Subject: [Healeys] Lifter and Cam Wear ZDDP Issue

From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 10:36:20 -0400

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For those of us who have been long term adherents to the theory that
premature cam and lifter failure is attributable to the elimination of Zinc
Dialkyl Dithio Phosphate (ZDDP) from modern oils the following link is to a
very long but thought provoking blog related to the subject.

https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/motor-oil-wear-test-ranking/

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nt-family:Arial">Zinc Dialkyl Dithio Phosphate (ZDDP) from modern oils the =
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From: "Steve B. Gerow" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:42:17 -0800

Thanks to Mike Salter for linking this very interesting blog.

Much to think about.

He advocates using a "thinner" oil if one can do so without losing oil pressure. I may try Valvoline VR1 10w30 next oil change.

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Steve Gerow
BN6
Altadena, CA, USA

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Many years ago, the Southern California AH Club had a seminar with Frank M=
onise, a builder of British cars for racing. At this seminar, Frank talked=
 of the importance of using a good break in oil with ZDDP to get everythin=
g set, but then he shocked everyone with saying after he breaks an engine =
in, he goes full synthetic! And never worries about ZDDP again!=0A=0AThis =
article seems to back him up. I have been running my BN1 for over ten year=
s with 10W30, no ZDDP and my car is running better than ever right now. Wi=
ll it blow up tomorrow? Who knows? It's a Healey and anything is possible,=
 but with oil changes and making sure it doesn't get too low in oil, I jus=
t keep driving and smiling.=0A=0ASteven Kingsbury=0A=0ABN1 #598=0A=0A=0AOn=
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te:=0A=0A=0AOh boy,=C2=A0=0Aa can of worms has been re-opened. I'm already=
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[email-masked]>=0ATo: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked].=
net>=0ASent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 10:36 AM=0ASubject: [Healeys] Lifter an=
d Cam Wear ZDDP Issue=0A=0A=0A=0AFor those of us who have been long term a=
dherents to the theory that premature cam and lifter failure is attributab=
le to the elimination of Zinc Dialkyl Dithio Phosphate (ZDDP) from modern =
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r over ten years with 10W30, no ZDDP and my car is running better than eve=
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