Subject: [Healeys] Door glass

From: Fred Wescoe <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 12:12:17 -0500

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Listers,

I am attempting to replace the shattered glass in the driver's side door on
my BJ8.  The rubber strip that goes into the window channel has been placed
in the channel.

I cannot get the glass to slide into the rubber and channel.  I wet both
the rubber and the glass with a mixture of water and dish soap but the
glass will not go into the rubber/channel.  The glass rattles around in the
channel without the rubber so I know the channel is the right size.  I
think the rubber is intended to provide a tight fit into the channel.
However, with the rubber in place and with soap and water, the glass simply
will not go in.

Any ideas on how to get this fitted properly?  I am afraid to use a dead
blow  hammer on the channel.

Thanks,

Fred
66BJ8

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<div dir=3D"auto">Listers,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I a=
m attempting to replace the shattered glass in the driver&#39;s side door o=
n my BJ8.=C2=A0 The rubber strip that goes into the window channel has been=
 placed in the channel.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto">I cannot get the glass to slide into the rubber and channel.=C2=
=A0 I wet both the rubber and the glass with a mixture of water and dish so=
ap but the glass will not go into the rubber/channel.=C2=A0 The glass rattl=
es around in the channel without the rubber so I know the channel is the ri=
ght size.=C2=A0 I think the rubber is intended to provide a tight fit into =
the channel.=C2=A0 However, with the rubber in place and with soap and wate=
r, the glass simply will not go in.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto">Any ideas on how to get this fitted properly?=C2=A0 I am afraid=
 to use a dead blow=C2=A0 hammer on the channel.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Fred</div><div dir=3D"auto">66BJ8</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 13:27:28 -0500

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Fred I'm not sure that you are using the correct material.
The channel is secured to the glass with "glass setting tape".
The tape should be of a thickness that you can just push the channel onto
the glass with the edge taped.
The tape is soaked in engine oil and it swells to lock the channel on.

M

On Jan 25, 2019 12:54 PM, "Fred Wescoe" <[email-masked]> wrote:

Listers,

Thanks,

Fred
66BJ8

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<div dir=3D"auto">Fred I&#39;m not sure that you are using the correct mate=
rial.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">The channel is secured to the glass with &quot=
;glass setting tape&quot;.</div><div dir=3D"auto">The tape should be of a t=
hickness that you can just push the channel onto the glass with the edge ta=
ped.</div><div dir=3D"auto">The tape is soaked in engine oil and it swells =
to lock the channel on.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
M</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On J=
an 25, 2019 12:54 PM, &quot;Fred Wescoe&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fredwes=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">=
<blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Listers,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto">I am attempting to replace the shattered glass in the=
 driver&#39;s side door on my BJ8.=C2=A0 The rubber strip that goes into th=
e window channel has been placed in the channel.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I cannot get the glass to slide into =
the rubber and channel.=C2=A0 I wet both the rubber and the glass with a mi=
xture of water and dish soap but the glass will not go into the rubber/chan=
nel.=C2=A0 The glass rattles around in the channel without the rubber so I =
know the channel is the right size.=C2=A0 I think the rubber is intended to=
 provide a tight fit into the channel.=C2=A0 However, with the rubber in pl=
ace and with soap and water, the glass simply will not go in.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Any ideas on how to get this fitted p=
roperly?=C2=A0 I am afraid to use a dead blow=C2=A0 hammer on the channel.<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Fred</div><div dir=3D"auto">66BJ8</div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div>
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 13:40:09 -0500

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Fred, I don't know if the rubber has been changed, but when Moss was =
selling it a few years ago the instructions that came with the channel =
rubber said to wipe it with gasoline to cause it to swell.  That did =
absolutely nothing to the one I bought.  I took the rubber and the glass =
and frame to my local glass shop and they installed it and saved me a =
lot of hassle (only charging $7, too).  Don't forget to put the new =
nylon guides into the frame before installing the rubber and glass.

=20

The shattered glass probably resulted from the vertical scratches left =
in the glass from raising and lowering it against the two screws that =
attach the door pull.  If they are too long, they'll scratch it, causing =
surface stress risers that can eventually cause the tempered glass to =
shatter.  Happened to me.   The problem is the sheet metal screws =
attaching the door pull can pull out of the metal, enlarging the holes.  =
It's hard to find a screw short enough but large enough diameter to fit =
the new holes.  I modified my door to take machine screws, which are =
much easier to find in the right length and diameter, and stronger to =
boot.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

=20

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Fred =
Wescoe
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 12:12 PM
To: healeys
Subject: [Healeys] Door glass

=20

Listers,

=20

I am attempting to replace the shattered glass in the driver's side door =
on my BJ8.  The rubber strip that goes into the window channel has been =
placed in the channel. =20

=20

I cannot get the glass to slide into the rubber and channel.  I wet both =
the rubber and the glass with a mixture of water and dish soap but the =
glass will not go into the rubber/channel.  The glass rattles around in =
the channel without the rubber so I know the channel is the right size.  =
I think the rubber is intended to provide a tight fit into the channel.  =
However, with the rubber in place and with soap and water, the glass =
simply will not go in.

=20

Any ideas on how to get this fitted properly?  I am afraid to use a dead =
blow  hammer on the channel.

=20

Thanks,

=20

Fred

66BJ8

=20

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MS";color:#002060'>Fred, I don't know if the rubber has been changed, =
but when Moss was selling it a few years ago the instructions that came =
with the channel rubber said to wipe it with gasoline to cause it to =
swell.=C2=A0 That did absolutely nothing to the one I bought.=C2=A0 I =
took the rubber and the glass and frame to my local glass shop and they =
installed it and saved me a lot of hassle (only charging $7, too).=C2=A0 =
Don't forget to put the new nylon guides into the frame before =
installing the rubber and glass.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>The shattered glass probably resulted from the =
vertical scratches left in the glass from raising and lowering it =
against the two screws that attach the door pull.=C2=A0 If they are too =
long, they'll scratch it, causing surface stress risers that can =
eventually cause the tempered glass to shatter.=C2=A0 Happened to me. =
=C2=A0=C2=A0The problem is the sheet metal screws attaching the door =
pull can pull out of the metal, enlarging the holes.=C2=A0 It's hard to =
find a screw short enough but large enough diameter to fit the new =
holes.=C2=A0 I modified my door to take machine screws, which are much =
easier to find in the right length and diameter, and stronger to =
boot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
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Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fred =
Wescoe<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 25, 2019 12:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Door =
glass<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Listers,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
am attempting to replace the shattered glass in the driver's side door =
on my BJ8.&nbsp; The rubber strip that goes into the window channel has =
been placed in the channel.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
cannot get the glass to slide into the rubber and channel.&nbsp; I wet =
both the rubber and the glass with a mixture of water and dish soap but =
the glass will not go into the rubber/channel.&nbsp; The glass rattles =
around in the channel without the rubber so I know the channel is the =
right size.&nbsp; I think the rubber is intended to provide a tight fit =
into the channel.&nbsp; However, with the rubber in place and with soap =
and water, the glass simply will not go in.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Any ideas on how to get this fitted properly?&nbsp; I =
am afraid to use a dead blow&nbsp; hammer on the =
channel.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Fred<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>66BJ8<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 10:57:12 -0800

Put the rubber strip—aka ‘glazing rubber’—on the edges of the glass and push them in the window together.  If that won’t go go to an auto glass shop and get thinner rubber (or ask them to do it).

Bob

> On Jan 25, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Fred Wescoe <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> I am attempting to replace the shattered glass in the driver's side door on my BJ8.  The rubber strip that goes into the window channel has been placed in the channel.  
> 
> I cannot get the glass to slide into the rubber and channel.  I wet both the rubber and the glass with a mixture of water and dish soap but the glass will not go into the rubber/channel.  The glass rattles around in the channel without the rubber so I know the channel is the right size.  I think the rubber is intended to provide a tight fit into the channel.  However, with the rubber in place and with soap and water, the glass simply will not go in.
> 
> Any ideas on how to get this fitted properly?  I am afraid to use a dead blow  hammer on the channel.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Fred
> 66BJ8
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 11:01:51 -0800

(Cont.)

Put the rubber on the glass full-width and press the frame onto the glass and rubber.  Trim the excess rubber with a razor blade, being careful not to score the glass.

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From: Mitch Simmons <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:21:49 -0500

Hello Fred

Did you buy the rubber from Moss? If so...won’t work
I think I bought the rubber glazing strip from Restoration Specialties ...they come in different thicknesses....you might get lucky and go to a local window shop and buy some.....once you get the proper size it’s a piece of cake

Mitch 

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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 17:32:53 -0500

I ended up using a bike tire inner tube cut up and it worked great , helped by a rubber mallet 
         Don 

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