Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Solenoid Repros?

From: warthodson--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 23:18:03 +0000 (UTC)

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 How does one "tweak" the points slightly to make them worm properly?Gary H=
odson
    On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 04:12:02 PM CDT, Simon Lachlan via =
Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:  =20

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Hi,

With reference to the discussion about failing solenoids, for which many th=
anks for the replies, I emailed Dave at ODSpares regarding a conversation w=
e=E2=80=99d had last time I was up there.

He replied:-

=E2=80=9CHi Simon,

The ones to avoid are the ones with a thin reddy brown wire on them. But, s=
aying that, almost all of them need the points tweaking slightly to make th=
em work properly and last longer. Even the batch with Lucas electrically et=
ched onto them (over the Chinese writing) are the same but come in a Lucas =
box).

Not very helpful I know.

best regards=C2=A0=20

Dave Twigger (ODSpares) 24/09/24=E2=80=9D

So that=E2=80=99s indicative of something=E2=80=A6.avoid the =E2=80=9Creddy=
 brown wire=E2=80=9D versions, buy a genuine one and make sure it=E2=80=99s=
 set correctly. Certainly, over here in the UK, there=E2=80=99s very obviou=
s gap in prices between the units on eBay etcetc and the ones from our favo=
urite suppliers. Having said that, Dave did say that one of the latter was =
peddling the ones with =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D etched over Chinese script!

Simon
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<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D=
"background-color: inherit;">Hi,</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D=
"background-color: inherit;">With reference t</font></span><span lang=3D"en=
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ang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" st=
yle=3D"background-color: inherit;">o the discussion about failing solenoids=
, for which many thanks for the replies, I</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb=
"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=
=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=
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n lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></=
span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color: inherit;">d</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D=
"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><spa=
n lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"background-color: =
inherit;"> Dave at ODSpares</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span =
lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></sp=
an><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"background-=
color: inherit;"> regarding a conversation we=E2=80=99d had last time I was=
 up there.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D=
"background-color: inherit;">He replied:-</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D=
"background-color: inherit;">=E2=80=9C</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></=
span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"=
en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color: inherit;">Hi Simon,<=
/font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color: inherit;">The ones to avoid are the ones with a thin reddy brown w=
ire on them. But, saying that, almost all of them need the points tweaking =
slightly to make them work properly and last longer. Even the batch with Lu=
cas electrically etched onto them (over the Chinese writing) are the same b=
ut come in a Lucas box).</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color: inherit;">Not very helpful I know.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color: inherit;">best regards&nbsp; </font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color: inherit;">Dave Twigger (ODSpares) 24/09/24</font></span><span lang=
=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><=
span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color: inherit=
;">=E2=80=9D</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb">=
</span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color: inherit;">So that=E2=80=99s indicative of something</font></span><=
span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"=
></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color=
: inherit;">=E2=80=A6.avoid the =E2=80=9Creddy brown wire=E2=80=9D versions=
, bu</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><=
span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=
=3D"background-color: inherit;">y</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span>=
<span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb=
"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color: inherit;"> a genuine one =
and make sure it=E2=80=99s set c</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><=
span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"=
><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color: inherit;">orrectly. Certai=
nly, over here in the UK, there=E2=80=99s very obvious gap in prices betwee=
n the units on eBay et</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=
=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font fa=
ce=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color: inherit;">cetc and the ones from ou=
r favourite suppliers. Having said that, Dave did say that one of the latte=
r was peddling the ones with =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D e</font></span><span l=
ang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color: inhe=
rit;">tched over Chinese script!</font></span></p>

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d-color: inherit;">Simon</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lan=
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From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 12:43:57 +0100

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Hi,

Not sure if this is a serious query but, so far as I can see from the =
dead one which I=E2=80=99ve just dug out of the bin, there is no way to =
=E2=80=9Ctweak=E2=80=9D the points to make them work or, for that matter =
worm properly.

The two halves of the points setup are held down by tiny rivets(?) so =
there is no lateral adjustment. The points are in the closed position =
and the top, sprung, half is a pretty serious piece of metal=E2=80=A6not =
given to minute adjustments. Perhaps a genuine Lucas solenoid=E2=80=99s =
points are tweakable. Don=E2=80=99t know. This, dead, solenoid does =
indeed have two sets of script on it, one over-writing the other. And, =
on taking the top section off, ie the points, there is slight smell of =
burning detectable from inside once the nylon(?) push rod is removed.

Simon

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From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: 26 September 2024 00:18
To: Healeys <[email-masked]>; Simon Lachlan =
<[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Solenoid Repros?

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How does one "tweak" the points slightly to make them worm properly?

Gary Hodson

=20

=20

=20

Hi,

With reference to the discussion about failing solenoids, for which many =
thanks for the replies, I emailed Dave at ODSpares regarding a =
conversation we=E2=80=99d had last time I was up there.

He replied:-

=E2=80=9CHi Simon,

The ones to avoid are the ones with a thin reddy brown wire on them. =
But, saying that, almost all of them need the points tweaking slightly =
to make them work properly and last longer. Even the batch with Lucas =
electrically etched onto them (over the Chinese writing) are the same =
but come in a Lucas box).

Not very helpful I know.

best regards =20

So that=E2=80=99s indicative of something=E2=80=A6.avoid the =
=E2=80=9Creddy brown wire=E2=80=9D versions, buy a genuine one and make =
sure it=E2=80=99s set correctly. Certainly, over here in the UK, =
there=E2=80=99s very obvious gap in prices between the units on eBay =
etcetc and the ones from our favourite suppliers. Having said that, Dave =
did say that one of the latter was peddling the ones with =
=E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D etched over Chinese script!

Simon

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys =
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Not sure if this is a serious =
query but, so far as I can see from the dead one which I=E2=80=99ve just =
dug out of the bin, there is no way to =E2=80=9Ctweak=E2=80=9D the =
points to make them work or, for that matter worm =
properly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The two halves of the points =
setup are held down by tiny rivets(?) so there is no lateral adjustment. =
The points are in the closed position and the top, sprung, half is a =
pretty serious piece of metal=E2=80=A6not given to minute adjustments. =
Perhaps a genuine Lucas solenoid=E2=80=99s points are tweakable. =
Don=E2=80=99t know. This, dead, solenoid does indeed have two sets of =
script on it, one over-writing the other. And, on taking the top section =
off, ie the points, there is slight smell of burning detectable from =
inside once the nylon(?) push rod is removed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div=
><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
[email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 26 =
September 2024 00:18<br><b>To:</b> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Simon Lachlan =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Overdrive Solenoid Repros?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>How does =
one &quot;tweak&quot; the points slightly to make them worm =
properly?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Gary =
Hodson<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp7fb98f26yahoo_quoted_8231625009"><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 04:12:02 PM CDT, Simon Lachlan =
via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydp7fb98f26yiv8215023790><div><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#26282A'>Hi,</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#26282A'>With reference to the discussion about =
failing solenoids, for which many thanks for the replies, I</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#26282A'>emailed Dave at ODSpares regarding a =
conversation we=E2=80=99d had last time I was up there.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#26282A'>He replied:-</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#26282A'>=E2=80=9C</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>H=
i Simon,</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>T=
he ones to avoid are the ones with a thin reddy brown wire on them. But, =
saying that, almost all of them need the points tweaking slightly to =
make them work properly and last longer. Even the batch with Lucas =
electrically etched onto them (over the Chinese writing) are the same =
but come in a Lucas box).</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>N=
ot very helpful I know.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
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est regards&nbsp; </span><span =
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 Correction: make that "work correctly".Gary Hodson
    On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 06:43:31 PM CDT, warthodson--- via =
Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:  =20

  How does one "tweak" the points slightly to make them worm properly?Gary =
Hodson
    On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 04:12:02 PM CDT, Simon Lachlan via =
Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:  =20

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Hi,

He replied:-

=E2=80=9CHi Simon,

Not very helpful I know.

best regards=C2=A0=20

Simon

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Correction: make that "work =
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">How does one "tweak" the points slightly to make t=
hem worm properly?</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Hodson</div><div><br clear=3D=
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<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D=
"background-color:inherit;">Hi,</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D=
"background-color:inherit;">With reference t</font></span><span lang=3D"en-=
gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span la=
ng=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" sty=
le=3D"background-color:inherit;">o the discussion about failing solenoids, =
for which many thanks for the replies, I</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb">=
</span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=
=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=
=3D"background-color:inherit;"></font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><s=
pan lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb">=
</span><span lang=3D"en-gb"> <font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"backgr=
ound-color:inherit;">emaile</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span =
lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></sp=
an><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"background-=
color:inherit;">d</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en=
-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span l=
ang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"background-color:inhe=
rit;"> Dave at ODSpares</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=
=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><=
span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"background-colo=
r:inherit;"> regarding a conversation we=E2=80=99d had last time I was up t=
here.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D=
"background-color:inherit;">He replied:-</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D=
"background-color:inherit;">=E2=80=9C</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></s=
pan><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"e=
n-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color:inherit;">Hi Simon,</f=
ont></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color:inherit;">The ones to avoid are the ones with a thin reddy brown wi=
re on them. But, saying that, almost all of them need the points tweaking s=
lightly to make them work properly and last longer. Even the batch with Luc=
as electrically etched onto them (over the Chinese writing) are the same bu=
t come in a Lucas box).</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color:inherit;">Not very helpful I know.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color:inherit;">best regards&nbsp; </font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color:inherit;">Dave Twigger (ODSpares) 24/09/24</font></span><span lang=
=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><=
span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color:inherit;=
">=E2=80=9D</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><=
/span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color:inherit;">So that=E2=80=99s indicative of something</font></span><s=
pan lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb">=
</span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color:=
inherit;">=E2=80=A6.avoid the =E2=80=9Creddy brown wire=E2=80=9D versions, =
bu</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><sp=
an lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D=
"background-color:inherit;">y</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><spa=
n lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><f=
ont face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color:inherit;"> a genuine one and m=
ake sure it=E2=80=99s set c</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span =
lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><fon=
t face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color:inherit;">orrectly. Certainly, o=
ver here in the UK, there=E2=80=99s very obvious gap in prices between the =
units on eBay et</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-=
gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"A=
rial" style=3D"background-color:inherit;">cetc and the ones from our favour=
ite suppliers. Having said that, Dave did say that one of the latter was pe=
ddling the ones with =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D e</font></span><span lang=3D"e=
n-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span =
lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"background-color:inherit;">tch=
ed over Chinese script!</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-gb"><font face=3D"Arial" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color:inherit;">Simon</font></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=
=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><span lang=3D"en-gb"></span><=
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