Subject: Re: [Healeys] washing my car

From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 22:07:41 -0800

Hi Ira,

Maybe you could get more useful answers if you could tell the list
more details about what you are asking:  kind of soap?,  kind of 'wash
cloth'?, kind of 'chamois'?

Griot's Garage and Maguire have good car soap.  It is hard for me to
imagine what some other soap could do that these don't do.  Costco's
auto soap works for me.

The other materials could be an excellent source of debates.  The goal
of 'wash cloths' is to apply the soapy water and to lift off the dirt
with as little abrasion as possible.  The goal of the 'chamois' is to
remove the water as completely, easily and quickly as possible, again
with as little abrasion as possible.  Real chamois did a good job on
nitrocellulose lacquer and modern paints are a whole lot tougher/  But
there are a lot of cheaper and possibly better new materials to serve
both purposes.  Let the debates begin.  

-Roland
BN1 #724

On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 20:50:39 -0800, you wrote:

>So this will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it 5 years ago. I  had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours on it since the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the rest of the car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here, but I guess its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car with?Thanks all
>Ira Erbs
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From: Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]>
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As long as it's decent car wash, you should be in good shape.  Honestly the
modern paints are so bullet proof it's hard to mess them up.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:50 PM, i erbs <[email-masked]> wrote:

> So this will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it 5
> years ago. I  had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours on it
> since the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the rest
> of the car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here, but I
> guess its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car with?
> Thanks all
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
> 1959 BN4 100-6
> with BT7 engine and disk brakes.
> 1972 Landrover Series III 109 sold
> 2009 MINI cooper S countryman
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<div dir=3D"ltr">As long as it&#39;s decent car wash, you should be in good=
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to mess them up.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:50 PM, i erbs <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
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 will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it 5 years a=
go. I =C2=A0had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours on it sin=
ce the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the rest of t=
he car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here, but I guess =
its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car with?<div>Thanks all<br=
 clear=3D"all"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<di=
v>Portland,OR</div><div>1959 BN4 100-6</div><div>with BT7 engine and disk b=
rakes.=C2=A0</div><div>1972 Landrover Series III 109 sold</div><div>2009 MI=
NI cooper S countryman</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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Personally =E2=80=93 and I think this is a very subjective topic =
=E2=80=93 I buy what one might call =E2=80=9Cany old stuff=E2=80=9D for =
car wash/soap/shampoo as long as it=E2=80=99s cheap. I can then use lots =
of it in lukewarm water and rinse it off immediately and very =
thoroughly.

I think the question might better have been directed to what happens =
after rinsing ......I use a big =E2=80=9Cmicrofibre(?)=E2=80=9D cloth =
and dry it carefully and very thoroughly. Sometimes, and I bet =
you=E2=80=99re hanging onto the edge of your seats by now, I give it a =
final rub down with a soft flannel/yellow duster. (I find that all this =
allows a quiet, almost sub-conscious inspection of the car which may be =
beneficial from time to time).

Polish.....once a year on average. I use Autoglym which I like and =
which, I find, the family gives me faster than I can use it! Not sure if =
it=E2=80=99s sold out of UK.

I suppose the trick is to get a decent surface onto your paint that =
allows one to get the dirt off without resorting to too much rubbing and =
scrubbing??

I don=E2=80=99t do any of this very often......a peck of dirt never hurt =
as they say. I attend one car show a year, primarily for the beer, and I =
do give it a good session before that; I suppose the public pay to get =
in and one should present them with the best that one can?

Enough banalities...

Simon

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of i =
erbs
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 4:51
To: Ahealey help
Subject: [Healeys] washing my car

=20

So this will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it =
5 years ago. I  had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours on =
it since the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the =
rest of the car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here, =
but I guess its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car with?

Thanks all

Ira Erbs

Portland,OR

1959 BN4 100-6

with BT7 engine and disk brakes.=20

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D'>Personally =E2=80=93 and I think this is a very subjective topic =
=E2=80=93 I buy what one might call =E2=80=9Cany old stuff=E2=80=9D for =
car wash/soap/shampoo as long as it=E2=80=99s cheap. I can then use lots =
of it in lukewarm water and rinse it off immediately and very =
thoroughly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I think the question might better have been directed to what happens =
after rinsing ......I use a big =E2=80=9Cmicrofibre(?)=E2=80=9D cloth =
and dry it carefully and very thoroughly. Sometimes, and I bet =
you=E2=80=99re hanging onto the edge of your seats by now, I give it a =
final rub down with a soft flannel/yellow duster. (I find that all this =
allows a quiet, almost sub-conscious inspection of the car which may be =
beneficial from time to time).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Polish.....once a year on average. I use Autoglym which I like and =
which, I find, the family gives me faster than I can use it! Not sure if =
it=E2=80=99s sold out of UK.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I suppose the trick is to get a decent surface onto your paint that =
allows one to get the dirt off without resorting to too much rubbing and =
scrubbing??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I don=E2=80=99t do any of this very often......a peck of dirt never =
hurt as they say. I attend one car show a year, primarily for the beer, =
and I do give it a good session before that; I suppose the public pay to =
get in and one should present them with the best that one =
can?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Enough banalities...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>i =
erbs<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 4, 2016 4:51<br><b>To:</b> =
Ahealey help<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] washing my =
car<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>So this =
will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it 5 years =
ago. I &nbsp;had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours on it =
since the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the =
rest of the car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here, =
but I guess its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car =
with?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks all<br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ira Erbs<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Portland,OR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>1959 BN4 100-6<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>with BT7 engine and disk =
brakes.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>1972 =
Landrover Series III 109 sold<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>2009 MINI cooper S =
countryman<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
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From: Al Malin <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 09:39:46 -0500

junkman2000 recommends the “two bucket wash”

Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w09r6m6sRCA

Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWAbo3RvW_A

Part 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQklBySgv9M

Part 4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWnbAxhjgrE

Part 5"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnjeHGhFepw

Al Malin
Tricarb

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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 15:27:41 +0000

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Ira,

I am sure you will get a variety of responses on this one. You have worked =
on this car for a long time and now it's time to enjoy it and I am sure you=
 do.

I wash mine in a car wash most time, lot easier to get the small stones out=
 of the rear fenders area, dry it with a chamois and microfiber. It's a car=
, no matter what you do, eventually it will get swirls in the paint, there =
will be stone chips, scratches etc. just enjoy and drive.

If I wanted a car to look at, I would have bought a model of it and put it =
on the mantle at home.

Jean

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of i erbs
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 4:51
To: Ahealey help
Subject: [Healeys] washing my car

So this will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it 5 =
years ago. I  had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours on it s=
ince the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the rest of=
 the car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here, but I gues=
s its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car with?

Thanks all

Ira Erbs

Portland,OR

1959 BN4 100-6

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<p>Ira,</p>
<p>I am sure you will get a variety of responses on this one. You have work=
ed on this car for a long time and now it's time to enjoy it and I am sure =
you do.
<br>
</p>
<p>I wash mine in a car wash most time, lot easier to get the small stones =
out of the rear fenders area, dry it with a chamois and microfiber. It's a =
car, no matter what you do, eventually it will get swirls in the paint, the=
re will be stone chips, scratches
 etc. just enjoy and drive. <br>
</p>
<p>If I wanted a car to look at, I would have bought a model of it and put =
it on the mantle at home.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Jean<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>i erbs<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 4, 2016 4:51<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahealey help<br>
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So this will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it 5 =
years ago. I &nbsp;had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours on=
 it since the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the re=
st of the car is dirty. Not trying to
 ask the best oil question here, but I guess its pretty close. What should =
I use to clean my car with?</p>
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Portland,OR</p>
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with BT7 engine and disk brakes.&nbsp;</p>
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1972 Landrover Series III 109 sold</p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;T=
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2009 MINI cooper S countryman</p>
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Agreed (do not use dish soap unless you want to remove wax and possibly damage the paint!). I think the most important thing is to use soft water--if your local supply is hard, you'll need a softener--else you'll likely get spotting. 

Oh, and do not wash your car in Flint, MI. 

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As long as it's decent car wash, you should be in good shape. Honestly the modern paints are so bullet proof it's hard to mess them up. 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:50 PM, i erbs < [email-masked] > wrote: 

So this will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it 5 years ago. I had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours on it since the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the rest of the car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here, but I guess its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car with? 
Thanks all 
Ira Erbs 
Portland,OR 
1959 BN4 100-6 
with BT7 engine and disk brakes. 
1972 Landrover Series III 109 sold 
2009 MINI cooper S countryman 

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soft water--if your local supply is hard, you'll need a softener--else you'=
ll likely get spotting.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Oh, and do not wash yo=
ur car in Flint, MI.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr=
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<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">As long as it's decent car wash, you should be i=
n good shape.&nbsp; Honestly the modern paints are so bullet proof it's har=
d to mess them up.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:50 PM, i erbs <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
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s will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it 5 years =
ago. I &nbsp;had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours on it si=
nce the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the rest of =
the car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here, but I guess=
 its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car with?<div>Thanks all<b=
r clear=3D"all"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<d=
iv>Portland,OR</div><div>1959 BN4 100-6</div><div>with BT7 engine and disk =
brakes.&nbsp;</div><div>1972 Landrover Series III 109 sold</div><div>2009 M=
INI cooper S countryman</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:07:14 -0500

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I take my car to the local =E2=80=9CTopless car wash=E2=80=9D  I figure if =
the soap is good enough for their beautiful bodies=E2=80=A6.its good enough=
 for my Healey =F0=9F=98=8A=F0=9F=98=8A

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Bob Spidell
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 11:47 AM
Cc: healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] washing my car

Agreed (do not use dish soap unless you want to remove wax and possibly dam=
age the paint!).=C2=A0 I think the most important thing is to use soft wate=
r--if your local supply is hard, you'll need a softener--else you'll likely=
 get spotting.

As long as it's decent car wash, you should be in good shape.=C2=A0 Honestl=
y the modern paints are so bullet proof it's hard to mess them up.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:50 PM, i erbs <[email-masked]> wrote:
So this will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it 5 =
years ago. I =C2=A0had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours on=
 it since the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the re=
st of the car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here, but I=
 guess its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car with?
Thanks all

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
1959 BN4 100-6
with BT7 engine and disk brakes.=C2=A0
1972 Landrover Series III 109 sold
2009 MINI cooper S countryman

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ir beautiful bodies=E2=80=A6.its good enough for my Healey <span style=3D'f=
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bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><br><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">Bob Spidell</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, February 4=
, 2016 11:47 AM<br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">hea=
leys</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] washing my car</p></div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",=
serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font=
-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Agreed (do not use=
 dish soap unless you want to remove wax and possibly damage the paint!).&n=
bsp; I think the most important thing is to use soft water--if your local s=
upply is hard, you'll need a softener--else you'll likely get spotting.</sp=
an><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:bla=
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n></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Oh, and do not wash your car in Flin=
t, MI.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
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v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helveti=
ca",sans-serif;color:black'>As long as it's decent car wash, you should be =
in good shape.&nbsp; Honestly the modern paints are so bullet proof it's ha=
rd to mess them up.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:blac=
k'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>On Thu, Feb 4=
, 2016 at 12:50 PM, i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><block=
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an style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black=
'>So this will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it =
5 years ago. I &nbsp;had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours =
on it since the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the =
rest of the car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here, but=
 I guess its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car with?<o:p></o:=
p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks all<br clear=3Dall><o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Ira Er=
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</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>with BT7 engine and disk br=
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e=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>1972 =
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oNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;=
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From: Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:22:13 +0000 (UTC)

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I know there are going to be varying opinions, but since I finished the res=
to on my Bugeye back in 2000 I have never washed my car.=C2=A0 I have used =
Dri Wash N Guard waterless car wash exclusively.=C2=A0 It leaves the paint =
so slick, it feels like glass and rain will just bead right off.=C2=A0 I ha=
ve not noticed any swirls in the paint even though I have "washed" the car =
when it was dirty by spraying this stuff on then letting dry to a haze and =
then polishing it off.=C2=A0 Can't say enough about how good the paint stil=
l looks.=C2=A0 After a half dozen or so applications, all you need is a wet=
 cloth to clean the car off, then dry.Mike MacLean
=20

    On Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:50 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:
=20
=20

 Agreed (do not use dish soap unless you want to remove wax and possibly da=
mage the paint!).=C2=A0 I think the most important thing is to use soft wat=
er--if your local supply is hard, you'll need a softener--else you'll likel=
y get spotting.

So this will sound weird, but I have not washed my car since painting it 5 =
years ago. I =C2=A0had not really been driven. I have put about 15 hours on=
 it since the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and the re=
st of the car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here, but I=
 guess its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car with?Thanks all
Ira ErbsPortland,OR1959 BN4 100-6with BT7 engine and disk brakes.=C2=A01972=
 Landrover Series III 109 sold2009 MINI cooper S countryman

[email-masked]

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 be varying opinions, but since I finished the resto on my Bugeye back in 2=
000 I have never washed my car.&nbsp; I have used Dri Wash N Guard waterles=
s car wash exclusively.&nbsp; It leaves the paint so slick, it feels like g=
lass and rain will just bead right off.&nbsp; I have not noticed any swirls=
 in the paint even though I have "washed" the car when it was dirty by spra=
ying this stuff on then letting dry to a haze and then polishing it off.&nb=
sp; Can't say enough about how good the paint still looks.&nbsp; After a ha=
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nbsp; I think the most important thing is to use soft water--if your local =
supply is hard, you'll need a softener--else you'll likely get spotting.<br=
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 it 5 years ago. I &nbsp;had not really been driven. I have put about 15 ho=
urs on it since the end of Nov and my lower rear wings have road dreck and =
the rest of the car is dirty. Not trying to ask the best oil question here,=
 but I guess its pretty close. What should I use to clean my car with?<div>=
Thanks all<br clear=3D"all"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div>1959 BN4 100-6</div><div>with BT7 engi=
ne and disk brakes.&nbsp;</div><div>1972 Landrover Series III 109 sold</div=
><div>2009 MINI cooper S countryman</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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Thanks,
This is what I was looking for. Someone who had used the waterless
cleaners. Its cold and wet outside right now so this should work. How does
it work on Black stuff on the lower rear fenders?

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
1959 BN4 100-6

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> I know there are going to be varying opinions, but since I finished the
> resto on my Bugeye back in 2000 I have never washed my car.  I have used
> Dri Wash N Guard waterless car wash exclusively.  It leaves the paint so
> slick, it feels like glass and rain will just bead right off.  I have not
> noticed any swirls in the paint even though I have "washed" the car when it
> was dirty by spraying this stuff on then letting dry to a haze and then
> polishing it off.  Can't say enough about how good the paint still looks.
> After a half dozen or so applications, all you need is a wet cloth to clean
> the car off, then dry.
> Mike MacLean
>
>
> On Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:50 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Agreed (do not use dish soap unless you want to remove wax and possibly
> damage the paint!).  I think the most important thing is to use soft
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,<div>This is what I was looking for. Someone who ha=
d used the waterless cleaners. Its cold and wet outside right now so this s=
hould work. How does it work on Black stuff on the lower rear fenders?</div=
><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs=
<div>Portland,OR</div><div>1959 BN4 100-6</div><div>with BT7 engine and dis=
k brakes.</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Michael MacL=
ean <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-f=
amily:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>I know there are going to be varying opinions, but since I finished the re=
sto on my Bugeye back in 2000 I have never washed my car.=C2=A0 I have used=
 Dri Wash N Guard waterless car wash exclusively.=C2=A0 It leaves the paint=
 so slick, it feels like glass and rain will just bead right off.=C2=A0 I h=
ave not noticed any swirls in the paint even though I have &quot;washed&quo=
t; the car when it was dirty by spraying this stuff on then letting dry to =
a haze and then polishing it off.=C2=A0 Can&#39;t say enough about how good=
 the paint still looks.=C2=A0 After a half dozen or so applications, all yo=
u need is a wet cloth to clean the car off, then dry.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Mike MacLean<br></div><div><span></span></div> <div><br><br></div><div sty=
le=3D"display:block"> <div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,ti=
mes,serif;font-size:16px"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetic=
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lass=3D"h5"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thursday,=
 February 4, 2016 8:50 AM, Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comca=
st.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></font></d=
iv> </div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);m=
argin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px"> <br><br> <div><div><div cl=
ass=3D"h5"><div><div><div style=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#=
000000"><div>Agreed (do not use dish soap unless you want to remove wax and=
 possibly damage the paint!).=C2=A0 I think the most important thing is to =
use soft water--if your local supply is hard, you&#39;ll need a softener--e=
lse you&#39;ll likely get spotting.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div>Oh, and do not wash your car in Flint, MI.<div><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div></div><div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=
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sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A=
s long as it&#39;s decent car wash, you should be in good shape.=C2=A0 Hone=
stly the modern paints are so bullet proof it&#39;s hard to mess them up.</=
div><div><br clear=3D"none"><div>On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:50 PM, i erbs <s=
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y lower rear wings have road dreck and the rest of the car is dirty. Not tr=
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should I use to clean my car with?<div>Thanks all<br clear=3D"all"><div><di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div=
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Whatever you use, *use something*.  Leaving the car dirty is bad for the
paint and the spirit.
Plus everyone knows that a freshly washed car runs better and is definitely
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