Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection

From: Michael Oritt via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 20:12:26 -0500

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Gary--

Can you post either a [picture or drawing of the access panel you are using
on the 100?

Thanks--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 8:06 PM Steve Thomton via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Gary,
> Yes, I think the carb access panel is one of the most practical
> modifications you can make on a Healey.  It just makes all that stuff on
> the driver's side so much more accessible!.. it is a night and day
> difference!
> Steve
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 09:13:53 AM MST, <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Steve,
> I am so glad I installed the carb access panel on my car. It is incredibl=
y
> practical. I also installed one on the 100 I am currently working on.
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Thomton <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] <
> [email-masked]>; [email-masked] <
> [email-masked]>; [email-masked] <
> [email-masked]>; [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 10:03 am
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection
>
> Gary,
> The front fenders are still steel.  I took a rubbing from Pat Moss's car
> when I was in England many years ago... that's that pattern I gave Brad t=
o
> duplicate... it's the same one I used for my Works Rally Tribute car. The
> carb. access panel is a shameless duplicate of Lin Rose's panel.  It is
> similar to the Works carb. access panels, but executed a bit more elegant=
ly
> than Works panel.
>
> Steve
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 07:03:51 AM MST, <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Steve,
> It is good to hear from you again. Your project is looking & sounding
> great. You are very ambitious & your workmanship is flawless. Are those
> aluminum front fenders on the body?
> Thanks for the description & photos.
> Gary Hodson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Thomton <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] <
> [email-masked]>; [email-masked] <
> [email-masked]>; [email-masked] <[email-masked]=
m>;
> Linwood H Rose <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2021 7:06 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection
>
> Gentlemen,
> My friend Lin Rose just gave me a heads-up that my old EFI system was
> being discussed.
>
> That car, 1963 AH Works Rally Tribute, ran great and is now living in
> Australia.  The new owner has had it on 3 continents and roughly 14
> countries... still running well last I heard.  And, yes, on that build I
> did as much as I could to hide all the EFI stuff.
>
> I'm working on a "new" restoration now... another 1963 BJ7.  This one wil=
l
> also be EFI.  But, and some may have issue with this, I've decided to tak=
e
> the EFI to the next level.  To do that I needed to accept that it would
> look higher tech than the last one.  So, this will definitely look like a
> EFI car.  I'm hoping to maximize the overall EFI aspect of this engine...
> meaning improved efficiency and power.  I'll enclose a few images.  I
> started with Weber aluminum castings, which were heavily massaged with 6
> injector bungs, fuel rail mountings, custom mounting brackets for plenum,
> port matched to the heads and a custom ("bespoke" in English terms) plenu=
m
> with a single throttle body... to hit the high points.  The overall engin=
e
> is more aggressive than the last one with the head extensively worked ove=
r
> by a AH head Rockstar, Hap Waldrop in South Carolina, hotter cam custom c=
ut
> for the engine by Dema Elgin, headers and a bunch of other details.  As I
> said, this may not be for everyone, but I'm excited about the project.  T=
he
> engine is together and running with the 3rd, and final, iteration of the
> manifold.  It is patiently waiting on a stand in my shop for the receivin=
g
> car to be ready..  Unfortunately, the car that it will go in is quite a
> ways from done.  I had hoped to have it on the road this summer, but that=
's
> looking like a stretch.
>
> Oh and this will look more like the Sebring Healey's (yes, Gary, more lik=
e
> yours) than a rally car.
>
> That's for the codos Gary, I hope I can live up to your expectations this
> time around!
>
> Feel free to ask questions.
>
> Steve
> On Monday, February 15, 2021, 04:53:17 PM MST, warthodson--- via Healeys =
<
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, Steve's FI system & his workmanship is outstanding. He has several
> YouTube videos showing his system.
> Gary Hodson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2021 5:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection
>
> Hi Perry,
>
> A fellow by the name of Steve Thomton did this a few or more years back,
> looked pretty decent.  I have attached the document he created that
> explains the setup.
> I haven=E2=80=99t heard anything from him in quite a while.  As I recall =
it used
> GM injectors and the ECU from GM, but I haven=E2=80=99t re-read the doc t=
o
> confirm.
>
> Gil
> 61 BT7
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *he=
aleyguy---
> via Healeys
> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2021 6:35 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Cc:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection
>
> More than a decade ago, during several of the USA West Coast meets that w=
e
> attended, there was a fellow that had developed a fuel injection system
> that basically looked like a stock SU carb setup. Over the years I have
> lost the contact info but it was slick.  The injectors and plumbing were
> mounted out of sight, unless you happened to be under the car and perform=
ed
> nicely.
> Any one have any more info on this fellow or his work?
> Perry
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Gary-=
-</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Can you post either a [pict=
ure=C2=A0or drawing of the access panel you are using on the 100?</div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Thanks--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb=
 22, 2021 at 8:06 PM Steve Thomton via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:verd=
ana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Gary,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, I think the carb =
access panel is one of the most practical modifications you can make on a H=
ealey.=C2=A0 It just makes all that stuff on the driver&#39;s side so much =
more accessible!.. it is a night and day difference!=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Steve=C2=A0</div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_4220976690481495956yahoo_quoted_4360824483=
">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                <div>
                    On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 09:13:53 AM MST,  &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_4220976690481495956yiv5552778218"><=
div><div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;,sans-seri=
f">Steve,
<div>I am so glad I installed the carb access panel on my car. It is incred=
ibly practical. I also installed one on the 100 I am currently working on.=
=C2=A0</div>

<div>Gary<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">

<div id=3D"gmail-m_4220976690481495956yiv5552778218yqt24643"><div style=3D"=
font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font size=3D"2">--=
---Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Steve Thomton &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.=
com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:simon.l=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:linwo=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">warthodson@ao=
l.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 10:03 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Gary,</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">The front fenders are still steel.=C2=A0 I took a rubbing =
from Pat Moss&#39;s car when I was in England many years ago... that&#39;s =
that pattern I gave Brad to duplicate... it&#39;s the same one I used for m=
y Works Rally Tribute car. The carb. access panel is a shameless duplicate =
of Lin Rose&#39;s panel.=C2=A0 It is similar to the Works carb. access pane=
ls, but executed a bit more elegantly than Works panel.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Steve</div>

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        </div>

<div id=3D"gmail-m_4220976690481495956yiv5552778218yqt31215">
<div id=3D"gmail-m_4220976690481495956yiv5552778218yahoo_quoted_3950906959"=
           =20
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erif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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<div>
                    On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 07:03:51 AM MST,  &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:
                </div>

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<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

               =20
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

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<div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_4220976690481495956yiv5552778218">
<div>
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;,sans-serif">S=
teve,

<div>It is good to hear from you again. Your project is looking &amp; sound=
ing great. You are very ambitious &amp; your workmanship is flawless. Are t=
hose aluminum front fenders on the body?=C2=A0</div>

<div>Thanks for the description &amp; photos.</div>

<div>Gary Hodson<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">

<div id=3D"gmail-m_4220976690481495956yiv5552778218yqt04914">
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Steve Thomton &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.=
com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:simon.l=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:warth=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Linwoo=
d H Rose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">linwo=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2021 7:06 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">

</font>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_4220976690481495956yiv5552778218">

<div>

<div style=3D"font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">

<div></div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Gentlemen,</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">My friend Lin Rose just gave me a heads-up that my old EFI=
 system was being discussed.</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">That car, 1963 AH Works Rally Tribute, ran great and is no=
w living in Australia.=C2=A0 The new owner has had it on 3 continents and r=
oughly 14 countries... still running well last I heard.=C2=A0 And, yes, on =
that build I did as much as I could to hide all the EFI stuff.</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m working on a &quot;new&quot; restoration now... an=
other 1963 BJ7.=C2=A0 This one will also be EFI.=C2=A0 But, and some may ha=
ve issue with this, I&#39;ve decided to take the EFI to the next level.=C2=
=A0 To do that I needed to accept that it would look higher tech than the l=
ast one.=C2=A0 So, this will definitely look like a EFI car.=C2=A0 I&#39;m =
hoping to maximize the overall EFI aspect of this engine... meaning improve=
d efficiency and power.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll enclose a few images.=C2=A0 I starte=
d with Weber aluminum castings, which were heavily massaged with 6 injector=
 bungs, fuel rail mountings, custom mounting brackets for plenum, port matc=
hed to the heads and a custom (&quot;bespoke&quot; in English terms) plenum=
 with a single throttle body... to hit the high points.=C2=A0 The overall e=
ngine is more aggressive than the last one with the head extensively worked=
 over by a AH head Rockstar, Hap Waldrop in South Carolina, hotter cam cust=
om cut for the engine by Dema Elgin, headers and a bunch of other details.=
=C2=A0 As I said, this may not be for everyone, but I&#39;m excited about t=
he project.=C2=A0 The engine is together and running with the 3rd, and fina=
l, iteration of the manifold.=C2=A0 It is patiently waiting on a stand in m=
y shop for the receiving car to be ready..=C2=A0 Unfortunately, the car tha=
t it will go in is quite a ways from done.=C2=A0 I had hoped to have it on =
the road this summer, but that&#39;s looking like a stretch.</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Oh and this will look more like the Sebring Healey&#39;s (=
yes, Gary, more like yours) than a rally car.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">That&#39;s for the codos Gary, I hope I can live up to you=
r expectations this time around!</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Feel free to ask questions.=C2=A0</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Steve</div>

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        </div>

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<div>
                    On Monday, February 15, 2021, 04:53:17 PM MST, warthods=
on--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

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<div>

<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;,sans-serif">Y=
es, Steve&#39;s FI system &amp; his workmanship is outstanding. He has seve=
ral YouTube videos showing his system.=C2=A0

<div>Gary Hodson<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2021 5:44 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">

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<div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi Perry,</span></=
div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> =C2=A0</span></di=
v>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">A fellow by the na=
me of Steve Thomton did this a few or more years back, looked pretty decent=
.=C2=A0 I have attached the document he created that explains the setup.</s=
pan></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I haven=E2=80=99t =
heard anything from him in quite a while.=C2=A0 As I recall it used GM inje=
ctors and the ECU from GM, but I haven=E2=80=99t re-read the doc to confirm=
.=C2=A0 </span></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> =C2=A0</span></di=
v>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Gil</span></div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">61 BT7</span></div=

<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> =C2=A0</span></di=
v>

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<div><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:10pt"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </=
b>healeyguy--- via Healeys<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February =
15, 2021 6:35 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachl=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection</span></div>

<div> =C2=A0</div>

</div>

<div>

<div id=3D"gmail-m_4220976690481495956yiv5552778218yqtfd14584">

<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;color:black">More than a decade ago, dur=
ing several of the USA West Coast meets that we attended, there was a fello=
w that had developed a fuel injection system that basically looked like a s=
tock SU carb setup. Over the years I have lost the contact info but it was =
slick.=C2=A0 The injectors and plumbing were mounted out of sight, unless y=
ou happened to be under the car and performed nicely. </span></div>

<div>

<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;color:black">Any one have any more info =
on this fellow or his work?=C2=A0</span></div>

</div>

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