Subject: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface

From: Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 07:29:46 +0000 (UTC)

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What's the best way to drill holes in a painted surface?Mike MacLean

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Use a punch to make a small dimple at the center of the hole to keep the =
drill bit from "walking". =20

Drill normally. =20

Treat bare edges of hole with a metal prep solution to prevent rusting =
(if the material is subject to rust).=20

Prime and paint edges.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  USA

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Michael MacLean
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 3:30 AM
To: Healeys Help
Subject: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface

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What's the best way to drill holes in a painted surface?

Mike MacLean

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MS","serif";color:#002060'>Use a punch to make a small dimple at the =
center of the hole to keep the drill bit from &quot;walking&quot;.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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MS","serif";color:#002060'>Drill normally.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS","serif";color:#002060'>Treat bare edges of hole with a metal prep =
solution to prevent rusting (if the material is subject to rust). =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS","serif";color:#002060'>Prime and paint =
edges.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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MS","serif";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
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Sans MS","serif";color:#002060'>Steve Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael MacLean<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 12, 2016 3:30 =
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 04:26:39 -0700

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I suspect it would depend on type of material, type of paint, condition 
of both, etc. but have always assumed applying some kind of 
tape--electrical, masking, etc.--over and under--if the underneath is 
painted, too--the area to be drilled is about all you can do to prevent 
chipping.  Make sure you use a sharp bit, and a variable speed drill so 
you can start slow to drill through the paint.

Begs the question: do you use a punch to 'prime' the hole--with or 
without tape--before drilling?

Bob

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    I suspect it would depend on type of material, type of paint,
    condition of both, etc. but have always assumed applying some kind
    of tape--electrical, masking, etc.--over and under--if the
    underneath is painted, too--the area to be drilled is about all you
    can do to prevent chipping.  Make sure you use a sharp bit, and a
    variable speed drill so you can start slow to drill through the
    paint.<br>
    <br>
    Begs the question: do you use a punch to 'prime' the hole--with or
    without tape--before drilling?<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
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From: Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 11:44:24 +0000 (UTC)

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Have a just finished BN2 body and have not drilled any holes in it yet.=C2=
=A0 Just don't want to screw up the paint job after costing so much.=C2=A0 =
I had not thought of using a puch to "start" the hole.=C2=A0 Wouldn't that =
crack the paint?Mike
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    On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 4:26 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
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  I suspect it would depend on type of material, type of paint, condition o=
f both, etc. but have always assumed applying some kind of tape--electrical=
, masking, etc.--over and under--if the underneath is painted, too--the are=
a to be drilled is about all you can do to prevent chipping.=C2=A0 Make sur=
e you use a sharp bit, and a variable speed drill so you can start slow to =
drill through the paint.
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 Begs the question: do you use a punch to 'prime' the hole--with or without=
 tape--before drilling?
=20
 Bob
=20
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    I suspect it would depend on type of material, type of paint,
    condition of both, etc. but have always assumed applying some kind
    of tape--electrical, masking, etc.--over and under--if the
    underneath is painted, too--the area to be drilled is about all you
    can do to prevent chipping.&nbsp; Make sure you use a sharp bit, and a
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Well, I=E2=80=99ve always done this.

1)      Put a piece of masking tape over the drilling point. Then =
another over that. Push them down  tight so they=E2=80=99re making close =
fit.

2)      Mark the start position through the tapes with a bradawl.

3)      Start drilling with a hand drill and a small, sharp(!!) drill =
bit. Sharp bit. Slow, steady pressure. Nice and straight so no skidding.

4)      Drill a nice little pilot hole. You should be OK by hand and, =
I=E2=80=99m guessing, that the metal isn=E2=80=99t too thick if =
it=E2=80=99s painted.

5)      Go up a size drill bit and drill with an electric drill, nice =
and steady does it. Keep it slow and straight so it won=E2=80=99t want =
to jump out.

6)      Keep going up in size until you get the right size hole.

Don=E2=80=99t forget what may be lurking on the other side of the =
painted surface...it may not like being drilled!

Simon

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Michael MacLean
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:30
To: Healeys Help
Subject: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface

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D'>Start drilling with a hand drill and a small, sharp(!!) drill bit. =
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D'>Drill a nice little pilot hole. You should be OK by hand and, =
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D'>Go up a size drill bit and drill with an electric drill, nice and =
steady does it. Keep it slow and straight so it won=E2=80=99t want to =
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I don't think the punch would be any worse than the drill, and without 
it the bit will likely skitter across the surface, doing more damage 
than the punch.  I think it's risky no matter how you do it, but at 
least the tape gives you a sporting chance.  What do you need to drill, 
after painting?

On 4/12/2016 4:44 AM, Michael MacLean wrote:
> Have a just finished BN2 body and have not drilled any holes in it 
> yet. Just don't want to screw up the paint job after costing so much.  
> I had not thought of using a puch to "start" the hole. Wouldn't that 
> crack the paint?
> Mike
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 4:26 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>     underneath is painted, too--the area to be drilled is about all
>     you can do to prevent chipping.  Make sure you use a sharp bit,
>     and a variable speed drill so you can start slow to drill through
>     the paint.
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    I don't think the punch would be any worse than the drill, and
    without it the bit will likely skitter across the surface, doing
    more damage than the punch.  I think it's risky no matter how you do
    it, but at least the tape gives you a sporting chance.  What do you
    need to drill, after painting?<br>
    <br>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460461337215_8636">Have a just
          finished BN2 body and have not drilled any holes in it yet. 
          Just don't want to screw up the paint job after costing so
          much.  I had not thought of using a puch to "start" the hole. 
          Wouldn't that crack the paint?</div>
        <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460461337215_8635">Mike<br>
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              <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday,
                  April 12, 2016 4:26 AM, Bob Spidell
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                    <div> I suspect it would depend on type of material,
                      type of paint, condition of both, etc. but have
                      always assumed applying some kind of
                      tape--electrical, masking, etc.--over and
                      under--if the underneath is painted, too--the area
                      to be drilled is about all you can do to prevent
                      chipping.  Make sure you use a sharp bit, and a
                      variable speed drill so you can start slow to
                      drill through the paint.<br clear="none">
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                      Begs the question: do you use a punch to 'prime'
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No, I don't think it would damage the paint that isn't going to be =
drilled out anyway.  That has been my experience.  If possible, you can =
back up the area to be punched with a piece of scrap wood or similar to =
minimize the area affected by punching.

=20

Steve

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Michael MacLean
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:44 AM
To: Bob Spidell; Healeys Help
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface

=20

Have a just finished BN2 body and have not drilled any holes in it yet.  =
Just don't want to screw up the paint job after costing so much.  I had =
not thought of using a puch to "start" the hole.  Wouldn't that crack =
the paint?

Mike

=20

=20

I suspect it would depend on type of material, type of paint, condition =
of both, etc. but have always assumed applying some kind of =
tape--electrical, masking, etc.--over and under--if the underneath is =
painted, too--the area to be drilled is about all you can do to prevent =
chipping.  Make sure you use a sharp bit, and a variable speed drill so =
you can start slow to drill through the paint.

Begs the question: do you use a punch to 'prime' the hole--with or =
without tape--before drilling?

Bob

Mike MacLean

=20

=20

=20

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MS","serif";color:#002060'>No, I don't think it would damage the paint =
that isn't going to be drilled out anyway.=C2=A0 That has been my =
experience.=C2=A0 If possible, you can back up the area to be punched =
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Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael MacLean<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:44 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell; Healeys Help<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460461337215_8636"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'color:black'>Have a just =
finished BN2 body and have not drilled any holes in it yet.&nbsp; Just =
don't want to screw up the paint job after costing so much.&nbsp; I had =
not thought of using a puch to &quot;start&quot; the hole.&nbsp; =
Wouldn't that crack the paint?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
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would depend on type of material, type of paint, condition of both, etc. =
but have always assumed applying some kind of tape--electrical, masking, =
etc.--over and under--if the underneath is painted, too--the area to be =
drilled is about all you can do to prevent chipping.&nbsp; Make sure you =
use a sharp bit, and a variable speed drill so you can start slow to =
drill through the paint.<br><br>Begs the question: do you use a punch to =
'prime' the hole--with or without tape--before =
drilling?<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
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Some drill bits are designed not to "walk", but most are not.  The punch
does not have to go all the way through the material, just make a depression
to guide the point of the bit so it stays where you want it to.  Putting
masking tape over the area wouldn't hurt, but I've never drilled holes that
way.  I don't think electrical tape would work very well because it
stretches and the drill bit may wind it up.  Maybe not, I've never tried it.

Steve

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob
Spidell
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:27 AM
To: Michael MacLean; Healeys Help
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface

I suspect it would depend on type of material, type of paint, condition of
both, etc. but have always assumed applying some kind of tape--electrical,
masking, etc.--over and under--if the underneath is painted, too--the area
to be drilled is about all you can do to prevent chipping.  Make sure you
use a sharp bit, and a variable speed drill so you can start slow to drill
through the paint.

Begs the question: do you use a punch to 'prime' the hole--with or without
tape--before drilling?

Bob

Mike MacLean

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stretches and the drill bit may wind it up.&nbsp; Maybe not, I've never =
tried it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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ext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:27 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Michael MacLean; Healeys Help<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I suspect it would depend on type of =
material, type of paint, condition of both, etc. but have always assumed =
applying some kind of tape--electrical, masking, etc.--over and =
under--if the underneath is painted, too--the area to be drilled is =
about all you can do to prevent chipping.&nbsp; Make sure you use a =
sharp bit, and a variable speed drill so you can start slow to drill =
through the paint.<br><br>Begs the question: do you use a punch to =
'prime' the hole--with or without tape--before =
drilling?<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
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Any time drilling in the sheet metal with paint put painters tape over =
the area first. The use a small 1/8 sharp drill bit first then step up =
to the size you want.

Why are you needing to drill any holes in the car?

If for a mirror we now have one that attaches to the pivot bolt on the =
windshield on the 100 / 4s

David Nock
British Car Specialists
209-948-8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

From: Michael MacLean=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 4:44 AM
To: Bob Spidell ; Healeys Help=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface

  I suspect it would depend on type of material, type of paint, =
condition of both, etc. but have always assumed applying some kind of =
tape--electrical, masking, etc.--over and under--if the underneath is =
painted, too--the area to be drilled is about all you can do to prevent =
chipping.  Make sure you use a sharp bit, and a variable speed drill so =
you can start slow to drill through the paint.

  Bob

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I would use blue masking tape. In case the bit wanders or other mishaps
occur. The blue stuff removes easily and doe snot tend to leave any residue
on the paint.

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Double tape, marker and use one of those stepped drill bits until you 
have the right size hole. Use a variable speed electric drill square on 
the surface and start from zero rpm-slowly. Use some WD40 or machining 
oil for cooling the metal.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 12-4-2016 om 14:26 schreef Bob Spidell:
> least the tape gives you a sporting chance.  What do you need to 
> drill, after painting?
>
>
>> yet. Just don't want to screw up the paint job after costing so 
>> Wouldn't that crack the paint?
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 4:26 AM, Bob Spidell 
>> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     condition of both, etc. but have always assumed applying some
>>     kind of tape--electrical, masking, etc.--over and under--if the
>>     Begs the question: do you use a punch to 'prime' the hole--with
>>     or without tape--before drilling?
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>>     Bob
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Double tape, marker and use one of
      those stepped drill bits until you have the right size hole. Use a
      variable speed electric drill square on the surface and start from
      zero rpm-slowly. Use some WD40 or machining oil for cooling the
      metal.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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      Op 12-4-2016 om 14:26 schreef Bob Spidell:<br>
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      I don't think the punch would be any worse than the drill, and
      without it the bit will likely skitter across the surface, doing
      more damage than the punch.  I think it's risky no matter how you
      do it, but at least the tape gives you a sporting chance.  What do
      you need to drill, after painting?<br>
      <br>
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          <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460461337215_8636">Have a just
            finished BN2 body and have not drilled any holes in it yet. 
            Just don't want to screw up the paint job after costing so
            much.  I had not thought of using a puch to "start" the
            hole.  Wouldn't that crack the paint?</div>
          <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460461337215_8635">Mike<br>
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                      <div> I suspect it would depend on type of
                        material, type of paint, condition of both, etc.
                        but have always assumed applying some kind of
                        tape--electrical, masking, etc.--over and
                        under--if the underneath is painted, too--the
                        area to be drilled is about all you can do to
                        prevent chipping.  Make sure you use a sharp
                        bit, and a variable speed drill so you can start
                        slow to drill through the paint.<br>
                        <br>
                        Begs the question: do you use a punch to 'prime'
                        the hole--with or without tape--before drilling?<br>
                        <br>
                        Bob<br>
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<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div>The holes for the leather strap buckles and the two rear reflector pods.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460487993418_36830">Mike MacLean<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460487993418_36733"><span></span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 5:26 AM, Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br></font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0707490853"><div>
    I don't think the punch would be any worse than the drill, and
    without it the bit will likely skitter across the surface, doing
    more damage than the punch.&nbsp; I think it's risky no matter how you do
    it, but at least the tape gives you a sporting chance.&nbsp; What do you
    need to drill, after painting?<br clear="none">
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    <div class="yiv0707490853yqt1943942738" id="yiv0707490853yqt55210"><div class="yiv0707490853moz-cite-prefix">On 4/12/2016 4:44 AM, Michael MacLean
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        <div id="yiv0707490853yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460461337215_8636">Have a just
          finished BN2 body and have not drilled any holes in it yet.&nbsp;
          Just don't want to screw up the paint job after costing so
          much.&nbsp; I had not thought of using a puch to "start" the hole.&nbsp;
          Wouldn't that crack the paint?</div>
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              <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday,
                  April 12, 2016 4:26 AM, Bob Spidell
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                    <div> I suspect it would depend on type of material,
                      type of paint, condition of both, etc. but have
                      always assumed applying some kind of
                      tape--electrical, masking, etc.--over and
                      under--if the underneath is painted, too--the area
                      to be drilled is about all you can do to prevent
                      chipping.&nbsp; Make sure you use a sharp bit, and a
                      variable speed drill so you can start slow to
                      drill through the paint.<br clear="none">
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                      Begs the question: do you use a punch to 'prime'
                      the hole--with or without tape--before drilling?<br clear="none">
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                      Bob<br clear="none">
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From: Jean Caron <[email-masked]>
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The method I was shown by the bodyman that paints the cars I bring there al=
ways include starting with masking tape, the type used in bodyshop, then ma=
rking the spot you want to drill with a pen on the tape, followed by a punc=
h, then a small hole followed by the correct size if not too large otherwis=
e increase the size gradually. Buy good quality drill bits, they wont have =
as much a tendency to walk, they last a lot longer and can be sharpened. Li=
ke anything nowadays, you get what you pay for.

Jean

________________________________
From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of BJ8Healeys <sby=
[email-masked]>
Sent: April 12, 2016 2:27 PM
To: 'Healeys Help'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface

Some drill bits are designed not to "walk", but most are not.  The punch do=
es not have to go all the way through the material, just make a depression =
to guide the point of the bit so it stays where you want it to.  Putting ma=
sking tape over the area wouldn't hurt, but I've never drilled holes that w=
ay.  I don't think electrical tape would work very well because it stretche=
s and the drill bit may wind it up.  Maybe not, I've never tried it.

Steve

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob Spid=
ell
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:27 AM
To: Michael MacLean; Healeys Help
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface

I suspect it would depend on type of material, type of paint, condition of =
both, etc. but have always assumed applying some kind of tape--electrical, =
masking, etc.--over and under--if the underneath is painted, too--the area =
to be drilled is about all you can do to prevent chipping.  Make sure you u=
se a sharp bit, and a variable speed drill so you can start slow to drill t=
hrough the paint.

Begs the question: do you use a punch to 'prime' the hole--with or without =
tape--before drilling?

Bob

Mike MacLean

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<p>The method I was shown by the bodyman that paints the cars I bring there=
 always include starting with masking tape, the type used in bodyshop, then=
 marking the spot you want to drill with a pen on the tape, followed by a p=
unch, then a small hole followed
 by the correct size if not too large otherwise increase the size gradually=
. Buy good quality drill bits, they wont have as much a tendency to walk, t=
hey last a lot longer and can be sharpened. Like anything nowadays, you get=
 what you pay for.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> April 12, 2016 2:27 PM<br>
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<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;,&quo=
t;serif&quot;; color:#002060">Some drill bits are designed not to &quot;wal=
k&quot;, but most are not.&nbsp; The punch does not have to go all the way =
through the material, just make a depression to guide the point of the
 bit so it stays where you want it to.&nbsp; Putting masking tape over the =
area wouldn't hurt, but I've never drilled holes that way.&nbsp; I don't th=
ink electrical tape would work very well because it stretches and the drill=
 bit may wind it up.&nbsp; Maybe not, I've never
 tried it.</span></p>
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imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: black;">
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text"> Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael MacLean; Healeys Help<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface</span></p>
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imes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: black;">
I suspect it would depend on type of material, type of paint, condition of =
both, etc. but have always assumed applying some kind of tape--electrical, =
masking, etc.--over and under--if the underneath is painted, too--the area =
to be drilled is about all you can
 do to prevent chipping.&nbsp; Make sure you use a sharp bit, and a variabl=
e speed drill so you can start slow to drill through the paint.<br>
<br>
Begs the question: do you use a punch to 'prime' the hole--with or without =
tape--before drilling?<br>
<br>
Bob</p>
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I agree with the use of tape.  Rather than using a punch, I like the 
idea of just using a hand-held sharp drill bit.  Sharp is the key word 
here.  Then gradually open up using bigger drill bits.  When getting 
close to the final size, I use a tapered reamer (by hand). This gives a 
good finish, and also allows close control of the diameter.

Mike

On 4/12/2016 5:21 AM, Simon Lachlan wrote:
>
> Well, I’ve always done this.
>
> 1)Put a piece of masking tape over the drilling point. Then another 
> over that. Push them down  tight so they’re making close fit.
>
> 2)Mark the start position through the tapes with a bradawl.
>
> 3)Start drilling with a hand drill and a small, sharp(!!) drill bit. 
> Sharp bit. Slow, steady pressure. Nice and straight so no skidding.
>
> 4)Drill a nice little pilot hole. You should be OK by hand and, I’m 
> guessing, that the metal isn’t too thick if it’s painted.
>
> 5)Go up a size drill bit and drill with an electric drill, nice and 
> steady does it. Keep it slow and straight so it won’t want to jump out.
>
> 6)Keep going up in size until you get the right size hole.
>
> Don’t forget what may be lurking on the other side of the painted 
> surface...it may not like being drilled!
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of 
> *Michael MacLean
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:30
> *To:* Healeys Help
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
>

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Mike

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    I agree with the use of tape.  Rather than using a punch, I like the
    idea of just using a hand-held sharp drill bit.  Sharp is the key
    word here.  Then gradually open up using bigger drill bits.  When
    getting close to the final size, I use a tapered reamer (by hand). 
    This gives a good finish, and also allows close control of the
    diameter.<br>
    <br>
    Mike<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/12/2016 5:21 AM, Simon Lachlan
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Put
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Start
            drilling with a hand drill and a small, sharp(!!) drill bit.
            Sharp bit. Slow, steady pressure. Nice and straight so no
            skidding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            and steady does it. Keep it slow and straight so it won’t
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                &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">      </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Keep
            going up in size until you get the right size hole.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Don’t
            forget what may be lurking on the other side of the painted
            surface...it may not like being drilled!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <div>
          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                lang="EN-US"> Healeys
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Michael MacLean<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:30<br>
                <b>To:</b> Healeys Help<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460445982370_18849">
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
                style="color:black">What's the best way to drill holes
                in a painted surface?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
                style="color:black">Mike MacLean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:03:47 -0600

i erbs wrote:
> The blue stuff removes easily and doe snot [...]

Doe snot makes an excellent cutting lubricant. Hard to find at the local 
hardware store, though.

mjb.

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From: "John Sims" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 09:08:51 -0400

I have a family of five in the woods behind me -- buck doe and three young
ones. I'll try to catch them and have them blow their nose on a paper towel.
Any bidders?

John Sims
Aberdeen, NJ

www.healey6.com

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Mark J
Bradakis
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:04 AM
To: Healeys Help
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface

mjb.

$12.75

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From: Richard Collins <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:44:05 +0000

But you can find Spit at most swim and dive shops.   :-)

Regards,
Richard C

> On Apr 13, 2016, at 07:36, Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> i erbs wrote:
> Doe snot makes an excellent cutting lubricant. Hard to find at 

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......which reminds me of a real groaner:

Does anyone know the difference between Beer Nuts and Deer Nuts?

Best--Michael Oritt

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:08 AM, John Sims <[email-masked]> wrote:

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">.....=
.which reminds me of a real groaner:=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"c=
olor:#3333ff">Does anyone know the difference between Beer Nuts and Deer Nu=
ts?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr=
 13, 2016 at 9:08 AM, John Sims <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ahb=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have a family of five in the woods behin=
d me -- buck doe and three young<br>
ones. I&#39;ll try to catch them and have them blow their nose on a paper t=
owel.<br>
Any bidders?<br>
<br>
John Sims<br>
Aberdeen, NJ<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www=
.healey6.com</a><br>
<span class=3D""><br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">hea=
[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Mark J<br>
Bradakis<br>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:04 AM<br>
To: Healeys Help<br>
</span><span class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface<br>
<br>
i erbs wrote:<br>
&gt; The blue stuff removes easily and doe snot [...]<br>
<br>
Doe snot makes an excellent cutting lubricant. Hard to find at the local<br=
hardware store, though.<br>
<br>
mjb.<br>
<br>
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Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:27:44 -0700

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picking on the guy with the learning disability... nice move John :)
Please take videos of your trying to get the snot.

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______

> Doe snot makes an excellent cutting lubricant. Hard to find at the local

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<div dir=3D"ltr">picking on the guy with the learning disability... nice mo=
ve John :)<div>Please take videos of your trying to get the snot.</div></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_sig=
nature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<di=
v>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39=
;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-fa=
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________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine an=
d disk brakes</div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 6:08 AM, John Sims <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
I have a family of five in the woods behind me -- buck doe and three young<=
br>
ones. I&#39;ll try to catch them and have them blow their nose on a paper t=
owel.<br>
Any bidders?<br>
<br>
John Sims<br>
Aberdeen, NJ<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www=
.healey6.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">hea=
[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Mark J<br>
Bradakis<br>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:04 AM<br>
To: Healeys Help<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface<br>
<br>
i erbs wrote:<br>
&gt; The blue stuff removes easily and doe snot [...]<br>
<br>
Doe snot makes an excellent cutting lubricant. Hard to find at the local<br=
hardware store, though.<br>
<br>
mjb.<br>
<br>
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rer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a> Suggested annual=
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No winners.

And the answer is that while Deer nuts usually cost about $1.75 Deer nuts
are always under a buck.

Name withheld

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">No wi=
nners. =C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">And the answer =
is that while Deer nuts usually cost about $1.75 Deer nuts are always under=
 a buck.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Name withheld</div><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr =
13, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Michael Oritt <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">......which reminds me of a real=
 groaner:=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Does anyone k=
now the difference between Beer Nuts and Deer Nuts?</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"=
><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:08 AM, John Sims <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have a family of five in t=
he woods behind me -- buck doe and three young<br>
ones. I&#39;ll try to catch them and have them blow their nose on a paper t=
owel.<br>
Any bidders?<br>
<br>
John Sims<br>
Aberdeen, NJ<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www=
.healey6.com</a><br>
<span><br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Mark J<br>
Bradakis<br>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:04 AM<br>
To: Healeys Help<br>
</span><span>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface<br>
<br>
i erbs wrote:<br>
&gt; The blue stuff removes easily and doe snot [...]<br>
<br>
Doe snot makes an excellent cutting lubricant. Hard to find at the local<br=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a><br>
<div><div><br>
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Lemme guess ... If you don't know the difference, we aren't sending you for Beer Nuts ... 

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Best--Michael Oritt 

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:08 AM, John Sims < [email-masked] > wrote: 

John Sims 
Aberdeen, NJ 

www.healey6.com 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Lemme guess ... If you don't know the =
difference, we aren't sending you for Beer Nuts ...<br></div><div><br></div=
><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:no=
rmal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:=
12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: norm=
al; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-si=
ze: 12pt;"><br><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"color:#3333ff" data-mce-style=3D"color: #3333ff;">......which rem=
inds me of a real groaner:&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"color:#3333ff" data-mce-style=3D"color: #3333ff;"><br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff" data-mce-style=3D"color: #3333ff;">D=
oes anyone know the difference between Beer Nuts and Deer Nuts?</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff" data-mce-style=3D"color: #33=
33ff;"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff" data-=
mce-style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:08 AM=
, John Sims <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"m=
argin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">I have =
a family of five in the woods behind me -- buck doe and three young<br> one=
s. I'll try to catch them and have them blow their nose on a paper towel.<b=
r> Any bidders?<br> <br> John Sims<br> Aberdeen, NJ<br> <br> <a href=3D"htt=
p://www.healey6.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"=
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Oh deer, oh deer  . . .   and it's not even Friday.  :-)

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

  _____  

From: Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2016 5:06 a.m.
To: John Sims
Cc: Healeys Help
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface

.......which reminds me of a real groaner: 

Best--Michael Oritt

John Sims
Aberdeen, NJ

www.healey6.com

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Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]] <br>
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2016 5:06
a.m.<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> John Sims<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Healeys Help<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Healeys] =
Holes in
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#3333FF'>Does anyone know the difference =
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Beer Nuts and Deer Nuts?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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three
young<br>
ones. I'll try to catch them and have them blow their nose on a paper =
towel.<br>
Any bidders?<br>
<br>
John Sims<br>
<st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on">Aberdeen</st1:City>, =
<st1:State w:st=3D"on">NJ</st1:State></st1:place><br>
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From: Healeys [mailto:<a =
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..net</a>]
On Behalf Of Mark J<br>
Bradakis<br>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:04 AM<br>
To: Healeys Help<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface<br>
<br>
i erbs wrote:<br>
&gt; The blue stuff removes easily and doe snot [...]<br>
<br>
Doe snot makes an excellent cutting lubricant. Hard to find at the =
local<br>
hardware store, though.<br>
<br>
mjb.<br>
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From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 20:17:47 -0400

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I don't think we do Fridays anymore.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 7:55 PM, Mark Donaldson <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Oh deer, oh deer  . . ..   and it's not even Friday.  J
>
>
>
> Mark
>
> Ardmore, NZ
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Michael Oritt [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 April 2016 5:06 a.m.
> *To:* John Sims
> *Cc:* Healeys Help
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface
>
>
>
> From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]..net
> <[email-masked]>] On Behalf Of Mark J
> Bradakis
> <http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt@gmail..com>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I don=
&#39;t think we do Fridays anymore.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3=
333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 7:55 PM, Mark Donaldson <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">

<u></u>
<u></u>
<u></u>

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an style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy">Oh deer, oh de=
er=C2=A0 . . ..=C2=A0=C2=A0 and it&#39;s not even
Friday.=C2=A0 </span></font><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Wingdings"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:Wingdings;color:navy">J</span></font><font color=3D"nav=
y" face=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri;color:navy"><u></u><=
u></u></span></font></p>

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an style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></font></p>

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an style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy">Mark<u></u><u>=
</u></span></font></p>

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=3D"Calibri"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy=
">Ardmore</span></font><u></u><u></u><font color=3D"navy" face=3D"Calibri">=
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri;color:navy">, NZ<u></u><u></u></span></f=
ont></p>

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an style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
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-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</=
span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
Michael Oritt [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 14 April 201=
6 5:06
a.m.<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> John Sims<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Healeys Help<span class=
=3D""><br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Healeys] Holes=
 in
Painted Surface</span></span></font><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#3333ff" face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#3333ff">......which reminds =
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groaner:=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#3333ff" face=3D"Times New=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#3333ff" face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#3333ff">Does anyone know the=
 difference between
Beer Nuts and Deer Nuts?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#3333ff" face=3D"Times New=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" color=3D"#3333ff" face=3D"Times New=
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e=3D"font-size:12.0pt">On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:08 AM, John Sims &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>

</span><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><span class=3D"">I have a family of five in t=
he woods behind me -- buck doe and three
young<br>
ones. I&#39;ll try to catch them and have them blow their nose on a paper t=
owel.<br>
Any bidders?<br>
<br>
John Sims<br>
<u></u><u></u>Aberdeen<u></u>, <u></u>NJ<u></u><u></u><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com" target=3D"_blank">www.healey6.com</a><br=
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br></span></span></font></p><div><div class=3D"h=
5"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman">
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]..net</a>]
On Behalf Of Mark J<br>
Bradakis<br>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:04 AM<br>
To: Healeys Help<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Holes in Painted Surface<br>
<br>
i erbs wrote:<br>
&gt; The blue stuff removes easily and doe snot [...]<br>
<br>
Doe snot makes an excellent cutting lubricant. Hard to find at the local<br=
hardware store, though.<br>
<br>
mjb.<br>
<br>
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Yes. 

Yes I do.

> Does anyone know the difference between Beer Nuts and Deer Nuts?

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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Yes.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Yes I do.<div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Apr 13, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">......which reminds me of a real groaner:&nbsp;</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Does anyone know the difference between Beer Nuts and Deer Nuts?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>
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And the doe came out of the woods and said, "That's the last time I do =
that for 5 bucks."

On Apr 13, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:

> Lemme guess ... If you don't know the difference, we aren't sending =
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> I have a family of five in the woods behind me -- buck doe and three =
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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"><div>And the doe came out of the woods and said, "That's the last time =
I do that for 5 bucks."</div><br><div><div>On Apr 13, 2016, at 3:15 PM, =
Bob Spidell wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div =
style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div =
aria-label=3D"Compose body">Lemme guess ... If you don't know the =
difference, we aren't sending you for Beer Nuts =
...<br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div =
style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:n=
one;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" =
data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;"><br><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff" data-mce-style=3D"color: =
#3333ff;">......which reminds me of a real groaner:&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff" data-mce-style=3D"color: =
#3333ff;"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff" =
data-mce-style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Does anyone know the difference =
between Beer Nuts and Deer Nuts?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"color:#3333ff" data-mce-style=3D"color: =
#3333ff;"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff" =
data-mce-style=3D"color: #3333ff;">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, =
2016 at 9:08 AM, John Sims <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" =
data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; =
padding-left: 1ex;">I have a family of five in the woods behind me -- =
buck doe and three young<br> ones. I'll try to catch them and have them =
blow their nose on a paper towel.<br> Any bidders?<br> <br> John =
Sims<br> Aberdeen, NJ<br> <br> <a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com/" =
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