Subject: Re: [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components

From: Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 15:56:53 -0700

This is a multipart message in MIME format.

--===============0357150349650300290==
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014F_01D0A13A.934A0060"
Content-Language: en-us

This is a multipart message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_014F_01D0A13A.934A0060
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Gordie. I thought all deluxes came front and back too, but this =
one is either mis-badged (it has the deluxe script on the boot), been =
modified by somebody, or is a transition car. It just occurred to me =
that I think I read somewhere that you can take a 1600 and make it a =
deluxe with a kit. I think. But it definitely doesn=E2=80=99t have the =
Dunlop front brakes with the square and easily removed pads; they are =
the regular pads and calipers of a 1600.

=20

Clayton

=20

From: Gordie Bird [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:26 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components

=20

what are the rear brakes?  Never heard of a deluxe with anything other =
than dunlop disk brakes all around.  Of course, that does not mean much.

Look up Autosport in Bloomington, Indiana and ask for Tucker (Madawick), =
the owner.  He has a deluxe and could probably answer your question.

Or, if you would like, come to Frankenmuth, MI next week and talk to him =
(and a couple hundred other MGA enthusiasts) at NAMGAR GT 40.

He will have his deluxe with him.

=20

Good luck,

Gordie

'62 MGA

=20

=20

  _____ =20

From: "Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs" <[email-masked] =
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 5:47:28 PM
Subject: [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components

=20

Hi. I have a MGA Mk II deluxe, but either it came with MkII brakes, or =
somebody replaced the Twin Cam/MkII deluxe caliper with a MkII caliper. =
I noticed in the Moss catalog that no replacement is available for the =
MkII deluxe caliper. Is it likely that the deluxe came out with just =
regular MkII calipers to begin with? In looking at my calipers, rotors =
and pads it appears that the front brakes haven=E2=80=99t been working =
in a while: the pads don=E2=80=99t look they have seen any action, the =
rotors are a little rusty with virtually no wear down from the extreme =
outer  section of the rotor, the caliper pistons look encrusted as they =
sit at the caliper, and there are spider webs and light debris that I =
thought would have been burnt off if the pistons were making contact =
upon pressure of the brakes.

=20

If this is true, I doubt that I will be able to break the pistons free =
and will have to order complete new calipers.

=20

Any thoughts??

=20

TIA,

=20

Clayton=20

_______________________________________________

=20

Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
Unsubscribe: =
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/[email-masked]

=20

------=_NextPart_000_014F_01D0A13A.934A0060
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" =
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" =
xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta =
name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><!--[if =
!mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style><![endif]--><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
	{font-family:Helvetica;
	panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:"Cambria Math";
	panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Calibri;
	panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
	{margin:0in;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	font-size:11.0pt;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:#0563C1;
	text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:#954F72;
	text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle17
	{mso-style-type:personal;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
	color:windowtext;}
span.EmailStyle18
	{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
	color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
	{mso-style-type:export-only;
	font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
	{size:8.5in 11.0in;
	margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
	{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
<o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US =
link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thanks Gordie. I thought =
all deluxes came front and back too, but this one is either mis-badged =
(it has the deluxe script on the boot), been modified by somebody, or is =
a transition car. It just occurred to me that I think I read somewhere =
that you can take a 1600 and make it a deluxe with a kit. I think. But =
it definitely doesn=E2=80=99t have the Dunlop front brakes with the =
square and easily removed pads; they are the regular pads and calipers =
of a 1600.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Clayton<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Gordie Bird =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 07, 2015 =
3:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] =
MkII deluxe brake components<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>what are the rear =
brakes?&nbsp; Never heard of a deluxe with anything other than dunlop =
disk brakes all around.&nbsp; Of course, that does not mean =
much.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Look up Autosport =
in Bloomington, Indiana and ask for Tucker (Madawick), the owner.&nbsp; =
He has a deluxe and could probably answer your =
question.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Or, if you would =
like, come to Frankenmuth, MI next week and talk to him (and a couple =
hundred other MGA enthusiasts) at NAMGAR GT =
40.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>He will have his =
deluxe with him.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Good =
luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gordie<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>'62 =
MGA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=3D2 =
width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter id=3Dzwchr></span></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&quot;Clayton =
Kirkwood via Mgs&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To: =
</b><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sent: =
</b>Sunday, June 7, 2015 5:47:28 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Mgs] MkII deluxe =
brake components<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Hi. I =
have a MGA Mk II deluxe, but either it came with MkII brakes, or =
somebody replaced the Twin Cam/MkII deluxe caliper with a MkII caliper. =
I noticed in the Moss catalog that no replacement is available for the =
MkII deluxe caliper. Is it likely that the deluxe came out with just =
regular MkII calipers to begin with? In looking at my calipers, rotors =
and pads it appears that the front brakes haven=E2=80=99t been working =
in a while: the pads don=E2=80=99t look they have seen any action, the =
rotors are a little rusty with virtually no wear down from the extreme =
outer &nbsp;section of the rotor, the caliper pistons look encrusted as =
they sit at the caliper, and there are spider webs and light debris that =
I thought would have been burnt off if the pistons were making contact =
upon pressure of the brakes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>If this is true, I doubt =
that I will be able to break the pistons free and will have to order =
complete new calipers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Any =
thoughts??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>TIA,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Clayton =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><br>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Donate: =
<a =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html<=
/a><br>Suggested annual donation &nbsp;$12.75<br>Archive: <a =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br>F=
orums: <a =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/forums">http://www.team.net/forums</a><br>Uns=
ubscribe: <a =
href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/[email-masked]">=
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/[email-masked]</a><o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>
------=_NextPart_000_014F_01D0A13A.934A0060--

--===============0357150349650300290==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________

[email-masked]
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/[email-masked]

--===============0357150349650300290==--

---

From: Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:40:08 -0700

--===============3338398565058926712==
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0260_01D0A1E8.415EC980"
Content-Language: en-us

------=_NextPart_000_0260_01D0A1E8.415EC980
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Gosh, I feel like Obama: I can say anything as if were  true. But that =
doesn=E2=80=99t make it so. Case in point, I don=E2=80=99t have a deluxe =
badge, nobody modified it, nor is it a transition car. It is strictly a =
MkII. My mistake.

crk

=20

From: Mgs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Clayton =
Kirkwood via Mgs
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:57 PM
To: 'Gordie Bird'
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components

=20

=20

Clayton

=20

=20

=20

Good luck,

Gordie

'62 MGA

=20

=20

  _____ =20

=20

=20

=20

Any thoughts??

=20

TIA,

=20

Clayton=20

=20

=20

------=_NextPart_000_0260_01D0A1E8.415EC980
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" =
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" =
xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta =
name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><!--[if =
!mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style><![endif]--><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
	{font-family:Helvetica;
	panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:"Cambria Math";
	panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Calibri;
	panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
	{margin:0in;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	font-size:11.0pt;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:#0563C1;
	text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:#954F72;
	text-decoration:underline;}
span.EmailStyle17
	{mso-style-type:personal;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
	color:windowtext;}
span.EmailStyle18
	{mso-style-type:personal;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
	color:#1F497D;}
span.EmailStyle19
	{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
	color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
	{mso-style-type:export-only;
	font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
	{size:8.5in 11.0in;
	margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
	{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
<o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US =
link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Gosh, I feel like Obama: =
I can say anything as if were=C2=A0 true. But that doesn=E2=80=99t make =
it so. Case in point, I don=E2=80=99t have a deluxe badge, nobody =
modified it, nor is it a transition car. It is strictly a MkII. My =
mistake.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>crk<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Mgs =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Clayton Kirkwood =
via Mgs<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
'Gordie Bird'<br><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thanks Gordie. I thought all deluxes came front =
and back too, but this one is either mis-badged (it has the deluxe =
script on the boot), been modified by somebody, or is a transition car. =
It just occurred to me that I think I read somewhere that you can take a =
1600 and make it a deluxe with a kit. I think. But it definitely =
doesn=E2=80=99t have the Dunlop front brakes with the square and easily =
removed pads; they are the regular pads and calipers of a =
1600.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Clayton<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Gordie Bird [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>what are the rear =
brakes?&nbsp; Never heard of a deluxe with anything other than dunlop =
disk brakes all around.&nbsp; Of course, that does not mean =
much.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Look up Autosport =
in Bloomington, Indiana and ask for Tucker (Madawick), the owner.&nbsp; =
He has a deluxe and could probably answer your =
question.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Or, if you would =
like, come to Frankenmuth, MI next week and talk to him (and a couple =
hundred other MGA enthusiasts) at NAMGAR GT =
40.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>He will have his =
deluxe with him.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Good =
luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gordie<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>'62 =
MGA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=3D2 =
width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&quot;Clayton =
Kirkwood via Mgs&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To: =
</b><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sent: =
</b>Sunday, June 7, 2015 5:47:28 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Mgs] MkII deluxe =
brake components<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
<a =
------=_NextPart_000_0260_01D0A1E8.415EC980--

--===============3338398565058926712==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============3338398565058926712==--