Subject: Re: [Healeys] jack handles - again!

From: Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 08:26:47 -0700

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Mirek,

Good timing, I am in the process of selling four original AH jacks with
handles and bags as applicable, *all restored to Concours condition*.

1.)  Shelley 6INCH with original handles, and oil cloth bags made by a
member of the Concours committee.
2.)  Shelley LJ 23 54  with reproduction handles (made by a member of the
Concours committee), and leather cloth bags made by Rightway Heritage
Trimming.
3.)  Shelley LJ 23 54  with reproduction handles (made by a member of the
Concours committee), and leather cloth bags made by Rightway Heritage
Trimming.
4.)  Shelley LJ 225 with the straight 18" zinc plated hanlde

I'm also selling a very nice reproduction set of the Shelley LJ 21 jack
handles, also Concours correct.  I also have 2/3 of an original set that
I'm trying to complete and sell.

*The two handle pieces for the LJ 21 / B.1881 jacks are 14" long, and the
round cross handle is 12 " long.*

*Cheers,*

*Curt*
*AH Concours Technical Committee*

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 7:54 AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> ! cannot determine the length of the jack handles for an early BT7.
>
>
>
> Photo 25 in Supplement 7 of the Concours Guide indicates the correct jack
> for my BT7 (build date October 1959) is the King Dick B. 1881.  The capti=
on
> says the KD 1881 and Shelley LJ21 jacks used the same handles, which are
> illustrated but there is no scale and the lengths are not provided.  Phot=
o
> 18 in the supplement shows the Shelley LJ21 and 3 sets of jack handles, t=
he
> bottom set being for the LJ21, which should therefore be the correct ones
> for the KD B. 1881 as well.  The caption provides the lengths for the oth=
er
> two sets of handles, but not the handle length for the LJ21!  The text do=
es
> not provide  the lengths either.  The bottom set in Photo 18 look to be
> intermediate between the other two sets, perhaps around 18=E2=80=9D?
>
>
>
> Does anyone have a set of handles that are correct for the Shelly
> LJ21/King Dick B. 1881 that they could measure the lengths of for me?  Th=
is
> would be a useful addition to the next version of the guide.
>
>
>
> With thanks, Mirek
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Mirek,<div><br></div><div>Good timing, I am in the process=
 of selling four original AH jacks with handles and bags as applicable, <u>=
all restored to Concours condition</u>.</div><div><br></div><div>1.)=C2=A0 =
Shelley 6INCH with original handles, and oil cloth bags made by a member of=
 the Concours committee.</div><div>2.)=C2=A0 Shelley LJ 23 54=C2=A0

with reproduction handles (made by a member of the Concours committee), and=
 leather cloth bags made by Rightway Heritage Trimming.

</div><div>3.)=C2=A0

Shelley LJ 23 54=C2=A0

with=20

reproduction

 handles

(made by a member of the Concours committee), and=20

leather cloth bags made by Rightway Heritage Trimming.

</div><div>4.)=C2=A0

Shelley LJ 225 with the straight 18&quot; zinc plated hanlde</div><div><br>=
</div><div>I&#39;m also selling a very nice reproduction set of the Shelley=
 LJ 21 jack handles,=C2=A0also Concours correct.=C2=A0 I also have 2/3 of a=
n original set that I&#39;m trying to complete and sell.</div><div><br></di=
v><div><b>The two handle pieces for the LJ 21 / B.1881 jacks are 14&quot; l=
ong, and the round cross handle is 12 &quot; long.</b></div><div><b><br></b=
></div><div><b>Cheers,</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><b>Curt</b></div=
><div><b>AH Concours Technical Committee</b></div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 7:54 AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div l=
ang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"gmail-m_68=
00473155838891715WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
! cannot determine the length of the jack handles for an early BT7.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Photo 25 in Su=
pplement 7 of the Concours Guide indicates the correct jack for my BT7 (bui=
ld date October 1959) is the King Dick B. 1881.=C2=A0 The caption says the =
KD 1881 and Shelley LJ21 jacks used the same handles, which are illustrated=
 but there is no scale and the lengths are not provided.=C2=A0 Photo 18 in =
the supplement shows the Shelley LJ21 and 3 sets of jack handles, the botto=
m set being for the LJ21, which should therefore be the correct ones for th=
e KD B. 1881 as well.=C2=A0 The caption provides the lengths for the other =
two sets of handles, but not the handle length for the LJ21!=C2=A0 The text=
 does not provide=C2=A0 the lengths either.=C2=A0 The bottom set in Photo 1=
8 look to be intermediate between the other two sets, perhaps around 18=E2=
=80=9D?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
>Does anyone have a set of handles that are correct for the Shelly LJ21/Kin=
g Dick B. 1881 that they could measure the lengths of for me?=C2=A0 This wo=
uld be a useful addition to the next version of the guide.<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">With thanks, Mirek<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div></div>___________________________________________=
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From: Curtis Arndt via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 08:29:46 -0700

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I forgot, the Shelley LJ 225 jack is the early model without the
reinforcing collar.  Applicable to 3000s from around mid 1960 to around
1964.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]> wrote:

>> Photo 25 in Supplement 7 of the Concours Guide indicates the correct jac=
k
>> for my BT7 (build date October 1959) is the King Dick B. 1881.  The capt=
ion
>> illustrated but there is no scale and the lengths are not provided.  Pho=
to
>> 18 in the supplement shows the Shelley LJ21 and 3 sets of jack handles, =
the
>> bottom set being for the LJ21, which should therefore be the correct one=
s
>> for the KD B. 1881 as well.  The caption provides the lengths for the ot=
her
>> two sets of handles, but not the handle length for the LJ21!  The text d=
oes
>> LJ21/King Dick B. 1881 that they could measure the lengths of for me?  T=
his
>> would be a useful addition to the next version of the guide.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I forgot, the=C2=A0Shelley LJ 225 jack is the early model =
without the reinforcing collar.=C2=A0 Applicable to 3000s from around mid 1=
960 to around 1964.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Curtis Arndt &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Mirek,<di=
v><br></div><div>Good timing, I am in the process of selling four original =
AH jacks with handles and bags as applicable, <u>all restored to Concours c=
ondition</u>.</div><div><br></div><div>1.)=C2=A0 Shelley 6INCH with origina=
l handles, and oil cloth bags made by a member of the Concours committee.</=
div><div>2.)=C2=A0 Shelley LJ 23 54=C2=A0

</div><div>3.)=C2=A0

Shelley LJ 23 54=C2=A0

with=20

reproduction

 handles

</div><div>4.)=C2=A0

/div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 7:54 AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-CA"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">! cannot determine the length of the jack handles for an early BT7.<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Photo 2=
5 in Supplement 7 of the Concours Guide indicates the correct jack for my B=
T7 (build date October 1959) is the King Dick B. 1881.=C2=A0 The caption sa=
ys the KD 1881 and Shelley LJ21 jacks used the same handles, which are illu=
strated but there is no scale and the lengths are not provided.=C2=A0 Photo=
 18 in the supplement shows the Shelley LJ21 and 3 sets of jack handles, th=
e bottom set being for the LJ21, which should therefore be the correct ones=
 for the KD B. 1881 as well.=C2=A0 The caption provides the lengths for the=
 other two sets of handles, but not the handle length for the LJ21!=C2=A0 T=
he text does not provide=C2=A0 the lengths either.=C2=A0 The bottom set in =
Photo 18 look to be intermediate between the other two sets, perhaps around=
 18=E2=80=9D?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"=
EN-US">Does anyone have a set of handles that are correct for the Shelly LJ=
21/King Dick B. 1881 that they could measure the lengths of for me?=C2=A0 T=
his would be a useful addition to the next version of the guide.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">With thanks, Mire=
k<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>_____________________________________=
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From: Curtis Arndt via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 09:10:07 -0700

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Here is a photo of an original set of jack handles for my BN1, applicable
for the Shelley 6INCH, Shelley LJ 23 and Shelley DL12 jacks.  The handles
for the LJ 21 are very close, and are also 14" long with the only
difference being that the handle end that fits into the LJ 21 jack is just
the square rod with a spring loaded ball in the end, and does not have the
larger rounded end with spring loaded ball like the other
aforementioned jacks have.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 8:29 AM Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]> wrote:

>> 2.)  Shelley LJ 23 54  with reproduction handles (made by a member of th=
e
>> 3.)  Shelley LJ 23 54  with reproduction handles (made by a member of th=
e
>> *The two handle pieces for the LJ 21 / B.1881 jacks are 14" long, and th=
e
>>> Photo 25 in Supplement 7 of the Concours Guide indicates the correct
>>> jack for my BT7 (build date October 1959) is the King Dick B. 1881.  Th=
e
>>> caption says the KD 1881 and Shelley LJ21 jacks used the same handles,
>>> which are illustrated but there is no scale and the lengths are not
>>> provided.  Photo 18 in the supplement shows the Shelley LJ21 and 3 sets=
 of
>>> jack handles, the bottom set being for the LJ21, which should therefore=
 be
>>> the correct ones for the KD B. 1881 as well.  The caption provides the
>>> lengths for the other two sets of handles, but not the handle length fo=
r
>>> the LJ21!  The text does not provide  the lengths either.  The bottom s=
et
>>> in Photo 18 look to be intermediate between the other two sets, perhaps
>>> around 18=E2=80=9D?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LJ21/King Dick B. 1881 that they could measure the lengths of for me?  =
This
>>> would be a useful addition to the next version of the guide.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Here is a photo of an original set of jack handles for my =
BN1, applicable for the Shelley 6INCH, Shelley LJ 23 and Shelley DL12 jacks=
.=C2=A0 The handles for the LJ 21 are very close, and are also 14&quot; lon=
g with=C2=A0the only difference being that the handle end that fits into th=
e LJ 21 jack is just the square rod with a spring loaded ball in the end, a=
nd does not have the larger rounded end with spring loaded ball like the ot=
her aforementioned=C2=A0jacks have.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 8:29 AM Curtis Ar=
ndt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">I forgot, the=C2=A0Shelley LJ 225 jack is the early model without the=
 reinforcing collar.=C2=A0 Applicable to 3000s from around mid 1960 to arou=
nd 1964.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_attr">On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Curtis Arndt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:c=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Mir=
ek,<div><br></div><div>Good timing, I am in the process of selling four ori=
ginal AH jacks with handles and bags as applicable, <u>all restored to Conc=
ours condition</u>.</div><div><br></div><div>1.)=C2=A0 Shelley 6INCH with o=
riginal handles, and oil cloth bags made by a member of the Concours commit=
tee.</div><div>2.)=C2=A0 Shelley LJ 23 54=C2=A0

</div><div>3.)=C2=A0

Shelley LJ 23 54=C2=A0

with=20

reproduction

 handles

</div><div>4.)=C2=A0

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