Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ebay - Bizarre

From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 18:05:16 -0800

Alan,

I believe you live in Hong Kong; could the recent actions by the CCP 
have instigated this?

Bob

On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:
> All -
>
> Obviously I use ebay to purchase random parts here and there, Ebay 
> just cancelled my account after 18 years for no reason.  I've 
> contacted them, and they offer no explanation. Totally weird....
>
> Anyone else have this issue?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
>

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I don't know.  Possible, they refused to give me a reason.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I don&#39;t know.=C2=A0 Possible, they refused to give me =
a reason.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:06 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Alan,<br>
<br>
I believe you live in Hong Kong; could the recent actions by the CCP <br>
have instigated this?<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:<br>
&gt; All -<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Obviously I use ebay to purchase random parts here and there, Ebay <br=
&gt; just cancelled my account after 18 years for no reason.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve=
 <br>
&gt; contacted them, and they offer no explanation. Totally weird....<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Anyone else have this issue?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Alan<br>
&gt;<br>
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From: Alan Seigrist via Healeys <[email-masked]>
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Bob -

The bizarre thing is I believe the whole thing began with a mainland seller
(who I purchased a small thing from) and they never delivered.  When they
never delivered, I gave them a bad eBay rating.  That dishonest seller then
asked that if I change my rating to good, they would refund my money.  That
request made me angry, so I reported the conversation to eBay that a seller
was holding my refund ransom to change their rating to good.  Well, why
would I change the rating to good to get my money back? So in effect I
would give them a good rating for not delivering what they promised.  Crazy.

Oh well, this is the internets.  Easy enough to just make a new account.

Cheers,

Alan

>> > Anyone else have this issue?

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob -<div><br></div><div>The bizarre thing=C2=A0is I belie=
ve the whole thing began with a mainland seller (who I purchased a small th=
ing from) and they never delivered.=C2=A0 When they never delivered, I gave=
 them a bad eBay rating.=C2=A0 That dishonest seller then asked that if I c=
hange my rating to good, they would refund my money.=C2=A0 That request mad=
e me angry, so I reported the conversation to eBay that a seller was holdin=
g my refund ransom to change their rating to good.=C2=A0 Well, why would I =
change the rating to good to get my money back? So in effect I would give t=
hem a good rating for not delivering=C2=A0what they promised.=C2=A0 Crazy.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Oh well, this is the internets.=C2=A0 Easy enough =
to just make a new account.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Alan</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11 AM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I=
 don&#39;t know.=C2=A0 Possible, they refused to give me a reason.</div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, M=
ar 10, 2021 at 10:06 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.=
net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Alan,<br>
<br>
I believe you live in Hong Kong; could the recent actions by the CCP <br>
have instigated this?<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:<br>
&gt; All -<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Obviously I use ebay to purchase random parts here and there, Ebay <br=

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I had something similar happen near the beginning of the pandemic. I 
ordered what was supposed to be a 3M respirator--for chemical 
application, not for the virus--from an outfit that appeared to be in 
mainland China (a lot of these showed up on eBay about then, all trying 
to undercut each other by a couple cents). Anyway, the respirator never 
came, and from the start the seller had implored me to 'contact him, not 
eBay.' Every time I did, they gave a different tracking number, which 
appeared to originate at various places in N. America (I don't know if 
the numbers were hacked from the USPS, or were just random). A couple 
cycles of this and I contacted eBay to report a fraud; they refunded my 
money within a few days. Maybe your seller had 'connections?'

Bob

On 3/9/2021 6:27 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:
> Bob -
>
> The bizarre thing is I believe the whole thing began with a mainland 
> seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they never delivered.  
> When they never delivered, I gave them a bad eBay rating.  That 
> dishonest seller then asked that if I change my rating to good, they 
> would refund my money.  That request made me angry, so I reported the 
> conversation to eBay that a seller was holding my refund ransom to 
> change their rating to good.  Well, why would I change the rating to 
> good to get my money back? So in effect I would give them a good 
> rating for not delivering what they promised.  Crazy.
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11 AM Alan Seigrist <[email-masked] 
>
>     On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:06 AM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]
>
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    I had something similar happen near the beginning of the pandemic. I
    ordered what was supposed to be a 3M respirator--for chemical
    application, not for the virus--from an outfit that appeared to be
    in mainland China (a lot of these showed up on eBay about then, all
    trying to undercut each other by a couple cents). Anyway, the
    respirator never came, and from the start the seller had implored me
    to 'contact him, not eBay.' Every time I did, they gave a different
    tracking number, which appeared to originate at various places in N.
    America (I don't know if the numbers were hacked from the USPS, or
    were just random). A couple cycles of this and I contacted eBay to
    report a fraud; they refunded my money within a few days. Maybe your
    seller had 'connections?'<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/9/2021 6:27 PM, Alan Seigrist
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
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cite="mid:CAFBXTk++=[email-masked]">
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      <div dir="ltr">Bob -
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The bizarre thing is I believe the whole thing began with a
          mainland seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they
          never delivered.  When they never delivered, I gave them a bad
          eBay rating.  That dishonest seller then asked that if I
          change my rating to good, they would refund my money.  That
          request made me angry, so I reported the conversation to eBay
          that a seller was holding my refund ransom to change their
          rating to good.  Well, why would I change the rating to good
          to get my money back? So in effect I would give them a good
          rating for not delivering what they promised.  Crazy.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Oh well, this is the internets.  Easy enough to just make a
          new account.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Alan</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11
          AM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
            moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="ltr">I don't know.  Possible, they refused to give
            me a reason.</div>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at
              10:06 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a
                href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
              0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Alan,<br>
              <br>
              I believe you live in Hong Kong; could the recent actions
              by the CCP <br>
              have instigated this?<br>
              <br>
              Bob<br>
              <br>
              On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:<br>
              &gt; All -<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Obviously I use ebay to purchase random parts here
              and there, Ebay <br>
              &gt; just cancelled my account after 18 years for no
              reason.  I've <br>
              &gt; contacted them, and they offer no explanation.
              Totally weird....<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Anyone else have this issue?<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Cheers,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Alan<br>
              &gt;<br>
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From: i erbs via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 19:38:05 -0800

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Im having an issue with a seller on ebay, but can't figure out how to
contact ebay

Ira Erbs
1959 AH 100-6
1967 MGB
Milwaukie, OR

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 7:31 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

> ordered what was supposed to be a 3M respirator--for chemical application,
> not for the virus--from an outfit that appeared to be in mainland China (a
> lot of these showed up on eBay about then, all trying to undercut each
> other by a couple cents). Anyway, the respirator never came, and from the
> start the seller had implored me to 'contact him, not eBay.' Every time I
> did, they gave a different tracking number, which appeared to originate at
> various places in N. America (I don't know if the numbers were hacked from
> the USPS, or were just random). A couple cycles of this and I contacted
> eBay to report a fraud; they refunded my money within a few days. Maybe
> your seller had 'connections?'
>
> Bob
>
> seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they never delivered.  When
> they never delivered, I gave them a bad eBay rating.  That dishonest seller
> then asked that if I change my rating to good, they would refund my money.
> That request made me angry, so I reported the conversation to eBay that a
> seller was holding my refund ransom to change their rating to good.  Well,
> why would I change the rating to good to get my money back? So in effect I
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<div dir=3D"auto">Im having an issue with a seller on ebay, but can&#39;t f=
igure out how to contact ebay<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature=
">Ira Erbs<br>1959 AH 100-6<br>1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, OR</div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 9=
, 2021, 7:31 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bsp=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    I had something similar happen near the beginning of the pandemic. I
    ordered what was supposed to be a 3M respirator--for chemical
    application, not for the virus--from an outfit that appeared to be
    in mainland China (a lot of these showed up on eBay about then, all
    trying to undercut each other by a couple cents). Anyway, the
    respirator never came, and from the start the seller had implored me
    to &#39;contact him, not eBay.&#39; Every time I did, they gave a diffe=
rent
    tracking number, which appeared to originate at various places in N.
    America (I don&#39;t know if the numbers were hacked from the USPS, or
    were just random). A couple cycles of this and I contacted eBay to
    report a fraud; they refunded my money within a few days. Maybe your
    seller had &#39;connections?&#39;<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 3/9/2021 6:27 PM, Alan Seigrist
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Bob -
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The bizarre thing=C2=A0is I believe the whole thing began with=
 a
          mainland seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they
          never delivered.=C2=A0 When they never delivered, I gave them a b=
ad
          eBay rating.=C2=A0 That dishonest seller then asked that if I
          change my rating to good, they would refund my money.=C2=A0 That
          request made me angry, so I reported the conversation to eBay
          that a seller was holding my refund ransom to change their
          rating to good.=C2=A0 Well, why would I change the rating to good
          to get my money back? So in effect I would give them a good
          rating for not delivering=C2=A0what they promised.=C2=A0 Crazy.</=
div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Oh well, this is the internets.=C2=A0 Easy enough to just make=
 a
          new account.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Alan</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11
          AM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir=3D"ltr">I don&#39;t know.=C2=A0 Possible, they refused t=
o give
            me a reason.</div>
          <br>
          <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
            <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at
              10:06 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Alan,<br>
              <br>
              I believe you live in Hong Kong; could the recent actions
              by the CCP <br>
              have instigated this?<br>
              <br>
              Bob<br>
              <br>
              On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:<br>
              &gt; All -<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Obviously I use ebay to purchase random parts here
              and there, Ebay <br>
              &gt; just cancelled my account after 18 years for no
              reason.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve <br>
              &gt; contacted them, and they offer no explanation.
              Totally weird....<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Anyone else have this issue?<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Cheers,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Alan<br>
              &gt;<br>
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Alan,

If an eBay purchase does not show up it hardly ever is a question of a 
dishonest seller, the parcel can be underway for months or very rarely 
can get lost. In such a case it is usual to contact the seller first 
_/*before*/_ giving him a bad rating, so the seller can resend the 
article or give you a full refund which would deserve a positive rating!!

Especially if you buy from Hong Kong or China (dirt cheap and often free 
shipping) it may take days or a few months before the item shows up at 
its destination. I always got a full refund if an item did not show up 
after a few months. However the item always showed up some time later so 
I paid the seller back again.

Kees Oudesluijs

Op 10-3-2021 om 03:27 schreef Alan Seigrist via Healeys:
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    <p>Alan,</p>
    <p>If an eBay purchase does not show up it hardly ever is a question
      of a dishonest seller, the parcel can be underway for months or
      very rarely can get lost. In such a case it is usual to contact
      the seller first <u><i><b>before</b></i></u> giving him a bad
      rating, so the seller can resend the article or give you a full
      refund which would deserve a positive rating!! <br>
    </p>
    <p>Especially if you buy from Hong Kong or China (dirt cheap and
      often free shipping) it may take days or a few months before the
      item shows up at its destination. I always got a full refund if an
      item did not show up after a few months. However the item always
      showed up some time later so I paid the seller back again.</p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 10-3-2021 om 03:27 schreef Alan
      Seigrist via Healeys:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Bob -
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The bizarre thing is I believe the whole thing began with a
          mainland seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they
          never delivered.  When they never delivered, I gave them a bad
          eBay rating.  That dishonest seller then asked that if I
          change my rating to good, they would refund my money.  That
          request made me angry, so I reported the conversation to eBay
          that a seller was holding my refund ransom to change their
          rating to good.  Well, why would I change the rating to good
          to get my money back? So in effect I would give them a good
          rating for not delivering what they promised.  Crazy.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Oh well, this is the internets.  Easy enough to just make a
          new account.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Alan</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11
          AM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
            moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">I don't know.  Possible, they refused to give
            me a reason.</div>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at
              10:06 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a
                href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
              0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Alan,<br>
              <br>
              I believe you live in Hong Kong; could the recent actions
              by the CCP <br>
              have instigated this?<br>
              <br>
              Bob<br>
              <br>
              On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:<br>
              &gt; All -<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Obviously I use ebay to purchase random parts here
              and there, Ebay <br>
              &gt; just cancelled my account after 18 years for no
              reason.  I've <br>
              &gt; contacted them, and they offer no explanation.
              Totally weird....<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Anyone else have this issue?<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Cheers,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Alan<br>
              &gt;<br>
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From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 06:15:20 -0500

I bought a print from an UK ebay seller last year.  It got to the US 
very quickly and then stopped.  After 2+ months the seller felt that the 
shipment had been lost and sent me another.  I now have 2 prints - paid 
for both.  Last November I bought two HF1748 horn gaskets from Germany 
off of ebay.  Received them four months later.  Both orders were 
delivered by USPS.  I recently bought some BA hardware from the UK and 
got that within a week (airmail/UPS). Hopefully, shipping will return to 
the pre-pandemic delivery times.

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar

On 3/10/21 5:52 AM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote:
> Especially if you buy from Hong Kong or China (dirt cheap and often 
> free shipping) it may take days or a few months before the item shows 
> up at its destination. I always got a full refund if an item did not 
> show up after a few months. However the item always showed up some 
> time later so I paid the seller back again.
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
>> seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they never 
>> delivered.  When they never delivered, I gave them a bad eBay 
>> rating.  That dishonest seller then asked that if I change my rating 
>> to good, they would refund my money.  That request made me angry, so 
>> I reported the conversation to eBay that a seller was holding my 
>> refund ransom to change their rating to good.  Well, why would I 
>> change the rating to good to get my money back? So in effect I would 
>> give them a good rating for not delivering what they promised.  Crazy.
>>
>> <mailto:[email-masked]>> wrote:
>>
>>     On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:06 AM Bob Spidell
>>     <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>> wrote:
>>
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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 10:59:53 +0800

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Regardless of it all, I am now "permanently banned" from ebay and they were
never able to give me a reason.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Regardless of it all, I am now &quot;permanently banned&qu=
ot; from ebay and they were never able to give me a reason.</div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, =
2021 at 7:16 PM Bob Haskell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex">I bought a print from an UK ebay seller last year.=
=C2=A0 It got to the US <br>
very quickly and then stopped.=C2=A0 After 2+ months the seller felt that t=
he <br>
shipment had been lost and sent me another.=C2=A0 I now have 2 prints - pai=
d <br>
for both.=C2=A0 Last November I bought two HF1748 horn gaskets from Germany=
 <br>
off of ebay.=C2=A0 Received them four months later.=C2=A0 Both orders were =
<br>
delivered by USPS.=C2=A0 I recently bought some BA hardware from the UK and=
 <br>
got that within a week (airmail/UPS). Hopefully, shipping will return to <b=
r>
the pre-pandemic delivery times.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Bob Haskell<br>
Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar<br>
<br>
On 3/10/21 5:52 AM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Alan,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If an eBay purchase does not show up it hardly ever is a question of a=
 <br>
&gt; dishonest seller, the parcel can be underway for months or very rarely=
 <br>
&gt; can get lost. In such a case it is usual to contact the seller first <=
br>
&gt; _/*before*/_ giving him a bad rating, so the seller can resend the <br=
&gt; article or give you a full refund which would deserve a positive ratin=
g!!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Especially if you buy from Hong Kong or China (dirt cheap and often <b=
r>
&gt; free shipping) it may take days or a few months before the item shows =
<br>
&gt; up at its destination. I always got a full refund if an item did not <=
br>
&gt; show up after a few months. However the item always showed up some <br=
&gt; time later so I paid the seller back again.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Kees Oudesluijs<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Op 10-3-2021 om 03:27 schreef Alan Seigrist via Healeys:<br>
&gt;&gt; Bob -<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The bizarre thing=C2=A0is I believe the whole thing began with a m=
ainland <br>
&gt;&gt; seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they never <br>
&gt;&gt; delivered.=C2=A0 When they never delivered, I gave them a bad eBay=
 <br>
&gt;&gt; rating.=C2=A0 That dishonest seller then asked that if I change my=
 rating <br>
&gt;&gt; to good, they would refund my money.=C2=A0 That request made me an=
gry, so <br>
&gt;&gt; I reported the conversation to eBay that a seller was holding my <=
br>
&gt;&gt; refund ransom to change their rating to good.=C2=A0 Well, why woul=
d I <br>
&gt;&gt; change the rating to good to get my money back? So in effect I wou=
ld <br>
&gt;&gt; give them a good rating for not delivering=C2=A0what they promised=
.=C2=A0 Crazy.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Oh well, this is the internets.=C2=A0 Easy enough to just make a n=
ew account.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Alan<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11 AM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> <br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I don&#39;t know.=C2=A0 Possible, they refused =
to give me a reason.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:06 AM Bob Spidell<br=
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bspide=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<b=
r>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Alan,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I believe you live in Hong Kong; =
could the recent actions by<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the CCP<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have instigated this?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Bob<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigris=
t via Healeys wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; All -<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Obviously I use ebay to purc=
hase random parts here and<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0there, Ebay<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; just cancelled my account af=
ter 18 years for no reason.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; contacted them, and they off=
er no explanation. Totally<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0weird....<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Anyone else have this issue?=
<br>
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&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0&gt; Cheers,<br>
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From: Alan Seigrist via Healeys <[email-masked]>
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Kees -

It was never an issue of the lack of delivery, but the attempt to hold back
refund in order to change rating.  Doesn't matter, they reported me to eBay
and now I'm no longer on eBay.  I also got a permanent ban from eBay.
You'd think I was President Trump or something!

Cheers,

Alan

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:53 PM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> dishonest seller, the parcel can be underway for months or very rarely can
> get lost. In such a case it is usual to contact the seller first *before*
> giving him a bad rating, so the seller can resend the article or give you a
> full refund which would deserve a positive rating!!
>
> shipping) it may take days or a few months before the item shows up at its
> destination. I always got a full refund if an item did not show up after a
> few months. However the item always showed up some time later so I paid the
> seller back again.
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
> [email-masked]://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Kees -<div><br></div><div>It was never an issue of the lac=
k of delivery, but the attempt to hold back refund in order to change ratin=
g.=C2=A0 Doesn&#39;t matter, they reported me to eBay and now I&#39;m no lo=
nger on eBay.=C2=A0 I also got a permanent ban from eBay.=C2=A0 You&#39;d t=
hink I was President Trump or something!=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:53 =
PM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <p>Alan,</p>
    <p>If an eBay purchase does not show up it hardly ever is a question
      of a dishonest seller, the parcel can be underway for months or
      very rarely can get lost. In such a case it is usual to contact
      the seller first <u><i><b>before</b></i></u> giving him a bad
      rating, so the seller can resend the article or give you a full
      refund which would deserve a positive rating!! <br>
    </p>
    <p>Especially if you buy from Hong Kong or China (dirt cheap and
      often free shipping) it may take days or a few months before the
      item shows up at its destination. I always got a full refund if an
      item did not show up after a few months. However the item always
      showed up some time later so I paid the seller back again.</p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div>Op 10-3-2021 om 03:27 schreef Alan
      Seigrist via Healeys:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Bob -
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The bizarre thing=C2=A0is I believe the whole thing began with=
 a
          mainland seller (who I purchased a small thing from) and they
          never delivered.=C2=A0 When they never delivered, I gave them a b=
ad
          eBay rating.=C2=A0 That dishonest seller then asked that if I
          change my rating to good, they would refund my money.=C2=A0 That
          request made me angry, so I reported the conversation to eBay
          that a seller was holding my refund ransom to change their
          rating to good.=C2=A0 Well, why would I change the rating to good
          to get my money back? So in effect I would give them a good
          rating for not delivering=C2=A0what they promised.=C2=A0 Crazy.</=
div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Oh well, this is the internets.=C2=A0 Easy enough to just make=
 a
          new account.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Alan</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11
          AM Alan Seigrist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir=3D"ltr">I don&#39;t know.=C2=A0 Possible, they refused t=
o give
            me a reason.</div>
          <br>
          <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
            <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at
              10:06 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Alan,<br>
              <br>
              I believe you live in Hong Kong; could the recent actions
              by the CCP <br>
              have instigated this?<br>
              <br>
              Bob<br>
              <br>
              On 3/9/2021 5:59 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:<br>
              &gt; All -<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Obviously I use ebay to purchase random parts here
              and there, Ebay <br>
              &gt; just cancelled my account after 18 years for no
              reason.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve <br>
              &gt; contacted them, and they offer no explanation.
              Totally weird....<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Anyone else have this issue?<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Cheers,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Alan<br>
              &gt;<br>
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