Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] No Start

From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:04:35 +0000 (UTC)

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Ok, so did some additional diagnostics today......
1) Removed the pipe from carb to canister. No fuel flow. And when engine wa=
s running, no change to idle speed when hose was removed.2) I ended up putt=
ing fresh plugs in anyway, but made no difference.3) I also took off the di=
stributor cap - cap was replaced when car was gone through in August of 201=
3 and seems ok. There was a dusting of a yellowish powder=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 on the inside of the cap, and also in the distributor itself - you c=
an see it in the pictures. Not a lot. Here are pics of the cap and rotor -
http://s24.photobucket.com/user/ddibiase/media/77DBA8FD-3769-4933-8B5C-08B6=
CF649EF8_zps8u8ib84h.jpg.html?sort=3D6&o=3D24
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Car still will start when cold, runs very 'lumpy' and almost dies.
What should be the next steps?
Dan D'76BCentral NJ USA

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Agreed, does sound rich, which would be a cause of a smelly exhaust and not=
 starting hot.=C2=A0Coils can also fail when hot, but the symptom of that w=
ould be no spark.=C2=A0It is now time to start looking at the carb, and fir=
st I'd take the pipe to the canister from the carb and with the ignition on=
 see if you have fuel overflow i.e. faulty float valve or sunk float.=C2=A0=
PaulH.=C2=A0
 ----- Original Message -----  =C2=A0=C2=A0    If they are black, that mean=
 that the car is running too rich. If they get too black, they will not fir=
e properly.
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additional diagnostics today......</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14336155774=
76_41092"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433615577476_41093">1) Removed=
 the pipe from carb to canister. No fuel flow. And when engine was running,=
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1_1433615577476_41126">2) I ended up putting fresh plugs in anyway, but mad=
e no difference.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433615577476_41143">3) I als=
o took off the distributor cap - cap was replaced when car was gone through=
 in August of 2013 and seems ok. There was a dusting of a yellowish powder<=
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nbsp;&nbsp; on the inside of the cap, and also in the distributor itself - =
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0_1_1433615577476_41323" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433=
615577476_41384" dir=3D"ltr">Car still will start when cold, runs very 'lum=
py' and almost dies.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1433615577476_41385" dir=
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