Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query

From: "m.g.sharp--- via Healeys" <[email-masked]>
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Thanks for the extra detail Simon, looks like you have the process well in
hand.  I don't think you will know why the g'box would not snug up to the
rear plate unless you have it out again, especially since it went in OK the
previous times.  I have no explanation.  If you have to pump the clutch to
get a clean shift there is definitely air in the system.  A longer pushrod
will not help that, it will just position the piston in the slave cylinder
in a different place - the amount of movement will remain the same.

Good point from Bob on the helicoil for the slave cyl bolts,  Also, the
original bolts on mine did not extend all the way to the end of the threaded
holes, so I installed longer bolts that do go all the way, but do not
project into the bell housing as I believe there is little clearance between
the pressure plate and the inside of the housing and you don't want it
catching on the ends of long bolts!

FYI, the clutch issue I had a few years back was with a new Borg&Beck
clutch.  B&B was taken over by new ownership a few years ago (it could have
been quite a few) and the design of the clutch disc changed.  The change was
that on the originals, the springs that take up the torque were retained by
a partial cage (disc on left in attached photo).  In the new design they
were fully enclosed (disc on right).  This increased the thickness of the
centre of the clutch plate minimally.  However, it was enough that when I
fully depressed the clutch pedal, the arms (levers) on the pressure plate
fouled the spring cages on the clutch disc and made a hell of a racket.  In
the photo, you can see the marks in the fully enclosed spring housing on the
new design where it was hitting the arms of the pressure plate.   It worked
OK and the shifting was fine, unless I fully depressed the clutch pedal.  An
NOS clutch disk kindly supplied by Mike Salter fixed the issue.  

Let us know how it goes Simon.

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan
via Healeys
Sent: September 20, 2021 9:41 AM
To: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] New Clutch query

Thank you very much for the replies. All food for thought barring one which
was just plain rude. Usual source.

One thing I should have mentioned earlier.....the lightened flywheel. On the
brief test drive I was most impressed. The car was more responsive and
seemed to accelerate quite a bit better. Not possible to be too thorough as
was concentrating on the clutch but first impressions are very favourable.
So, thanks for the input there.

As to the clutch.

1.	I didn't really think it at all likely that there was a running-in
period for clutches. I was just applying Sod's Law in reverse.
2.	By "difficult clutch", I meant that I could not engage gear without
an apparent clash of teeth unless I pumped the pedal several times. Hence
the bleeding and the query about the "longer push rod".
3.	On installation, I lined the clutch plate up with great care. I used
the plastic thing but did check alignment with my spare, original, shaft.
Particularly second time around. I cannot account for the reluctance to
slide onto the shaft. I've had the box out twice before and, yes, it did go
back in easily enough.
4.	The new clutch (3 piece kit) itself is precisely the same as the
original. Borg & Beck. Compared old with new on the counter at AHSpares.
Identical.
5.	I followed B&B's destructions to the letter. Applied grease etcetc.
BMC manual was not particularly helpful as it rather harks back to the days
when clutches were serviceable items.
6.	The slave cylinder is OK. I serviced it when I put in the
clutch-bleeding extension pipe about a year ago and it's been fine ever
since. 
7.	Just to mention.the black, ribbed, rubber clutch pipe was renewed at
same time. 
8.	The 2 dowel bolts are correctly placed. Unlike previously when there
was only one but it had made no difference.
9.	The cutting the head off the slave cylinder's top bolt originated
from Norman Nock. He was always one of my top gurus so I thought it worth
serious consideration. Of course, getting the newly beheaded bolt back in
and tightened up with the appropriate locking goo would probably be more of
a pain than simply putting in the top bolt per normal. Actually, it wasn't
too bad this time around.

Apart from rebleeding clutch and checking out the slave cylinder, it looks
like it'll all have to come apart again. Unless someone's had an
inspiration??

Simon

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks for the extra detail Simon, =
looks like you have the process well in hand.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t think =
you will know why the g&#8217;box would not snug up to the rear plate =
unless you have it out again, especially since it went in OK the =
previous times.&nbsp; I have no explanation.&nbsp; If you have to pump =
the clutch to get a clean shift there is definitely air in the =
system.&nbsp; A longer pushrod will not help that, it will just position =
the piston in the slave cylinder in a different place &#8211; the amount =
of movement will remain the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Good point =
from Bob on the helicoil for the slave cyl bolts,&nbsp; Also, the =
original bolts on mine did not extend all the way to the end of the =
threaded holes, so I installed longer bolts that do go all the way, but =
do not project into the bell housing as I believe there is little =
clearance between the pressure plate and the inside of the housing and =
you don&#8217;t want it catching on the ends of long =
bolts!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>FYI, the =
clutch issue I had a few years back was with a new Borg&amp;Beck =
clutch.&nbsp; B&amp;B was taken over by new ownership a few years ago =
(it could have been quite a few) and the design of the clutch disc =
changed.&nbsp; The change was that on the originals, the springs that =
take up the torque were retained by a partial cage (disc on left in =
attached photo).&nbsp; In the new design they were fully enclosed (disc =
on right).&nbsp; This increased the thickness of the centre of the =
clutch plate minimally.&nbsp; However, it was enough that when I fully =
depressed the clutch pedal, the arms (levers) on the pressure plate =
fouled the spring cages on the clutch disc and made a hell of a =
racket.&nbsp; In the photo, you can see the marks in the fully enclosed =
spring housing on the new design where it was hitting the arms of the =
pressure plate. &nbsp;&nbsp;It worked OK and the shifting was fine, =
unless I fully depressed the clutch pedal.&nbsp; An NOS clutch disk =
kindly supplied by Mike Salter fixed the issue.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Let us know =
how it goes Simon.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers, =
Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon Lachlan =
via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> September 20, 2021 9:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
'Healeys' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
New Clutch query<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thank you very much =
for the replies. All food for thought barring one which was just plain =
rude. Usual source.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>One thing I should have mentioned =
earlier&#8230;....the lightened flywheel. On the&nbsp; brief test drive =
I was most impressed. The car was more responsive and seemed to =
accelerate quite a bit better. Not possible to be too thorough as was =
concentrating on the clutch but first impressions are very favourable. =
So, thanks for the input there.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As to the =
clutch.<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style=3D'margin-top:0cm' start=3D1 =
type=3D1><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I didn&#8217;t really think it at =
all likely that there was a running-in period for clutches. I was just =
applying Sod&#8217;s Law in reverse.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>By =
&#8220;difficult clutch&#8221;, I meant that I could not engage gear =
without an apparent clash of teeth unless I pumped the pedal several =
times. Hence the bleeding and the query about the &#8220;longer push =
rod&#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>On installation, I lined the clutch =
plate up with great care. I used the plastic thing but did check =
alignment with my spare, original, shaft. Particularly second time =
around. I cannot account for the reluctance to slide onto the shaft. =
I&#8217;ve had the box out twice before and, yes, it did go back in =
easily enough.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The new clutch (3 piece kit) itself =
is precisely the same as the original. Borg &amp; Beck. Compared old =
with new on the counter at AHSpares. =
Identical.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I followed B&amp;B&#8217;s =
destructions to the letter. Applied grease etcetc. BMC manual was not =
particularly helpful as it rather harks back to the days when clutches =
were serviceable items.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The slave =
cylinder is OK. I serviced it when I put in the clutch-bleeding =
extension pipe about a year ago and it&#8217;s been fine ever since. =
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Just to mention&#8230;the black, =
ribbed, rubber clutch pipe was renewed at same time. =
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The 2 dowel bolts are correctly =
placed. Unlike previously when there was only one but it had made no =
difference.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The cutting the head off the slave =
cylinder&#8217;s top bolt originated from Norman Nock. He was always one =
of my top gurus so I thought it worth serious consideration. Of course, =
getting the newly beheaded bolt back in and tightened up with the =
appropriate locking goo would probably be more of a pain than simply =
putting in the top bolt per normal. Actually, it wasn&#8217;t too bad =
this time around.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Apart from rebleeding clutch and =
checking out the slave cylinder, it looks like it&#8217;ll all have to =
come apart again. Unless someone&#8217;s had an =
inspiration??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></=
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From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
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To revert to the problem I've being having with my gearbox not wanting to
reinstall to my new clutch..

Bleeding it made no difference.. It was a forlorn hope as I was sure I'd not
lost any fluid but miracles are always welcome.

The gearbox is on the workshop floor as is the new clutch.

Before removing the new clutch I played around with the AH Spares plastic
alignment tool and my spare shaft. Both went in without any trouble but I
suppose they would have anyhow unless they'd been miles out?? The new clutch
slides onto the shaft in the gearbox just as it should.

See attached file..Seems to me that the old clutch was in pretty good shape
and, with benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well alone! It's
been in there for 27 years that I know of. There were/are a few
discrepancies between the old and new clutches. See attached. I don't think
these would matter????

Are there any obvious steps that I might have missed? Obvious, but,
seemingly, not to me!

I haven't taken out the flywheel. Didn't see why? It's in; it's
straight/vertical and works.

People state a preference for alignment with a spare shaft rather than the
black plastic tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be somewhat more
precise, but harder to use surely? 

I'm reluctant to reinstall and just repeat the whole sorry process..

Any suggestion?

Thanks,

Simon

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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Bleeding it =
made no difference.. It was a forlorn hope as I was sure I&#8217;d not =
lost any fluid but miracles are always welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The gearbox =
is on the workshop floor as is the new clutch.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Before =
removing the new clutch I played around with the AH Spares plastic =
alignment tool and my spare shaft. Both went in without any trouble but =
I suppose they would have anyhow unless they&#8217;d been miles out?? =
The new clutch slides onto the shaft in the gearbox just as it =
should.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>See =
attached file&#8230;&#8230;Seems to me that the old clutch was in pretty =
good shape and, with benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left =
well alone! It&#8217;s been in there for 27 years that I know of. There =
were/are a few discrepancies between the old and new clutches. See =
attached. I don&#8217;t think these would =
matter????<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Are there =
any obvious steps that I might have missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not =
to me!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I =
haven&#8217;t taken out the flywheel. Didn&#8217;t see why? It&#8217;s =
in; it&#8217;s straight/vertical and works.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>People =
state a preference for alignment with a spare shaft rather than the =
black plastic tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be somewhat =
more precise, but harder to use surely? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I&#8217;m =
reluctant to reinstall and just repeat the whole sorry =
process&#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Any =
suggestion?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></b=
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One suggestion:  When you use the centering tool (plastic or otherwise),
tilt the tool all the way up then all the way down, then do the same from
side to side, then split the difference with the tool in place when you
tighten the pressure plate bolts.  I personally go through this routine at
least 2 or 3 times to make sure I am as close to the center position as
possible.

One question: Why do you think the metal input shaft is harder to use than
the plastic tool?   The input shaft is much longer than the plastic tool
and you can get a better feel for finding the center position when moving
it through its range of motion as you align the disc.

On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
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>
>
> To revert to the problem I=E2=80=99ve being having with my gearbox not wa=
nting to
> reinstall to my new clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> Bleeding it made no difference.. It was a forlorn hope as I was sure I=E2=
=80=99d
> not lost any fluid but miracles are always welcome.
>
>
>
> suppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=99d been miles out?? The=
 new
> clutch slides onto the shaft in the gearbox just as it should.
>
>
>
> See attached file=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Seems to me that the old clutch was in=
 pretty good
> shape and, with benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well alon=
e!
> It=E2=80=99s been in there for 27 years that I know of. There were/are a =
few
> discrepancies between the old and new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=
=99t think
> I haven=E2=80=99t taken out the flywheel. Didn=E2=80=99t see why? It=E2=
=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s
> People state a preference for alignment with a spare shaft rather than th=
e
> I=E2=80=99m reluctant to reinstall and just repeat the whole sorry proces=
s=E2=80=A6.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>One suggestion:=C2=A0 When you use the centering tool=
 (plastic or otherwise), tilt the tool all the way up then all the way down=
, then do the same from side to side, then split the difference with the to=
ol in place when you tighten the pressure plate bolts.=C2=A0 I personally g=
o through this routine at least 2 or 3 times to make sure I am as close to =
the center position as possible.</div><div><br></div><div>One question: Why=
 do you think the metal input shaft is harder to use than the plastic tool?=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 The input shaft is much longer than the plastic tool and you c=
an get a better feel for finding the center position when moving it through=
 its range of motion as you align the disc. <br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 26, 2021=
 at 7:42 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB"><div class=3D"gmail-m_=
-6376956538359104062WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>To revert to the problem =
I=E2=80=99ve being having with my gearbox not wanting to reinstall to my ne=
w clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Bleeding i=
t made no difference.. It was a forlorn hope as I was sure I=E2=80=99d not =
lost any fluid but miracles are always welcome.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span>The gearbox is on the workshop floor as is the new clutch.<u></u=
><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Before removing the new clutch I played ar=
ound with the AH Spares plastic alignment tool and my spare shaft. Both wen=
t in without any trouble but I suppose they would have anyhow unless they=
=E2=80=99d been miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in the gea=
rbox just as it should.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>See attached =
file=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Seems to me that the old clutch was in pretty good sh=
ape and, with benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well alone! I=
t=E2=80=99s been in there for 27 years that I know of. There were/are a few=
 discrepancies between the old and new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=
=99t think these would matter????<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Are=
 there any obvious steps that I might have missed? Obvious, but, seemingly,=
 not to me!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I haven=E2=80=99t taken o=
ut the flywheel. Didn=E2=80=99t see why? It=E2=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s stra=
ight/vertical and works.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>People state=
 a preference for alignment with a spare shaft rather than the black plasti=
c tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be somewhat more precise, but =
harder to use surely? <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I=E2=80=99m re=
luctant to reinstall and just repeat the whole sorry process=E2=80=A6.<u></=
u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Any suggestion?<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span>Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>S=
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One more thing.  Be sure to loosen all of the pressure plates bolts so that
as you move the tool through its range of motion the clutch disc will move
around easily as well.

nting to
=80=99d
 new
 pretty good
e!
few
=99t think
=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s
e
s=E2=80=A6.
> Simon

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<div dir=3D"ltr">One more thing.=C2=A0 Be sure to loosen all of the pressur=
e plates bolts so that as you move the tool through its range of motion the=
 clutch disc will move around easily as well.<br></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:=
42 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-8643605=
838144617230WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>To revert to the problem I=E2=80=99=
ve being having with my gearbox not wanting to reinstall to my new clutch=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Bleeding it made n=
o difference.. It was a forlorn hope as I was sure I=E2=80=99d not lost any=
 fluid but miracles are always welcome.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an>The gearbox is on the workshop floor as is the new clutch.<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Before removing the new clutch I played around wit=
h the AH Spares plastic alignment tool and my spare shaft. Both went in wit=
hout any trouble but I suppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=99d=
 been miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in the gearbox just =
as it should.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>See attached file=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6Seems to me that the old clutch was in pretty good shape and=
, with benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well alone! It=E2=80=
=99s been in there for 27 years that I know of. There were/are a few discre=
pancies between the old and new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=99t thi=
nk these would matter????<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Are there a=
ny obvious steps that I might have missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not to =
me!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I haven=E2=80=99t taken out the f=
lywheel. Didn=E2=80=99t see why? It=E2=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s straight/ver=
tical and works.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>People state a prefe=
rence for alignment with a spare shaft rather than the black plastic tool. =
I can see that the metal shaft might be somewhat more precise, but harder t=
o use surely? <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I=E2=80=99m reluctant =
to reinstall and just repeat the whole sorry process=E2=80=A6.<u></u><u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Any suggestion?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span>Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div></div>_________________________________________=
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,</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Reading=
 your previous post from 10,000 miles away it seemed the transmission wasn=
=E2=80=99t fully disengaging from the flywheel when you depressed the clutc=
h. The hydraulic issues have been eliminated. Other possible area to check =
is the input shaft. Could it be binding in the Spigot Bush (pilot bearing o=
n this side of the pond)? This is SWAG but is there any slop in the clutch =
lever bushings. Is the release bearing new and does it have the same dimens=
ions as the previous one? Perhaps the additional thickness of a new clutch =
disc isn=E2=80=99t allowing it to fully disengage from the flywheel. Don=E2=
=80=99t take this the wrong way but was the wrong side of the disc towards =
the flywheel?</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>In a previous thread it was mentioned the two machined shoulder bolts =
should be at the 11:00AM and 5:30PM position. I checked the fit of the shou=
lder bolts against two bell housings I have and they fit snuggly. Did you f=
it and tighten these first?</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal>Good luck=E2=80=A6 Harold</p><div style=3D'mso-element:p=
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/b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">richard mayor via Healeys</a><=
br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, September 26, 2021 9:56 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Healeys</a><b=
r><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query</p></div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>One more thing.&nbsp; Be=
 sure to loosen all of the pressure plates bolts so that as you move the to=
ol through its range of motion the clutch disc will move around easily as w=
ell.</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.=
0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
 style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3D=
EN-GB>To revert to the problem I=E2=80=99ve being having with my gearbox no=
t wanting to reinstall to my new clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom=
-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=
=3DEN-GB>Bleeding it made no difference.. It was a forlorn hope as I was su=
re I=E2=80=99d not lost any fluid but miracles are always welcome.<o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-marg=
in-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><=
span lang=3DEN-GB>The gearbox is on the workshop floor as is the new clutch=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:aut=
o;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Before removing the new clutch I played around =
with the AH Spares plastic alignment tool and my spare shaft. Both went in =
without any trouble but I suppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=
=99d been miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in the gearbox j=
ust as it should.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso=
-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>See attached file=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6Seems to me that the old clutch was in pretty good shape and, with be=
nefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well alone! It=E2=80=99s been=
 in there for 27 years that I know of. There were/are a few discrepancies b=
etween the old and new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=99t think these =
would matter????<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-mar=
gin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Are there any obvious steps that=
 I might have missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not to me!<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom=
-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=
=3DEN-GB>I haven=E2=80=99t taken out the flywheel. Didn=E2=80=99t see why? =
It=E2=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s straight/vertical and works.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-botto=
m-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB>People state a preference for alignment with a spare shaft rather=
 than the black plastic tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be somew=
hat more precise, but harder to use surely? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><=
span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>I=
=E2=80=99m reluctant to reinstall and just repeat the whole sorry process=
=E2=80=A6.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin=
-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Any suggestion?<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN=
-GB>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-t=
op-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p>=
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From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 13:43:19 +0100

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=20

Thank you everybody for your replies.=20

=20

Richard=E2=80=99s advice as to centering the clutch by moving the =
alignment tool back and forth, up/down seems very sensible and =
I=E2=80=99ll try that.

=20

I said that I thought the black plastic alignment tool was easier to use =
than the shaft because, with plastic tool, one can plug the clutch plate =
to the flywheel then wind on the cover as no part of the tool is wider =
than the hole in the centre of the cover. With the shaft, one has to put =
it through cover and clutch plate and then fight the pair up and onto =
the flywheel.=20

=20

Two people found (very!) polite ways of asking if I=E2=80=99d put the =
clutch plate on backwards. Sadly not; that might have produced an =
instant cure. I=E2=80=99m way past being offended by such questions.=20

=20

Nothing is binding in the spigot bush/pilot bearing. Another instant =
cure missed.

=20

No slop in the  clutch lever bushings. The slave=E2=80=99s push rod and =
clevis pin were in a bad way although that had not  -   previously =
=E2=80=93 impinged. I=E2=80=99ve ordered new ones anyhow.

=20

I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel bolts and used them at 11:00 and 17:30. =
(Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got on file an email, 11 June =E2=80=9902, =
of Michael=E2=80=99s in which he makes reference to the importance =
attached to these bolts as a =E2=80=9Ctempest in a teapot=E2=80=9D. His =
maths makes perfect sense, as you=E2=80=99d expect, but I=E2=80=99ll be =
sure to put them in per the book).

=20

I did have a jack under the engine and will again.=20

=20

Barring anything new received from you guys, I=E2=80=99ll just have to =
try again, paying great attention to the plate being centred and the =
engine/gearbox being at compatible angles.

=20

No attempt today as son-in-law is at work! It is definitely a task where =
an Arnie-lookalike is extremely useful.

=20

Simon

=20

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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thank you =
everybody for your replies. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Richard=E2=80=99s advice as to =
centering the clutch by moving the alignment tool back and forth, =
up/down seems very sensible and I=E2=80=99ll try =
that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I said that =
I thought the black plastic alignment tool was easier to use than the =
shaft because, with plastic tool, one can plug the clutch plate to the =
flywheel then wind on the cover as no part of the tool is wider than the =
hole in the centre of the cover. With the shaft, one has to put it =
through cover and clutch plate and then fight the pair up and onto the =
flywheel. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Two people =
found (very!) polite ways of asking if I=E2=80=99d put the clutch plate =
on backwards. Sadly not; that might have produced an instant cure. =
I=E2=80=99m way past being offended by such questions. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nothing is =
binding in the spigot bush/pilot bearing. Another instant cure =
missed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>No slop in =
the=C2=A0 clutch lever bushings. The slave=E2=80=99s push rod and clevis =
pin were in a bad way although that had not=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
previously =E2=80=93 impinged. I=E2=80=99ve ordered new ones =
anyhow.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel =
bolts and used them at 11:00 and 17:30. (Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got =
on file an email, 11 June =E2=80=9902, of Michael=E2=80=99s in which he =
makes reference to the importance attached to these bolts as a =
=E2=80=9Ctempest in a teapot=E2=80=9D. His maths makes perfect sense, as =
you=E2=80=99d expect, but I=E2=80=99ll be sure to put them in per the =
book).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I did have =
a jack under the engine and will again. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Barring =
anything new received from you guys, I=E2=80=99ll just have to try =
again, paying great attention to the plate being centred and the =
engine/gearbox being at compatible angles.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>No attempt =
today as son-in-law is at work! It is definitely a task where an =
Arnie-lookalike is extremely useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 11:02:03 -0400

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I agree with Richard =E2=80=93 I go through the same =
=E2=80=9Cmicro=E2=80=9D centering process.

=20

From: richard mayor <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: September 26, 2021 12:39 PM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]; Healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query

=20

One suggestion:  When you use the centering tool (plastic or otherwise), =
tilt the tool all the way up then all the way down, then do the same =
from side to side, then split the difference with the tool in place when =
you tighten the pressure plate bolts.  I personally go through this =
routine at least 2 or 3 times to make sure I am as close to the center =
position as possible.

=20

One question: Why do you think the metal input shaft is harder to use =
than the plastic tool?   The input shaft is much longer than the plastic =
tool and you can get a better feel for finding the center position when =
moving it through its range of motion as you align the disc.=20

=20

On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys =

=20

To revert to the problem I=E2=80=99ve being having with my gearbox not =
wanting to reinstall to my new clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6

=20

Bleeding it made no difference.. It was a forlorn hope as I was sure =
I=E2=80=99d not lost any fluid but miracles are always welcome.

=20

=20

Before removing the new clutch I played around with the AH Spares =
plastic alignment tool and my spare shaft. Both went in without any =
trouble but I suppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=99d been =
miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in the gearbox just as =
it should.

=20

See attached file=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Seems to me that the old clutch was =
in pretty good shape and, with benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might =
have left well alone! It=E2=80=99s been in there for 27 years that I =
know of. There were/are a few discrepancies between the old and new =
clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=99t think these would matter????

=20

Are there any obvious steps that I might have missed? Obvious, but, =
seemingly, not to me!

=20

I haven=E2=80=99t taken out the flywheel. Didn=E2=80=99t see why? =
It=E2=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s straight/vertical and works.

=20

People state a preference for alignment with a spare shaft rather than =
the black plastic tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be somewhat =
more precise, but harder to use surely?=20

=20

I=E2=80=99m reluctant to reinstall and just repeat the whole sorry =
process=E2=80=A6.

=20

Any suggestion?

=20

Thanks,

Simon

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I agree with Richard =E2=80=93 I go =
through the same =E2=80=9Cmicro=E2=80=9D centering =
process.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> richard mayor =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> September 26, 2021 12:39 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]; Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New =
Clutch query<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>One suggestion:&nbsp; When you use the centering tool =
(plastic or otherwise), tilt the tool all the way up then all the way =
down, then do the same from side to side, then split the difference with =
the tool in place when you tighten the pressure plate bolts.&nbsp; I =
personally go through this routine at least 2 or 3 times to make sure I =
am as close to the center position as =
possible.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>One question: Why do you think the metal input shaft =
is harder to use than the plastic tool?&nbsp;&nbsp; The input shaft is =
much longer than the plastic tool and you can get a better feel for =
finding the center position when moving it through its range of motion =
as you align the disc. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>To revert to the problem I=E2=80=99ve being having with my =
gearbox not wanting to reinstall to my new =
clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Bleeding it made no difference.. It was a forlorn hope as I =
was sure I=E2=80=99d not lost any fluid but miracles are always =
welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>The gearbox is on the workshop floor as is the new =
clutch.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Before removing the new clutch I played around with the AH =
Spares plastic alignment tool and my spare shaft. Both went in without =
any trouble but I suppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=99d =
been miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in the gearbox =
just as it should.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>See attached file=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Seems to me that the old =
clutch was in pretty good shape and, with benefit of 20/20 hindsight, =
one might have left well alone! It=E2=80=99s been in there for 27 years =
that I know of. There were/are a few discrepancies between the old and =
new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=99t think these would =
matter????<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Are there any obvious steps that I might have missed? =
Obvious, but, seemingly, not to me!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I haven=E2=80=99t taken out the flywheel. Didn=E2=80=99t =
see why? It=E2=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s straight/vertical and =
works.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>People state a preference for alignment with a spare shaft =
rather than the black plastic tool. I can see that the metal shaft might =
be somewhat more precise, but harder to use surely? =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I=E2=80=99m reluctant to reinstall and just repeat the =
whole sorry process=E2=80=A6.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Any suggestion?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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Simon, you seemed to have covered all the bases.  Again respectfully, =
how are so sure that nothing is binding on the pilot bush?  I am not =
sure the best way to check it but if possible, if you can remove it and =
actually slide it onto the output shaft on the g=E2=80=99box, that would =
be best.  If the bush is firmly in there (and it usually is!), I suggest =
you might offer up the gearbox to the engine without the clutch in place =
and see if it slides in easily and that you can get the bell housing all =
the way up to the rear engine plate.  That is a lot more work, but would =
absolutely rule out any issue with the pilot bush.=20

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I assume that the throw bearing is in good shape and moves easily in the =
fork of the clutch arm.  I am grasping at straws now!

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As others have said, I spend a lot of time checking the gap between the =
bell housing and the engine plate when I am putting a g=E2=80=99box back =
to ensure it is even all the way around and the g=E2=80=99box goes in =
perfectly square.

=20

Wish I were closer, I=E2=80=99d gladly lend a hand.

=20

I just have a few last things to put back on my motor and Michael and I =
are going to start it up after a fresh rebuild, hopefully Wednesday.

=20

Cheers, Mirek

=20

From: [email-masked] =
<[email-masked]>=20
Sent: September 27, 2021 8:43 AM
To: 'richard mayor' <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]; 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] New Clutch query

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon, you seemed to have covered =
all the bases.=C2=A0 Again respectfully, how are so sure that nothing is =
binding on the pilot bush?=C2=A0 I am not sure the best way to check it =
but if possible, if you can remove it and actually slide it onto the =
output shaft on the g=E2=80=99box, that would be best.=C2=A0 If the bush =
is firmly in there (and it usually is!), I suggest you might offer up =
the gearbox to the engine <u>without</u> the clutch in place and see if =
it slides in easily and that you can get the bell housing all the way up =
to the rear engine plate.=C2=A0 That is a lot more work, but would =
absolutely rule out any issue with the pilot bush. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I assume =
that the throw bearing is in good shape and moves easily in the fork of =
the clutch arm.=C2=A0 I am grasping at straws =
now!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As others =
have said, I spend a lot of time checking the gap between the bell =
housing and the engine plate when I am putting a g=E2=80=99box back to =
ensure it is even all the way around and the g=E2=80=99box goes in =
perfectly square.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Wish I were =
closer, I=E2=80=99d gladly lend a hand.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I just have =
a few last things to put back on my motor and Michael and I are going to =
start it up after a fresh rebuild, hopefully =
Wednesday.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers, =
Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> =
[email-masked] =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> September 27, =
2021 8:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'richard mayor' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]; =
'Healeys' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: =
[Healeys] New Clutch query<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thank you everybody for your =
replies. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Richard=E2=80=99s advice as to =
centering the clutch by moving the alignment tool back and forth, =
up/down seems very sensible and I=E2=80=99ll try =
that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I said that I thought the black =
plastic alignment tool was easier to use than the shaft because, with =
plastic tool, one can plug the clutch plate to the flywheel then wind on =
the cover as no part of the tool is wider than the hole in the centre of =
the cover. With the shaft, one has to put it through cover and clutch =
plate and then fight the pair up and onto the flywheel. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Two people found (very!) polite =
ways of asking if I=E2=80=99d put the clutch plate on backwards. Sadly =
not; that might have produced an instant cure. I=E2=80=99m way past =
being offended by such questions. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nothing is binding in the spigot =
bush/pilot bearing. Another instant cure missed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>No slop in the&nbsp; clutch lever =
bushings. The slave=E2=80=99s push rod and clevis pin were in a bad way =
although that had not&nbsp; -&nbsp;&nbsp; previously =E2=80=93 impinged. =
I=E2=80=99ve ordered new ones anyhow.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel =
bolts and used them at 11:00 and 17:30. (Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got =
on file an email, 11 June =E2=80=9902, of Michael=E2=80=99s in which he =
makes reference to the importance attached to these bolts as a =
=E2=80=9Ctempest in a teapot=E2=80=9D. His maths makes perfect sense, as =
you=E2=80=99d expect, but I=E2=80=99ll be sure to put them in per the =
book).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I did have a jack under the engine =
and will again. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Barring anything new received from =
you guys, I=E2=80=99ll just have to try again, paying great attention to =
the plate being centred and the engine/gearbox being at compatible =
angles.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>No attempt today as son-in-law is =
at work! It is definitely a task where an Arnie-lookalike is extremely =
useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
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Since we're grasping at input shafts, er, straws ... Did you lube the 
splines with anything? I know it's a slight risk given grease could be 
slung onto the disk or cover plate--although engine oil will likely end 
up in the vicinity sooner or later--I've always done it with no issues 
(if anybody cares, my favorite product for things like this is Redline's 
wheel bearing grease).

I'm probably wrong, but I don't think 'centering' is the issue, as I 
think Simon was probably pretty careful about it, and I've never heard 
of anybody having trouble with a centering tool or input shaft.

On 9/27/2021 8:02 AM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> I agree with Richard – I go through the same “micro” centering process.
>
> *From:*richard mayor <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* September 26, 2021 12:39 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Cc:* [email-masked]; Healeys <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query
>
> One suggestion:  When you use the centering tool (plastic or 
> otherwise), tilt the tool all the way up then all the way down, then 
> do the same from side to side, then split the difference with the tool 
> in place when you tighten the pressure plate bolts.  I personally go 
> through this routine at least 2 or 3 times to make sure I am as close 
> to the center position as possible.
>
> One question: Why do you think the metal input shaft is harder to use 
> than the plastic tool?   The input shaft is much longer than the 
> plastic tool and you can get a better feel for finding the center 
> position when moving it through its range of motion as you align the 
> disc.
>
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys 
>
>     To revert to the problem I’ve being having with my gearbox not
>     wanting to reinstall to my new clutch……
>
>     Bleeding it made no difference.. It was a forlorn hope as I was
>     sure I’d not lost any fluid but miracles are always welcome.
>
>     Before removing the new clutch I played around with the AH Spares
>     plastic alignment tool and my spare shaft. Both went in without
>     any trouble but I suppose they would have anyhow unless they’d
>     been miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in the
>     gearbox just as it should.
>
>     See attached file……Seems to me that the old clutch was in pretty
>     good shape and, with benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have
>     left well alone! It’s been in there for 27 years that I know of.
>     There were/are a few discrepancies between the old and new
>     clutches. See attached. I don’t think these would matter????
>
>     Are there any obvious steps that I might have missed? Obvious,
>     but, seemingly, not to me!
>
>     I haven’t taken out the flywheel. Didn’t see why? It’s in; it’s
>     People state a preference for alignment with a spare shaft rather
>     than the black plastic tool. I can see that the metal shaft might
>     be somewhat more precise, but harder to use surely?
>
>     I’m reluctant to reinstall and just repeat the whole sorry process….
>
>     Any suggestion?
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Simon
>
>

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    Since we're grasping at input shafts, er, straws ... Did you lube
    the splines with anything? I know it's a slight risk given grease
    could be slung onto the disk or cover plate--although engine oil
    will likely end up in the vicinity sooner or later--I've always done
    it with no issues (if anybody cares, my favorite product for things
    like this is Redline's wheel bearing grease).<br>
    <br>
    I'm probably wrong, but I don't think 'centering' is the issue, as I
    think Simon was probably pretty careful about it, and I've never
    heard of anybody having trouble with a centering tool or input
    shaft.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/27/2021 8:02 AM, m.g.sharp--- via
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            agree with Richard – I go through the same “micro” centering
            process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
              lang="EN-US"> richard mayor <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
              <br>
              <b>Sent:</b> September 26, 2021 12:39 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
              <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; Healeys
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">One suggestion:  When you use the
              centering tool (plastic or otherwise), tilt the tool all
              the way up then all the way down, then do the same from
              side to side, then split the difference with the tool in
              place when you tighten the pressure plate bolts.  I
              personally go through this routine at least 2 or 3 times
              to make sure I am as close to the center position as
              possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">One question: Why do you think the
              metal input shaft is harder to use than the plastic
              tool?   The input shaft is much longer than the plastic
              tool and you can get a better feel for finding the center
              position when moving it through its range of motion as you
              align the disc. <o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon
              Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a
                href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">To revert to the problem I’ve being
                    having with my gearbox not wanting to reinstall to
                    my new clutch……<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">Bleeding it made no difference.. It was
                    a forlorn hope as I was sure I’d not lost any fluid
                    but miracles are always welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">The gearbox is on the workshop floor as
                    is the new clutch.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">Before removing the new clutch I played
                    around with the AH Spares plastic alignment tool and
                    my spare shaft. Both went in without any trouble but
                    I suppose they would have anyhow unless they’d been
                    miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in
                    the gearbox just as it should.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">See attached file……Seems to me that the
                    old clutch was in pretty good shape and, with
                    benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well
                    alone! It’s been in there for 27 years that I know
                    of. There were/are a few discrepancies between the
                    old and new clutches. See attached. I don’t think
                    these would matter????<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">Are there any obvious steps that I
                    might have missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not to
                    me!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">I haven’t taken out the flywheel.
                    Didn’t see why? It’s in; it’s straight/vertical and
                    works.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">People state a preference for alignment
                    with a spare shaft rather than the black plastic
                    tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be
                    somewhat more precise, but harder to use surely? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">I’m reluctant to reinstall and just
                    repeat the whole sorry process….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">Any suggestion?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-GB">Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: richard mayor <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query
To: <[email-masked]>

Simon,

You can present the clutch and cover to the flywheel using the plastic
tool.  Tighten the cover just enough to hold the disc....... remove the
plastic tool ......then insert the metal input shaft, loosen the bolt,
finish the alignment and tighten the bolts.

Another aid is to put an old fan belt around the back the transmission. One
of you can then easily lift or lower the back end of the transmission to
make things line up.

When I do it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of the cylinder head
between it and the firewall.  Because the engine is well balanced on its
motor mounts it does not put much pressure on the firewall.  It will do no
damage.  The engine in this position is well suited to receive the
transmission.  I then use the floor jack to get the front of the
transmision to the right level. Then you can guide the tranny forward using
the fan belt to raise or lower the rear of the transmission.   Make sure
the transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output flange as
needed to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up.  I have used
this method many times with success doing it all by myself.  Take your time
and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never let the weight of
the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch.  Use the floor jact to
support the weight of the transmission at all times.

Richard

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 5:43 AM <[email-masked]> wrote:

>
>
> Thank you everybody for your replies.
>
>
>
> Richard=E2=80=99s advice as to centering the clutch by moving the alignme=
nt tool
> back and forth, up/down seems very sensible and I=E2=80=99ll try that.
>
>
>
> I said that I thought the black plastic alignment tool was easier to use
to
> the flywheel then wind on the cover as no part of the tool is wider than
> the hole in the centre of the cover. With the shaft, one has to put it
> through cover and clutch plate and then fight the pair up and onto the
> flywheel.
>
>
>
> Two people found (very!) polite ways of asking if I=E2=80=99d put the clu=
tch plate
> on backwards. Sadly not; that might have produced an instant cure. I=E2=
=80=99m way
> past being offended by such questions.
>
>
>
> Nothing is binding in the spigot bush/pilot bearing. Another instant cure
> missed.
>
>
>
> No slop in the  clutch lever bushings. The slave=E2=80=99s push rod and c=
levis pin
> were in a bad way although that had not  -   previously =E2=80=93 impinge=
d. I=E2=80=99ve
> ordered new ones anyhow.
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel bolts and used them at 11:00 and 17:30.
> (Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got on file an email, 11 June =E2=80=9902, of=
 Michael=E2=80=99s in
> which he makes reference to the importance attached to these bolts as a
you=E2=80=99d expect, but
> I=E2=80=99ll be sure to put them in per the book).
>
>
>
> I did have a jack under the engine and will again.
>
>
>
> Barring anything new received from you guys, I=E2=80=99ll just have to tr=
y again,
> paying great attention to the plate being centred and the engine/gearbox
> being at compatible angles.
>
>
>
> No attempt today as son-in-law is at work! It is definitely a task where

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <b class=3D=
"gmail_sendername" dir=3D"auto">richard mayor</b> <span dir=3D"auto">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span>=
<br>Date: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:22 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch=
 query<br>To:  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">sim=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv>Simon,</div><div><br></div><div>You can present the clutch and cover to =
the flywheel using the plastic tool.=C2=A0 Tighten the cover just enough to=
 hold the disc....... remove the plastic tool ......then insert the metal i=
nput shaft, loosen the bolt, finish the alignment and tighten the bolts. <b=
r></div><div><br></div><div>Another aid is to put an old fan belt around th=
e back the transmission. One of you can then easily lift or lower the back =
end of the transmission to make things line up.</div><div><br></div><div>Wh=
en I do it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of the cylinder head between=
 it and the firewall.=C2=A0 Because the engine is well balanced on its moto=
r mounts it does not put much pressure on the firewall.=C2=A0 It will do no=
 damage.=C2=A0 The engine in this position is well suited to receive the tr=
ansmission.=C2=A0 I then use the floor jack to get the front of the transmi=
sion to the right level. Then you can guide the tranny forward using the fa=
n belt to raise or lower the rear of the transmission.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Make sur=
e the transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output flange as nee=
ded to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up.=C2=A0 I have used=
 this method many times with success doing it all by myself.=C2=A0 Take you=
r time and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never let the we=
ight of the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch.=C2=A0 Use the =
floor jact to support the weight of the transmission at all times. <br></di=
v><div><br></div><div>Richard<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 5:43 AM &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">simo=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Thank y=
ou everybody for your replies. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Richa=
rd=E2=80=99s advice as to centering the clutch by moving the alignment tool=
 back and forth, up/down seems very sensible and I=E2=80=99ll try that.<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I said that I thought the black plastic =
alignment tool was easier to use than the shaft because, with plastic tool,=
 one can plug the clutch plate to the flywheel then wind on the cover as no=
 part of the tool is wider than the hole in the centre of the cover. With t=
he shaft, one has to put it through cover and clutch plate and then fight t=
he pair up and onto the flywheel. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Tw=
o people found (very!) polite ways of asking if I=E2=80=99d put the clutch =
plate on backwards. Sadly not; that might have produced an instant cure. I=
=E2=80=99m way past being offended by such questions. <u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span>Nothing is binding in the spigot bush/pilot bearing. Anot=
her instant cure missed.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>No slop in t=
he=C2=A0 clutch lever bushings. The slave=E2=80=99s push rod and clevis pin=
 were in a bad way although that had not=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0 previously =E2=
=80=93 impinged. I=E2=80=99ve ordered new ones anyhow.<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span>I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel bolts and used them at 11:=
00 and 17:30. (Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got on file an email, 11 June =E2=
=80=9902, of Michael=E2=80=99s in which he makes reference to the importanc=
e attached to these bolts as a =E2=80=9Ctempest in a teapot=E2=80=9D. His m=
aths makes perfect sense, as you=E2=80=99d expect, but I=E2=80=99ll be sure=
 to put them in per the book).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I did =
have a jack under the engine and will again. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span>Barring anything new received from you guys, I=E2=80=99ll just hav=
e to try again, paying great attention to the plate being centred and the e=
ngine/gearbox being at compatible angles.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span>No attempt today as son-in-law is at work! It is definitely a task wh=
ere an Arnie-lookalike is extremely useful.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span>Simon<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
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I=E2=80=99m just imagining if we were all there =
=E2=80=9Chelping=E2=80=9D Simon, the =E2=80=9Cdiscussions=E2=80=9D about =
what the best method is.  That would be good for at least one case of =
beer! LOL

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Mirek

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From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of richard =
mayor via Healeys
Sent: September 27, 2021 12:51 PM
To: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query

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From: richard mayor <[email-masked] =
Date: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query
To: <[email-masked] =

=20

Simon,

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You can present the clutch and cover to the flywheel using the plastic =
tool.  Tighten the cover just enough to hold the disc....... remove the =
plastic tool ......then insert the metal input shaft, loosen the bolt, =
finish the alignment and tighten the bolts.=20

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Another aid is to put an old fan belt around the back the transmission. =
One of you can then easily lift or lower the back end of the =
transmission to make things line up.

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When I do it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of the cylinder head =
between it and the firewall.  Because the engine is well balanced on its =
motor mounts it does not put much pressure on the firewall.  It will do =
no damage.  The engine in this position is well suited to receive the =
transmission.  I then use the floor jack to get the front of the =
transmision to the right level. Then you can guide the tranny forward =
using the fan belt to raise or lower the rear of the transmission.   =
Make sure the transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output =
flange as needed to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up.  =
I have used this method many times with success doing it all by myself.  =
Take your time and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never =
let the weight of the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch.  =
Use the floor jact to support the weight of the transmission at all =
times.=20

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Richard

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I=E2=80=99m just imagining if we =
were all there =E2=80=9Chelping=E2=80=9D Simon, the =
=E2=80=9Cdiscussions=E2=80=9D about what the best method is.=C2=A0 That =
would be good for at least one case of beer! LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>richard mayor =
via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> September 27, 2021 12:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Fwd: =
New Clutch query<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: =
<b>richard mayor</b> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Da=
te: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:22 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch =
query<br>To: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Simon,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>You can present the clutch and cover to the flywheel =
using the plastic tool.&nbsp; Tighten the cover just enough to hold the =
disc....... remove the plastic tool ......then insert the metal input =
shaft, loosen the bolt, finish the alignment and tighten the bolts. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Another aid is to put an old fan belt around the back =
the transmission. One of you can then easily lift or lower the back end =
of the transmission to make things line up.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>When I do it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of =
the cylinder head between it and the firewall.&nbsp; Because the engine =
is well balanced on its motor mounts it does not put much pressure on =
the firewall.&nbsp; It will do no damage.&nbsp; The engine in this =
position is well suited to receive the transmission.&nbsp; I then use =
the floor jack to get the front of the transmision to the right level. =
Then you can guide the tranny forward using the fan belt to raise or =
lower the rear of the transmission.&nbsp;&nbsp; Make sure the =
transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output flange as needed =
to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up.&nbsp; I have used =
this method many times with success doing it all by myself.&nbsp; Take =
your time and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never let =
the weight of the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch.&nbsp; =
Use the floor jact to support the weight of the transmission at all =
times. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Richard<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 5:43 AM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Thank you everybody for your replies. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Richard=E2=80=99s advice as to centering the clutch by =
moving the alignment tool back and forth, up/down seems very sensible =
and I=E2=80=99ll try that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I said that I thought the black plastic alignment tool was =
easier to use than the shaft because, with plastic tool, one can plug =
the clutch plate to the flywheel then wind on the cover as no part of =
the tool is wider than the hole in the centre of the cover. With the =
shaft, one has to put it through cover and clutch plate and then fight =
the pair up and onto the flywheel. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Two people found (very!) polite ways of asking if =
I=E2=80=99d put the clutch plate on backwards. Sadly not; that might =
have produced an instant cure. I=E2=80=99m way past being offended by =
such questions. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Nothing is binding in the spigot bush/pilot bearing. =
Another instant cure missed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>No slop in the&nbsp; clutch lever bushings. The =
slave=E2=80=99s push rod and clevis pin were in a bad way although that =
had not&nbsp; -&nbsp;&nbsp; previously =E2=80=93 impinged. I=E2=80=99ve =
ordered new ones anyhow.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel bolts and used them at 11:00 =
and 17:30. (Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got on file an email, 11 June =
=E2=80=9902, of Michael=E2=80=99s in which he makes reference to the =
importance attached to these bolts as a =E2=80=9Ctempest in a =
teapot=E2=80=9D. His maths makes perfect sense, as you=E2=80=99d expect, =
but I=E2=80=99ll be sure to put them in per the =
book).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I did have a jack under the engine and will again. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Barring anything new received from you guys, I=E2=80=99ll =
just have to try again, paying great attention to the plate being =
centred and the engine/gearbox being at compatible =
angles.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>No attempt today as son-in-law is at work! It is definitely =
a task where an Arnie-lookalike is extremely =
useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><=
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You=E2=80=99d all be very welcome! I think, in the circumstances, that I =
could find something better. Mind you, we have pretty decent beer around =
here. Ale, I think you guys would call it. =E2=80=9CDoom Bar=E2=80=9D is =
one of the local favourites. It=E2=80=99s not that strong but it does =
sneak up on one after a few pints.

Simon

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via Healeys
Sent: 27 September 2021 18:26
To: 'richard mayor' <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query

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Mirek

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From: Healeys <[email-masked] =
Healeys
Sent: September 27, 2021 12:51 PM
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query
To: <[email-masked] =

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Simon,

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>You=E2=80=99d all be very welcome! =
I think, in the circumstances, that I could find something better. Mind =
you, we have pretty decent beer around here. Ale, I think you guys would =
call it. =E2=80=9CDoom Bar=E2=80=9D is one of the local favourites. =
It=E2=80=99s not that strong but it does sneak up on one after a few =
pints.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>m.g.sharp--- =
via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 27 September 2021 18:26<br><b>To:</b> =
'richard mayor' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New =
Clutch query<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I=E2=80=99m just =
imagining if we were all there =E2=80=9Chelping=E2=80=9D Simon, the =
=E2=80=9Cdiscussions=E2=80=9D about what the best method is.&nbsp; That =
would be good for at least one case of beer! LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>richard mayor via =
Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> September 27, 2021 12:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch =
query<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>---------- Forwarded message =
---------<br>From: <b>richard mayor</b> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Da=
te: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:22 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch =
query<br>To: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Simon,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>You can present the clutch and =
cover to the flywheel using the plastic tool.&nbsp; Tighten the cover =
just enough to hold the disc....... remove the plastic tool ......then =
insert the metal input shaft, loosen the bolt, finish the alignment and =
tighten the bolts. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>Another aid is to put an old fan =
belt around the back the transmission. One of you can then easily lift =
or lower the back end of the transmission to make things line =
up.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>When I do it, I place a piece of =
2x4 at the back of the cylinder head between it and the firewall.&nbsp; =
Because the engine is well balanced on its motor mounts it does not put =
much pressure on the firewall.&nbsp; It will do no damage.&nbsp; The =
engine in this position is well suited to receive the =
transmission.&nbsp; I then use the floor jack to get the front of the =
transmision to the right level. Then you can guide the tranny forward =
using the fan belt to raise or lower the rear of the =
transmission.&nbsp;&nbsp; Make sure the transmission is in gear so you =
can turn the rear output flange as needed to get the clutch and input =
shaft splines to line up.&nbsp; I have used this method many times with =
success doing it all by myself.&nbsp; Take your time and with a bit of =
finesse it should slide right in. Never let the weight of the =
transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch.&nbsp; Use the floor =
jact to support the weight of the transmission at all times. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 5:43 AM =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
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.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you =
everybody for your replies. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Richard=E2=80=
=99s advice as to centering the clutch by moving the alignment tool back =
and forth, up/down seems very sensible and I=E2=80=99ll try =
that.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I said that =
I thought the black plastic alignment tool was easier to use than the =
shaft because, with plastic tool, one can plug the clutch plate to the =
flywheel then wind on the cover as no part of the tool is wider than the =
hole in the centre of the cover. With the shaft, one has to put it =
through cover and clutch plate and then fight the pair up and onto the =
flywheel. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Two people =
found (very!) polite ways of asking if I=E2=80=99d put the clutch plate =
on backwards. Sadly not; that might have produced an instant cure. =
I=E2=80=99m way past being offended by such questions. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Nothing is =
binding in the spigot bush/pilot bearing. Another instant cure =
missed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No slop in =
the&nbsp; clutch lever bushings. The slave=E2=80=99s push rod and clevis =
pin were in a bad way although that had not&nbsp; -&nbsp;&nbsp; =
previously =E2=80=93 impinged. I=E2=80=99ve ordered new ones =
anyhow.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I=E2=80=99ve=
 got the two dowel bolts and used them at 11:00 and 17:30. =
(Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got on file an email, 11 June =E2=80=9902, =
of Michael=E2=80=99s in which he makes reference to the importance =
attached to these bolts as a =E2=80=9Ctempest in a teapot=E2=80=9D. His =
maths makes perfect sense, as you=E2=80=99d expect, but I=E2=80=99ll be =
sure to put them in per the book).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I did have =
a jack under the engine and will again. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Barring =
anything new received from you guys, I=E2=80=99ll just have to try =
again, paying great attention to the plate being centred and the =
engine/gearbox being at compatible angles.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No attempt =
today as son-in-law is at work! It is definitely a task where an =
Arnie-lookalike is extremely useful.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 00:28:54 +0100

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OK Richard, I get that. I=E2=80=99ve been over zealous but no harm.

I do confess to, perhaps, being overly obsessed with =
=E2=80=9Ccentring=E2=80=9D. I=E2=80=99ve been sitting on the cold garage =
floor with my head, at a most uncomfortable height, where the gearbox =
would sit. I=E2=80=99ve been lining it all up by eye. Hard to =
explain=E2=80=A6..stick the black nylon thing in and try to centre it, =
by eye, within the circle at the centre of the =E2=80=9Cplate =E2=80=93 =
release lever=E2=80=9D (Thing held in by three metal clips). Idea being =
to keep the circumference of the nylon equidistant all the way round =
with the plate=E2=80=99s centre. If you see what I mean.

What, I think, was happening was that the plate would move slightly off =
centre as the bolts were tightened up. One time, I got them precisely =
equidistant, but the shaft would not go in and out. I=E2=80=99ve =
reverted to my previous method which was to tighten up the bolts, little =
by little, whilst constantly checking the shaft for perfect in/out =
movement.

By that method, at least, it=E2=80=99s perfectly aligned and I just =
await another pair of hands. Tomorrow, maybe.

I shall support it underneath if I can. Hopefully with a trolley jack. =
It=E2=80=99s at an awkward height for that and that=E2=80=99ll be =
tricky.

Thanks for your input,

Simon

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Since you are doing it the right way, that is, a few turns at each time =
on each bolt, then it doesn't matter if you go criss-cross or 1,2 3. 4 =
etc.  It's not like a wheel that must be centered using special tapered =
nuts. A clutch cover is a big spring. It does not have to be "centered" =
.... just clamped down uniformly. =20

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On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 1:57 AM <[email-masked] =

I=E2=80=99ve been doing it as one does a road wheel=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12 =
o=E2=80=99clock, 6 o=E2=80=99clock , 9 o=E2=80=99clock, 3 =
o=E2=80=99clock etcetc. Progressively, round and round about one turn at =
a time. Using the progress of the dowels as a reference.

Are you suggesting to, say, start at 12 then to 1, to 2 etcetc? =
Progressively around the flywheel??

An interesting difference. I could start at the area from which =
=E2=80=93 I think =E2=80=93 the plate moves slightly off =
centre=E2=80=A6.

Simon

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[email-masked]>=20
Sent: 28 September 2021 02:12
[email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query

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When you tighten the cover bolts are you doing it progressively?  That =
is, tighten each one a bit at a time as you move around the bolt circle? =
 That's the way to do it.=20

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On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:56 PM <[email-masked] =

Richard,

Hi. Thanks for this.

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*	Yes, I did work that out. And put it into practise. I reckon that I =
was almost there when one of the three little springs in the centre of =
the housing sprang out. So I had to take it all out and start again. No =
worry as I=E2=80=99m getting a lot of practise.
*	One thing=E2=80=A6..I get it centralized when it=E2=80=99s all loose =
but, as I tighten the bolts, opposite after opposite, it seems to move =
off centre by about 2mm. Always to the same place. It=E2=80=99s a =
mystery as I=E2=80=99d guess I get it pretty tight before it starts to =
move. ie, it moves when it shouldn=E2=80=99t be able to. Or does it? =
Maybe the plate is staying still but the centre of the housing shifts as =
the springs tighten up.
*	I=E2=80=99ve the car up on ramps so can sit on the floor with my head =
sticking up where the gearbox would sit. PITA getting in and out, but =
effective. See pic.

*	I use an old heavy lifting sling which achieves the same thing

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transmission.

*    I=E2=80=99ve got a piece of scaffolding plank under the sump. About =
12=E2=80=9D by 8=E2=80=9D by 2.5=E2=80=9D. I will be paying huge =
attention to the relative levels of engine and gearbox.

  I then use the floor jack to get the front of the transmision to the =
right level. Then you can guide the tranny forward using the fan belt to =
raise or lower the rear of the transmission.   Make sure the =
transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output flange as needed =
to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up.  I have used this =
method many times with success doing it all by myself.  Take your time =
and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never let the weight =
of the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch.  Use the floor =
jact to support the weight of the transmission at all times.=20

*	I will. For sure.

Thanks again,

Simon

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>OK Richard, I get that. =
I=E2=80=99ve been over zealous but no harm.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I do =
confess to, perhaps, being overly obsessed with =
=E2=80=9Ccentring=E2=80=9D. I=E2=80=99ve been sitting on the cold garage =
floor with my head, at a most uncomfortable height, where the gearbox =
would sit. I=E2=80=99ve been lining it all up by eye. Hard to =
explain=E2=80=A6..stick the black nylon thing in and try to centre it, =
by eye, within the circle at the centre of the =E2=80=9Cplate =E2=80=93 =
release lever=E2=80=9D (Thing held in by three metal clips). Idea being =
to keep the circumference of the nylon equidistant all the way round =
with the plate=E2=80=99s centre. If you see what I =
mean.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What, I think, was happening was =
that the plate would move slightly off centre as the bolts were =
tightened up. One time, I got them precisely equidistant, but the shaft =
would not go in and out. I=E2=80=99ve reverted to my previous method =
which was to tighten up the bolts, little by little, whilst constantly =
checking the shaft for perfect in/out movement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>By that =
method, at least, it=E2=80=99s perfectly aligned and I just await =
another pair of hands. Tomorrow, maybe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I shall =
support it underneath if I can. Hopefully with a trolley jack. =
It=E2=80=99s at an awkward height for that and that=E2=80=99ll be =
tricky.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks for your =
input,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Since =
you are doing it the right way, that is, a few turns at each time on =
each bolt, then it doesn't matter if you go criss-cross or 1,2 3. 4 =
etc.&nbsp; It's not like a wheel that must be centered using special =
tapered nuts. A clutch cover is a big spring. It does not have to be =
&quot;centered&quot; .... just clamped down uniformly.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 1:57 AM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I=E2=80=99ve=
 been doing it as one does a road wheel=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12 =
o=E2=80=99clock, 6 o=E2=80=99clock , 9 o=E2=80=99clock, 3 =
o=E2=80=99clock etcetc. Progressively, round and round about one turn at =
a time. Using the progress of the dowels as a =
reference.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Are you =
suggesting to, say, start at 12 then to 1, to 2 etcetc? Progressively =
around the flywheel??<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>An =
interesting difference. I could start at the area from which =E2=80=93 I =
think =E2=80=93 the plate moves slightly off =
centre=E2=80=A6.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Simon<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> richard mayor =
&lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[email-masked]</span></a><span lang=3DEN-US>&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> 28 September 2021 02:12<br><b>To:</b> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
lang=3DEN-US>[email-masked]</span></a><span =
lang=3DEN-US><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch =
query</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>When you =
tighten the cover bolts are you doing it progressively?&nbsp; That is, =
tighten each one a bit at a time as you move around the bolt =
circle?&nbsp; That's the way to do it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Sep =
27, 2021 at 1:56 PM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm =
0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor =
rgb(204,204,204)'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Richard,<o:p=
></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi. Thanks =
for this.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You can =
present the clutch and cover to the flywheel using the plastic =
tool.&nbsp; Tighten the cover just enough to hold the disc....... remove =
the plastic tool ......then insert the metal input shaft, loosen the =
bolt, finish the alignment and tighten the bolts. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><ul type=3Ddisc><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph style=3D'mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3'>Yes, I did work that out. And put =
it into practise. I reckon that I was almost there when one of the three =
little springs in the centre of the housing sprang out. So I had to take =
it all out and start again. No worry as I=E2=80=99m getting a lot of =
practise.<o:p></o:p></li><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph style=3D'mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3'>One thing=E2=80=A6..I get it =
centralized when it=E2=80=99s all loose but, as I tighten the bolts, =
opposite after opposite, it seems to move off centre by about 2mm. =
Always to the same place. It=E2=80=99s a mystery as I=E2=80=99d guess I =
get it pretty tight before it starts to move. ie, it moves when it =
shouldn=E2=80=99t be able to. Or does it? Maybe the plate is staying =
still but the centre of the housing shifts as the springs tighten =
up.<o:p></o:p></li><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph style=3D'mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3'>I=E2=80=99ve the car up on ramps =
so can sit on the floor with my head sticking up where the gearbox would =
sit. PITA getting in and out, but effective. See =
pic.<o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Another aid =
is to put an old fan belt around the back the transmission. One of you =
can then easily lift or lower the back end of the transmission to make =
things line up.<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=3Ddisc><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6'>I use an old heavy lifting sling =
which achieves the same thing<o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>When I do =
it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of the cylinder head between it =
and the firewall.&nbsp; Because the engine is well balanced on its motor =
mounts it does not put much pressure on the firewall.&nbsp; It will do =
no damage.&nbsp; The engine in this position is well suited to receive =
the transmission.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph><span style=3D'font-family:Wingdings'>=C3=98</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>I=E2=80=99ve got a piece of =
scaffolding plank under the sump. About 12=E2=80=9D by 8=E2=80=9D by =
2.5=E2=80=9D. I will be paying huge attention to the relative levels of =
engine and gearbox.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp; I =
then use the floor jack to get the front of the transmision to the right =
level. Then you can guide the tranny forward using the fan belt to raise =
or lower the rear of the transmission.&nbsp;&nbsp; Make sure the =
transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output flange as needed =
to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up.&nbsp; I have used =
this method many times with success doing it all by myself.&nbsp; Take =
your time and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never let =
the weight of the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch.&nbsp; =
Use the floor jact to support the weight of the transmission at all =
times. <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=3Ddisc><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph style=3D'mso-list:l4 level1 lfo9'>I will. For =
sure.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph>Thanks again,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph>Simon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 07:23:18 -0400 (EDT)

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Speaking of putting something on the splines--------do any of you coat the =
splines with permatex after inserting a new oil seal in the rear of your tr=
anny shaft?
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 11:20:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query

 like this is Redline's wheel bearing grease).

 shaft.

On 9/27/2021 8:02 AM, m.g.sharp--- via
 Healeys wrote:
I
 agree with Richard =E2=80=93 I go through the same =E2=80=9Cmicro=E2=80=9D=
 centering
 process. From: richard mayor <[email-masked]>
Sent: September 26, 2021 12:39 PM
To:[email-masked]
Cc:[email-masked]; Healeys
 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query One suggestion:  When you use the
 centering tool (plastic or otherwise), tilt the tool all
 the way up then all the way down, then do the same from
 side to side, then split the difference with the tool in
 place when you tighten the pressure plate bolts.  I
 personally go through this routine at least 2 or 3 times
 to make sure I am as close to the center position as
 possible. One question: Why do you think the
 metal input shaft is harder to use than the plastic
 tool?   The input shaft is much longer than the plastic
 tool and you can get a better feel for finding the center
 position when moving it through its range of motion as you
 align the disc. On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon
 Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
 wrote: To revert to the problem I=E2=80=99ve being
 having with my gearbox not wanting to reinstall to
 my new clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 Bleeding it made no difference.. It was
 a forlorn hope as I was sure I=E2=80=99d not lost any fluid
 but miracles are always welcome. The gearbox is on the workshop floor as
 is the new clutch. Before removing the new clutch I played
 around with the AH Spares plastic alignment tool and
 my spare shaft. Both went in without any trouble but
 I suppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=99d been
 miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in
 the gearbox just as it should. See attached file=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Seems to=
 me that the
 old clutch was in pretty good shape and, with
 benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well
 alone! It=E2=80=99s been in there for 27 years that I know
 of. There were/are a few discrepancies between the
 old and new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=99t think
 these would matter???? Are there any obvious steps that I
 might have missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not to
 me! I haven=E2=80=99t taken out the flywheel.
 Didn=E2=80=99t see why? It=E2=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s straight/vertical an=
d
 works. People state a preference for alignment
 with a spare shaft rather than the black plastic
 tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be
 somewhat more precise, but harder to use surely?  I=E2=80=99m reluctant to=
 reinstall and just
 repeat the whole sorry process=E2=80=A6. Any suggestion? Thanks,Simon

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<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font=
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 putting something on the splines--------do any of you coat the splines wit=
h permatex after inserting a new oil seal in the rear of your tranny shaft?=
</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Bob Spidell=
 &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: [email-masked]<br>Sent: Mon, 2=
7 Sep 2021 11:20:35 -0400 (EDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query<=
br></div><div><br></div><br> Since we're grasping at input shafts, er, stra=
ws ... Did you lube<br> the splines with anything? I know it's a slight ris=
k given grease<br> could be slung onto the disk or cover plate--although en=
gine oil<br> will likely end up in the vicinity sooner or later--I've alway=
s done<br> it with no issues (if anybody cares, my favorite product for thi=
ngs<br> like this is Redline's wheel bearing grease).<br><div><br></div><br=
> I'm probably wrong, but I don't think 'centering' is the issue, as I<br> =
think Simon was probably pretty careful about it, and I've never<br> heard =
of anybody having trouble with a centering tool or input<br> shaft.<br><div=
><br></div><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 9/27/2021 8:02 AM, m.g.sharp--=
- via<br> Healeys wrote:<br></div><blockquote cite=3D"mid:004901d7b3b0$a1db=
[email-masked]"><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-far=
east-language: EN-US;">I<br> agree with Richard =E2=80=93 I go through the =
same =E2=80=9Cmicro=E2=80=9D centering<br> process.</span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;" data-mce-style=3D"ms=
o-fareast-language: EN-US;">&nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"border: none; bo=
rder-top: solid #E1E1E1<br>          1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" da=
ta-mce-style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1<br>          1.0pt;=
 padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US=
">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> richard mayor <a class=3D"moz-txt-l=
ink-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-=
mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>=
<br><b>Sent:</b> September 26, 2021 12:39 PM<br><b>To:</b><a class=3D"moz-t=
xt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">si=
[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-a=
bbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-m=
ce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; Heale=
ys<br> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New Clutch=
 query</span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">One suggestion:&nbsp; When you use the<br> centering tool (p=
lastic or otherwise), tilt the tool all<br> the way up then all the way dow=
n, then do the same from<br> side to side, then split the difference with t=
he tool in<br> place when you tighten the pressure plate bolts.&nbsp; I<br>=
 personally go through this routine at least 2 or 3 times<br> to make sure =
I am as close to the center position as<br> possible.</p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One question: W=
hy do you think the<br> metal input shaft is harder to use than the plastic=
<br> tool?&nbsp;&nbsp; The input shaft is much longer than the plastic<br> =
tool and you can get a better feel for finding the center<br> position when=
 moving it through its range of motion as you<br> align the disc.</p></div>=
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On =
Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon<br> Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:hea=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br> wrote:</p></div><bl=
ockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #CCCCCC<br>            1=
.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm<br>            6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin=
-right: 0cm;" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #CCCCCC<br=
>            1.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm<br>            6.0pt; margin-left:=
 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-m=
argin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbs=
p;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-=
margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-m=
argin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">To revert to the problem I=E2=
=80=99ve being<br> having with my gearbox not wanting to reinstall to<br> m=
y new clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"ms=
o-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso=
-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&=
nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; m=
so-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Bleeding it made no differ=
ence.. It was<br> a forlorn hope as I was sure I=E2=80=99d not lost any flu=
id<br> but miracles are always welcome.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-sty=
le=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D=
"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt=
: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:=
 auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The gearbox is on=
 the workshop floor as<br> is the new clutch.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-m=
ce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-to=
p-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Before remo=
ving the new clutch I played<br> around with the AH Spares plastic alignmen=
t tool and<br> my spare shaft. Both went in without any trouble but<br> I s=
uppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=99d been<br> miles out?? Th=
e new clutch slides onto the shaft in<br> the gearbox just as it should.</s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin=
-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data=
-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-GB">See attached file=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Seems to me that the<br>=
 old clutch was in pretty good shape and, with<br> benefit of 20/20 hindsig=
ht, one might have left well<br> alone! It=E2=80=99s been in there for 27 y=
ears that I know<br> of. There were/are a few discrepancies between the<br>=
 old and new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=99t think<br> these would =
matter????</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: au=
to; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: aut=
o; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt=
: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
 auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Are there any obvious steps that I<br> might h=
ave missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not to<br> me!</span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" =
data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><=
span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-mar=
gin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I hav=
en=E2=80=99t taken out the flywheel.<br> Didn=E2=80=99t see why? It=E2=80=
=99s in; it=E2=80=99s straight/vertical and<br> works.</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: au=
to;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: aut=
o;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"m=
so-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"ms=
o-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=
People state a preference for alignment<br> with a spare shaft rather than =
the black plastic<br> tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be<br> som=
ewhat more precise, but harder to use surely? </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-=
mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-=
top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I=E2=80=99=
m reluctant to reinstall and just<br> repeat the whole sorry process=E2=80=
=A6.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso=
-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: au=
to;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: aut=
o;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Any suggestion?</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-st=
yle=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-=
alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-a=
lt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Thanks,</span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bo=
ttom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bot=
tom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Simon</span></p></div></div><br></bloc=
kquote></div></div></blockquote><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></=
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 11:20:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query

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<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font=
-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}</style></head><body><div>Speaking of=
 putting something on the splines--------do any of you coat the splines wit=
h permatex after inserting a new oil seal in the rear of your tranny shaft?=
</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Bob Spidell=
 &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: [email-masked]<br>Sent: Mon, 2=
7 Sep 2021 11:20:35 -0400 (EDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query<=
br></div><div><br></div><div><br> Since we're grasping at input shafts, er,=
 straws ... Did you lube<br> the splines with anything? I know it's a sligh=
t risk given grease<br> could be slung onto the disk or cover plate--althou=
gh engine oil<br> will likely end up in the vicinity sooner or later--I've =
always done<br> it with no issues (if anybody cares, my favorite product fo=
r things<br> like this is Redline's wheel bearing grease).<br></div><div><b=
r></div><div><br> I'm probably wrong, but I don't think 'centering' is the =
issue, as I<br> think Simon was probably pretty careful about it, and I've =
never<br> heard of anybody having trouble with a centering tool or input<br=
> shaft.<br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 9/27/202=
1 8:02 AM, m.g.sharp--- via<br> Healeys wrote:<br></div><blockquote cite=3D=
"mid:[email-masked]"><div class=3D"WordSectio=
n1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;" dat=
a-mce-style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">I<br> agree with Richard =E2=
=80=93 I go through the same =E2=80=9Cmicro=E2=80=9D centering<br> process.=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-U=
S;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;">&nbsp;</span></p><div s=
tyle=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1<br>          1.0pt; padding=
: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1=
E1E1<br>          1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> richard may=
or <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;boyra=
[email-masked]&gt;</a><br><b>Sent:</b> September 26, 2021 12:39 PM<br><b>=
To:</b><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@a=
lexarevel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan=
@alexarevel.plus.com">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b><a=
 class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">m.g.sharp=
@sympatico.ca</a>; Healeys<br> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:hea=
[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query</span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp=
;</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One suggestion:&nbsp; When you use th=
e<br> centering tool (plastic or otherwise), tilt the tool all<br> the way =
up then all the way down, then do the same from<br> side to side, then spli=
t the difference with the tool in<br> place when you tighten the pressure p=
late bolts.&nbsp; I<br> personally go through this routine at least 2 or 3 =
times<br> to make sure I am as close to the center position as<br> possible=
.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">One question: Why do you think the<br> metal input shaft is harder =
to use than the plastic<br> tool?&nbsp;&nbsp; The input shaft is much longe=
r than the plastic<br> tool and you can get a better feel for finding the c=
enter<br> position when moving it through its range of motion as you<br> al=
ign the disc.</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon<br> Lachlan via H=
ealeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data=
-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #=
CCCCCC<br>            1.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm<br>            6.0pt; mar=
gin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; border=
-left: solid #CCCCCC<br>            1.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm<br>        =
    6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;"><div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" d=
ata-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-mar=
gin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-marg=
in-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">To rev=
ert to the problem I=E2=80=99ve being<br> having with my gearbox not wantin=
g to reinstall to<br> my new clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6</span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;=
" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-=
margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-m=
argin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Ble=
eding it made no difference.. It was<br> a forlorn hope as I was sure I=E2=
=80=99d not lost any fluid<br> but miracles are always welcome.</span></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-=
alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-styl=
e=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"=
EN-GB">The gearbox is on the workshop floor as<br> is the new clutch.</span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-b=
ottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bo=
ttom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mc=
e-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span la=
ng=3D"EN-GB">Before removing the new clutch I played<br> around with the AH=
 Spares plastic alignment tool and<br> my spare shaft. Both went in without=
 any trouble but<br> I suppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=99d=
 been<br> miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in<br> the gearb=
ox just as it should.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-=
top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin=
-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-=
bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">See attached file=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=
Seems to me that the<br> old clutch was in pretty good shape and, with<br> =
benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well<br> alone! It=E2=80=99=
s been in there for 27 years that I know<br> of. There were/are a few discr=
epancies between the<br> old and new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=99=
t think<br> these would matter????</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=
=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"E=
N-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: =
auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: a=
uto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Are there any obvio=
us steps that I<br> might have missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not to<br> =
me!</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso=
-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-=
margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;=
" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I haven=E2=80=99t taken out the flywheel.<br> Didn=E2=
=80=99t see why? It=E2=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s straight/vertical and<br> wo=
rks.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso=
-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: au=
to;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: aut=
o;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">People state a preference for alignment<br> with a=
 spare shaft rather than the black plastic<br> tool. I can see that the met=
al shaft might be<br> somewhat more precise, but harder to use surely? </sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin=
-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-=
bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-=
mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-GB">I=E2=80=99m reluctant to reinstall and just<br> repeat the w=
hole sorry process=E2=80=A6.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-=
margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-m=
argin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nb=
sp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso=
-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-=
margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Any suggestion?</span></p><p=
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lt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-al=
t: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" styl=
e=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=
=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"E=
N-GB">Thanks,</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:=
 auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: =
auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Simon</span></p></=
div></div><br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br=
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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Simon=
,</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>It is e=
asier to centre the clutch disk and bolt up the transmission if the engine =
isn=E2=80=99t in the car!</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal>Just saying=E2=80=A6 Harold</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border=
-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal st=
yle=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net">Simon Lachlan via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, Septembe=
r 28, 2021 4:29 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">r=
ichard mayor</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">He=
aleys</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query</p></div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3D=
EN-GB>OK Richard, I get that. I=E2=80=99ve been over zealous but no harm.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>I do confess to=
, perhaps, being overly obsessed with =E2=80=9Ccentring=E2=80=9D. I=E2=80=
=99ve been sitting on the cold garage floor with my head, at a most uncomfo=
rtable height, where the gearbox would sit. I=E2=80=99ve been lining it all=
 up by eye. Hard to explain=E2=80=A6..stick the black nylon thing in and tr=
y to centre it, by eye, within the circle at the centre of the =E2=80=9Cpla=
te =E2=80=93 release lever=E2=80=9D (Thing held in by three metal clips). I=
dea being to keep the circumference of the nylon equidistant all the way ro=
und with the plate=E2=80=99s centre. If you see what I mean.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>What, I think, was happening=
 was that the plate would move slightly off centre as the bolts were tighte=
ned up. One time, I got them precisely equidistant, but the shaft would not=
 go in and out. I=E2=80=99ve reverted to my previous method which was to ti=
ghten up the bolts, little by little, whilst constantly checking the shaft =
for perfect in/out movement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n lang=3DEN-GB>By that method, at least, it=E2=80=99s perfectly aligned and=
 I just await another pair of hands. Tomorrow, maybe.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>I shall support it underneath if I =
can. Hopefully with a trolley jack. It=E2=80=99s at an awkward height for t=
hat and that=E2=80=99ll be tricky.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span lang=3DEN-GB>Thanks for your input,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n lang=3DEN-GB>Since you are doing it the right way, that is, a few turns a=
t each time on each bolt, then it doesn't matter if you go criss-cross or 1=
,2 3. 4 etc.&nbsp; It's not like a wheel that must be centered using specia=
l tapered nuts. A clutch cover is a big spring. It does not have to be &quo=
t;centered&quot; .... just clamped down uniformly.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 a=
t 1:57 AM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon.la=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockq=
uote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0=
in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:=
5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>I=E2=80=99ve b=
een doing it as one does a road wheel=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12 o=E2=80=99clock,=
 6 o=E2=80=99clock , 9 o=E2=80=99clock, 3 o=E2=80=99clock etcetc. Progressi=
vely, round and round about one turn at a time. Using the progress of the d=
owels as a reference.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ms=
o-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span l=
ang=3DEN-GB>Are you suggesting to, say, start at 12 then to 1, to 2 etcetc?=
 Progressively around the flywheel??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left=
:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>An interesting difference. I could start at the =
area from which =E2=80=93 I think =E2=80=93 the plate moves slightly off ce=
ntre=E2=80=A6.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margi=
n-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DE=
N-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB=
>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-a=
lt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><b>From:</b> richard =
mayor &lt;<span lang=3DEN-GB><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span=
 lang=3DEN-US>[email-masked]</span></a></span>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> =
28 September 2021 02:12<br><b>To:</b> <span lang=3DEN-GB><a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]"><span lang=3DEN-US>simon.lachlan@alexare=
vel.plus.com</span></a></span><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Cl=
utch query<span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal sty=
le=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'=
><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left=
:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>When you tighten the cover bolts are you doing i=
t progressively?&nbsp; That is, tighten each one a bit at a time as you mov=
e around the bolt circle?&nbsp; That's the way to do it. <o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma=
rgin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:au=
to;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top=
-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>=
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:56 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexare=
vel.plus.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid windowtex=
t 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin=
-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso=
-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB>Richard,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-=
margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lan=
g=3DEN-GB>Hi. Thanks for this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:au=
to;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-botto=
m-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>You can present the clutch=
 and cover to the flywheel using the plastic tool.&nbsp; Tighten the cover =
just enough to hold the disc....... remove the plastic tool ......then inse=
rt the metal input shaft, loosen the bolt, finish the alignment and tighten=
 the bolts. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><ol start=3D1 type=3D1><li cla=
ss=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagraph s=
tyle=3D'mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Yes, I did work that ou=
t. And put it into practise. I reckon that I was almost there when one of t=
he three little springs in the centre of the housing sprang out. So I had t=
o take it all out and start again. No worry as I=E2=80=99m getting a lot of=
 practise.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmai=
l-m7184340184691913754msolistparagraph style=3D'mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><s=
pan lang=3DEN-GB>One thing=E2=80=A6..I get it centralized when it=E2=80=99s=
 all loose but, as I tighten the bolts, opposite after opposite, it seems t=
o move off centre by about 2mm. Always to the same place. It=E2=80=99s a my=
stery as I=E2=80=99d guess I get it pretty tight before it starts to move. =
ie, it moves when it shouldn=E2=80=99t be able to. Or does it? Maybe the pl=
ate is staying still but the centre of the housing shifts as the springs ti=
ghten up.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail=
-m7184340184691913754msolistparagraph style=3D'mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><sp=
an lang=3DEN-GB>I=E2=80=99ve the car up on ramps so can sit on the floor wi=
th my head sticking up where the gearbox would sit. PITA getting in and out=
, but effective. See pic.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margi=
n-left:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Another aid is to put an old fan belt arou=
nd the back the transmission. One of you can then easily lift or lower the =
back end of the transmission to make things line up.<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
ol start=3D1 type=3D1><li class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m71843401=
84691913754msolistparagraph style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span lang=3D=
EN-GB>I use an old heavy lifting sling which achieves the same thing<o:p></=
o:p></span></li></ol></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB=
>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-m=
argin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lang=
=3DEN-GB>When I do it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of the cylinder h=
ead between it and the firewall.&nbsp; Because the engine is well balanced =
on its motor mounts it does not put much pressure on the firewall.&nbsp; It=
 will do no damage.&nbsp; The engine in this position is well suited to rec=
eive the transmission.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981=
097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagraph><span lang=3DEN-GB style=
=3D'font-family:Wingdings'>=C3=98</span><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-si=
ze:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><sp=
an lang=3DEN-GB>I=E2=80=99ve got a piece of scaffolding plank under the sum=
p. About 12=E2=80=9D by 8=E2=80=9D by 2.5=E2=80=9D. I will be paying huge a=
ttention to the relative levels of engine and gearbox.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp; I then use the floor ja=
ck to get the front of the transmision to the right level. Then you can gui=
de the tranny forward using the fan belt to raise or lower the rear of the =
transmission.&nbsp;&nbsp; Make sure the transmission is in gear so you can =
turn the rear output flange as needed to get the clutch and input shaft spl=
ines to line up.&nbsp; I have used this method many times with success doin=
g it all by myself.&nbsp; Take your time and with a bit of finesse it shoul=
d slide right in. Never let the weight of the transmission hang on the inpu=
t shaft and clutch.&nbsp; Use the floor jact to support the weight of the t=
ransmission at all times. <o:p></o:p></span></p><ol start=3D1 type=3D1><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagrap=
h style=3D'mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-GB>I will. For sure.<o:=
p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m718434=
0184691913754msolistparagraph><span lang=3DEN-GB>Thanks again,<o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754mso=
listparagraph><span lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
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o;margin-left:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
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