Subject: Re: [Healeys] [O/T] Beverly Hills Car Club

From: Richard Collins via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2022 18:39:00 +0000

A shock I tell you, just a shock

Regards,
Richard C

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From: Ray Juncal via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 00:12:25 +0000 (UTC)

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 Funny thing, there was just an article in the front section of the Sunday =
L. A. Times news paper today. It was kinder than the Jalopnick piece but sa=
id be careful.=20

I did a survey there for an Australian buyer a few years ago. They were ver=
y accommodating and put the car on a lift and I got a thorough look. The te=
st ride was brief as the brakes were marginal and the engine was very rough=
. I did get through all the gears and a listen to the rear end. It was not =
a drive it home car. The car was destined for a complete restoration so mat=
ching numbers and frame and body condition were more important.. I didn't k=
now the price he was quoted but I thought the buyer would get more for his =
money through one of the clubs. After the survey the buyer made the deal an=
d BHCC arranged the shipping. I think he knew what he was getting and got w=
hat he expected.
NOTE: "Never buy a pig in a poke." You or a trusted advisor should take a h=
ard look at a car before you make the deal. BHCC is just like the want adds=
 or a used car lot sometimes good sometimes not. It's up to you to make sur=
e what you are getting or no bitching later.
That's my.....

http://enewspaper.latimes.com/infinity/article_share.aspx?guid=3Dc16e98ca-6=
41a-4324-8c9e-073cb3f400dc

   =C2=A0On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 01:03:07 PM PDT, Richard Collins via =
Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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 A shock I tell you, just a shock

Regards,
Richard C

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=3D"false">I did a survey there for an Australian buyer a few years ago. Th=
ey were very accommodating and put the car on a lift and I got a thorough l=
ook. The test ride was brief as the brakes were marginal and the engine was=
 very rough. I did get through all the gears and a listen to the rear end. =
It was not a drive it home car. The car was destined for a complete restora=
tion so matching numbers and frame and body condition were more important..=
 I didn't know the price he was quoted but I thought the buyer would get mo=
re for his money through one of the clubs. After the survey the buyer made =
the deal and BHCC arranged the shipping. I think he knew what he was gettin=
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From: Ray Juncal via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 00:15:17 +0000 (UTC)

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 Forgot...cut and paste the address below the two cents to see the article =
in the Times. It wouldn't let me add a link.

    On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 05:12:26 PM PDT, Ray Juncal <healeyray@yah=
oo.com> wrote: =20
=20
  Funny thing, there was just an article in the front section of the Sunday=
 L. A. Times news paper today. It was kinder than the Jalopnick piece but s=
aid be careful.=20

Regards,
Richard C

-car-paradis-1849377356
ive/healeys
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Forgot...cut and paste the a=
ddress below the two cents to see the article in the Times. It wouldn't let=
 me add a link.<br></div><div><br></div>
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                    On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 05:12:26 PM PDT, Ray Junca=
l &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div class=3D"ydpc1f90777yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Funny thing, there was just =
an article in the front section of the Sunday L. A. Times news paper today.=
 It was kinder than the Jalopnick piece but said be careful. <br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false">I did a survey there for an Australian buyer a few years ago. Th=
ey were very accommodating and put the car on a lift and I got a thorough l=
ook. The test ride was brief as the brakes were marginal and the engine was=
 very rough. I did get through all the gears and a listen to the rear end. =
It was not a drive it home car. The car was destined for a complete restora=
tion so matching numbers and frame and body condition were more important..=
 I didn't know the price he was quoted but I thought the buyer would get mo=
re for his money through one of the clubs. After the survey the buyer made =
the deal and BHCC arranged the shipping. I think he knew what he was gettin=
g and got what he expected.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br=
oke." You or a trusted advisor should take a hard look at a car before you =
make the deal. BHCC is just like the want adds or a used car lot sometimes =
good sometimes not. It's up to you to make sure what you are getting or no =
bitching later.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div =
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Austin-Healeys are not mentioned in the story, but there is one =
particular one involved.

In 2006, a previous owner of HBJ8L/40136 sent me an inquiry into whether =
I had any record of the car.  I did not.  He said it had been stolen =
from him in 1970 and never recovered and he was searching for it.   I =
put the car into the BJ8 Registry with the note about its history and =
the contact info for the victim.  In 2012, I saw it come up for sale on =
BHCC and notified him. =20

I requested that in his efforts to recover the car from BHCC that he not =
mention the BJ8 Registry or my name.  BHCC had been very accommodating =
to me with info about BJ8s they were offering up to that point, and I =
did not want them to quit advertising the VINs of the BJ8s they had for =
sale. =20

He was successful in recovering the car, and BHCC did exactly what I =
feared they would do:  quit advertising the VINs.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC   USA

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Ray =
Juncal via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 8:12 PM
To: Bob Spidell; Richard Collins
Cc: Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] [O/T] Beverly Hills Car Club

=20

Funny thing, there was just an article in the front section of the =
Sunday L. A. Times news paper today. It was kinder than the Jalopnick =
piece but said be careful.=20

=20

I did a survey there for an Australian buyer a few years ago. They were =
very accommodating and put the car on a lift and I got a thorough look. =
The test ride was brief as the brakes were marginal and the engine was =
very rough. I did get through all the gears and a listen to the rear =
end. It was not a drive it home car. The car was destined for a complete =
restoration so matching numbers and frame and body condition were more =
important.. I didn't know the price he was quoted but I thought the =
buyer would get more for his money through one of the clubs. After the =
survey the buyer made the deal and BHCC arranged the shipping. I think =
he knew what he was getting and got what he expected.

=20

NOTE: "Never buy a pig in a poke." You or a trusted advisor should take =
a hard look at a car before you make the deal. BHCC is just like the =
want adds or a used car lot sometimes good sometimes not. It's up to you =
to make sure what you are getting or no bitching later.

=20

That's my.....

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=20

=20

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Austin-Healeys are not mentioned in the story, but there =
is one
particular one involved.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In 2006, a previous owner of HBJ8L/40136 sent me an =
inquiry into
whether I had any record of the car.=C2=A0 I did not.=C2=A0 He said it =
had been stolen
from him in 1970 and never recovered and he was searching for =
it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I put the
car into the BJ8 Registry with the note about its history and the =
contact info
for the victim.=C2=A0 In 2012, I saw it come up for sale on BHCC and =
notified him.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I requested that in his efforts to recover the car from =
BHCC
that he not mention the BJ8 Registry or my name.=C2=A0 BHCC had been =
very
accommodating to me with info about BJ8s they were offering up to that =
point,
and I did not want them to quit advertising the VINs of the BJ8s they =
had for
sale.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>He was successful in recovering the car, and BHCC did =
exactly
what I feared they would do:=C2=A0 quit advertising the =
VINs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Steve Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Havelock, NC=C2=A0=C2=A0 USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ray Juncal =
via
Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 7, 2022 8:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Spidell; Richard Collins<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] [O/T] Beverly Hills Car =
Club<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Funny
thing, there was just an article in the front section of the Sunday L. =
A. Times
news paper today. It was kinder than the Jalopnick piece but said be =
careful. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></=
p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I did a
survey there for an Australian buyer a few years ago. They were very
accommodating and put the car on a lift and I got a thorough look. The =
test ride
was brief as the brakes were marginal and the engine was very rough. I =
did get
through all the gears and a listen to the rear end. It was not a drive =
it home
car. The car was destined for a complete restoration so matching numbers =
and
frame and body condition were more important.. I didn't know the price =
he was
quoted but I thought the buyer would get more for his money through one =
of the
clubs. After the survey the buyer made the deal and BHCC arranged the =
shipping.
I think he knew what he was getting and got what he =
expected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>NOTE:
&quot;Never buy a pig in a poke.&quot; You or a trusted advisor should =
take a
hard look at a car before you make the deal. BHCC is just like the want =
adds or
a used car lot sometimes good sometimes not. It's up to you to make sure =
what
you are getting or no bitching later.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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my.....<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:black'>http://enewspaper.latimes.com/infinity/article_share.aspx?gu=
id=3Dc16e98ca-641a-4324-8c9e-073cb3f400dc</span><span
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#26282A'>&nbsp;On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 01:03:07 PM PDT, =
Richard
Collins via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: =
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<br>
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Richard C<br>
<br>
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Lolz
My reaction as well

On Sun, Aug 7, 2022, 1:06 PM Richard Collins via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

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<div dir=3D"auto">Lolz<div dir=3D"auto">My reaction as well</div></div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Au=
g 7, 2022, 1:06 PM Richard Collins via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex">A shock I tell you, just a shock<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Richard C<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On Aug 7, 2022, at 10:30, Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@c=
omcast.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&g=
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"... BHCC did exactly what I feared they would do:  quit advertising the 
VINs ..."

Doesn't speak well for the company. It also means buyers of used cars 
would do well to get the VIN for a car before laying down the cash. I 
don't know if LE reports the VIN of stolen cars to the DMV, but it seems 
like an easy way to cut down on car theft. But, from what I hear, 
'desirable' cars--Camrys, Priuses, etc.--are headed to a chop shop 
before the owner even knows it's gone. Exotics are on a boat to Russia.

CA used to provide the ownership records of cars for a small fee ($5 
IIRC). My dad always kicked himself in the butt for not springing $5 for 
the provenance of his '65 Mustang, which was bought new by Alice 
Faye--old time singer/movie star; sold to 'Mrs. Phil Harris' (he did 
have the sales receipt)--before the DMV quit providing the service. 
These days, you can get at least some of a car's history from CarFax or 
similar.

On 8/8/2022 4:30 AM, BJ8Healeys via Healeys wrote:
>
> Austin-Healeys are not mentioned in the story, but there is one 
> particular one involved.
>
> In 2006, a previous owner of HBJ8L/40136 sent me an inquiry into 
> whether I had any record of the car.  I did not.  He said it had been 
> stolen from him in 1970 and never recovered and he was searching for 
> it.   I put the car into the BJ8 Registry with the note about its 
> history and the contact info for the victim.  In 2012, I saw it come 
> up for sale on BHCC and notified him.
>
> I requested that in his efforts to recover the car from BHCC that he 
> not mention the BJ8 Registry or my name.  BHCC had been very 
> accommodating to me with info about BJ8s they were offering up to that 
> point, and I did not want them to quit advertising the VINs of the 
> BJ8s they had for sale.
>
> He was successful in recovering the car, and BHCC did exactly what I 
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of 
> *Ray Juncal via Healeys
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 7, 2022 8:12 PM
> *To:* Bob Spidell; Richard Collins
> *Cc:* Healeys
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] [O/T] Beverly Hills Car Club
>
> Funny thing, there was just an article in the front section of the 
> Sunday L. A. Times news paper today. It was kinder than the Jalopnick 
> piece but said be careful.
>
> I did a survey there for an Australian buyer a few years ago. They 
> were very accommodating and put the car on a lift and I got a thorough 
> look. The test ride was brief as the brakes were marginal and the 
> engine was very rough. I did get through all the gears and a listen to 
> the rear end. It was not a drive it home car. The car was destined for 
> a complete restoration so matching numbers and frame and body 
> condition were more important.. I didn't know the price he was quoted 
> but I thought the buyer would get more for his money through one of 
> the clubs. After the survey the buyer made the deal and BHCC arranged 
> the shipping. I think he knew what he was getting and got what he 
> expected.
>
> NOTE: "Never buy a pig in a poke." You or a trusted advisor should 
> take a hard look at a car before you make the deal. BHCC is just like 
> the want adds or a used car lot sometimes good sometimes not. It's up 
> to you to make sure what you are getting or no bitching later.
>
> That's my.....
>
> Inline image
>
> http://enewspaper.latimes.com/infinity/article_share.aspx?guid=c16e98ca-641a-4324-8c9e-073cb3f400dc
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>
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    "... <span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">BHCC
      did exactly
      what I feared they would do:  quit advertising the VINs ..."<br>
      <br>
      Doesn't speak well for the company. It also means buyers of used
      cars would do well to get the VIN for a car before laying down the
      cash. I don't know if LE reports the VIN of stolen cars to the
      DMV, but it seems like an easy way to cut down on car theft. But,
      from what I hear, 'desirable' cars--Camrys, Priuses, etc.--are
      headed to a chop shop before the owner even knows it's gone.
      Exotics are on a boat to Russia.<br>
      <br>
      CA used to provide the ownership records of cars for a small fee
      ($5 IIRC). My dad always kicked himself in the butt for not
      springing $5 for the provenance of his '65 Mustang, which was
      bought new by Alice Faye--old time singer/movie star; sold to
      'Mrs. Phil Harris' (he did have the sales receipt)--before the DMV
      quit providing the service. These days, you can get at least some
      of a car's history from CarFax or similar.<br>
      <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/8/2022 4:30 AM, BJ8Healeys via
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Austin-Healeys
            are not mentioned in the story, but there is one
            particular one involved.<br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">In
            2006, a previous owner of HBJ8L/40136 sent me an inquiry
            into
            whether I had any record of the car.  I did not.  He said it
            had been stolen
            from him in 1970 and never recovered and he was searching
            for it.   I put the
            car into the BJ8 Registry with the note about its history
            and the contact info
            for the victim.  In 2012, I saw it come up for sale on BHCC
            and notified him.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I
            requested that in his efforts to recover the car from BHCC
            that he not mention the BJ8 Registry or my name.  BHCC had
            been very
            accommodating to me with info about BJ8s they were offering
            up to that point,
            and I did not want them to quit advertising the VINs of the
            BJ8s they had for
            sale.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">He
            was successful in recovering the car, and BHCC did exactly
            what I feared they would do:  quit advertising the VINs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Steve
            Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">BJ8
            Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">AHCA
            Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Havelock,
            NC   USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"
            moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
        <div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                Healeys
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Ray Juncal via
                Healeys<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 7, 2022 8:12 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Bob Spidell; Richard Collins<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Healeys<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] [O/T] Beverly Hills Car
                Club<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Funny
                thing, there was just an article in the front section of
                the Sunday L. A. Times
                news paper today. It was kinder than the Jalopnick piece
                but said be careful. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I
                did a
                survey there for an Australian buyer a few years ago.
                They were very
                accommodating and put the car on a lift and I got a
                thorough look. The test ride
                was brief as the brakes were marginal and the engine was
                very rough. I did get
                through all the gears and a listen to the rear end. It
                was not a drive it home
                car. The car was destined for a complete restoration so
                matching numbers and
                frame and body condition were more important.. I didn't
                know the price he was
                quoted but I thought the buyer would get more for his
                money through one of the
                clubs. After the survey the buyer made the deal and BHCC
                arranged the shipping.
                I think he knew what he was getting and got what he
                expected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">NOTE:
                "Never buy a pig in a poke." You or a trusted advisor
                should take a
                hard look at a car before you make the deal. BHCC is
                just like the want adds or
                a used car lot sometimes good sometimes not. It's up to
                you to make sure what
                you are getting or no bitching later.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">That's
                my.....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I don=E2=80=99t know about the other model registries, but the BJ8 =
Registry has always tried to document what could be known about the =
continuous ownership history of a car.  It was easier to do that in the =
days before =E2=80=9Cprivacy=E2=80=9D became such an obsession and =
existing sources for lists of cars and owners dried up.  I was able to =
obtain such lists from Healey clubs around the world 20 years ago, but =
most no longer even publish them.  Also obtained historical DMV lists =
from various sources in various states.  Cars sold through dealers lose =
a lot of that knowledge because dealers are reluctant to reveal from =
whom they bought and to whom they sold. =20

I can=E2=80=99t imagine that any Healey owner would object to being =
contacted by a former or later owner of their car for more info about =
their time with it, but unless it is documented someplace, how will they =
ever know about or find you?

I also encourage anyone considering buying a BJ8 to check with me before =
putting their money down.  There are a ton of cars out there now, =
including those restored by big-name, high dollar restorers, that no =
longer wear the same identity they had when they left the factory.  If =
that is important to a buyer, then they should know whatever is known =
about the car before putting their money down.  Like the guy who bought =
a BJ8 with a VIN plate that said one thing, and a number on the shock =
tower that said another.  He took it back to the restorer, who (without =
request or authorization)  ground the original number off the shock =
tower!

Caveat emptor!

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob =
Spidell
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:07 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] [O/T] Beverly Hills Car Club

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"... BHCC did exactly what I feared they would do:  quit advertising the =
VINs ..."

Doesn't speak well for the company. It also means buyers of used cars =
would do well to get the VIN for a car before laying down the cash. I =
don't know if LE reports the VIN of stolen cars to the DMV, but it seems =
like an easy way to cut down on car theft. But, from what I hear, =
'desirable' cars--Camrys, Priuses, etc.--are headed to a chop shop =
before the owner even knows it's gone. Exotics are on a boat to Russia.

CA used to provide the ownership records of cars for a small fee ($5 =
IIRC). My dad always kicked himself in the butt for not springing $5 for =
the provenance of his '65 Mustang, which was bought new by Alice =
Faye--old time singer/movie star; sold to 'Mrs. Phil Harris' (he did =
have the sales receipt)--before the DMV quit providing the service. =
These days, you can get at least some of a car's history from CarFax or =
similar.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC   USA

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don=E2=80=99t know about the other model registries, =
but the BJ8
Registry has always tried to document what could be known about the =
continuous ownership
history of a car.=C2=A0 It was easier to do that in the days before =
=E2=80=9Cprivacy=E2=80=9D became
such an obsession and existing sources for lists of cars and owners =
dried up.=C2=A0 I
was able to obtain such lists from Healey clubs around the world 20 =
years ago,
but most no longer even publish them.=C2=A0 Also obtained historical DMV =
lists from
various sources in various states.=C2=A0 Cars sold through dealers lose =
a lot of
that knowledge because dealers are reluctant to reveal from whom they =
bought and
to whom they sold.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I can=E2=80=99t imagine that any Healey owner would =
object to being
contacted by a former or later owner of their car for more info about =
their
time with it, but unless it is documented someplace, how will they ever =
know
about or find you?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I also encourage anyone considering buying a BJ8 to check =
with
me before putting their money down.=C2=A0 There are a ton of cars out =
there now,
including those restored by big-name, high dollar restorers, that no =
longer
wear the same identity they had when they left the factory.=C2=A0 If =
that is
important to a buyer, then they should know whatever is known about the =
car
before putting their money down.=C2=A0 Like the guy who bought a BJ8 =
with a VIN
plate that said one thing, and a number on the shock tower that said =
another.=C2=A0
He took it back to the restorer, who (without request or =
authorization)=C2=A0 ground
the original number off the shock tower!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Caveat emptor!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Havelock, NC<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob =
Spidell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 8, 2022 11:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] [O/T] Beverly Hills Car =
Club<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&quot;... <span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>BHCC
did exactly what I feared they would do:&nbsp; quit advertising the VINs
...&quot;<br>
<br>
Doesn't speak well for the company. It also means buyers of used cars =
would do
well to get the VIN for a car before laying down the cash. I don't know =
if LE
reports the VIN of stolen cars to the DMV, but it seems like an easy way =
to cut
down on car theft. But, from what I hear, 'desirable' cars--Camrys, =
Priuses,
etc.--are headed to a chop shop before the owner even knows it's gone. =
Exotics
are on a boat to Russia.<br>
<br>
CA used to provide the ownership records of cars for a small fee ($5 =
IIRC). My
dad always kicked himself in the butt for not springing $5 for the =
provenance
of his '65 Mustang, which was bought new by Alice Faye--old time =
singer/movie
star; sold to 'Mrs. Phil Harris' (he did have the sales receipt)--before =
the
DMV quit providing the service. These days, you can get at least some of =
a
car's history from CarFax or similar.<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On 8/8/2022 4:30 AM, BJ8Healeys via Healeys =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In 2006, a previous owner of HBJ8L/40136 sent me an =
inquiry into
whether I had any record of the car.&nbsp; I did not.&nbsp; He said it =
had been
stolen from him in 1970 and never recovered and he was searching for
it.&nbsp;&nbsp; I put the car into the BJ8 Registry with the note about =
its
history and the contact info for the victim.&nbsp; In 2012, I saw it =
come up
for sale on BHCC and notified him.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I requested that in his efforts to recover the car from =
BHCC
that he not mention the BJ8 Registry or my name.&nbsp; BHCC had been =
very
accommodating to me with info about BJ8s they were offering up to that =
point,
and I did not want them to quit advertising the VINs of the BJ8s they =
had for
sale.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>He was successful in recovering the car, and BHCC did =
exactly
what I feared they would do:&nbsp; quit advertising the =
VINs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Steve Byers</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>HBJ8L/36666</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>BJ8 Registry</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Havelock, NC&nbsp;&nbsp; USA</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[<a
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ray Juncal via Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 7, 2022 8:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Spidell; Richard Collins<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] [O/T] Beverly Hills Car =
Club</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I did a
survey there for an Australian buyer a few years ago. They were very
accommodating and put the car on a lift and I got a thorough look. The =
test
ride was brief as the brakes were marginal and the engine was very =
rough. I did
get through all the gears and a listen to the rear end. It was not a =
drive it
home car. The car was destined for a complete restoration so matching =
numbers
and frame and body condition were more important.. I didn't know the =
price he
was quoted but I thought the buyer would get more for his money through =
one of
the clubs. After the survey the buyer made the deal and BHCC arranged =
the
shipping. I think he knew what he was getting and got what he =
expected.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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Brea, CA

1960 BN7

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Sent: Monday, August 08, 2022 8:07 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] [O/T] Beverly Hills Car Club

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HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC   USA

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Both articles are =
interesting reads.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>1960 =
BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob =
Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 08, 2022 8:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] [O/T] Beverly =
Hills Car Club<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&quot;... <span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>BHCC did exactly what I feared they would do:&nbsp; quit advertising =
the VINs ...&quot;<br><br>Doesn't speak well for the company. It also =
means buyers of used cars would do well to get the VIN for a car before =
laying down the cash. I don't know if LE reports the VIN of stolen cars =
to the DMV, but it seems like an easy way to cut down on car theft. But, =
from what I hear, 'desirable' cars--Camrys, Priuses, etc.--are headed to =
a chop shop before the owner even knows it's gone. Exotics are on a boat =
to Russia.<br><br>CA used to provide the ownership records of cars for a =
small fee ($5 IIRC). My dad always kicked himself in the butt for not =
springing $5 for the provenance of his '65 Mustang, which was bought new =
by Alice Faye--old time singer/movie star; sold to 'Mrs. Phil Harris' =
(he did have the sales receipt)--before the DMV quit providing the =
service. These days, you can get at least some of a car's history from =
CarFax or similar.<br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 8/8/2022 4:30 AM, BJ8Healeys via Healeys =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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>Austin-Healeys are not mentioned in the story, but there is one =
particular one involved.<br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>In 2006, a previous owner of HBJ8L/40136 sent me an inquiry into =
whether I had any record of the car.&nbsp; I did not.&nbsp; He said it =
had been stolen from him in 1970 and never recovered and he was =
searching for it.&nbsp;&nbsp; I put the car into the BJ8 Registry with =
the note about its history and the contact info for the victim.&nbsp; In =
2012, I saw it come up for sale on BHCC and notified him.&nbsp; =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>I requested that in his efforts to recover the car from BHCC that he =
not mention the BJ8 Registry or my name.&nbsp; BHCC had been very =
accommodating to me with info about BJ8s they were offering up to that =
point, and I did not want them to quit advertising the VINs of the BJ8s =
they had for sale.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>He was successful in recovering the car, and BHCC did exactly what I =
feared they would do:&nbsp; quit advertising the =
VINs.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
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>Steve Byers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>HBJ8L/36666</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>BJ8 Registry</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Havelock, NC&nbsp;&nbsp; USA</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
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b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ray Juncal via =
Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 7, 2022 8:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob =
Spidell; Richard Collins<br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] [O/T] Beverly Hills Car =
Club</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Funny thing, there was just =
an article in the front section of the Sunday L. A. Times news paper =
today. It was kinder than the Jalopnick piece but said be careful. =
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style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I did a survey there for an =
Australian buyer a few years ago. They were very accommodating and put =
the car on a lift and I got a thorough look. The test ride was brief as =
the brakes were marginal and the engine was very rough. I did get =
through all the gears and a listen to the rear end. It was not a drive =
it home car. The car was destined for a complete restoration so matching =
numbers and frame and body condition were more important.. I didn't know =
the price he was quoted but I thought the buyer would get more for his =
money through one of the clubs. After the survey the buyer made the deal =
and BHCC arranged the shipping. I think he knew what he was getting and =
got what he expected.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>NOTE: &quot;Never buy a pig =
in a poke.&quot; You or a trusted advisor should take a hard look at a =
car before you make the deal. BHCC is just like the want adds or a used =
car lot sometimes good sometimes not. It's up to you to make sure what =
you are getting or no bitching later.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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