Subject: [Healeys] Rear brake adjustment

From: Roger Grace via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 15:07:07 -0700

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BJ8 ph2.
I am Struggling to get consistent results for rear brake shoe adjustment.
All part of a project to get handbrake working properly - currently it is
almost vertical.
Background:
New shoes, slaves and springs etc with less than 4k mi. Almost no sign of
any wear yet.
Handbrake lever clevis pins removed.
Steady post adjusted so the peg just touches when brakes are adjusted tight.
Then the adjustment set so you can just hear/feel slight brake drag.
All OK so far.

Here is the problem:
When the handbrake lever is pushed with screwdriver or my hand it moves
with initial free play then clamps the shoes as it should.  However  when
released brakes do not fully retract, and shoes bind and not at  the same
setting that started off with.
Same story with using the hydraulics; seems to hang up, in not quite the
off position. Both wheels are the same.
Shoes can be "reset"  to original setting by rattling the adjuster back and
forth in  the freeplay zone.
All looks fine when drum is off and you can see the shoe operation.

My thoughts :
I observe that the new springs actually touch the inside of the shoes ?
Maybe some grease there ? Is this interference normal ?
Is it possible to incorrectly assemble the shoes/springs ?
See photo of RR.
I note that the slave is tight on the back plate. How tight is normal
floating ?
Maybe I assembled the slave cylinder clips incorrectly ?

All  suggestions appreciated
rg

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>BJ8 ph2.</div><div>I am Struggling to get consistent =
results for rear brake shoe adjustment.</div><div>All part of a project to =
get handbrake working properly - currently it is almost vertical. <br></div=
><div>Background:<br></div><div>New shoes, slaves and springs etc with less=
 than 4k mi. Almost no sign of any wear yet. <br></div><div>Handbrake lever=
 clevis pins removed.</div><div>Steady post adjusted so the peg just touche=
s when brakes are adjusted tight.</div><div>Then the adjustment set so you =
can just hear/feel slight brake drag.</div><div>All OK so far.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Here is the problem:<br></div><div>When the handbrake lever is=
 pushed with screwdriver or my hand it moves with initial free play then cl=
amps the shoes as it should.=C2=A0 However=C2=A0 when released brakes do no=
t fully retract, and shoes bind and not at=C2=A0 the same setting that star=
ted off with.</div><div>Same story with using the hydraulics; seems to hang=
 up, in not quite the off position. Both wheels are the same.<br></div><div=
>Shoes can be &quot;reset&quot;=C2=A0 to original setting by rattling the a=
djuster back and forth in=C2=A0 the freeplay zone.</div><div>All looks fine=
 when drum is off and you can see the shoe operation.<br></div><div><br></d=
iv><div>My thoughts :<br></div><div>I observe that the new springs actually=
 touch the inside of the shoes ?</div><div>Maybe some grease there ? Is thi=
s interference normal ?</div><div>Is it possible to incorrectly assemble th=
e shoes/springs ?</div><div>See photo of RR.<br></div><div>I note that the =
slave is tight on the back plate. How tight is normal floating ?</div><div>=
Maybe I assembled the slave cylinder clips incorrectly ?<br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>All=C2=A0 suggestions appreciated <br></div><div>rg<br></div><di=
v><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><di=
v><br></div></div>

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From: Henry G Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 22:51:34 +0000 nXmgCEbPx4upoZP2INqRKFJmwg+keXazUWnXvXHsrZ6v4QDyTAgUi3NO6lf9x97S1F2NCvOesCWDYw==

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Handbrake adjustment is a totally different item. Stretched cable or=0Aw=
rong cable? max adjustment on threaded rod? Adjustment procedure in=0Abo=
ok.=0ADid you grease the adjuster and oil the felts on the steady posts?=
=0ABoth springs are the same or the one closest to the adjuster could be=
=0Ashorter (sometimes) and they rub on the shoes-that's ok. Hank=0A=0A=
=09-----------------------------------------From: "Roger Grace via=0AHea=
leys" =0ATo: "Healeys"=0ACc: =0ASent: Monday March 29 2021 3:12:56PM=0AS=
ubject: [Healeys] Rear brake adjustment=0A=0A  BJ8 ph2. I am Struggling=
 to get consistent results for rear brake=0Ashoe adjustment. All part of=
 a project to get handbrake working=0Aproperly - currently it is almost=
 vertical.=0A Background:=0A New shoes, slaves and springs etc with less=
 than 4k mi. Almost no=0Asign of any wear yet.=0A Handbrake lever clevis=
 pins removed. Steady post adjusted so the peg=0Ajust touches when brake=
s are adjusted tight. Then the adjustment set=0Aso you can just hear/fee=
l slight brake drag. All OK so far. =0A Here is the problem:=0A When the=
 handbrake lever is pushed with screwdriver or my hand it=0Amoves with i=
nitial free play then clamps the shoes as it should.=0AHowever when rele=
ased brakes do not fully retract, and shoes bind and=0Anot at the same s=
etting that started off with. Same story with using=0Athe hydraulics; se=
ems to hang up, in not quite the off position. Both=0Awheels are the sam=
e.=0A Shoes can be "reset" to original setting by rattling the adjuster=
=0Aback and forth in the freeplay zone. All looks fine when drum is off=
=0Aand you can see the shoe operation.=0A=0A My thoughts :=0A I observe=
 that the new springs actually touch the inside of the shoes=0A? Maybe s=
ome grease there ? Is this interference normal ? Is it=0Apossible to inc=
orrectly assemble the shoes/springs ? See photo of RR.=0A I note that th=
e slave is tight on the back plate. How tight is normal=0Afloating ? May=
be I assembled the slave cylinder clips incorrectly ?=0A=0A All suggesti=
ons appreciated=0A rg=0A=0A

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<html><body>Handbrake adjustment is a totally different item. Stretched=
 cable or wrong cable?&nbsp; max adjustment on threaded rod? Adjustment=
 procedure in book.<div><br></div><div>Did you grease the adjuster and o=
il the felts on the steady posts? Both springs are the same or the one c=
losest to the adjuster could be shorter (sometimes) and they rub on the=
 shoes-that's ok. Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><=
p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Roger Grace via He=
aleys" <[email-masked]><br>To: "Healeys"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Monday=
 March 29 2021 3:12:56PM<br>Subject: [Healeys] Rear brake adjustment<br>=
<br>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div>BJ8 ph2.</div>=0A<div>I am Struggling to=
 get consistent results for rear brake shoe=0Aadjustment.</div>=0A<div>A=
ll part of a project to get handbrake working properly -=0Acurrently it=
 is almost vertical.<br></div>=0A<div>Background:<br></div>=0A<div>New s=
hoes, slaves and springs etc with less than 4k mi. Almost=0Ano sign of a=
ny wear yet.<br></div>=0A<div>Handbrake lever clevis pins removed.</div>=
=0A<div>Steady post adjusted so the peg just touches when brakes are=0Aa=
djusted tight.</div>=0A<div>Then the adjustment set so you can just hear=
/feel slight brake=0Adrag.</div>=0A<div>All OK so far.</div>=0A<div><br>=
</div>=0A<div>Here is the problem:<br></div>=0A<div>When the handbrake l=
ever is pushed with screwdriver or my hand=0Ait moves with initial free=
 play then clamps the shoes as it=0Ashould.&nbsp; However&nbsp; when rel=
eased brakes do not fully=0Aretract, and shoes bind and not at&nbsp; the=
 same setting that=0Astarted off with.</div>=0A<div>Same story with usin=
g the hydraulics; seems to hang up, in not=0Aquite the off position. Bot=
h wheels are the same.<br></div>=0A<div>Shoes can be "reset"&nbsp; to or=
iginal setting by rattling the=0Aadjuster back and forth in&nbsp; the fr=
eeplay zone.</div>=0A<div>All looks fine when drum is off and you can se=
e the shoe=0Aoperation.<br></div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>My thoughts :=
<br></div>=0A<div>I observe that the new springs actually touch the insi=
de of=0Athe shoes ?</div>=0A<div>Maybe some grease there ? Is this inter=
ference normal ?</div>=0A<div>Is it possible to incorrectly assemble the=
 shoes/springs=0A?</div>=0A<div>See photo of RR.<br></div>=0A<div>I note=
 that the slave is tight on the back plate. How tight is=0Anormal floati=
ng ?</div>=0A<div>Maybe I assembled the slave cylinder clips incorrectly=
=0A?<br></div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>All&nbsp; suggestions appreciate=
d<br></div>=0A<div>rg<br></div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<d=
iv><br></div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A</=
div>=0A</[email-masked]></div></body></html>

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