Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive not releasing

From: Elton S <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 13:27:42 -0400

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Very interesting, Simon. Thanks for the update.
Elton

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:29 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Back in mid-April I posted a long and detailed question with regard to my
> OD, how it didn=E2=80=99t appear to be coming out of overdrive. This bein=
g
> subsequent to it frying its solenoid.
>
> I received a LOT of detailed suggestions and advice for which I am, as
> ever, very grateful.
>
> I thought that I=E2=80=99d bring you up to date with the issue which is, =
cross
> fingers, resolved.
>
>
>
> So=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to determine that it was not stuck in over=
drive so that was
> a relief.
>
> I was further able to determine that I could set it by every means from a
> dial gauge, the drill bit, guesstimates, whatever. I=E2=80=99d set it and=
 it would
> seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust right=E2=80=9D. But when I got the engine runnin=
g and the box in 3
> rd or 4th and running at +/- 500psi, it all went wrong.
>
> I tried everything, spent hours on it. Could NOT get the bloody thing to
> work.
>
> In the end, I took the gearbox out and lugged it up to OD Spares about 19=
0
> miles away. Not a huge distance, I know, but a PITA with our congested
> motorways. The deal was that they=E2=80=99d start on it as soon as I arri=
ved,
> 08:30, and keep going until it was fixed.
>
> Dave =E2=80=93 he=E2=80=99s pretty much The Man on ODs over here =E2=80=
=93 found two issues which,
> together, were causing the problem:-
>
> 1)      The solenoid had an intermittent failure which was internal ie no
> amount of dicking around with the points could fix it. (Brand new, just o=
ut
> of the box).
>
> 2)      More interestingly =E2=80=93 and first time I=E2=80=99ve ever hea=
rd of this one =E2=80=93
> the pinch lever thingie that=E2=80=99s hooked onto the solenoid=E2=80=99s=
 plunger and which
> turns the shaft=E2=80=A6that could not be tightened up enough. What was h=
appening
> was this=E2=80=A6it would do the business when there was no pressure in t=
he OD and
> I=E2=80=99d get it set. ie there was no resistance from the 500psi and th=
e pinch
> was just tight enough. Then, under pressure, it would slip and not be abl=
e
> to move the rod that lifts the ball.
>
> Particularly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sensible synop=
sis of
> what was going on.
>
> Dave said what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D s=
olenoids are not really
> Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to look like Lucas. He gave me a used one=
 out of
> stock, genuine article. And he swapped my new pinch lever thingie for an
> NOS. That last item was also brand new so you might look carefully at any
> new ones that you buy. May be a bad batch out there=E2=80=A6.Simple enoug=
h to fix
> it. Just run a hack saw through the split and make it a fraction wider.
>
> Anyhow, the box is still on the garage floor and I just hope it=E2=80=99l=
l all
> work when I get it all back together.
>
> Simon Lachlan
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Very interesting, Simon. Thanks for the update.<div>Elton<=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:29 PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB=
"><div class=3D"gmail-m_7938553179058822165WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">Back in mid-April I posted a long and detailed question with regard to=
 my OD, how it didn=E2=80=99t appear to be coming out of overdrive. This be=
ing subsequent to it frying its solenoid.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">I received a LOT of detailed suggestions and advice for which I am, =
as ever, very grateful.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I thought t=
hat I=E2=80=99d bring you up to date with the issue which is, cross fingers=
, resolved.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to determine that it=
 was not stuck in overdrive so that was a relief.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">I was further able to determine that I could set it by every=
 means from a dial gauge, the drill bit, guesstimates, whatever. I=E2=80=99=
d set it and it would seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust right=E2=80=9D. But when I g=
ot the engine running and the box in 3<sup>rd</sup> or 4<sup>th</sup> and r=
unning at +/- 500psi, it all went wrong.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">I tried everything, spent hours on it. Could NOT get the bloody thing=
 to work. <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In the end, I took the g=
earbox out and lugged it up to OD Spares about 190 miles away. Not a huge d=
istance, I know, but a PITA with our congested motorways. The deal was that=
 they=E2=80=99d start on it as soon as I arrived, 08:30, and keep going unt=
il it was fixed.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dave =E2=80=93 he=
=E2=80=99s pretty much The Man on ODs over here =E2=80=93 found two issues =
which, together, were causing the problem:-<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"gm=
ail-m_7938553179058822165MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span><span>1)<span style=
=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </=
span></span></span><u></u><span>The solenoid had an intermittent failure wh=
ich was internal ie no amount of dicking around with the points could fix i=
t. (Brand new, just out of the box).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"gm=
ail-m_7938553179058822165MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span><span>2)<span style=
=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </=
span></span></span><u></u><span>More interestingly =E2=80=93 and first time=
 I=E2=80=99ve ever heard of this one =E2=80=93 the pinch lever thingie that=
=E2=80=99s hooked onto the solenoid=E2=80=99s plunger and which turns the s=
haft=E2=80=A6that could not be tightened up enough. What was happening was =
this=E2=80=A6it would do the business when there was no pressure in the OD =
and I=E2=80=99d get it set. ie there was no resistance from the 500psi and =
the pinch was just tight enough. Then, under pressure, it would slip and no=
t be able to move the rod that lifts the ball.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Particularly when taken together, I think that=E2=
=80=99s a sensible synopsis of what was going on.<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Dave said what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new=
 =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D solenoids are not really Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.jus=
t made to look like Lucas. He gave me a used one out of stock, genuine arti=
cle. And he swapped my new pinch lever thingie for an NOS. That last item w=
as also brand new so you might look carefully at any new ones that you buy.=
 May be a bad batch out there=E2=80=A6.Simple enough to fix it. Just run a =
hack saw through the split and make it a fraction wider.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Anyhow, the box is still on the garage f=
loor and I just hope it=E2=80=99ll all work when I get it all back together=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon Lachlan<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></di=
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From: Roland Wilhelmy via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 10:40:59 -0700

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Simon, you deserve a medal

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drive so that was
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<div dir=3D"auto">Simon, you deserve a medal</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 4, 2022, 9:29 AM Si=
mon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heale=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-86690=
40587305027159WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Back in mid-April I post=
ed a long and detailed question with regard to my OD, how it didn=E2=80=99t=
 appear to be coming out of overdrive. This being subsequent to it frying i=
ts solenoid.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I received a LOT of de=
tailed suggestions and advice for which I am, as ever, very grateful.<u></u=
><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I thought that I=E2=80=99d bring you up =
to date with the issue which is, cross fingers, resolved.<u></u><u></u></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to determine that it was not stuck in overdrive s=
o that was a relief.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I was further =
able to determine that I could set it by every means from a dial gauge, the=
 drill bit, guesstimates, whatever. I=E2=80=99d set it and it would seem to=
 be =E2=80=9Cjust right=E2=80=9D. But when I got the engine running and the=
 box in 3<sup>rd</sup> or 4<sup>th</sup> and running at +/- 500psi, it all =
went wrong.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I tried everything, spe=
nt hours on it. Could NOT get the bloody thing to work. <u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">In the end, I took the gearbox out and lugged it up t=
o OD Spares about 190 miles away. Not a huge distance, I know, but a PITA w=
ith our congested motorways. The deal was that they=E2=80=99d start on it a=
s soon as I arrived, 08:30, and keep going until it was fixed.<u></u><u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dave =E2=80=93 he=E2=80=99s pretty much The Man=
 on ODs over here =E2=80=93 found two issues which, together, were causing =
the problem:-<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"m_-8669040587305027159MsoListPar=
agraph"><u></u><span><span>1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roma=
n&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span></span><u></u><span>T=
he solenoid had an intermittent failure which was internal ie no amount of =
dicking around with the points could fix it. (Brand new, just out of the bo=
x).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-8669040587305027159MsoListParagr=
aph"><u></u><span><span>2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&q=
uot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span></span><u></u><span>More=
 interestingly =E2=80=93 and first time I=E2=80=99ve ever heard of this one=
 =E2=80=93 the pinch lever thingie that=E2=80=99s hooked onto the solenoid=
=E2=80=99s plunger and which turns the shaft=E2=80=A6that could not be tigh=
tened up enough. What was happening was this=E2=80=A6it would do the busine=
ss when there was no pressure in the OD and I=E2=80=99d get it set. ie ther=
e was no resistance from the 500psi and the pinch was just tight enough. Th=
en, under pressure, it would slip and not be able to move the rod that lift=
s the ball.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Particular=
ly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sensible synopsis of what =
was going on.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Dave sai=
d what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D solenoids a=
re not really Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to look like Lucas. He gave m=
e a used one out of stock, genuine article. And he swapped my new pinch lev=
er thingie for an NOS. That last item was also brand new so you might look =
carefully at any new ones that you buy. May be a bad batch out there=E2=80=
=A6.Simple enough to fix it. Just run a hack saw through the split and make=
 it a fraction wider.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=
Anyhow, the box is still on the garage floor and I just hope it=E2=80=99ll =
all work when I get it all back together.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon Lachlan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div>________________________________=
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From: healeyguy--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 18:04:08 +0000 (UTC)

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SimonThanks for the update. Once again our "friends" that supply replacemen=
t parts have failed to do quality control on the stuff they produce or have=
 produced for our consumption.=C2=A0P

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
To: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2022 12:26 pm
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive not releasing

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vice for which I am, as ever, very grateful.I thought that I=E2=80=99d brin=
g you up to date with the issue which is, cross fingers, resolved. =C2=A0So=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to determine that it was not stuck in overdriv=
e so that was a relief.I was further able to determine that I could set it =
by every means from a dial gauge, the drill bit, guesstimates, whatever. I=
=E2=80=99d set it and it would seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust right=E2=80=9D. But=
 when I got the engine running and the box in 3rd or 4th and running at +/-=
 500psi, it all went wrong.I tried everything, spent hours on it. Could NOT=
 get the bloody thing to work. In the end, I took the gearbox out and lugge=
d it up to OD Spares about 190 miles away. Not a huge distance, I know, but=
 a PITA with our congested motorways. The deal was that they=E2=80=99d star=
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and which turns the shaft=E2=80=A6that could not be tightened up enough. Wh=
at was happening was this=E2=80=A6it would do the business when there was n=
o pressure in the OD and I=E2=80=99d get it set. ie there was no resistance=
 from the 500psi and the pinch was just tight enough. Then, under pressure,=
 it would slip and not be able to move the rod that lifts the ball.Particul=
arly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sensible synopsis of wha=
t was going on.Dave said what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLuc=
as=E2=80=9D solenoids are not really Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to loo=
k like Lucas. He gave me a used one out of stock, genuine article. And he s=
wapped my new pinch lever thingie for an NOS. That last item was also brand=
 new so you might look carefully at any new ones that you buy. May be a bad=
 batch out there=E2=80=A6.Simple enough to fix it. Just run a hack saw thro=
ugh the split and make it a fraction wider.Anyhow, the box is still on the =
garage floor and I just hope it=E2=80=99ll all work when I get it all back =
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<div>Simon</div>
Thanks for the update. Once again our "friends" that supply replacement par=
ts have failed to do quality control on the stuff they produce or have prod=
uced for our consumption.&nbsp;
<div>P<br>
<br>
<br>

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<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">Back in mid-April I posted a long and=
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 coming out of overdrive. This being subsequent to it frying its solenoid.<=
/div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">I received a LOT of detailed suggesti=
ons and advice for which I am, as ever, very grateful.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">I thought that I=E2=80=99d bring you =
up to date with the issue which is, cross fingers, resolved.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">So=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to det=
ermine that it was not stuck in overdrive so that was a relief.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">I was further able to determine that =
I could set it by every means from a dial gauge, the drill bit, guesstimate=
s, whatever. I=E2=80=99d set it and it would seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust right=
=E2=80=9D. But when I got the engine running and the box in 3<sup>rd</sup> =
or 4<sup>th</sup> and running at +/- 500psi, it all went wrong.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">I tried everything, spent hours on it=
. Could NOT get the bloody thing to work. </div>

<div class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">In the end, I took the gearbox out an=
d lugged it up to OD Spares about 190 miles away. Not a huge distance, I kn=
ow, but a PITA with our congested motorways. The deal was that they=E2=80=
=99d start on it as soon as I arrived, 08:30, and keep going until it was f=
ixed.</div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal">Dave =E2=80=93 he=E2=80=99=
s pretty much The Man on ODs over here =E2=80=93 found two issues which, to=
gether, were causing the problem:-</div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoListParagraph"><span style=3D""><s=
pan style=3D"">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style=3D"">The sole=
noid had an intermittent failure which was internal ie no amount of dicking=
 around with the points could fix it. (Brand new, just out of the box).</sp=
an></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoListParagraph"><span style=3D""><s=
pan style=3D"">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style=3D"">More int=
erestingly =E2=80=93 and first time I=E2=80=99ve ever heard of this one =E2=
=80=93 the pinch lever thingie that=E2=80=99s hooked onto the solenoid=E2=
=80=99s plunger and which turns the shaft=E2=80=A6that could not be tighten=
ed up enough. What was happening was this=E2=80=A6it would do the business =
when there was no pressure in the OD and I=E2=80=99d get it set. ie there w=
as no resistance from the 500psi and the pinch was just tight enough. Then,=
 under pressure, it would slip and not be able to move the rod that lifts t=
he ball.</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Particula=
rly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sensible synopsis of what=
 was going on.</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Dave said=
 what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D solenoids ar=
e not really Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to look like Lucas. He gave me=
 a used one out of stock, genuine article. And he swapped my new pinch leve=
r thingie for an NOS. That last item was also brand new so you might look c=
arefully at any new ones that you buy. May be a bad batch out there=E2=80=
=A6.Simple enough to fix it. Just run a hack saw through the split and make=
 it a fraction wider.</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Anyhow, t=
he box is still on the garage floor and I just hope it=E2=80=99ll all work =
when I get it all back together.</span></div>

<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv1973589540MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Simon Lac=
hlan</span></div>

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Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 07:32:35 -0400

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Very interesting and helpful hints into OD issues. I feel your pain. Please l=
et us know when you have all the pieces together and fire up and go, if the p=
roblem is resolved. Thanks for sharing!

Alan Wasserman
[email-masked]
732-887-0742
www.wassermanstudio.com

> On May 4, 2022, at 12:26 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Back in mid-April I posted a long and detailed question with regard to my O=
D, how it didn=E2=80=99t appear to be coming out of overdrive. This being su=
bsequent to it frying its solenoid.
> I received a LOT of detailed suggestions and advice for which I am, as eve=
r, very grateful.
> I thought that I=E2=80=99d bring you up to date with the issue which is, c=
ross fingers, resolved.
> =20
> So=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6I was able to determine that it was not stuck in overd=
rive so that was a relief.
> I was further able to determine that I could set it by every means from a d=
ial gauge, the drill bit, guesstimates, whatever. I=E2=80=99d set it and it w=
ould seem to be =E2=80=9Cjust right=E2=80=9D. But when I got the engine runn=
ing and the box in 3rd or 4th and running at +/- 500psi, it all went wrong.
> I tried everything, spent hours on it. Could NOT get the bloody thing to w=
ork.
> In the end, I took the gearbox out and lugged it up to OD Spares about 190=
 miles away. Not a huge distance, I know, but a PITA with our congested moto=
rways. The deal was that they=E2=80=99d start on it as soon as I arrived, 08=
:30, and keep going until it was fixed.
> Dave =E2=80=93 he=E2=80=99s pretty much The Man on ODs over here =E2=80=93=
 found two issues which, together, were causing the problem:-
> 1)      The solenoid had an intermittent failure which was internal ie no a=
mount of dicking around with the points could fix it. (Brand new, just out o=
f the box).
> 2)      More interestingly =E2=80=93 and first time I=E2=80=99ve ever hear=
d of this one =E2=80=93 the pinch lever thingie that=E2=80=99s hooked onto t=
he solenoid=E2=80=99s plunger and which turns the shaft=E2=80=A6that could n=
ot be tightened up enough. What was happening was this=E2=80=A6it would do t=
he business when there was no pressure in the OD and I=E2=80=99d get it set.=
 ie there was no resistance from the 500psi and the pinch was just tight eno=
ugh. Then, under pressure, it would slip and not be able to move the rod tha=
t lifts the ball.
> Particularly when taken together, I think that=E2=80=99s a sensible synops=
is of what was going on.
> Dave said what we all know=E2=80=A6that the new =E2=80=9CLucas=E2=80=9D so=
lenoids are not really Lucas at all=E2=80=A6.just made to look like Lucas. H=
e gave me a used one out of stock, genuine article. And he swapped my new pi=
nch lever thingie for an NOS. That last item was also brand new so you might=
 look carefully at any new ones that you buy. May be a bad batch out there=E2=
=80=A6.Simple enough to fix it. Just run a hack saw through the split and ma=
ke it a fraction wider.
> Anyhow, the box is still on the garage floor and I just hope it=E2=80=99ll=
 all work when I get it all back together.
> =20

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