Subject: Re: [Healeys] British registration number plate

From: "S. Carr" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:43:22 -0400

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According to the list in my 1952 ed. of the RAC Guide & Handbook, marks =
ending in =E2=80=9CGT=E2=80=9D were issued by the London County Council =
=E2=80=93 but that=E2=80=99s all I can tell you.  (Apparently, when they =
ran out of numbers to use with the 2-letter prefix, an initial letter =
was added; anybody know when they got to letter =E2=80=9CD=E2=80=9D?)

Sarah  Carr
BN1 in PA (USA)

From: Mark Donaldson=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:59 AM
To: 'AH Mail List'=20
Subject: [Healeys] British registration number plate

I have a set of plates that were on a Mk1 Jaguar imported to New Zealand =
in the sixties.

The number is 600 DGT

I believe it may have been issued in the greater London area around =
1958.

=20

Can any of you British listers help me identify it?

=20

Cheers

Mark Donaldson

Ardmore

NZ

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<DIV>According to the list in my 1952 ed. of the <U>RAC Guide &amp;=20
Handbook</U>, marks ending in =E2=80=9CGT=E2=80=9D were issued by the =
London County Council =E2=80=93=20
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<DIV>Sarah&nbsp; Carr</DIV>
<DIV>BN1 in PA (USA)</DIV>
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From: Peter Dzwig <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 15:30:25 +0100

Mark,

I don't really understand the question. Are you looking to identify the car? or
the owner? or what? or perhaps, as Sarah has implied, the general area of issue.

FWIW in the UK the licence plate in effect uniquely identifies the vehicle in
the records of the vehicle licencing authority at the time (presently DVLA). It
does not carry ownership information which is kept private within DVLA records.
Of course we know the identity of some owners of special cars (eg DD300) but
that isn't unambiguous - see discussions on these pages over many years.

Therefore there is only a slim chance that your plate's owner(s) can be identified.

The London County Council was the umbrella council for the whole of the London
metropolitan area up to the mid '60s when it was replaced by the Grater London
Council. According to

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_United_Kingdom,_Crown_dependencies_and_overseas_territories#Older_plates>

GT corresponds to a South West London issue (not necessarily where the owner lived).

My guess is that the letters were issued as and when they were needed, not on
any particular timescale, as they were from '63 on when the coding system
changed. It is quite possible that they were issued either randomly or, more
probably, on a first-come first-served basis.

Strictly all that can be said is that the registration was issued between about
1953 and later '62. Since the Mk1 was produced between 1952 and 1959 we can
narrow this down a bit, to 1953 - 1959, probably later in the run. Bear in mind
too that cars weren't always registered as soon as they were built.

Hope that this helps,

Peter Dzwig

On 23/06/2016 19:43, S. Carr wrote:
> According to the list in my 1952 ed. of the _RAC Guide & Handbook_, marks ending
> in “GT” were issued by the London County Council – but that’s all I can tell
> you.  (Apparently, when they ran out of numbers to use with the 2-letter prefix,
> an initial letter was added; anybody know when they got to letter “D”?)
>  
> Sarah  Carr
> BN1 in PA (USA)
>  
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:59 AM
> *Subject:* [Healeys] British registration number plate
>  
> 
> I have a set of plates that were on a Mk1 Jaguar imported to New Zealand in the
> sixties.
> 
> The number is 600 DGT
> 
> I believe it may have been issued in the greater London area around 1958.
> 
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From: "Mark Donaldson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:59:18 +1200

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Thank you, Sarah,

I am trying to build the provenance of the plates.

We know the owner - my wife's late brother.

We have a photo of the car but only a side view - which does not show the
registration plates.

Ideally we want to link the plates to the car and/or owner.

A friend coined a word for this detective work: "carcheology".

Cheers

Mark Donaldson

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From: S. Carr [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Friday, 24 June 2016 6:43 a.m.
To: 'AH Mail List'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] British registration number plate

According to the list in my 1952 ed. of the RAC Guide & Handbook, marks
ending in "GT" were issued by the London County Council - but that's all I
can tell you.  (Apparently, when they ran out of numbers to use with the
2-letter prefix, an initial letter was added; anybody know when they got to
letter "D"?)

Sarah  Carr

BN1 in PA (USA)

I have a set of plates that were on a Mk1 Jaguar imported to New Zealand in
the sixties.

The number is 600 DGT

Cheers

Mark Donaldson

Ardmore

NZ

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the list
in my 1952 ed. of the <u>RAC Guide &amp; Handbook</u>, marks ending in
&#8220;GT&#8221; were issued by the London County Council &#8211; but
that&#8217;s all I can tell you.&nbsp; (Apparently, when they ran out of
numbers to use with the 2-letter prefix, an initial letter was added; =
anybody
know when they got to letter =
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face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
[Healeys] British registration number plate<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>I have a set =
of plates
that were on a Mk1 Jaguar imported to <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region
 w:st=3D"on">New Zealand</st1:country-region></st1:place> in the =
sixties.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>The number is =
600 DGT<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>I believe it =
may have
been issued in the greater <st1:city w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
 w:st=3D"on">London</st1:city></st1:place></st1:City> area around =
1958.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font =
size=3D3
color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Can any of =
you British
listers help me identify it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font =
size=3D3
color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Cheers<o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Mark =
Donaldson<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:city w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><font
  size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-family:
  =
Calibri;color:black'>Ardmore</span></font></st1:place></st1:City></st1:ci=
ty><font
size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>NZ<o:p></o:p><=
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Thanks Peter,

As you will have seen in my reply to Sarah, we know the car and its owner.
He was my late brother-in-law.

What I want to establish with 100% certainty is that the registration plates
did come off that Jaguar.

We have been trying to find family correspondence to confirm the number, but
so far have drawn a blank.

We have a photos of it unloaded off the ship in Wellington, but they are
side views and the plates cannot be seen.

I thought the car may have originally been registered in Cheshire, but
south-west London makes more sense as that is where he lived at the time.

Thanks for your constructive help.

Cheers

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Dzwig [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2016 2:30 a.m.
To: Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] British registration number plate

Mark,

I don't really understand the question. Are you looking to identify the car?
or

the owner? or what? or perhaps, as Sarah has implied, the general area of
issue.

FWIW in the UK the licence plate in effect uniquely identifies the vehicle
in

the records of the vehicle licencing authority at the time (presently DVLA).
It

does not carry ownership information which is kept private within DVLA
records.

Therefore there is only a slim chance that your plate's owner(s) can be
identified.

The London County Council was the umbrella council for the whole of the
London

metropolitan area up to the mid '60s when it was replaced by the Grater
London

Council. According to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_United_King
dom,_Crown_dependencies_and_overseas_territories#Older_plates

GT corresponds to a South West London issue (not necessarily where the owner
lived).

My guess is that the letters were issued as and when they were needed, not
on

Strictly all that can be said is that the registration was issued between
about

narrow this down a bit, to 1953 - 1959, probably later in the run. Bear in
mind

Hope that this helps,

Peter Dzwig

> in "GT" were issued by the London County Council - but that's all I can
tell

> an initial letter was added; anybody know when they got to letter "D"?)

> I have a set of plates that were on a Mk1 Jaguar imported to New Zealand
in the sixties.

> Unsubscribe/Manage:
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked] 

Dr Peter Dzwig                                                

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'>Thanks =
Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'>As you will have seen in my =
reply to Sarah,
we know the car and its owner.&nbsp; He was my late =
brother-in-law.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'>What I want to establish with =
100%
certainty is that the registration plates did come off that =
Jaguar.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'>We have been trying to find =
family
correspondence to confirm the number, but so far have drawn a =
blank.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'>We have a photos of it unloaded =
off the
ship in <st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Wellington</st1:place></st1:City>,
but they are side views and the plates cannot be =
seen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'>I thought the car may have =
originally
been registered in <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Cheshire</st1:City>, but =
south-west <st1:City
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">London</st1:place></st1:City> makes =
more sense
as that is where he lived at the time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'>Thanks for your constructive =
help.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3D"#003366" =
face=3DCalibri><span
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#003366'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></p=

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Peter Dzwig [mailto:[email-masked]] <br>
Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2016 2:30 a.m.<br>
To: Healey<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] British registration number =
plate</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I
don't really understand the question. Are you looking to identify the =
car? or<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>the
owner? or what? or perhaps, as Sarah has implied, the general area of =
issue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>FWIW
in the <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>
the licence plate in effect uniquely identifies the vehicle =
in<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>the
records of the vehicle licencing authority at the time (presently DVLA). =
It<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>does
not carry ownership information which is kept private within DVLA =
records.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Of
course we know the identity of some owners of special cars (eg DD300) =
but<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>that
isn't unambiguous - see discussions on these pages over many =
years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Therefore
there is only a slim chance that your plate's owner(s) can be =
identified.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>The
London County Council was the umbrella council for the whole of the =
<st1:City
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">London</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>metropolitan
area up to the mid '60s when it was replaced by the Grater =
London<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Council.
According to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><a
href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_=
United_Kingdom,_Crown_dependencies_and_overseas_territories#Older_plates"=
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_United_=
Kingdom,_Crown_dependencies_and_overseas_territories#Older_plates</a></sp=
an><o:p></o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>GT
corresponds to a South West London issue (not necessarily where the =
owner
lived).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>My
guess is that the letters were issued as and when they were needed, not =
on<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>any
particular timescale, as they were from '63 on when the coding =
system<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>changed.
It is quite possible that they were issued either randomly or, =
more<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>probably,
on a first-come first-served basis.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Strictly
all that can be said is that the registration was issued between =
about<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>1953
and later '62. Since the Mk1 was produced between 1952 and 1959 we =
can<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>narrow
this down a bit, to 1953 - 1959, probably later in the run. Bear in =
mind<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>too
that cars weren't always registered as soon as they were =
built.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hope
that this helps,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Peter
Dzwig<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>On
23/06/2016 19:43, S. Carr wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
According to the list in my 1952 ed. of the _RAC Guide &amp; Handbook_, =
marks
ending<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
in &#8220;GT&#8221; were issued by the London County Council &#8211; but
that&#8217;s all I can tell<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
you.&nbsp; (Apparently, when they ran out of numbers to use with the =
2-letter
prefix,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
an initial letter was added; anybody know when they got to letter
&#8220;D&#8221;?)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
Sarah&nbsp; Carr<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
BN1 in PA (<st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>)<o:p></o:p></span></font=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
*From:* Mark Donaldson =
&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:59 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
*To:* 'AH Mail List' =
&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
*Subject:* [Healeys] British registration number =
plate<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
I have a set of plates that were on a Mk1 Jaguar imported to <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region
 w:st=3D"on">New Zealand</st1:country-region></st1:place> in the =
sixties.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
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The number is 600 DGT<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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I believe it may have been issued in the greater <st1:City =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
 w:st=3D"on">London</st1:place></st1:City> area around =
1958.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Can any of you British listers help me identify =
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Cheers <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
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Mark Donaldson<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&gt;
<st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on">Ardmore</st1:City></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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NZ<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Archive: http://www.team.net/archive<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys<o:p></o:p></span></font></=
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