Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery

From: Richard Antal via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 20:32:56 +0000 (UTC)

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Listers,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of=
 weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various spe=
eds. It vanished two days later.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yesterday a high speed. run o=
f twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the =
overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had =
for at least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leavin=
g a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan =
blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of coo=
ling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the=
 harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspect=
ion of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me:=
 all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the ra=
diator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I=
'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......Rich Antal
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=3D"false">&nbsp; &nbsp; My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple=
 of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various =
speeds. It vanished two days later.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">&nbsp; &nbsp; Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an o=
verheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror=
, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had c=
onfronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular impre=
ssion and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator was r=
ebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no=
 problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the=
 engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside did no=
t support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts were=
 in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evidence =
of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do nex=
t. Thanks for your thoughts......</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fals=
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From: Harold Manifold <[email-masked]>
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Rich,

Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of
cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side
that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling
tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan.
There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may
have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator.

The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has
little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very
high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up.
What was the water temperature gauge saying?

Harold

On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Listers,
>     My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I
> noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It
> vanished two days later.
>     Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating
> radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw
> that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had
> confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular
> impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiato=
r
> was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had
> given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which
> prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the
> underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all
> bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the
> radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiato=
r.
> I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......
> Rich Antal
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich,<div><br></div><div>Your comments &quot;high speed. r=
un of twenty miles&quot; and &quot;extra series of cooling tubes&quot; may =
offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in ot=
her words towards=C2=A0the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduc=
ed the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn&#39;t much cle=
arance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough for t=
he fan to hit the radiator.</div><div><br></div><div>The other issue is wha=
t caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has little to no effect on=
 cooling. Unless the ambient temperature=C2=A0was very high and you were go=
ing up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water t=
emperature gauge saying?</div><div><br></div><div>Harold</div><div><br></di=
v><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AF=
PM Richard Antal via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
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uot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir=3D"ltr">Listers,</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune=
. A couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating a=
t various speeds. It vanished two days later.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating r=
adiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that=
 the Texas cooler fan which I&#39;d had for at least 25 years had confronte=
d the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular impression an=
d abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt t=
wo years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no problem=
s for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the engine =
from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside did not suppor=
t that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in plac=
e. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recur=
rence of the fan nudging the radiator. I&#39;m perplexed what to do next. T=
hanks for your thoughts......</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rich Antal</div></div><=
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From: Bob Spidell via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 18:46:19 -0700

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If the bushes on the rear tie rod are rubber they could /look /OK, but 
actually be pretty soft (I went with urethane bushes years ago). That, 
combined with weak motor mounts could allow the engine to slide forward 
on hard deceleration.

If you watch them while you rev the engine the blades on the fan will 
flex just a bit forward. That, combined with weak bushings and/or mounts 
could cause issue. I presume you mounted the radiator as far forward as 
possible?

Bob

On 10/2/2025 1:32 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys wrote:
> radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I 
> saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had 
> impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That 
> radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling 
> tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the 
> harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. 
> Inspection of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked 
> fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine 
> after filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the 
> fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for 
> your thoughts......
> Rich Antal
>
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    If the bushes on the rear tie rod are rubber they could <i>look </i>OK,
    but actually be pretty soft (I went with urethane bushes years ago).
    That, combined with weak motor mounts could allow the engine to
    slide forward on hard deceleration.<br>
    <br>
    If you watch them while you rev the engine the blades on the fan
    will flex just a bit forward. That, combined with weak bushings
    and/or mounts could cause issue. I presume you mounted the radiator
    as far forward as possible?<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Listers,</div>
        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">    My BJ8 seems beleaguered
          with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I noted the oil
          pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It
          vanished two days later.</div>
        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">    Yesterday a high speed.
          run of twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid
          spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the
          Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had
          confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct
          circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan
          blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra
          series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least
          5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the engine
          from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside
          did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all
          bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after
          filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the
          fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next.
          Thanks for your thoughts......</div>
        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Rich Antal</div>
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From: Richard Antal via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 12:04:28 +0000 (UTC)

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 I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent of cool weath=
er in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped a pi=
ece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back r=
oads with the cardboard in place and the temp gauge never got above 170, an=
d so I didn't watch the temp gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 =
mph. I was unaware of any problem until arriving home, I could smell radiat=
or fluid. When I popped the hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at=
 speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, th=
ey did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn'=
t leak. Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and=
 watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich

    On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael Salter <michae=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are,=
 or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the gril=
le. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of t=
he radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator ag=
ain and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability.
M

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Harold Manifold=
 <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM
To: Richard Antal <[email-masked]>
Cc: Healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery=C2=A0Rich,
Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of coolin=
g tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that push=
es air, in other words towards=C2=A0the radiator. The extra cooling tubes m=
ay have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't=
 much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been eno=
ugh for the fan to hit the radiator.
The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has =
little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature=C2=A0was ver=
y high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up=
. What was the water temperature gauge saying?
Harold

On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via Healeys <healeys@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:

'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......Rich Antal_____=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I inadvertently omitted an i=
mportant detail: with the advent of cool weather in NH, rather than change =
the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped a piece of cardboard in front of =
the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in pl=
ace and the temp gauge never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the temp =
gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any pro=
blem until arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the h=
ood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and below the f=
an blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and thus I inadvertent=
ly caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't leak. Today, having removed=
 the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and watch the temp gauge keenly.=
......rich</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=
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I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, =
or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grill=
e. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of th=
e radiator will swirl around to
 the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish =
its cooling ability.</div>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</font>
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<div>Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of c=
ooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that=
 pushes air, in other words towards&nbsp;the radiator. The extra cooling tu=
bes may have reduced the clearance between
 the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The co=
mbination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator.<=
/div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan=
 has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature&nbsp;wa=
s very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should ke=
ep up. What was the water temperature
 gauge saying?</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Listers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A =
couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at va=
rious speeds. It vanished two days later.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles =
produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. =
To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25=
 years had confronted the engine side of the
 radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of=
 one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an ext=
ra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 mile=
s. I assumed the harness which prevents
 the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside di=
d not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts =
were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evide=
nce of recurrence of the fan nudging
 the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts.....=
.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich Antal</div>
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Except flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden flex fan 
and BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them decades ago, and it was good 
for a 5-10deg reduction at idle but, damn was it loud (and it would blow 
clouds of dust out from under the car when stationary). Ditched it for a 
TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS flex fans are known for throwing a blade.

bs

On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey wrote:
> Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell a nice 
> stainless-steel fan that doesn't flex into your radiator.
>
> Don
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
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> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Richard 
> Antal via Healeys <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM
> *To:* Harold Manifold <[email-masked]>; Michael Salter 
> <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Healeys <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery
> I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent of cool 
> weather in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I 
> slipped a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven 
> 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in place and the temp gauge 
> never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the temp gauge while 
> dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any problem 
> until arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the 
> hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and below 
> the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and thus I 
> inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't leak. 
> Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and 
> On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael Salter 
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that 
> are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to 
> the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the 
> backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass 
> through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling 
> ability.
>
> M
>
>
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> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Harold 
> Manifold <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM
> *To:* Richard Antal <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Healeys <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery
> Rich,
>
> cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the 
> side that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra 
> cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and 
> the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of 
> the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator.
>
> The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan 
> has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was 
> very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should 
> keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying?
>
> Harold
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39 PM Richard Antal via Healeys 
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>     Listers,
>         My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks
>     ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various
>     speeds. It vanished two days later.
>         Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an
>     overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To
>     my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at
>     least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator
>     leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of
>     one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago
>     with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems
>     for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the
>     engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the
>     underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me:
>     all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after
>     filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan
>     nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for
>     your thoughts......
>     Rich Antal
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    Except flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden flex
    fan and BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them decades ago, and it
    was good for a 5-10deg reduction at idle but, damn was it loud (and
    it would blow clouds of dust out from under the car when
    stationary). Ditched it for a TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS flex
    fans are known for throwing a blade. <br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey
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        Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell a nice
        stainless-steel fan that doesn't flex into your radiator. </div>
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      <div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"
          style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> on behalf of Richard
          Antal via Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM<br>
          <b>To:</b> Harold Manifold <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>; Michael
          Salter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</font>
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          <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I inadvertently omitted an
            important detail: with the advent of cool weather in NH,
            rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped
            a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven
            200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in place and the
            temp gauge never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the
            temp gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I
            was unaware of any problem until arriving home, I could
            smell radiator fluid. When I popped the hood all was wet,
            hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and below the fan
            blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and thus I
            inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't
            leak. Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll
            venture forth and watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich</div>
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              <div>On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT,
                Michael Salter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:
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                      I would also suggest that you take a careful look
                      at the baffles that are, or should be, installed
                      forward from the sides of the radiator to the
                      grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted
                      hot air from the backside of the radiator will
                      swirl around to the front and pass through the
                      radiator again and thus seriously deminish its
                      cooling ability.</div>
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                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> on
                          behalf of Harold Manifold
                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br clear="none">
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                          <div>Your comments "high speed. run of twenty
                            miles" and "extra series of cooling tubes"
                            may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away
                            from the side that pushes air, in other
                            words towards the radiator. The extra
                            cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance
                            between the radiator and the fan. There
                            isn't much clearance to begin with. The
                            combination of the two may have been enough
                            for the fan to hit the radiator.</div>
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                          </div>
                          <div>The other issue is what caused the
                            overheating. At high speeds the fan has
                            little to no effect on cooling. Unless the
                            ambient temperature was very high and you
                            were going up a steep hill the colling
                            system should keep up. What was the water
                            temperature gauge saying?</div>
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                          <div>Harold</div>
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                            1:39 PM Richard Antal via Healeys &lt;<a
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                                <div dir="ltr">Listers,</div>
                                <div dir="ltr">    My BJ8 seems
                                  beleaguered with misfortune. A couple
                                  of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure
                                  gauge wildly oscillating at various
                                  speeds. It vanished two days later.</div>
                                <div dir="ltr">    Yesterday a high
                                  speed. run of twenty miles produce an
                                  overheating radiator with fluid
                                  spewing from the overflow tube. To my
                                  horror, I saw that the Texas cooler
                                  fan which I'd had for at least 25
                                  years had confronted the engine side
                                  of the radiator leaving a distinct
                                  circular impression and abrasion to
                                  the tip of one of the fan blades. That
                                  radiator was rebuilt two years ago
                                  with an extra series of cooling tubes
                                  and had given no problems for at least
                                  5000 miles. I assumed the harness
                                  which prevents the engine from sliding
                                  forward was faulty. Inspection of the
                                  underside did not support that
                                  conclusion--it looked fine to me: all
                                  bushings and nuts were in place. I ran
                                  the engine after filling the radiator
                                  and saw no evidence of recurrence of
                                  the fan nudging the radiator. I'm
                                  perplexed what to do next. Thanks for
                                  your thoughts......</div>
                                <div dir="ltr">Rich Antal</div>
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The noise was excessive in my Austin-Healey (can't speak to 
Austin-Healys). The fan all but drowned-out the engine at idle and I 
didn't like sitting in a cloud of dust (but it was the most-effective 
temp-lowering mod I've tried).  Note the fan BCS originally sold was 
different than what I think they sell now; it had massively curved, 
rectangular blades--seven of them--that went from a couple inches of 
pitch to near-flat as speed increased.

I only replace cores once (except when a water pump shaft broke and sent 
a fan into the radiator).

Bob

On 10/5/2025 7:36 AM, Don Anglesey wrote:
> Your worried about a little noise in an Austin Healy?  Keep the cooler 
> and continue to replace radiator cores.  There are several better 
> options.  To each his own.
> Don
>
> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Bob 
> Spidell via Healeys <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2025 11:07:34 PM
> *To:* [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> fan and BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them decades ago, and it was 
> good for a 5-10deg reduction at idle but, damn was it loud (and it 
> would blow clouds of dust out from under the car when stationary). 
> Ditched it for a TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS flex fans are known 
> for throwing a blade.
>
> bs
>
>> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> 
>> *To:* Harold Manifold <[email-masked]> 
>> 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in place and the temp 
>> gauge never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the temp gauge while 
>> hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and 
>> below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and 
>> thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't 
>> leak. Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth 
>> and watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator 
>> to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from 
>> the backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass 
>> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> 
>> The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the 
>> fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient 
>> temperature was very high and you were going up a steep hill the 
>> colling system should keep up. What was the water temperature gauge 
>> saying?
>>
>> Harold
>>
>>
>>

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    The noise was excessive in my Austin-Healey (can't speak to
    Austin-Healys). The fan all but drowned-out the engine at idle and I
    didn't like sitting in a cloud of dust (but it was the
    most-effective temp-lowering mod I've tried).  Note the fan BCS
    originally sold was different than what I think they sell now; it
    had massively curved, rectangular blades--seven of them--that went
    from a couple inches of pitch to near-flat as speed increased. <br>
    <br>
    I only replace cores once (except when a water pump shaft broke and
    sent a fan into the radiator).<br>
    <br>
    Bob <br>
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        cooler and continue to replace radiator cores.  There are
        several better options.  To each his own.</div>
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          Spidell via Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
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      <div>Except flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS
        Hayden flex fan and BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them
        decades ago, and it was good for a 5-10deg reduction at idle
        but, damn was it loud (and it would blow clouds of dust out from
        under the car when stationary). Ditched it for a TC (but kept
        the shroud). Some SS flex fans are known for throwing a blade. <br>
        <br>
        bs<br>
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              <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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                moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
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                href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                moz-do-not-send="true">
                &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
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              <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I inadvertently omitted
                an important detail: with the advent of cool weather in
                NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I
                slipped a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I
                had driven 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in
                place and the temp gauge never got above 170, and so I
                didn't watch the temp gauge while dashing down the
                interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any problem until
                arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I
                popped the hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps
                at speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't flex
                enough but at 80 mph, they did and thus I inadvertently
                caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't leak.
                Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll
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                          I would also suggest that you take a careful
                          look at the baffles that are, or should be,
                          installed forward from the sides of the
                          radiator to the grille. If these baffles
                          aren't correctly fitted hot air from the
                          backside of the radiator will swirl around to
                          the front and pass through the radiator again
                          and thus seriously deminish its cooling
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                              on behalf of Harold Manifold
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                              <div>Your comments "high speed. run of
                                twenty miles" and "extra series of
                                cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan
                                blades flex away from the side that
                                pushes air, in other words towards the
                                radiator. The extra cooling tubes may
                                have reduced the clearance between the
                                radiator and the fan. There isn't much
                                clearance to begin with. The combination
                                of the two may have been enough for the
                                fan to hit the radiator.</div>
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                              <div>The other issue is what caused the
                                overheating. At high speeds the fan has
                                little to no effect on cooling. Unless
                                the ambient temperature was very high
                                and you were going up a steep hill the
                                colling system should keep up. What was
                                the water temperature gauge saying?</div>
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Give me a break "Austin-Healey" must be a concours judge.  The problem with=
 the Texas cooler is it flexes towards the radiator unlike other fans that =
were developed specifically for "Austin-Healey's".  With age they flex more=
.  They have taken out several radiators over the years.  I have no problem=
 with a noisier fan designed to keep the heat down than use that cheap plas=
tic fan.  Like I said to each his own.
Don

From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2025 8:50 AM
To: Don Anglesey <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery

The noise was excessive in my Austin-Healey (can't speak to Austin-Healys).=
 The fan all but drowned-out the engine at idle and I didn't like sitting i=
n a cloud of dust (but it was the most-effective temp-lowering mod I've tri=
ed).  Note the fan BCS originally sold was different than what I think they=
 sell now; it had massively curved, rectangular blades--seven of them--that=
 went from a couple inches of pitch to near-flat as speed increased.

I only replace cores once (except when a water pump shaft broke and sent a =
fan into the radiator).

Bob

On 10/5/2025 7:36 AM, Don Anglesey wrote:
Your worried about a little noise in an Austin Healy?  Keep the cooler and =
continue to replace radiator cores.  There are several better options.  To =
each his own.
Don

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________________________________
.team.net> on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys <[email-masked]><ma=
ilto:[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2025 11:07:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery

Except flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden flex fan an=
d BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them decades ago, and it was good for a=
 5-10deg reduction at idle but, damn was it loud (and it would blow clouds =
of dust out from under the car when stationary). Ditched it for a TC (but k=
ept the shroud). Some SS flex fans are known for throwing a blade.

bs
On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey wrote:
Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell a nice stainless-steel=
 fan that doesn't flex into your radiator.

Don

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.team.net> on behalf of Richard Antal via Healeys <[email-masked]><=
mailto:[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery

I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent of cool weathe=
r in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped a pie=
ce of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back ro=
ads with the cardboard in place and the temp gauge never got above 170, and=
 so I didn't watch the temp gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 m=
ph. I was unaware of any problem until arriving home, I could smell radiato=
r fluid. When I popped the hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at =
speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, the=
y did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't=
 leak. Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and =
watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich

On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael Salter <michael.sa=

I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, =
or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grill=
e. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of th=
e radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator aga=
in and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability.

M

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Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery

Rich,

Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of coolin=
g tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that push=
es air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may ha=
ve reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much=
 clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough f=
or the fan to hit the radiator.

The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has =
little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very hig=
h and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. Wha=
t was the water temperature gauge saying?

Harold

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;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Bob Spidell &lt;bspidell@comca=
st.net&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 5, 2025 8:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Don Anglesey &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]=
<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">The noise was excessi=
ve in my Austin-Healey (can't speak to Austin-Healys). The fan all but drow=
ned-out the engine at idle and I didn't like sitting in a cloud of dust (bu=
t it was the most-effective temp-lowering
 mod I've tried).&nbsp; Note the fan BCS originally sold was different than=
 what I think they sell now; it had massively curved, rectangular blades--s=
even of them--that went from a couple inches of pitch to near-flat as speed=
 increased.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
I only replace cores once (except when a water pump shaft broke and sent a =
fan into the radiator).<br>
<br>
Bob&nbsp;<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 10/5/2025 7:36 AM, Don Anglesey wrote:<o:p></o:p>=
</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Your worried about a little noise in an Austin Healy=
?&nbsp; Keep the cooler and continue to replace radiator cores.&nbsp; There=
 are several better options.&nbsp; To each his own.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Don<o:p></o:p></p>
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</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"ms-outlook-mobile-signature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Get <a href=3D"https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg">Outlook for A=
ndroid</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> Healey=
s
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net&gt;</a> on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a=
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 4, 2025 11:07:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Except flex fans are =
extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden flex fan and BCS's own home-roll=
ed shroud from them decades ago, and it was good for a 5-10deg reduction at=
 idle but, damn was it loud (and it
 would blow clouds of dust out from under the car when stationary). Ditched=
 it for a TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS flex fans are known for throwin=
g a blade.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
bs<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey wrote:<o:p></o:p>=
</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell=
 a nice stainless-steel fan that doesn't flex into your radiator.&nbsp;<o:p=
></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Don<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Get <a href=3D"https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg">Outlook for A=
ndroid</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<hr size=3D"2" width=3D"98%" align=3D"center">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> Healey=
s
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net&gt;</a> on behalf of Richard Antal via Healeys
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a=
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Harold Manifold <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;manifo=
[email-masked]&gt;</a>; Michael Salter
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;healeys@au=
tox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with=
 the advent of cool weather in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180=
 from 160, I slipped a piece of cardboard in front
 of the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard i=
n place and the temp gauge never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the t=
emp gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any=
 problem until arriving home, I
 could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the hood all was wet, hot, and s=
teaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't flex enoug=
h but at 80 mph, they did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the=
 radiator. I doesn't leak. Today,
 having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and watch the tem=
p gauge keenly.......rich<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, =
Michael Salter
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;</a> wrote: <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<div id=3D"x_x_ydp3f8c0b14yiv2668703681">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I would also suggest that you take a careful look at=
 the baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of th=
e radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air =
from the backside of the radiator
 will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator again and thu=
s seriously deminish its cooling ability.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">M<o:p></o:p></p>
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e">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> Healey=
s
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net&gt;</a> on behalf of Harold Manifold
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Antal <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;rantal2=
[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;healeys@au=
tox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Rich,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Your comments &quot;high speed. run of twenty mil=
es&quot; and &quot;extra series of cooling tubes&quot; may offer some clues=
. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in other words
 towards&nbsp;the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the cl=
earance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to beg=
in with. The combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit=
 the radiator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">The other issue is what caused the overheating. A=
t high speeds the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambien=
t temperature&nbsp;was very high and you were going
 up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water temp=
erature gauge saying?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Harold<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
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lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
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lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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"... must be a concours judge"

Nope (I presume that's supposed to be an insult). Just a 
Grammar(spelling) Nazi.

On 10/5/2025 8:01 AM, Don Anglesey wrote:
>
> Give me a break “Austin-Healey” must be a concours judge.  The problem 
> with the Texas cooler is it flexes towards the radiator unlike other 
> fans that were developed specifically for “Austin-Healey’s”.  With age 
> they flex more.  They have taken out several radiators over the 
> years.  I have no problem with a noisier fan designed to keep the heat 
> down than use that cheap plastic fan.  Like I said to each his own.
>
> Don
>
> *From:*Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 5, 2025 8:50 AM
> *To:* Don Anglesey <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
> sent a fan into the radiator).
>
> Bob
>
>     cooler and continue to replace radiator cores.  There are several
>     better options.  To each his own.
>
>     Don
>
>     *From:*Healeys <[email-masked]>
>     Except flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden
>     flex fan and BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them decades ago,
>     and it was good for a 5-10deg reduction at idle but, damn was it
>     loud (and it would blow clouds of dust out from under the car when
>     stationary). Ditched it for a TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS
>     flex fans are known for throwing a blade.
>
>     bs
>
>         *From:*Healeys <[email-masked]>
>         I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent
>         of cool weather in NH, rather than change the thermostat to
>         180 from 160, I slipped a piece of cardboard in front of the
>         radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back roads with the
>         cardboard in place and the temp gauge never got above 170, and
>         so I didn't watch the temp gauge while dashing down the
>         arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the
>         hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph
>         and below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph,
>         they did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the
>         radiator. I doesn't leak. Today, having removed the suspect
>         cardboard, I'll venture forth and watch the temp gauge
>         keenly.......rich
>
>         On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael
>         Salter <[email-masked]>
>
>         I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the
>         baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the
>         sides of the radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't
>         correctly fitted hot air from the backside of the radiator
>         will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator
>         again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability.
>
>         M
>
>         *From:*Healeys <[email-masked]>
>         Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra
>         series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex
>         away from the side that pushes air, in other words towards the
>         radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the
>         clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much
>         clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have
>         been enough for the fan to hit the radiator.
>
>         The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds
>         the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient
>         temperature was very high and you were going up a steep hill
>         the colling system should keep up. What was the water
>         temperature gauge saying?
>
>         Harold
>

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    "... <span style="font-size:11.0pt">must be a concours judge"<br>
      <br>
      Nope (I presume that's supposed to be an insult). Just a
      Grammar(spelling) Nazi.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <img moz-do-not-send="false"
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/5/2025 8:01 AM, Don Anglesey
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Give me a
            break “Austin-Healey” must be a concours judge.  The problem
            with the Texas cooler is it flexes towards the radiator
            unlike other fans that were developed specifically for
            “Austin-Healey’s”.  With age they flex more.  They have
            taken out several radiators over the years.  I have no
            problem with a noisier fan designed to keep the heat down
            than use that cheap plastic fan.  Like I said to each his
            own.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Bob
                Spidell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 5, 2025 8:50 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Don Anglesey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">The noise was
          excessive in my Austin-Healey (can't speak to Austin-Healys).
          The fan all but drowned-out the engine at idle and I didn't
          like sitting in a cloud of dust (but it was the most-effective
          temp-lowering mod I've tried).  Note the fan BCS originally
          sold was different than what I think they sell now; it had
          massively curved, rectangular blades--seven of them--that went
          from a couple inches of pitch to near-flat as speed
          increased. <br>
          <br>
          I only replace cores once (except when a water pump shaft
          broke and sent a fan into the radiator).<br>
          <br>
          Bob <br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 10/5/2025 7:36 AM, Don Anglesey wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
        </div>
        <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Your worried about a little noise in an
              Austin Healy?  Keep the cooler and continue to replace
              radiator cores.  There are several better options.  To
              each his own.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Don<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                Healeys
                <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys
                <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 4, 2025 11:07:34 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>
                <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">
                  &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</span>
              <o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Except
              flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden
              flex fan and BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them
              decades ago, and it was good for a 5-10deg reduction at
              idle but, damn was it loud (and it would blow clouds of
              dust out from under the car when stationary). Ditched it
              for a TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS flex fans are
              known for throwing a blade. <br>
              <br>
              bs<o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Ditch the Texas cooler, British car
                  specialists sell a nice stainless-steel fan that
                  doesn't flex into your radiator. <o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Don<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Get <a
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                    for Android</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                    Healeys
                    <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                    on behalf of Richard Antal via Healeys
                    <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Harold Manifold <a
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>;
                    Michael Salter
                    <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</span>
                  <o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
              </div>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">I
                        inadvertently omitted an important detail: with
                        the advent of cool weather in NH, rather than
                        change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped
                        a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I
                        had driven 200 miles in back roads with the
                        cardboard in place and the temp gauge never got
                        above 170, and so I didn't watch the temp gauge
                        while dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I
                        was unaware of any problem until arriving home,
                        I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the
                        hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at
                        speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't
                        flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and thus I
                        inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator.
                        I doesn't leak. Today, having removed the
                        suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and watch
                        the temp gauge keenly.......rich<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">On
                            Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM
                            EDT, Michael Salter
                            <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                            wrote: <o:p>
                            </o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">I would also suggest
                                that you take a careful look at the
                                baffles that are, or should be,
                                installed forward from the sides of the
                                radiator to the grille. If these baffles
                                aren't correctly fitted hot air from the
                                backside of the radiator will swirl
                                around to the front and pass through the
                                radiator again and thus seriously
                                deminish its cooling ability.<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">M<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                                    Healeys
                                    <a
href="mailto:[email-masked]" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                                    on behalf of Harold Manifold
                                    <a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 2,
                                    2025 6:45:19 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> Richard Antal <a
                                      href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                                    <b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a
href="mailto:[email-masked]" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet
                                    another mystery</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">
                                    <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Rich,
                                      <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Your
                                        comments "high speed. run of
                                        twenty miles" and "extra series
                                        of cooling tubes" may offer some
                                        clues. Fan blades flex away from
                                        the side that pushes air, in
                                        other words towards the
                                        radiator. The extra cooling
                                        tubes may have reduced the
                                        clearance between the radiator
                                        and the fan. There isn't much
                                        clearance to begin with. The
                                        combination of the two may have
                                        been enough for the fan to hit
                                        the radiator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">The
                                        other issue is what caused the
                                        overheating. At high speeds the
                                        fan has little to no effect on
                                        cooling. Unless the ambient
                                        temperature was very high and
                                        you were going up a steep hill
                                        the colling system should keep
                                        up. What was the water
                                        temperature gauge saying?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Harold<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                  </div>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                              </div>
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                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
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Do you have photo of the proper installation?
Thanks

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter <[email-masked]=
om>
wrote:

> I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are=
,
> or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the
> grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backsid=
e
> of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the
> radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability.
>
> M
>
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> high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up=
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Do you have photo of the proper installation?</div><=
div dir=3D"auto">Thanks</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_si=
gnature">Ira Erbs<br>Milwaukie, OR<br>1959 Austin Healey 100-6<br> </div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

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ial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt" dir=3D"auto">
I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, =
or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grill=
e. If these baffles aren&#39;t correctly fitted hot air from the backside o=
f the radiator will swirl around to
 the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish =
its cooling ability.</div>
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ial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt" dir=3D"auto">
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alibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b>=
 Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf o=
f Harold Manifold &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard Antal &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Your comments &quot;high speed. run of twenty miles&quot; and &quot;ex=
tra series of cooling tubes&quot; may offer some clues. Fan blades flex awa=
y from the side that pushes air, in other words towards=C2=A0the radiator. =
The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between
 the radiator and the fan. There isn&#39;t much clearance to begin with. Th=
e combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiat=
or.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan=
 has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature=C2=A0wa=
s very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should ke=
ep up. What was the water temperature
 gauge saying?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Harold</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via H=
ealeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Listers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A =
couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at va=
rious speeds. It vanished two days later.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles =
produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. =
To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I&#39;d had for at leas=
t 25 years had confronted the engine side of the
 radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of=
 one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an ext=
ra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 mile=
s. I assumed the harness which prevents
 the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside di=
d not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts =
were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evide=
nce of recurrence of the fan nudging
 the radiator. I&#39;m perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts.=
.....</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich Antal</div>
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 Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photograph of what exactly?..=
....r
    On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs <eyera3000@gmai=
l.com> wrote: =20
=20
 Do you have photo of the proper installation?Thanks
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpbebad3d4yahoo-style-wrap" style=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Sorry Ira. I don't understan=
d your question. Photograph of what exactly?......r</div><div><br></div>
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817"><div><div><div>Do=
 you have photo of the proper installation?</div><div>Thanks</div><div><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div>Ira Erbs<br clear=3D"none">Milwaukie, OR<br clear=
=3D"none">1959 Austin Healey 100-6<br clear=3D"none"> </div></div><br clear=
=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817gmail_quote ydpbebad3d4yiv8=
546086817gmail_quote_container"><div id=3D"ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817yqt28875=
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"ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM M=
ichael Salter &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydpbebad3d4=
yiv8546086817gmail_quote">

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ans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, =
or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grill=
e. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of th=
e radiator will swirl around to
 the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish =
its cooling ability.</div>
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yFwdMsg"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt;" color=
=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:heal=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys-boun=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Harold Manifold &lt;<a shape=3D"rec=
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[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Richard Antal &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:rantal243@yah=
oo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br c=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich,
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of c=
ooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that=
 pushes air, in other words towards&nbsp;the radiator. The extra cooling tu=
bes may have reduced the clearance between
 the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The co=
mbination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator.<=
/div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan=
 has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature&nbsp;wa=
s very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should ke=
ep up. What was the water temperature
 gauge saying?</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Harold</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via H=
ealeys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Listers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A =
couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at va=
rious speeds. It vanished two days later.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles =
produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. =
To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25=
 years had confronted the engine side of the
 radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of=
 one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an ext=
ra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 mile=
s. I assumed the harness which prevents
 the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside di=
d not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts =
were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evide=
nce of recurrence of the fan nudging
 the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts.....=
.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich Antal</div>
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The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said they might be wrong.
My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric push fan. Metal
fan too

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6

On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

> Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photograph of what
> exactly?......r
>
> On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail=
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s
.
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r.
> I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said=
 they might be wrong. My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Elect=
ric push fan. Metal fan too</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail=3D"gmai=
l_signature">Ira Erbs<br>Milwaukie, OR<br>1959 Austin Healey 100-6<br> </di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Richard Anta=
l &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry Ira. I don&#39;t understand your question. P=
hotograph of what exactly?......r</div><div><br></div>
       =20
        <div id=3D"m_2330410091866299748ydpbebad3d4yahoo_quoted_0748103228"=
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
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                <div>
                    On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"m_2330410091866299748ydpbebad3d4yiv85460868=
17"><div><div><div>Do you have photo of the proper installation?</div><div>=
Thanks</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Ira Erbs<br clear=3D"none">M=
ilwaukie, OR<br clear=3D"none">1959 Austin Healey 100-6<br clear=3D"none"> =
</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div id=3D"m_2330410091866299748ydpbeba=
d3d4yiv8546086817yqt28875"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54=E2=80=
=AFAM Michael Salter &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gm=
ail.com" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michael.salter@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Aptos,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:12pt">
I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, =
or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grill=
e. If these baffles aren&#39;t correctly fitted hot air from the backside o=
f the radiator will swirl around to
 the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish =
its cooling ability.</div>
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ont-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect"=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Haro=
ld Manifold &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D=
"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Richard Antal &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:rantal243@yah=
oo.com" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich,
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Your comments &quot;high speed. run of twenty miles&quot; and &quot;ex=
tra series of cooling tubes&quot; may offer some clues. Fan blades flex awa=
y from the side that pushes air, in other words towards=C2=A0the radiator. =
The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between
 the radiator and the fan. There isn&#39;t much clearance to begin with. Th=
e combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiat=
or.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan=
 has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature=C2=A0wa=
s very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should ke=
ep up. What was the water temperature
 gauge saying?</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Harold</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via H=
ealeys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Listers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A =
couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at va=
rious speeds. It vanished two days later.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles =
produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. =
To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I&#39;d had for at leas=
t 25 years had confronted the engine side of the
 radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of=
 one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an ext=
ra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 mile=
s. I assumed the harness which prevents
 the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside di=
d not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts =
were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evide=
nce of recurrence of the fan nudging
 the radiator. I&#39;m perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts.=
.....</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Rich Antal</div>
</div>
</div>
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From: Richard Antal via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 10:07:10 +0000 (UTC)

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 I must have misspoken. The air deflectors in front of the radiator are exa=
ctly as they should be and have been thus installed for the last 30 years a=
t least. I drove 80 miles yesterday and the temp never got above 170 but th=
en, the weather has changed and it's much cooler than when the radiator ove=
rheated. I'm convinced that in some way, that cardboard piece I had placed =
in front of the radiator was complicit in causing the overheating even thou=
gh I had earlier driven 200 miles with it in place without it overheating..=
......rich
    On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 05:32:49 AM EDT, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail=
.com> wrote: =20
=20
 The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said they might be wrong. =
My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric push fan. Metal fa=
n too
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
=20
On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

[email-masked]

telus.net

[email-masked]

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpf7531bb6yahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px=
;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I must have misspoken. The a=
ir deflectors in front of the radiator are exactly as they should be and ha=
ve been thus installed for the last 30 years at least. I drove 80 miles yes=
terday and the temp never got above 170 but then, the weather has changed a=
nd it's much cooler than when the radiator overheated. I'm convinced that i=
n some way, that cardboard piece I had placed in front of the radiator was =
complicit in causing the overheating even though I had earlier driven 200 m=
iles with it in place without it overheating........rich</div><div><br></di=
v>
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                <div>
                    On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 05:32:49 AM EDT, i erbs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126"><div><div><div>Th=
e proper placement of the air deflectors. You said they might be wrong. My =
car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric push fan. Metal fan t=
oo</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Ira Erbs<br clear=3D"none">Milwa=
ukie, OR<br clear=3D"none">1959 Austin Healey 100-6<br clear=3D"none"> </di=
v></div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126yqt01056" cla=
ss=3D"ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126yqt2589661343"><div class=3D"ydpf7531bb6yiv76=
17269126gmail_quote ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126gmail_quote_container"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 10, 2025,=
 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:rantal=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp=
f7531bb6yiv7617269126gmail_quote"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,=
 Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photo=
graph of what exactly?......r</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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e:13px;">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs=
 &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126m_23304100918662997=
48ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817"><div><div><div>Do you have photo of the proper =
installation?</div><div>Thanks</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Ira =
Erbs<br clear=3D"none">Milwaukie, OR<br clear=3D"none">1959 Austin Healey 1=
00-6<br clear=3D"none"> </div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div id=3D"ydpf=
7531bb6yiv7617269126m_2330410091866299748ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817yqt28875">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter &lt;<a=
 shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">

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, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt;" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Heal=
eys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" re=
l=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on =
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From: i erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 11:38:45 +0100

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Thanks for the clarification

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6

On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 11:07=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

> I must have misspoken. The air deflectors in front of the radiator are
> exactly as they should be and have been thus installed for the last 30
> years at least. I drove 80 miles yesterday and the temp never got above 1=
70
> but then, the weather has changed and it's much cooler than when the
> radiator overheated. I'm convinced that in some way, that cardboard piece=
 I
> had placed in front of the radiator was complicit in causing the
> overheating even though I had earlier driven 200 miles with it in place
> without it overheating........rich
>
> On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 05:32:49 AM EDT, i erbs <
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>
.com>
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s
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r.
> I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Thanks for the clarification=C2=A0</div><div><br></d=
iv><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Ira Erbs<br>Milwaukie, OR<br>195=
9 Austin Healey 100-6<br> </div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_q=
uote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 10, 2025,=
 11:07=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot=
;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I must have misspoken. The air deflectors in front=
 of the radiator are exactly as they should be and have been thus installed=
 for the last 30 years at least. I drove 80 miles yesterday and the temp ne=
ver got above 170 but then, the weather has changed and it&#39;s much coole=
r than when the radiator overheated. I&#39;m convinced that in some way, th=
at cardboard piece I had placed in front of the radiator was complicit in c=
ausing the overheating even though I had earlier driven 200 miles with it i=
n place without it overheating........rich</div><div><br></div>
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               =20
                <div>
                    On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 05:32:49 AM EDT, i erbs =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_-3915761183442993984ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269=
126"><div><div><div>The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said th=
ey might be wrong. My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric=
 push fan. Metal fan too</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Ira Erbs<b=
r clear=3D"none">Milwaukie, OR<br clear=3D"none">1959 Austin Healey 100-6<b=
r clear=3D"none"> </div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"m_-391576118344=
2993984ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126yqt01056"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct =
10, 2025, 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ranta=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:=
13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry Ira. I don&#39;t understand your question. P=
hotograph of what exactly?......r</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
       =20
        <div id=3D"m_-3915761183442993984ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126m_23304100=
91866299748ydpbebad3d4yahoo_quoted_0748103228">
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13px">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs=
 &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_-3915761183442993984ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269=
126m_2330410091866299748ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817"><div><div><div>Do you hav=
e photo of the proper installation?</div><div>Thanks</div><div><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div>Ira Erbs<br clear=3D"none">Milwaukie, OR<br clear=3D"none=
">1959 Austin Healey 100-6<br clear=3D"none"> </div></div><br clear=3D"none=
"><div><div id=3D"m_-3915761183442993984ydpf7531bb6yiv7617269126m_233041009=
1866299748ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817yqt28875"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct 3,=
 2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">mic=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex">

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erif;font-size:12pt">
I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, =
or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grill=
e. If these baffles aren&#39;t correctly fitted hot air from the backside o=
f the radiator will swirl around to
 the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish =
its cooling ability.</div>
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I had my stock radiator changed to a 4-row core. The top and bottom is =
large enough for that. The side rails need to be modified to accept the =
extra width but that is not hard to do. The temperature is 190 to 200 F. =
It will get hotter if stopped for a long period of time.

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John

=E2=80=9962 BT7

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From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of i erbs
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2025 6:33 AM
To: Richard Antal <[email-masked]>
Cc: Healeys <[email-masked]>; Michael Salter =
<[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery

=20

The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said they might be =
wrong. My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric push =
fan. Metal fan too

=20

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6

=20

On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Richard Antal =

Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photograph of what =
exactly?......r

=20

On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs =

=20

=20

Thanks

=20

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6

=20

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter =

I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that =
are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to =
the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the =
backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through =
the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability.

=20

M

=20

=20

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From: Healeys <[email-masked] =
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery=20

=20

Rich,=20

=20

Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of =
cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side =
that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling =
tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. =
There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may =
have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator.

=20

The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan =
has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was =
very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should =
keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying?

=20

Harold

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On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via Healeys =

Listers,

    My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I =
noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It =
vanished two days later.

    Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating =
radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw =
that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had =
confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular =
impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That =
radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes =
and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness =
which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of =
the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all =
bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the =
radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the =
radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......

Rich Antal

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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I had my =
stock radiator changed to a 4-row core. The top and bottom is large =
enough for that. The side rails need to be modified to accept the extra =
width but that is not hard to do. The temperature is 190 to 200 F. It =
will get hotter if stopped for a long period of =
time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>John<o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>=E2=80=9962 =
BT7<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>i =
erbs<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 10, 2025 6:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Richard Antal &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Michael Salter =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Yet =
another mystery<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said =
they might be wrong. My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. =
Electric push fan. Metal fan too<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ira Erbs<br>Milwaukie, OR<br>1959 Austin Healey =
100-6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>AM Richard =
Antal &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Sorry Ira. =
I don't understand your question. Photograph of what =
exactly?......r<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"m_2330410091866299748ydpbebad3d4yahoo_quoted_0748103228"><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On =
Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3D"m_2330410091866299748ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817"><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Do you =
have photo of the proper =
installation?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thanks<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Ira =
Erbs<br>Milwaukie, OR<br>1959 Austin Healey =
100-6<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p><div><div =
id=3D"m_2330410091866299748ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817yqt28875"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On Fri, =
Oct 3, 2025, 2:54=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I would also suggest that you take a careful look at =
the baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of =
the radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot =
air from the backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and =
pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling =
ability.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>M<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
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ms-outlook-mobile-body-separator-line"><div><p =
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id=3D"m_2330410091866299748ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817m_-3554588500126504436=
ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div =
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><hr =
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id=3D"m_2330410091866299748ydpbebad3d4yiv8546086817m_-3554588500126504436=
divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>F=
rom:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of =
Harold Manifold &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, =
October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> Richard Antal &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Yet another mystery</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Rich, =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Your =
comments &quot;high speed. run of twenty miles&quot; and &quot;extra =
series of cooling tubes&quot; may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away =
from the side that pushes air, in other words towards&nbsp;the radiator. =
The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the =
radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The =
combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the =
radiator.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>The other =
issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has little =
to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature&nbsp;was very =
high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep =
up. What was the water temperature gauge =
saying?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Harold<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On Thu, =
Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39=E2=80=AFPM Richard Antal via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Listers,<o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I =
noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It =
vanished two days later.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an =
overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my =
horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 =
years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct =
circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. =
That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling =
tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the =
harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. =
Inspection of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked =
fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after =
filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan =
nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your =
thoughts......<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Rich =
Antal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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