Subject: Re: [Healeys] electric radiator fan

From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 10:54:43 -0600

This is a multipart message in MIME format.

--===============3746102722105880460==
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01D4B3D3.373E5410"
Content-Language: en-us

This is a multipart message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_000D_01D4B3D3.373E5410
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I run that setup in my alcohol, turbo rally car, using a sidewinder fan. =
 The electric motor is off to the side.  Also using electric water pump. =
 425+ hp, does not overheat.

=20

Jim Hockert

=20

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of i erbs
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:00 AM
To: Ahealey help <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] electric radiator fan

=20

Has anyone run with just an electric fan, removing the engine fan for =
the radiator? Thinking about running that way with a thermostatic switch =
for the electric fan, like on modern cars. That way I can mount the fan =
a pull between the rad and the engine. Comments from experience please.  =

Ira Erbs

Portland,OR

      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)

          BT7 engine and disk brakes

=20

=20

1967 MGB    =
<http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg>=20

=20

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti

Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

------=_NextPart_000_000D_01D4B3D3.373E5410
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" =
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" =
xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta =
name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><!--[if =
!mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style><![endif]--><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
	{font-family:Helvetica;
	panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:"Cambria Math";
	panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Calibri;
	panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
	{margin:0in;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	font-size:11.0pt;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:#0563C1;
	text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:#954F72;
	text-decoration:underline;}
p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
	{mso-style-name:msonormal;
	mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
	margin-right:0in;
	mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
	margin-left:0in;
	font-size:11.0pt;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
span.EmailStyle18
	{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
.MsoChpDefault
	{mso-style-type:export-only;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
@page WordSection1
	{size:8.5in 11.0in;
	margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
	{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
<o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US =
link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I run that setup in my alcohol, turbo rally car, using =
a sidewinder fan.=C2=A0 The electric motor is off to the side.=C2=A0 =
Also using electric water pump.=C2=A0 425+ hp, does not =
overheat.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jim Hockert<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>i =
erbs<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Ahealey help &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
electric radiator fan<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1D212=
9'>Has anyone run with just an electric fan, removing the engine fan for =
the radiator? Thinking about running that way with a thermostatic switch =
for the electric fan, like on modern cars. That way I can mount the fan =
a pull between the rad and the engine. Comments from experience =
please.</span>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ira =
Erbs<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Portland,OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _______ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;_______<br>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (______ \____1959 =
BN4____/ _______)<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; =
(_________________________)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BT7 engine and disk =
brakes<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1967 MGB &nbsp;<img id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" =
alt=3DMG><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario =
Andretti</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Please =
excuse random auto corrects and misspelled =
words<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></htm=
l>
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01D4B3D3.373E5410--

--===============3746102722105880460==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive

[email-masked]
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys

--===============3746102722105880460==--

---

From: Kees Oudesluijs <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 18:16:18 +0100

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--===============2647377222827912119==
 boundary="------------3116C6F18C40F30F7CB5E2E6"
Content-Language: nl

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------3116C6F18C40F30F7CB5E2E6
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I have always done so with my cars if they had a fixed fan. I just 
removed it and fitted a proper modern multi-blade fan with ring around 
the blades as near the radiator as possible. I have always fitted the 
thermo switch in the top radiator tank or top hose. I used 22mm thread 
for the switch as there are thousnads of variations available. The type 
of switch depends largely on the thermostat you have in the car and the 
pressure  or coolant you have in the cooling system.

E.g. if you have an 86°C thermostat you would need a cutting out temp of 
the thermoswitch of about 92°C. If you run a 7psi cooling system with 
proper coolant you would need a cutting in temp. of around 100°C, the 
lower the pressure the lower the cutting in temp.

You would also need to fit an overflow reservoir and make sure the 
rad.cap is fully airtight.

If you have an 82°C thermostat the cutting out temperatuire can be 
choosen of about 88°C.

Always get the cutting out temp. of the thermoswitch about 5-6°C over 
the opening temp. of the thermostat.

If you fit the thermoswitch in the bottom tank of the radiator the above 
does not apply.

Kees Oudesluijs

Op 24-1-2019 om 17:00 schreef i erbs:
>
> Has anyone run with just an electric fan, removing the engine fan for 
> the radiator? Thinking about running that way with a thermostatic 
> switch for the electric fan, like on modern cars. That way I can mount 
> the fan a pull between the rad and the engine. Comments from 
> experience please.
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
> _______              _______
> 1967 MGB MG
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
>

--------------3116C6F18C40F30F7CB5E2E6
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
  </head>
  <body>
    <p>I have always done so with my cars if they had a fixed fan. I
      just removed it and fitted a proper modern multi-blade fan with
      ring around the blades as near the radiator as possible. I have
      always fitted the thermo switch in the top radiator tank or top
      hose. I used 22mm thread for the switch as there are thousnads of
      variations available. The type of switch depends largely on the
      thermostat you have in the car and the pressure  or coolant you
      have in the cooling system.</p>
    <p>E.g. if you have an 86°C thermostat you would need a cutting out
      temp of the thermoswitch of about 92°C. If you run a 7psi cooling
      system with proper coolant you would need a cutting in temp. of
      around 100°C, the lower the pressure the lower the cutting in
      temp.</p>
    <p>You would also need to fit an overflow reservoir and make sure
      the rad.cap is fully airtight.</p>
    <p>If you have an 82°C thermostat the cutting out temperatuire can
      be choosen of about 88°C. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Always get the cutting out temp. of the thermoswitch about 5-6°C
      over the opening temp. of the thermostat.</p>
    <p>If you fit the thermoswitch in the bottom tank of the radiator
      the above does not apply.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 24-1-2019 om 17:00 schreef i erbs:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:[email-masked]">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <div dir="ltr"><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">
        <span
style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Has
          anyone run with just an electric fan, removing the engine fan
          for the radiator? Thinking about running that way with a
          thermostatic switch for the electric fan, like on modern cars.
          That way I can mount the fan a pull between the rad and the
          engine. Comments from experience please.</span>  <br
          clear="all">
        <div>
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"
            data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
            <div dir="ltr">
              <div>
                <div dir="ltr">
                  <div>
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div>
                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div>
                            <div dir="ltr">
                              <div>
                                <div dir="ltr">
                                  <div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">
                                      <div dir="ltr">Ira Erbs
                                        <div>Portland,OR</div>
                                        <div><span
                                            style="font-family:'Times
                                            New Roman',serif">     
                                            _______                    
                                                         _______</span><br
                                            style="font-family:'Times
                                            New Roman',serif">
                                          <span
                                            style="font-family:'Times
                                            New Roman',serif">    
                                            (______ \____1959 BN4____/
                                            _______)</span><br
                                            style="font-family:'Times
                                            New Roman',serif">
                                          <span
                                            style="font-family:'Times
                                            New Roman',serif">        
                                            (_________________________)</span></div>
                                        <div>          BT7 engine and
                                          disk brakes</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>1967 MGB  <img
                                            src="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg"
                                            alt="MG"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"></div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><span
                                            style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica
Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an
                                            animal with a thousand
                                            adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Please excuse random auto
                                          corrects and misspelled words</div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________

Archive: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://autox.team.net/archive">http://autox.team.net/archive</a>

<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a>

</pre>
    </blockquote>
  </body>
</html>

--------------3116C6F18C40F30F7CB5E2E6--

--===============2647377222827912119==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============2647377222827912119==--

---

From: i erbs <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 11:46:30 -0800

--===============3971396906776366147==

--00000000000039956a0580397823

not pulling a lot of amps. LED lights as headlights, running and break
lights, lower amp draw. so not sure why I would need an alternator?
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes

1967 MGB  

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:43 AM goldengt <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Then you will need an alternator that puts out plenty at idle, just like a
> modern car.
> Ken Freese
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: i erbs <[email-masked]>
> Date: 1/24/19 8:00 AM (GMT-08:00)
> Has anyone run with just an electric fan, removing the engine fan for the
> radiator? Thinking about running that way with a thermostatic switch for
> the electric fan, like on modern cars. That way I can mount the fan a pull
> between the rad and the engine. Comments from experience please.
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
>       _______                                  _______
> 1967 MGB  
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is
> believed to be clean.
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by *MailScanner* <http://www.mailscanner.info/>, and is
> believed to be clean.
>

--00000000000039956a0580397823
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr">not pulling a lot of amps. LED lights as headlights, runni=
ng and break lights, lower amp draw. so not sure why I would need an altern=
ator?<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data=
-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</d=
iv><div><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0______=
_</span><br style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =
(______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman=
&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)=
</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk br=
akes</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img src=3D"htt=
p://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG"><=
/div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&qu=
ot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing=
 car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br></d=
iv><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</div></div>=
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:43 AM goldengt &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Then you will need an a=
lternator that puts out plenty at idle, just like a modern car.</div><div>K=
en Freese=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id=
=3D"gmail-m_7307757219508544093composer_signature"><div style=3D"font-size:=
85%;color:rgb(87,87,87)" dir=3D"auto">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy =
smartphone</div></div><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:100%;color:rgb=
(0,0,0)"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: i erbs &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt; </div><div>Date: 1/24/19  8:00 AM  (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: Ah=
ealey help &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div><div>Subject: [Healeys] electric radia=
tor fan </div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br class=3D"gmail-m_73=
07757219508544093gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"><span style=3D"color:rgb(=
29,33,41);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Has anyone=
 run with just an electric fan, removing the engine fan for the radiator? T=
hinking about running that way with a thermostatic switch for the electric =
fan, like on modern cars. That way I can mount the fan a pull between the r=
ad and the engine. Comments from experience please.</span>=C2=A0=C2=A0<br c=
lear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail-m_7307757219508544093gmai=
l_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ___=
____ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4=
____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,s=
erif"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><div>=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img alt=3D"MG" id=3D"gmail-m_730775=
72195085440931548358443790"></div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments.=
 Mario Andretti</span><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and=
 misspelled words</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br>--=20
<br>This message has been scanned for viruses and
<br>dangerous content by
<a href=3D"http://www.mailscanner.info/" target=3D"_blank"><b>MailScanner</=
b></a>, and is
<br>believed to be clean.

<br>--=20
<br>This message has been scanned for viruses and
<br>dangerous content by
<a href=3D"http://www.mailscanner.info/" target=3D"_blank"><b>MailScanner</=
b></a>, and is
<br>believed to be clean.
</div>
</blockquote></div>

--00000000000039956a0580397823--

--===============3971396906776366147==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============3971396906776366147==--