Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine lift

From: Bruce Steele via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 13:04:49 -0700

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Plus you can raise or lower the car a bit as you finagle the =
hoist/engine leveler as you wiggle the engine in.

=20

Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Al =
Fuller
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 10:56 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine lift

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I agree =E2=80=93 you need to get the car up off the ground a little!  =
After all my work building up my car from a basket case of parts and a =
new frame =E2=80=93 we scratched the underside of the frame on both =
sides sliding the engine hoist under it=E2=80=A6 =E2=98=B9

=20

FWIW, having the car up a little also makes it a little easier to have =
clearance for the tail of the trans mission to go down before rotating =
upwards to its level position.

=20

Al Fuller

Fuller Compliance, Inc.

Quality Systems, Software Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11

=20

From: Healeys <[email-masked] =
Healeys
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine lift

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Should have added the reason for raising the car a few inches is so you =
can slide the cherry picker in and out.  Mine just clears the inside =
track of the tires.

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Rick

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On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:02 PM HealeyRick <[email-masked] =

A few more tips. Your cherry picker is going to have to raise to a =
pretty high angle to clear everything, so make sure your ceiling and =
garage door give you enough room before you have the engine and trans =
hanging over the shroud.

=20

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I've done it as a one-man job but it's easier if you have a second to =
guide the transmission and make sure it doesn't scratch anything.  It =
helps to raise the front of the car a few inches. Pad the front of the =
shroud well to prevent scratches. An engine leveler helps. Make sure all =
your chains will take the weight, a friend had one snap right as =
everything was hanging over the front of the shroud, not pretty. Remove =
the gear shift lever. Observe how time slows down as you hold your =
breath when the lump is hanging over the shroud. Have plenty of drinks =
on hand to celebrate when disaster was avoided.

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Good luck,

Rick Neville=20

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On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 10:39 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked] =

With the 6-cyl cars, try not to bash the throttle cross shaft in the top =
of the transmission tunnel. If bent, it will affect gas pedal feel and, =
while the engine's out I recommend installing the teflon bushes on the =
shaft. If they've never been replaced they are almost certainly toast.

On 7/27/2022 10:56 AM, HealeyRick wrote:

Having done this a few times, I'd install the engine and trans together. =
 Getting the trans lined up requires a lot of rotational twisting of a =
heavy trans.  No thanks.=20

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On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 12:58 PM Bruce Steele via Healeys =

Having pulled and installed the engine and trans as a unit twice and the =
trans once, I=E2=80=99m of the opinion that installing the engine =
without the trans is probably easier as far as the engine itself goes.  =
The clearances between the top of the bellhousing and the firewall and =
the crank pulley and front cross member are small, requiring a lot of =
finesse and small adjustments to wiggle the unit in place.  Plus someone =
with a strong back and a belt under the tail of the trans/OD is needed =
to lift it up over the X brace.  However if done separately, =
you=E2=80=99d have to get the fore-aft vertical alignment right and then =
support the aft end of the engine while you align the input shaft to the =
pilot bearing and bolt the bellhousing to the engine.  That  was no =
piece of cake for me when I had the trans out with the engine in place.  =
On balance, I=E2=80=99d rather connect the engine and trans out of the =
car and install them as a unit.  But that=E2=80=99s just me.

=20

Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Plus =
you can raise or lower the car a bit as you finagle the hoist/engine =
leveler as you wiggle the engine in.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>1960 =
BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Al =
Fuller<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 28, 2022 10:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Engine =
lift<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I agree =
=E2=80=93 you need to get the car up off the ground a little!&nbsp; =
After all my work building up my car from a basket case of parts and a =
new frame =E2=80=93 we scratched the underside of the frame on both =
sides sliding the engine hoist under it=E2=80=A6 <span =
style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif'>=E2=98=B9</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>FWIW, having =
the car up a little also makes it a little easier to have clearance for =
the tail of the trans mission to go down before rotating upwards to its =
level position.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><u>Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></u></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Fuller Compliance, =
Inc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Quality Systems, Software =
Quality, Validation + 21 CFR Part 11<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>HealeyRick via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Thursday, July 28, 2022 12:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>C=
c:</b> Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Engine lift<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Should =
have added the reason for raising the car a few inches is so you can =
slide the cherry picker in and out.&nbsp; Mine just clears the inside =
track of the tires.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rick<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div =
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Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:02 PM HealeyRick &lt;<a =
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.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>A few more tips. Your cherry picker is =
going to have to raise to a pretty high angle to clear everything, so =
make sure your ceiling and garage door give you enough room before you =
have the engine and trans hanging over the shroud.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><img =
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src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I've done it as a one-man job but it's easier if you =
have a second to guide the transmission and make sure it doesn't scratch =
anything.&nbsp; It helps to raise the front of the car a few inches. Pad =
the front of the shroud well to prevent scratches. An engine leveler =
helps. Make sure all your chains will take the weight, a friend had one =
snap right as everything was hanging over the front of the shroud, not =
pretty. Remove the gear shift lever. Observe how time slows down as you =
hold your breath when the lump is hanging over the shroud. Have plenty =
of drinks on hand to celebrate when disaster was =
avoided.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Good luck,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rick Neville&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></div><div =
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Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 10:39 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
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.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>With the =
6-cyl cars, try not to bash the throttle cross shaft in the top of the =
transmission tunnel. If bent, it will affect gas pedal feel and, while =
the engine's out I recommend installing the teflon bushes on the shaft. =
If they've never been replaced they are almost certainly =
toast.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 7/27/2022 10:56 AM, =
HealeyRick wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Having done this a few times, I'd install the engine =
and trans together.&nbsp; Getting the trans lined up requires a lot of =
rotational twisting of a heavy trans.&nbsp; No thanks. =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rick Neville<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div =
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Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 12:58 PM Bruce Steele via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
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.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Having =
pulled and installed the engine and trans as a unit twice and the trans =
once, I=E2=80=99m of the opinion that installing the engine without the =
trans is probably easier as far as the engine itself goes.&nbsp; The =
clearances between the top of the bellhousing and the firewall and the =
crank pulley and front cross member are small, requiring a lot of =
finesse and small adjustments to wiggle the unit in place.&nbsp; Plus =
someone with a strong back and a belt under the tail of the trans/OD is =
needed to lift it up over the X brace.&nbsp; However if done separately, =
you=E2=80=99d have to get the fore-aft vertical alignment right and then =
support the aft end of the engine while you align the input shaft to the =
pilot bearing and bolt the bellhousing to the engine.&nbsp; That =
&nbsp;was no piece of cake for me when I had the trans out with the =
engine in place.&nbsp; On balance, I=E2=80=99d rather connect the engine =
and trans out of the car and install them as a unit.&nbsp; But =
that=E2=80=99s just me.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bruce =
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