.e. 1/2" or so), your clutch disc could be stuck to =
the flywheel?&nbsp; This sometimes happens when a car sits for a long =
time.&nbsp; If this is the problem, you can usually break it loose by =
putting the car on a flat paved surface, and put it in gear.&nbsp; While =
holding the clutch pedal all the way down to the floor, and your other =
foot on the brake pedal, start the car.&nbsp; A variation on this is to =
start the car in gear, then while cruising along, push the clutch pedal =
and break pedal both at once, as hard as you can push (for the brake =
pedal).</div><div><br></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39878">Another technique is to hook a =
strong chain to a strong point on the frame of the MG, and get a big car =
(i.e. SUV) to tow it with.&nbsp; Again on a flat paved surface, put the =
car in gear and hold the clutch pedal all the way down, then start =
pulling.&nbsp; This will usually break it loose.&nbsp; Good =
luck.<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39760"><br></div><div=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39761">Jack Wheeler<br></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39328"><span></span></div><br>  <div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39326" style=3D"font-family: =
HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
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sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39324" dir=3D"ltr"> <hr =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39327" size=3D"1">  <font face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Mike =
Duvall via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br> =
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> <br> <b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 23, 2015 =
5:45 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> =
[Mgs] clutch question<br> </font> </div> <div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39763" class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>My =
MGA keeps getting harder and harder to shift.&nbsp; I was wondering if =
the synchronizers are going bad.&nbsp;  Lately it seems like the clutch =
isn=92t disengaging like their was air in the lines but the hydraulics =
were fine.&nbsp; Then no clutch at all (sitting at home instead of the =
road thankfully)&nbsp; The slave appeared to be moving adequately so I =
pulled it off and I have all sorts of play in the arm.&nbsp;  I put a =
wrench on the arm and it won=92t release the clutch.&nbsp; I can use a =
flashlight and see the throw out bearing move back and forth.<br><br>I=92m=
 assuming I have a bad bearing on the arm.&nbsp;  Any other ideas or =
suggestions for me before I pull the engine? =
<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>=

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From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 09:25:46 +0100

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When it 'freezes' the pressure plate inside the cover plate (not the =
cover plate itself which is bolted to the flywheel) still moves, but the =
friction plate remains stuck to either the flywheel or the pressure =
plate.

You said it was getting harder and harder to change, if it were frozen =
you wouldn't be able to select any gear at a standstill, and it would =
grind horribly in any unsynchronised gear.  I've never heard of a clutch =
gradually freezing while still be able to use it.

How much slave piston travel are you getting?  The MGB for example needs =
about 1/2".  That reduces as you get wear in the pedal to master =
linkage, and causes the biting point to move towards the floor.  As you =
say air in the hydraulics causes the same thing.  But if the pedal =
pushes the slave push-rod out a reasonable amount, and it goes back in =
when you release the pedal, that shows there is still pressure from the =
clutch springs acting through the release bearing and release arm as =
normal, which implies the clutch itself may be OK.

Does it grind when trying to select an unsynchronised gear?  If so then =
it is a clutch problem, but if not then it is a gear selection problem.

PaulH.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mike Duvall via Mgs=20
  To: Jack Wheeler=20
  Cc: [email-masked]=20
  Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mgs] clutch question

  I last drove it 4 weeks ago,  could it freeze up that fast?   If it =
were frozen, would that account for the not being able to move the =
clutch cover?   I would think so. =20

    Jack Wheeler

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    My MGA keeps getting harder and harder to shift.  I was wondering if =
the synchronizers are going bad.  Lately it seems like the clutch =
isn=92t disengaging like their was air in the lines but the hydraulics =
were fine.  Then no clutch at all (sitting at home instead of the road =
thankfully)  The slave appeared to be moving adequately so I pulled it =
off and I have all sorts of play in the arm.  I put a wrench on the arm =
and it won=92t release the clutch.  I can use a flashlight and see the =
throw out bearing move back and forth.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>When it 'freezes' the pressure plate inside the =
cover plate=20
(not the cover plate itself which is bolted to the flywheel) still =
moves, but=20
the friction plate remains stuck to either the flywheel or the pressure=20
plate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>You said it&nbsp;was getting harder and harder to =
change, if=20
it were frozen you wouldn't be able to select any gear at a standstill, =
and it=20
would grind horribly in any unsynchronised gear.&nbsp; I've never heard =
of a=20
clutch gradually freezing while still be able to use it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>How much slave piston travel are you getting?&nbsp; =
The MGB=20
for example needs about 1/2".&nbsp; That reduces as you get wear in the =
pedal to=20
master linkage, and causes the biting point to move towards the =
floor.&nbsp; As=20
you say air in the hydraulics causes the same thing.&nbsp; But if the =
pedal=20
pushes the slave push-rod out a reasonable amount, and it goes back in =
when you=20
release the pedal, that shows there is still pressure from the clutch =
springs=20
acting through the release bearing and release arm as normal, which =
implies the=20
clutch itself may be OK.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Does it grind when trying to select an =
unsynchronised=20
gear?&nbsp; If so then it is a clutch problem, but if not then it is a =
gear=20
selection problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PaulH.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=[email-masked] href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Mike =
Duvall via=20
  Mgs</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Jack Wheeler</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 24, 2015 =
3:09=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Mgs] clutch =
question</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I last drove it 4 weeks ago, &nbsp;could it freeze up that fast? =
&nbsp;=20
  If it were frozen, would that account for the not being able to move =
the=20
  clutch cover? &nbsp; I would think so. &nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I was thinking the shaft bushings might be so worn, I=92m not =
getting the=20
  right leverage.&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>On Aug 23, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Jack Wheeler &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:</DIV><BR class=3DApple-interchange-newline>
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    <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39759>If you are sure the =
release bearing=20
    is being pushed into the clutch pressure plate the normal distance =
(i.e.=20
    1/2" or so), your clutch disc could be stuck to the flywheel?&nbsp; =
This=20
    sometimes happens when a car sits for a long time.&nbsp; If this is =
the=20
    problem, you can usually break it loose by putting the car on a flat =
paved=20
    surface, and put it in gear.&nbsp; While holding the clutch pedal =
all the=20
    way down to the floor, and your other foot on the brake pedal, start =
the=20
    car.&nbsp; A variation on this is to start the car in gear, then =
while=20
    cruising along, push the clutch pedal and break pedal both at once, =
as hard=20
    as you can push (for the brake pedal).</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39878>Another technique is to =
hook a=20
    strong chain to a strong point on the frame of the MG, and get a big =
car=20
    (i.e. SUV) to tow it with.&nbsp; Again on a flat paved surface, put =
the car=20
    in gear and hold the clutch pedal all the way down, then start=20
    pulling.&nbsp; This will usually break it loose.&nbsp; Good =
luck.<BR></DIV>
    <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39760><BR></DIV>
    <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39761>Jack Wheeler<BR></DIV>
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    <FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
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    Mike Duvall via Mgs &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;<BR><B><SPAN=
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pulled it=20
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the arm=20
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see the=20
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As I push the pedal in and out there is no resistance and the slave =
moves in and out freely.  (I thought at first I lost hydraulics)=20

It grinds in every gear like the clutch hasn=92t been pushed in.=20

=20

On Aug 24, 2015, at 3:25 AM, PaulHunt73 <[email-masked]> =

> =20
> How much slave piston travel are you getting?  The MGB for example =
needs about 1/2".  That reduces as you get wear in the pedal to master =
> =20
> Does it grind when trying to select an unsynchronised gear?  If so =
then it is a clutch problem, but if not then it is a gear selection =
problem.
> =20
> PaulH.
> =20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Duvall via Mgs
> To: Jack Wheeler
> Cc: [email-masked]
the right leverage.=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;"><div><br></div><div>As I push the pedal in and out =
there is no resistance and the slave moves in and out freely. &nbsp;(I =
thought at first I lost hydraulics)&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>It =
grinds in every gear like the clutch hasn=92t been pushed =
in.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><br><div><di=
v>On Aug 24, 2015, at 3:25 AM, PaulHunt73 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;"><div><font size=3D"2">When it 'freezes' the pressure =
plate inside the cover plate (not the cover plate itself which is bolted =
to the flywheel) still moves, but the friction plate remains stuck to =
either the flywheel or the pressure plate.</font></div><div><font =
size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font size=3D"2">You said it&nbsp;was =
getting harder and harder to change, if it were frozen you wouldn't be =
able to select any gear at a standstill, and it would grind horribly in =
any unsynchronised gear.&nbsp; I've never heard of a clutch gradually =
freezing while still be able to use it.</font></div><div><font =
size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font size=3D"2">How much slave =
piston travel are you getting?&nbsp; The MGB for example needs about =
1/2".&nbsp; That reduces as you get wear in the pedal to master linkage, =
and causes the biting point to move towards the floor.&nbsp; As you say =
air in the hydraulics causes the same thing.&nbsp; But if the pedal =
pushes the slave push-rod out a reasonable amount, and it goes back in =
when you release the pedal, that shows there is still pressure from the =
clutch springs acting through the release bearing and release arm as =
normal, which implies the clutch itself may be =
OK.</font></div><div><font size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font =
size=3D"2">Does it grind when trying to select an unsynchronised =
gear?&nbsp; If so then it is a clutch problem, but if not then it is a =
gear selection problem.</font></div><div><font =
size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font =
size=3D"2">PaulH.</font></div><div><font =
size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><blockquote style=3D"border-left-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: =
0px;"><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial;">----- Original Message -----</div><div style=3D"font-style: =
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; =
line-height: normal; font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, =
228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial =
initial;"><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Mike =
Duvall via Mgs</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; =
font-family: arial;"><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"[email-masked]" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Jack Wheeler</a></div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial;"><b>Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"[email-masked]" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial;"><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, August 24, 2015 =
3:09 AM</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial;"><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Mgs] clutch =
question</div><div><br></div><div>I last drove it 4 weeks ago, =
&nbsp;could it freeze up that fast? &nbsp; If it were frozen, would that =
account for the not being able to move the clutch cover? &nbsp; I would =
think so. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I was thinking the shaft =
bushings might be so worn, I=92m not getting the right =
leverage.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><di=
v><br></div><div>On Aug 23, 2015, at 7:05 PM, Jack Wheeler &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"z-index: auto; position: static; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, =
'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; =
font-size: 16px;"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39759">If you =
are sure the release bearing is being pushed into the clutch pressure =
plate the normal distance (i.e. 1/2" or so), your clutch disc could be =
stuck to the flywheel?&nbsp; This sometimes happens when a car sits for =
a long time.&nbsp; If this is the problem, you can usually break it =
loose by putting the car on a flat paved surface, and put it in =
gear.&nbsp; While holding the clutch pedal all the way down to the =
floor, and your other foot on the brake pedal, start the car.&nbsp; A =
variation on this is to start the car in gear, then while cruising =
along, push the clutch pedal and break pedal both at once, as hard as =
you can push (for the brake pedal).</div><div><br></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39878">Another technique is to hook a =
strong chain to a strong point on the frame of the MG, and get a big car =
(i.e. SUV) to tow it with.&nbsp; Again on a flat paved surface, put the =
car in gear and hold the clutch pedal all the way down, then start =
pulling.&nbsp; This will usually break it loose.&nbsp; Good =
luck.<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39760"><br></div><div=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39761">Jack Wheeler<br></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39328"><span></span></div><br><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39326" style=3D"font-family: =
HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', =
sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39325"=
 style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, =
Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39324"><hr =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39327" size=3D"1"><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">From:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Mike Duvall via Mgs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b><span =
style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Sunday, August 23, 2015 =
5:45 PM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">Subject:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[Mgs] clutch =
question<br></font></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440245068270_39763" =
class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>My MGA keeps getting harder and harder to =
shift.&nbsp; I was wondering if the synchronizers are going bad.&nbsp; =
Lately it seems like the clutch isn=92t disengaging like their was air =
in the lines but the hydraulics were fine.&nbsp; Then no clutch at all =
(sitting at home instead of the road thankfully)&nbsp; The slave =
appeared to be moving adequately so I pulled it off and I have all sorts =
of play in the arm.&nbsp; I put a wrench on the arm and it won=92t =
release the clutch.&nbsp; I can use a flashlight and see the throw out =
bearing move back and forth.<br><br>I=92m assuming I have a bad bearing =
on the arm.&nbsp; Any other ideas or suggestions for me before I pull =
the engine?<span =
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MGA must be different to MGB then.  In that it's only the clutch cover =
springs (that grip the friction plate between pressure plate and =
flywheel and so give drive) that push the release arm back and the =
push-rod and piston into the slave cylinder as you release the pedal.  =
Maybe someone has fitted a pull-off spring to the release arm to protect =
the release bearing, or maybe the MGA has one anyway.

If it has suddenly gone very light, and grinds in all gears, then the =
release bearing or something associated with it has broken, and the =
engine will have to be separated from the gearbox.

PaulH.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Mike Duvall=20
  To: PaulHunt73=20
  Cc: [email-masked]=20
  Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mgs] clutch question

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it's only the=20
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flywheel and so give drive) that push the release arm back and the =
push-rod and=20
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someone has=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Mgs] clutch =
question</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
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  <DIV>As I push the pedal in and out there is no resistance and the =
slave moves=20
  in and out freely. &nbsp;(I thought at first I lost =
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The  release arm simply flops back and forth when the slave cylinder is =
removed.   When I say the slave moves in and out,  I just mean it =
travels without a problem not that it returns on its own.  It does =
return a little but not fully.   I assume the pedal spring causes the =
hydraulics to suck the piston in a little.=20

Thanks all,  I guess  I have a big project ahead and I should examine =
the transmission while I have it out.  =20

Mike

On Aug 24, 2015, at 9:11 AM, PaulHunt73 <[email-masked]> =

> From: Mike Duvall
> To: PaulHunt73
> It grinds in every gear like the clutch hasn=92t been pushed in.=20

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after-white-space;"><div>The &nbsp;release arm simply flops back and =
forth when the slave cylinder is removed. &nbsp; When I say the slave =
moves in and out, &nbsp;I just mean it travels without a problem not =
that it returns on its own. &nbsp;It does return a little but not fully. =
&nbsp; I assume the pedal spring causes the hydraulics to suck the =
piston in a little.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks all, &nbsp;I =
guess &nbsp;I have a big project ahead and I should examine the =
transmission while I have it out. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Mike</div><div><br></div><div><br></=
div><br><div><div>On Aug 24, 2015, at 9:11 AM, PaulHunt73 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;"><div><font size=3D"2">MGA must be different to MGB =
then.&nbsp; In that it's only the clutch cover springs (that grip the =
friction plate between pressure plate and flywheel and so give drive) =
that push the release arm back and the push-rod and piston into the =
slave cylinder as you release the pedal.&nbsp; Maybe someone has fitted =
a pull-off spring to the release arm to protect the release bearing, or =
maybe the MGA has one =
anyway.</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=
<br></div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;"><div><font size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font =
size=3D"2">If it has suddenly gone very light, and grinds in all gears, =
then the release bearing or something associated with it has broken, and =
the engine will have to be separated from the =
gearbox.</font></div><div><font size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><div><font =
size=3D"2">PaulH.</font></div><div><font =
size=3D"2"></font>&nbsp;</div><blockquote style=3D"border-left-color: =
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0px;"><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
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arial;">----- Original Message -----</div><div style=3D"font-style: =
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228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial =
initial;"><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Mike =
Duvall</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
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arial;"><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></div><div =
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font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
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2:41 PM</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial;"><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Mgs] clutch =
question</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>As I push the pedal in =
and out there is no resistance and the slave moves in and out freely. =
&nbsp;(I thought at first I lost =
hydraulics)&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>It grinds in every gear like =
the clutch hasn=92t been pushed =
in.&nbsp;</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>=

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From: Gordie Bird via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:19:15 +0000 (UTC)

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the MGA and MGB clutch assys are nearly identical. Sounds to me like the pr=
oblem is a worn throwout bearing.=20
Unfortunately, replacement requires removal of engine.=20

gb=20
'62 MGA=20

----- Original Message -----

MGA must be different to MGB then. In that it's only the clutch cover sprin=
gs (that grip the friction plate between pressure plate and flywheel and so=
 give drive) that push the release arm back and the push-rod and piston int=
o the slave cylinder as you release the pedal. Maybe someone has fitted a p=
ull-off spring to the release arm to protect the release bearing, or maybe =
the MGA has one anyway.=20
If it has suddenly gone very light, and grinds in all gears, then the relea=
se bearing or something associated with it has broken, and the engine will =
have to be separated from the gearbox.=20
PaulH.=20

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mike Duvall=20
To: PaulHunt73=20
Cc: [email-masked]=20
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:41 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Mgs] clutch question=20

As I push the pedal in and out there is no resistance and the slave moves i=
n and out freely. (I thought at first I lost hydraulics)=20

It grinds in every gear like the clutch hasn=E2=80=99t been pushed in.=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div>the MGA and MGB clutch assys are nearly identical.&nbsp; Sounds to=
 me like the problem is a worn throwout bearing.<br></div><div>Unfortunatel=
y, replacement requires removal of engine.<br></div><div><br></div><div>gb<=
br></div><div>'62 MGA<br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=
=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><br><div><br></div>

<style></style>

<div><span style=3D"font-size: small;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small;"=
 size=3D"2">MGA must be different to MGB then.&nbsp; In that it's only the=
=20
clutch cover springs (that grip the friction plate between pressure plate a=
nd=20
flywheel and so give drive) that push the release arm back and the push-rod=
 and=20
piston into the slave cylinder as you release the pedal.&nbsp; Maybe someon=
e has=20
fitted a pull-off spring to the release arm to protect the release bearing,=
 or=20
maybe the MGA has one anyway.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: small;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small;"=
 size=3D"2"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: small;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small;"=
 size=3D"2">If it has suddenly gone very light, and grinds in all gears,=20
then the release bearing or something associated with it has broken, and th=
e=20
engine will have to be separated from the gearbox.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: small;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small;"=
 size=3D"2"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: small;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small;"=
 size=3D"2">PaulH.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: small;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: small;"=
 size=3D"2"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PAD=
DING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><=
b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">Mike=20
  Duvall</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"paulhunt73@virginm=
edia.com" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Paul=
Hunt73</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]=
" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a> </div>
  <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 24, 2015 2:41=
=20
  PM</div>
  <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] clutch question=
</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>As I push the pedal in and out there is no resistance and the slave =
moves=20
  in and out freely. &nbsp;(I thought at first I lost hydraulics)&nbsp;</di=
v>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>It grinds in every gear like the clutch hasn=E2=80=99t been pushed=
=20
in.&nbsp;</div></blockquote>
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