Subject: [Mgs] Batteries, was:First drive...

From: Rick Lindsay via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 07:09:36 -0500

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From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:54:37 +0000 (UTC)

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Sounds like the Jag V-12 is the anti-MGB in terms of simplicity!
Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA

      From: Rick Lindsay <[email-masked]>
 To: Dan DiBiase <[email-masked]>; "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]=
m>; MG List <[email-masked]>=20
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:09 AM
 Subject: Batteries, was:First drive...
  =20
 Morning Guys,
Similar story here. Turned the key in my E-Type a few days ago and 'click'.=
 Not enough juice to even roll that big V12 over. I pulled the battery out =
and with it on the bench at home, I connected the charger. The current draw=
 swept up to 6 amps so I left it that way over night. 12 hours later the me=
ter read 3 amps charge, and that's typically where it indicates after a ful=
l charge.
I put the battery back in the car and still needed the 'jump box' to start =
the car. First clue discovered. I then drove the car 2 miles, from my old s=
torage facility to my new workshop. Along the way the onboard voltmeter dro=
pped until by the time I coasted in, the gauge read 9 volts, WITH the engin=
e (kinda) running. So clues number 2 and 3. The 3-year-old battery is dead =
meat, and the car's charging system is all-but-dead meat.
I removed the battery and took it to my local indy shop. Thomas reported th=
at he had since dropped the Interstate brand line because of multiple retur=
ns, just like mine. He offered me a replacement AC Delco battery for $50 an=
d I jumped on the deal. First problem solved.
This morning I am going to remove, clean and rebuild the alternator control=
ler. Its a B.U.T.E.C. R2 Regulator. For anyone with electronics skills, its=
 an easy job to rebuild. Two generic NPN transistors and a half dozen resis=
tors and its 'new'. Total cost for parts, maybe $5. Rebuilt units sell for =
$130. So my quest is to make sure the regulator is working correctly before=
 assuming the alternator is worn out.
Removing the alternator requires removing the E-Type's bonnet! With that ho=
nkin' big V12 under there, the alternator is installed backwards. That is, =
=C2=A0the pully faces the engine rather than away from it! That puts it sti=
cking forward AND turning the opposite direction. That means the fan blade =
pitch is reversed. The result is a unique beast that sells for about $1000,=
 rebuilt! Or I can take it to a local shop and have it rebuilt for $40. Giv=
en the results of the controller rebuild, that may be my course of action.
Yes, way more than you wanted. I really just meant to say that my car's bat=
tery also failed after sitting through the winter. Sorry for the long winde=
d, mostly OT post. 10 points awarded to Gryffindor for reading this far.
-rick

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nt-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1429199031519_5331">Sounds like the J=
ag V-12 is the anti-MGB in terms of simplicity!</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1429199031519_5332"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1429199031519_5333"=
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ltr">'76B, '65B</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Central NJ USA<br></div><div id=3D"yu=
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<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Rick Lindsay &lt;rich=
[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</sp=
an></b> Dan DiBiase &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; "[email-masked]" &lt;ccr=
[email-masked]&gt;; MG List &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:09 AM<b=
r> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Batteries, was=
:First drive...<br> </font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1429199031519_53=
40" class=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv3801841603"><div id=3D"yui_=
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1429199031519_5341">Morning Guys,</div><div id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1429199031519_5343"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_142919903=
1519_5344">Similar story here. Turned the key in my E-Type a few days ago a=
nd 'click'. Not enough juice to even roll that big V12 over. I pulled the b=
attery out and with it on the bench at home, I connected the charger. The c=
urrent draw swept up to 6 amps so I left it that way over night. 12 hours l=
ater the meter read 3 amps charge, and that's typically where it indicates =
after a full charge.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1429199031519_5345"><br><=
/div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1429199031519_5346">I put the battery back in =
the car and still needed the 'jump box' to start the car. First clue discov=
ered. I then drove the car 2 miles, from my old storage facility to my new =
workshop. Along the way the onboard voltmeter dropped until by the time I c=
oasted in, the gauge read 9 volts, WITH the engine (kinda) running. So clue=
s number 2 and 3. The 3-year-old battery is dead meat, and the car's chargi=
ng system is all-but-dead meat.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1429199031519_=
5347"><br></div><div>I removed the battery and took it to my local indy sho=
p. Thomas reported that he had since dropped the Interstate brand line beca=
use of multiple returns, just like mine. He offered me a replacement AC Del=
co battery for $50 and I jumped on the deal. First problem solved.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>This morning I am going to remove, clean and rebuild the a=
lternator controller. Its a B.U.T.E.C. R2 Regulator. For anyone with electr=
onics skills, its an easy job to rebuild. Two generic NPN transistors and a=
 half dozen resistors and its 'new'. Total cost for parts, maybe $5. Rebuil=
t units sell for $130. So my quest is to make sure the regulator is working=
 correctly before assuming the alternator is worn out.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Removing the alternator requires removing the E-Type's bonnet! With th=
at honkin' big V12 under there, the alternator is installed backwards. That=
 is, &nbsp;the pully faces the engine rather than away from it! That puts i=
t sticking forward AND turning the opposite direction. That means the fan b=
lade pitch is reversed. The result is a unique beast that sells for about $=
1000, rebuilt! Or I can take it to a local shop and have it rebuilt for $40=
. Given the results of the controller rebuild, that may be my course of act=
ion.</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, way more than you wanted. I really just =
meant to say that my car's battery also failed after sitting through the wi=
nter. Sorry for the long winded, mostly OT post. 10 points awarded to Gryff=
indor for reading this far.</div><div><br></div><div>-rick</div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id=3D"yiv3801841603composer_signatur=
e"></div></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div>  </div></body></html>
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