Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 9, Issue 48 / Cooling issue

From: george mcharris <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 20:31:02 +0000

I had the exact condition with my BN2 until I installed a large bladed "Flex Fan". I got mine from Summit Racing.  I think it is a GM product.  The fan comes in several sizes . I used a 15.25" dia on the 100 that allows unuf clearance.  You do need to install a spacer as the blades are so wide.  Amazing improvement !!!!

George McHarris

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   1. Re: sealing washers on side covers (Steve Gerow)
   2. Re: Texas Kooler ([email-masked])
   3. Re: Texas Kooler (Steven Kingsbury)
   4. Re: Texas Kooler (Team.net)
   5. Re: sealing washers on side covers (Richard Collins)
   6. Re: painting metallic colour (J. Scott Morris)
   7. Re: get a load of this one.. (rrengineer.mike)
   8. Re: Washer question (Auto Farm)
   9. Re: get a load of this one.. (Tom Felts)
  10. Re: get a load of this one.. (Alan Seigrist)
  11. Re: get a load of this one.. (Bob Spidell)
  12. Re: get a load of this one.. (Tom Felts)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 12:11:38 -0800
From: "Steve Gerow" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] sealing washers on side covers

The Moss catalog shows the cup washer and rubber tube washer on the outside
of the cover.

I redid mine over 10 years ago with Hylomar on the cork gaskets and white
nylon sealing washers under the bolt heads. They've never leaked a drop.

--

Steve Gerow

Altadena, CA, USA

BN6 - 29D 3000 & 4 whl disc brakes

Check out my galleries:

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 15:21:55 -0500
From: <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Texas Kooler
        reply-type=original

Here's my story about a cooling solution. I bought my BN2 in '99 and endured
cooling issues until finally solving it in 2007.  I had installed a Texas
Cooler with no measureable improvement.  I installed a newly rebuilt engine
in 2007 and experienced the same problem. As long as I was driving - moving
at any speed - it kept the temperature okay, but the moment I stopped the
car, whether at a traffic light or worse, in traffic, I could look down and
see the temperature rising. If I was in traffic, it wasn't long before I was
in trouble.

I sent my radiator out to be re-cored high efficiency, or whatever they
called it. When I reinstalled it there was no difference. I then installed
an electric pusher fan in front, but still no difference except that it
seemed to interfere with cooling when driving. The pusher was removed.
After searching the internet for solutions, I came across the Flex-a-lite
site. There were many choices and I don't recall which one I ordered, but
can find out if anyone is interested. I got the fan, removed the Texas
Cooler and had to make two modifications; I had to trim the size down about
1/4" on each blade to clear the water return hose and I had to make an
adapter for the mount. I made the adapter from aluminum to fit over the
engine mount. I might still have the drawing somewhere.  They warn no to
alter the fan, but I did anyway. It is important to make the changes the
same to each blade so it stays in balance.

To my delight the cooling issue disappeared. Apparently the flex fan sucked
the air through the radiator like the stock and Texas Cooler couldn't.  Very
shortly thereafter I hit the road to Conclave in Burlington with my new
engine and cooling fan. Fingers crossed as Charleston to Burlington and back
is quite a hike. All went well and as expected, I ran into traffic on Rt. 95
going past DC. Came to a full stop and sat there in 95? heat. I was a bit
nervous about that, but to my amazement the water temp never went above 190?
if I remember correctly. In any case, I had no problems at all and ever
since.

Regards,
Mike L.
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From: Bob Brown <[email-masked]>
To: Healey List <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] Texas Kooler
Message-ID:
<[email-masked]>

Recently asked by a friend " Are there any Texas Kooler fans still
available? if so where?"
As an alternative, is there a equivalent commercially available alternative?
TIABob

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:24:10 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steven Kingsbury <[email-masked]>
To: Bob Brown <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Texas Kooler

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 16:09:53 -0500
From: "Team.net" <[email-masked]>
To: Steven Kingsbury <[email-masked]>
Cc: Bob Brown <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Texas Kooler

Got the same fan from BCS; works really well.

Larry
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Steven Kingsbury <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Bob,
> I got a fan for my 100 from David Nock and I love it. It's not a Texas Kooler, it's a stainless steel fan that works really well. David has British Car Specialists out of Stockton, CA. NFI, just satisfied. And I can got back to stock any time I want.
> Steven Kingsbury
> BN1 #598
>
> On Feb 14, 2016, at 09:43 AM, Bob Brown <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>> Recently asked by a friend " Are there any Texas Kooler fans still available? if so where?"
>>
>> As an alternative, is there a equivalent commercially available alternative?
>>
>> TIA
>> Bob
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 23:33:34 +0000
From: Richard Collins <[email-masked]>
To: Steve Gerow <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] sealing washers on side covers
Message-ID:
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I did the same thing (cork and hylomar) about 3 years ago and no issues since.

Regards,
Richard C

The Moss catalog shows the cup washer and rubber tube washer on the outside of the cover.

I redid mine over 10 years ago with Hylomar on the cork gaskets and white nylon sealing washers under the bolt heads. They've never leaked a drop.

--

Steve Gerow
Altadena, CA, USA
BN6 - 29D 3000 & 4 whl disc brakes
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 00:01:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: "J. Scott Morris" <[email-masked]>
To: Andy Thorp <[email-masked]>,  "[email-masked]"
        <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] painting metallic colour
Message-ID:
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Good DayAndy;? You may find the attached summaryby Rich Chrysler and John Harper to be of some interest.?--Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives

    On Monday, February 8, 2016 2:20 AM, Andy Thorp <[email-masked]> wrote:

 In the not too distant future I'm hoping to finally get the BN4 off to the paint shop. As the final colour is Healey blue, I got to wondering how the boot (trunk) lid was painted originally given that the hinges cover part of the painted surface. Were they masked off? Were dummy hinges installed for painting? Was the lid painted off the car, if so how was the metallic consistency maintained?

Can anyone shed some light on this mystery?

Cheers,
Andy.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 19:27:40 -0800
From: "rrengineer.mike" <[email-masked]>
To: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>, Bob Spidell
        <[email-masked]>
Cc: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..

Sorry. Used to the Spridgets list where we can say anything we want.Mike

Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S? 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>
Date: 2/14/2016  5:25 AM  (GMT-08:00)
To: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>, Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
Cc: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..

I'm going to assume that maybe someone else has said this, but to me these kinds of political BS comments has no place on this list.?
Tom
---- Michael MacLean <[email-masked]> wrote:

=============
I moved here in 1971. It was a very different place back then.? Not as crowded and not as regulated in all aspects of life.? These days you can't keep up with all the nanny state laws being passed every year.? You can be a law abiding citizen one day and a potential felon the next.? Every year brings more regulations and control over almost everything you do.? Let's not get started on the gun control issue.? Now they can take all your firearms with no crime having been committed. All someone has to do is convince a judge you MIGHT do something to yourself or someone else.? If that is not the thought police, I don't know what is.? Yes, you don't have to smog a car made before 1975, but every year some lame brain democrat will introduce a bill to make ALL cars have to undergo smog either retro actively or be destroyed even though they do not contribute even 1 percent of the smog to California.? That bimbo from the San Francisco are Fran Pavley tried to get all motorcycles have to under
 go smog tests retroactively back many years over a certain engine size.? Never mind motorcycles are not ridden as much or as often as automobiles or are a mall percentage of all vehicles on the road.? Luckily it was defeated.? It all started going down hill when the legislature in California went for being is session for six months out of the year to year round.? Yes Bob I do feel free to leave this quagmire of rules and control of personal liberties. Every one of my hobbies I will pursue when I retire is now being controlled by either the state of California or as in my radio control hobby the federal government being the FAA in particular.? The FAA wants to treat my 7 pound model airplane that does not fly out of my sight or place anyone or anything in danger like all aircraft and make me be licensed to fly it. of course the license is not free.? You have to pay for the government to control you.? I retire from the railroad at the end of the year and am seriously eyeing Arizona as
  a retirement destination.? At least there I don't worry about? an new firearm law being passed every 5 minutes.Mike MacLean?

??? On Friday, February 12, 2016 12:52 PM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

 There is no 'tax' on installing K&N filters in California, and I've never seen any 'sticker' on the filters.? There is a sticker that comes with K&Ns--I bought one for my '96 Ranger many years ago--that you affix in a visible location in the engine bay that attests that the filter is in compliance with CARB rules.? We've had the truck smogged 8-9 times since then, with no issues.? See:
http://www.knfilters.com/streetlegal.htm

But, why let facts get in the way of California-bashing?? And, if 'Kalifornia' is so rotten, why did you move here (you aren't required to smog an out-of-state vehicle unless you are attempting to register it here; again, more of them pesky, fun-spoiling facts). And, none of our Healeys require smog testing in 'Kalifornia' (thanks Pete Wilson), and there are no mandatory, arbitrary 'safety' or 'roadworthy' inspections.
Feel free to leave California at any time.
Regards,
Bob

I had a K & N air filter on my German car when I took it from KY to Kalifornia. It did not have the Kalifornia special tax paid sticker on it so I was failed at the smog test.Rather than spend $350 to get the same thing with a sticker on it, I reinstalled the OEM system and passed no issue. I asked to be retested and the results were worse than with the K & N. Interesting what a little Kalifornia EPA mandated sticker can do: support the politicians ?

Regards,Richard C

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 07:13:54 -0500
From: "Auto Farm" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Simon Lachlan'" <[email-masked]>,
        <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Washer question

Simon, we have been using the rubber and cup washers from the MGB for a long
time now on the two rear covers.  You have to use a longer bolt, but it is
very effective for stopping the seep from the center bolt hole.

Cheers.Bob

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Simon
Lachlan
Sent: February-14-16 12:15 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] Washer question

Not the most helpful topic title but here goes anyhow.........In a 3000:-

There are three so-called "Cover, cylinder side" on the RHS of the engine.
That is to say three little hatches through which one accesses the push rods
etcetc. The generator is mounted on the front one; the breather comes off
the rear one. So....

Mine have always seeped a little oil, nothing much but I decided to sort it
out. I ordered three new cork gaskets and the appropriate washers and seals
for the bolts that hold the covers onto the block. Somewhat to my surprise I
received:

1)       3 little bits of black rubber which resemble sections of rubber
tubing about 6mm long and about 4mm across. They are, it seems, designed to
go under the cover and but up against it to help prevent the outward creep
of oil. The bolts would pass through them and slightly squash them in order
that they fill the space around the bolt. See what I mean?????

2)      3 little flat fibre washers.

Now, it is these latter about whom I am confused. The tops of the covers has
a slightly "dished" area through which the bolts access the block. Into that
dished area go, on my car at least, shaped copper washers that are, I
suppose, designed to take up the slack somehow. But how will a flat fibre
washer cope with a washer in a dished area without being crushed, breaking
and thus rendered useless? Are the fibre washers to go under the copper,
over the copper or instead of it? Or could they be designed to sit between
the rubber and the inside face of the covers? ie they'd be tucked away
inside the covers.

These parts are not in the BMC parts book.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Simon

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 8:15:40 -0500
From: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>
To: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>,  "rrengineer.mike"
        <[email-masked]>
Cc: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..

Wow--how lucky finding a car list that talks cars/politics/religion/race/who is an idiot and who is not/maybe a little profanity---on and on.  As difficult as it is to find a source for this type of stuff in todays world, maybe I should join the Spridget list.

---- "rrengineer.mike" <[email-masked]> wrote:

=============

Sorry. Used to the Spridgets list where we can say anything we want.Mike

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-------- Original message --------
From: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>
Date: 2/14/2016  5:25 AM  (GMT-08:00)
To: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>, Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
Cc: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..

I'm going to assume that maybe someone else has said this, but to me these kinds of political BS comments has no place on this list.?
Tom
---- Michael MacLean <[email-masked]> wrote:

=============
I moved here in 1971. It was a very different place back then.? Not as crowded and not as regulated in all aspects of life.? These days you can't keep up with all the nanny state laws being passed every year.? You can be a law abiding citizen one day and a potential felon the next.? Every year brings more regulations and control over almost everything you do.? Let's not get started on the gun control issue.? Now they can take all your firearms with no crime having been committed. All someone has to do is convince a judge you MIGHT do something to yourself or someone else.? If that is not the thought police, I don't know what is.? Yes, you don't have to smog a car made before 1975, but every year some lame brain democrat will introduce a bill to make ALL cars have to undergo smog either retro actively or be destroyed even though they do not contribute even 1 percent of the smog to California.? That bimbo from the San Francisco are Fran Pavley tried to get all motorcycles have to under
 go smog tests retroactively back many years over a certain engine size.? Never mind motorcycles are not ridden as much or as often as automobiles or are a mall percentage of all vehicles on the road.? Luckily it was defeated.? It all started going down hill when the legislature in California went for being is session for six months out of the year to year round.? Yes Bob I do feel free to leave this quagmire of rules and control of personal liberties. Every one of my hobbies I will pursue when I retire is now being controlled by either the state of California or as in my radio control hobby the federal government being the FAA in particular.? The FAA wants to treat my 7 pound model airplane that does not fly out of my sight or place anyone or anything in danger like all aircraft and make me be licensed to fly it. of course the license is not free.? You have to pay for the government to control you.? I retire from the railroad at the end of the year and am seriously eyeing Arizona as
  a retirement destination.? At least there I don't worry about? an new firearm law being passed every 5 minutes.Mike MacLean?

??? On Friday, February 12, 2016 12:52 PM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

 There is no 'tax' on installing K&N filters in California, and I've never seen any 'sticker' on the filters.? There is a sticker that comes with K&Ns--I bought one for my '96 Ranger many years ago--that you affix in a visible location in the engine bay that attests that the filter is in compliance with CARB rules.? We've had the truck smogged 8-9 times since then, with no issues.? See:
http://www.knfilters.com/streetlegal.htm

But, why let facts get in the way of California-bashing?? And, if 'Kalifornia' is so rotten, why did you move here (you aren't required to smog an out-of-state vehicle unless you are attempting to register it here; again, more of them pesky, fun-spoiling facts). And, none of our Healeys require smog testing in 'Kalifornia' (thanks Pete Wilson), and there are no mandatory, arbitrary 'safety' or 'roadworthy' inspections.
Feel free to leave California at any time.
Regards,
Bob

I had a K & N air filter on my German car when I took it from KY to Kalifornia. It did not have the Kalifornia special tax paid sticker on it so I was failed at the smog test.Rather than spend $350 to get the same thing with a sticker on it, I reinstalled the OEM system and passed no issue. I asked to be retested and the results were worse than with the K & N. Interesting what a little Kalifornia EPA mandated sticker can do: support the politicians ?

Regards,Richard C

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 21:58:30 +0800
From: Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]>
To: Healey list <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..
Message-ID:
        <CAFBXTkLzvq-apZAMmj9e8m02X=[email-masked]>

I felt his post, whilst political, certainly revolved around classic cars
and wasn't just some Trump/Sanders rant.  I didn't see any profanity
either.  He apologized, maybe cut him a teeny weeny bit of slack.

Speaking of California cars and politics - why is it that no one in
California seems to care that the State of California took 24 years to
build the East Bay span of the Bay Bridge... A job that would have taken
only 24 to 36 months in the rest of the US & world?  Not a single breath or
sneeze about corruption in California, amazing!  Maybe it would be good if
more people did speak up.
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 06:15:39 -0800
From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
To: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..

We care.  And, don't get us started on the fact that when the span was
completed, it was defective.   I'm not aware of any (proven) corruption,
just the usual bureaucratic inertia and backroom dealing you find
everywhere.  There is a lot of obstructionism from greenies, who would
if they could do away with cars and roads altogether (a lot of our roads
are being put on 'diets,' where ato lanes are replaced by bike paths
wide enough to drive a semi through).

To answer your question, Alan, it just goes along with the fact the the
US is no longer a 'can do' nation.  We're overextended--militarily,
economically, you name it--and one gets the feeling our citizens are
just hanging in, getting what we can while we can, and aren't interested
in accomplishing 'big things,' or even just fixing what we have.  IIRC,
you live in or near China, which has a different model and much more
concentrated political control; it will be interesting to see if that
model works better in the long run (my bet: it won't).

And, while the problems are often national, California gets the bulk of
the heat because we're usually in the forefront of all change, for
better or worse.

Don't worry, we can handle it.

Cheers,
Bob

On 2/15/2016 5:34 AM, Alan Seigrist wrote:
> I felt his post, whilst political, certainly revolved around
> classic cars and wasn't just some Trump/Sanders rant.  I didn't see
> any profanity either.  He apologized, maybe cut him a teeny weeny bit
> of slack.
>
> Speaking of California cars and politics - why is it that no one in
> California seems to care that the State of California took 24 years to
> build the East Bay span of the Bay Bridge... A job that would have
> taken only 24 to 36 months in the rest of the US & world?  Not a
> single breath or sneeze about corruption in California, amazing!
> Maybe it would be good if more people did speak up.
>
>

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:05:02 -0500
From: Tom Felts <[email-masked]>
To: Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]>, Healey list
        <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] get a load of this one..

I will---The best my lame brain democrat brain can:):):)

tom
---- Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]> wrote:

=============
I felt his post, whilst political, certainly revolved around classic cars
and wasn't just some Trump/Sanders rant.  I didn't see any profanity
either.  He apologized, maybe cut him a teeny weeny bit of slack.

Speaking of California cars and politics - why is it that no one in
California seems to care that the State of California took 24 years to
build the East Bay span of the Bay Bridge... A job that would have taken
only 24 to 36 months in the rest of the US & world?  Not a single breath or
sneeze about corruption in California, amazing!  Maybe it would be good if
more people did speak up.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 20:40:30 +0000 (UTC)

Folks,

         I remember a couple years ago someone had put together a couple pages of directions on how to restore the cracked plastic on an original steering wheel.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I have one that I would like to clean up.

Thanks in advance,
Mike Brouillette
59 BT7

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From: "John Sims" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 15:51:49 -0500

Try
http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Werner/Restoring%20Bakelite.pdf

John Sims
Aberdeen, NJ

www.healey6.com

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:41 PM
To: Healey list
Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel restoration

Folks,

         I remember a couple years ago someone had put together a couple
pages of directions on how to restore the cracked plastic on an original
steering wheel.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?  I have one
that I would like to clean up.

Thanks in advance,
Mike Brouillette
59 BT7
$12.75

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From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 20:56:54 +0000 (UTC)

Thanks John, but I am looking for the article that talks about filling in cracks in the bakelite not just cleaning it.

Mike

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From: "John Sims" <[email-masked]>
To: "m brouillette" <[email-masked]>, "Healey list" <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:51:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Steering wheel restoration

Try

John Sims
Aberdeen, NJ

www.healey6.com

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Folks,

Thanks in advance,
Mike Brouillette
59 BT7

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Thanks John for your work on maintaining your website.

What do folks use for filler?

 - Tom

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks John for your work on maintaining your website.<div=
><br></div><div>What do folks use for filler?</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=
=A0- Tom</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:51 PM, John Sims <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Try<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Werner/Restoring%20Bakelite.pdf=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Wer=
ner/Restoring%20Bakelite.pdf</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
John Sims<br>
Aberdeen, NJ<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www=
.healey6.com</a><br>
<span class=3D""><br>
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From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">hea=
[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><=
br>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:41 PM<br>
To: Healey list<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel restoration<br>
<br>
Folks,<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I remember a couple years ago someone had=
 put together a couple<br>
pages of directions on how to restore the cracked plastic on an original<br=
steering wheel.=C2=A0 Can anyone point me in the right direction?=C2=A0 I h=
ave one<br>
that I would like to clean up.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance,<br>
Mike Brouillette<br>
59 BT7<br>
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I learnt from a professionel steering wheel restorer to use PC-7 epoxy.

Josef Eckert

Germany

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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Steering wheel restoration

Datum: 2016-02-15T21:58:13+0100

Von: "Tom" <[email-masked]>

An: "John Sims" <[email-masked]>

 
 
 - Tom

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:51 PM, John Sims <[email-masked]
  Try
  http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Werner/Restoring%20Bakelite.pdf
  <http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Werner/Restoring%20Bakelite.pdf>

  John Sims
  Aberdeen, NJ

  www.healey6.com <http://www.healey6.com>

  -----Original Message-----
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  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:41 PM
  To: Healey list
  Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel restoration

  Folks,

  Thanks in advance,
  Mike Brouillette
  59 BT7
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;col=
or:#000000;text-decoration:none">I learnt from a professionel steering whee=
l restorer to use PC-7 epoxy.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;col=
or:#000000;text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"><span style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;tex=
t-decoration:none">Josef Eckert</span></span></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;col=
or:#000000;text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"><span style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;tex=
t-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Germany</span></span></spa=
n></span></p>
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<p>Datum: 2016-02-15T21:58:13+0100</p>
<p>Von: "Tom" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</p>
<p>An: "John Sims" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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a,sans-serif;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks John for your work on maintaining your website.
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>What do folks use for filler?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;- Tom</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br />
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:51 PM, John Sims <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br />
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:=
 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">Try<br /> <a href=3D"http://www.healey=
6.com/Technical/Werner/Restoring%20Bakelite.pdf" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://=
www.healey6.com/Technical/Werner/Restoring%20Bakelite.pdf</a><br /> <br /> =
<br /> <br /> John Sims<br /> Aberdeen, NJ<br /> <br /> <a href=3D"http://w=
ww.healey6.com" rel=3D"noreferrer">www.healey6.com</a><br /> <span class=3D=
""><br /> -----Original Message-----<br /> From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>]=
 On Behalf Of<br /> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">m.brouille=
[email-masked]</a><br /> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:41 PM<br /> To:=
 Healey list<br /> Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel restoration<br /> <br =
/> Folks,<br /> <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I remember a coupl=
e years ago someone had put together a couple<br /> pages of directions on =
how to restore the cracked plastic on an original<br /> steering wheel.&nbs=
p; Can anyone point me in the right direction?&nbsp; I have one<br /> that =
I would like to clean up.<br /> <br /> Thanks in advance,<br /> Mike Brouil=
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Hi Tom,
Repairing a wheel is a long process but excellent results can be achieved w=
ith patience.
You need another wheel to provide donor material.
Break off pieces of the donor wheel plastic, it is not Bakelite, and dissol=
ve them in acetone to produce a paste about the consistently of mixed epoxy=
.
After removing all the loose pieces on the wheel you are restoring prime th=
e area of be repaired with acetone and then apply the paste while the prime=
d areas are still wet. It will require several coats.
Fine sanding and polishing will produce a great result.
I actually finally paint the entire rim with 2 part epoxy paint when the re=
pairs are finished.
Expect to spend many many hours to repair a badly cracked wheel.... That is=
 why there are so many woodrim wheels around =F0=9F=98=8A=20
Michael S
BN1 #174

-----Original Message-----
From: "Tom" <[email-masked]>
Sent: =E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E02/=E2=80=8E2016 9:57 a.m.
To: "John Sims" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "Healey list" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering wheel restoration

 - Tom

Try

John Sims
Aberdeen, NJ

www.healey6.com

-----Original Message-----

Folks,

Thanks in advance,
Mike Brouillette
59 BT7

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=3Dutf-8"></head><body><div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; =
font-size: 11pt;">Hi Tom,<br>Repairing a wheel is a long process but excell=
ent results can be achieved with patience.<br>You need another wheel to pro=
vide donor material.<br>Break off pieces of the donor wheel plastic, it is =
not Bakelite, and dissolve them in acetone to produce a paste about the con=
sistently of mixed epoxy.<br>After removing all the loose pieces on the whe=
el you are restoring prime the area of be repaired with acetone and then ap=
ply the paste while the primed areas are still wet. It will require several=
 coats.<br>Fine sanding and polishing will produce a great result.<br>I act=
ually finally paint the entire rim with 2 part epoxy paint when the repairs=
 are finished.<br>Expect to spend many many hours to repair a badly cracked=
 wheel.... That is why there are so many woodrim wheels around =F0=9F=98=8A=
 <br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"f=
ont-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: =
</span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Tom</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-f=
amily: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </spa=
n><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=
=8E16/=E2=80=8E02/=E2=80=8E2016 9:57 a.m.</span><br><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">To: </span><s=
pan style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">John Sims</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-famil=
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n style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">Healey list</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-=
family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: <=
/span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Re:=
 [Healeys] Steering wheel restoration</span><br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Thanks John for your work on maintaining your website.<div><br></div><div>W=
hat do folks use for filler?</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;- Tom</div></di=
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border-left-style: solid;">Try<br>=0A=
<a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Werner/Restoring%20Bakelite.pdf=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Wer=
ner/Restoring%20Bakelite.pdf</a><br>=0A=
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[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of<br>=0A=
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From: "John Spaur" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:03:23 -0800

I would not recommend restoring the original plastic steering wheels when
excellent reproductions are available.

The reason the plastic has cracked is because water has penetrated the wheel
and it has started to oxidize the metal reinforcement which has expanded and
cracked the wheel. That process may of slowed down, but it will never stop.

I stored an original wheel in my garage for several years intending to
restore it. It appeared to be in the same reasonable shape when I went to
inspect it in preparation for restoration. When I pull at parts of it that
looked to be in good shape, it  just crumbled in my hands.

John Spaur
'62 BT7

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"I would not recommend restoring the original plastic steering wheels when
excellent reproductions are available."
I would have to concur with John on that. However, if you are looking to
restore a very early 100 wheel, either adjustable or non adjustable  17"
diameter or a 16 1/2" non adjustable wheel they are unavailable in
reproductions so extreme measures are called for!!!
The last wheel that I restored using the acetone method, suggested to me by
Bob Yule BTW, was on #174 andthe result was good enough to score concours
gold at Gettysburg and shows no signs of cracking  3 years after I finished
restoring it.
I believe that the real problem is that the plastic used to make these
wheels originally tends to shrink over time and eventually cracks appear to
relieve the resulting tensile stress.
In my experience any filler material, other than the original, fails to
bond strongly and as a result cracks appear at the material boundaries very
quickly.

Just sayin'

Michael S

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">&quot;I would not recommend restoring the=
 original plastic steering wheels when<br>
excellent reproductions are available.&quot;<br>I would have to concur with=
 John on that. However, if you are looking to restore a very early 100 whee=
l, either adjustable or non adjustable=C2=A0 17&quot; diameter or a 16 1/2&=
quot; non adjustable wheel they are unavailable in reproductions so extreme=
 measures are called for!!!<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">The last wheel that I=
 restored using the acetone method, suggested to me by Bob Yule BTW, was on=
 #174 andthe result was good enough to score concours gold at Gettysburg an=
d shows no signs of cracking=C2=A0 3 years after I finished restoring it.<b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,san=
s-serif;font-size:small">I believe that the real problem is that the plasti=
c used to make these wheels originally tends to shrink over time and eventu=
ally cracks appear to relieve the resulting tensile stress. <br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-=
size:small">In my experience any filler material, other than the original, =
fails to bond strongly and as a result cracks appear at the material bounda=
ries very quickly.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Just sayin&#39;<br><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-ser=
if;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:03 PM, John Spaur <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">I would not recommend restoring the original plastic steering wheel=
s when<br>
excellent reproductions are available.<br>
<br>
The reason the plastic has cracked is because water has penetrated the whee=
l<br>
and it has started to oxidize the metal reinforcement which has expanded an=
d<br>
cracked the wheel. That process may of slowed down, but it will never stop.=
<br>
<br>
I stored an original wheel in my garage for several years intending to<br>
restore it. It appeared to be in the same reasonable shape when I went to<b=
r>
inspect it in preparation for restoration. When I pull at parts of it that<=
br>
looked to be in good shape, it=C2=A0 just crumbled in my hands.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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&#39;62 BT7<br>
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From: Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 18:32:26 -0800

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Hi All

I have to agree with John Spaur and Michael Salter that restoring an
original wheel is hit and miss at best.  It is so difficult that both Roger
Moment and Don Fisher recast their wheels on the original frames versus
trying to repair/restore them.  Don is not only a dentist but has taught at
the UCLA dental school for over 50 years, so casting the wheel was not
difficult for him.  The same with Roger whose fabrication skills are second
to none and his recast wheel was nothing short of brilliant.  BTW Roger
initially repaired his wheel and it cracked again in short order which is
why he re-cast it.

Also as the trafficator/Bakelite expert I can state the the steering wheels
were NOT Bakelite but plastic.  See attached photos of my restored '55 BN1
wheel that never had any cracks whatsoever.  I just lightly sanded and
polished the rim and painted the hub with a high quality epoxy enamel.

Better yet, buy a correct period wooden wheel from Michael Lempert as I
also have one of his wheels for my car.

Cheers,

Curt Arndt
Carlsbad, CA
'55 BN1, '60 AN5 :{)

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> The last wheel that I restored using the acetone method, suggested to me
> by Bob Yule BTW, was on #174 andthe result was good enough to score
> concours gold at Gettysburg and shows no signs of cracking  3 years after I
> finished restoring it.
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi All<br><br></div>I h=
ave to agree with John Spaur and Michael Salter that restoring an original =
wheel is hit and miss at best.=C2=A0 It is so difficult that both Roger Mom=
ent and Don Fisher recast their wheels on the original frames versus trying=
 to repair/restore them.=C2=A0 Don is not only a dentist but has taught at =
the UCLA dental school for over 50 years, so casting the wheel was not diff=
icult for him.=C2=A0 The same with Roger whose fabrication skills are secon=
d to none and his recast wheel was nothing short of brilliant.=C2=A0 BTW Ro=
ger initially repaired his wheel and it cracked again in short order which =
is why he re-cast it.<br><br></div>Also as the trafficator/Bakelite expert =
I can state the the steering wheels were NOT Bakelite but plastic.=C2=A0 Se=
e attached photos of my restored &#39;55 BN1 wheel that never had any crack=
s whatsoever.=C2=A0 I just lightly sanded and polished the rim and painted =
the hub with a high quality epoxy enamel.<br><br></div>Better yet, buy a co=
rrect period wooden wheel from Michael Lempert as I also have one of his wh=
eels for my car.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br><br></div>Curt Arndt<br></div>Carl=
sbad, CA<br></div>&#39;55 BN1, &#39;60 AN5 :{)<br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Mic=
hael Salter <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span class=3D""=
>&quot;I would not recommend restoring the original plastic steering wheels=
 when<br>
excellent reproductions are available.&quot;<br></span>I would have to conc=
ur with John on that. However, if you are looking to restore a very early 1=
00 wheel, either adjustable or non adjustable=C2=A0 17&quot; diameter or a =
16 1/2&quot; non adjustable wheel they are unavailable in reproductions so =
extreme measures are called for!!!<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">The last wheel=
 that I restored using the acetone method, suggested to me by Bob Yule BTW,=
 was on #174 andthe result was good enough to score concours gold at Gettys=
burg and shows no signs of cracking=C2=A0 3 years after I finished restorin=
g it.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans=
 ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I believe that the real problem is that the=
 plastic used to make these wheels originally tends to shrink over time and=
 eventually cracks appear to relieve the resulting tensile stress. <br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-seri=
f;font-size:small">In my experience any filler material, other than the ori=
ginal, fails to bond strongly and as a result cracks appear at the material=
 boundaries very quickly.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Just sayin&#39;<b=
r><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 =
at 5:03 PM, John Spaur <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jmsdarch@sbc=
global.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">I would not recom=
mend restoring the original plastic steering wheels when<br>
excellent reproductions are available.<br>
<br>
The reason the plastic has cracked is because water has penetrated the whee=
l<br>
and it has started to oxidize the metal reinforcement which has expanded an=
d<br>
cracked the wheel. That process may of slowed down, but it will never stop.=
<br>
<br>
I stored an original wheel in my garage for several years intending to<br>
restore it. It appeared to be in the same reasonable shape when I went to<b=
r>
inspect it in preparation for restoration. When I pull at parts of it that<=
br>
looked to be in good shape, it=C2=A0 just crumbled in my hands.<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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&#39;62 BT7<br>
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What about chips in the hub paint. Any ideas on matching the black
thickness?

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Also as the trafficator/Bakelite expert I can state the the steering
> wheels were NOT Bakelite but plastic.  See attached photos of my restored
> '55 BN1 wheel that never had any cracks whatsoever.  I just lightly sanded
> and polished the rim and painted the hub with a high quality epoxy enamel.
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">What about chips in the hub paint. Any ideas on matching t=
he black thickness?</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-family:&=
#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;=
Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman=
&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span>=
<br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=
=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div></div></div></div></div></div></=
div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Curtis Arnd=
t <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi All<br><br></di=
v>I have to agree with John Spaur and Michael Salter that restoring an orig=
inal wheel is hit and miss at best.=C2=A0 It is so difficult that both Roge=
r Moment and Don Fisher recast their wheels on the original frames versus t=
rying to repair/restore them.=C2=A0 Don is not only a dentist but has taugh=
t at the UCLA dental school for over 50 years, so casting the wheel was not=
 difficult for him.=C2=A0 The same with Roger whose fabrication skills are =
second to none and his recast wheel was nothing short of brilliant.=C2=A0 B=
TW Roger initially repaired his wheel and it cracked again in short order w=
hich is why he re-cast it.<br><br></div>Also as the trafficator/Bakelite ex=
pert I can state the the steering wheels were NOT Bakelite but plastic.=C2=
=A0 See attached photos of my restored &#39;55 BN1 wheel that never had any=
 cracks whatsoever.=C2=A0 I just lightly sanded and polished the rim and pa=
inted the hub with a high quality epoxy enamel.<br><br></div>Better yet, bu=
y a correct period wooden wheel from Michael Lempert as I also have one of =
his wheels for my car.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br><br></div>Curt Arndt<br></di=
v>Carlsbad, CA<br></div>&#39;55 BN1, &#39;60 AN5 :{)<br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h5">On Mon,=
 Feb 15, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Michael Salter <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><di=
v class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span>&quot;I would not re=
commend restoring the original plastic steering wheels when<br>
excellent reproductions are available.&quot;<br></span>I would have to conc=
ur with John on that. However, if you are looking to restore a very early 1=
00 wheel, either adjustable or non adjustable=C2=A0 17&quot; diameter or a =
16 1/2&quot; non adjustable wheel they are unavailable in reproductions so =
extreme measures are called for!!!<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">The last wheel=
 that I restored using the acetone method, suggested to me by Bob Yule BTW,=
 was on #174 andthe result was good enough to score concours gold at Gettys=
burg and shows no signs of cracking=C2=A0 3 years after I finished restorin=
g it.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans=
 ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I believe that the real problem is that the=
 plastic used to make these wheels originally tends to shrink over time and=
 eventually cracks appear to relieve the resulting tensile stress. <br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-seri=
f;font-size:small">In my experience any filler material, other than the ori=
ginal, fails to bond strongly and as a result cracks appear at the material=
 boundaries very quickly.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Just sayin&#39;<b=
r><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:03 PM,=
 John Spaur <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>I would not recommend restoring the ori=
ginal plastic steering wheels when<br>
excellent reproductions are available.<br>
<br>
The reason the plastic has cracked is because water has penetrated the whee=
l<br>
and it has started to oxidize the metal reinforcement which has expanded an=
d<br>
cracked the wheel. That process may of slowed down, but it will never stop.=
<br>
<br>
I stored an original wheel in my garage for several years intending to<br>
restore it. It appeared to be in the same reasonable shape when I went to<b=
r>
inspect it in preparation for restoration. When I pull at parts of it that<=
br>
looked to be in good shape, it=C2=A0 just crumbled in my hands.<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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Ira,

I completely stripped and repainted my hub.  I used a spray can Appliance
Epoxy enamel.

C

> What about chips in the hub paint. Any ideas on matching the black

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Ira,<br><br>I completely stripped and repainted my hu=
b.=C2=A0 I used a spray can Appliance Epoxy enamel.<br><br></div>C<br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 15, =
2016 at 6:54 PM, i erbs <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">What about chips in the hub p=
aint. Any ideas on matching the black thickness?</div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#=
39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Ro=
man&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</sp=
an><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D=
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=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div></div></div></div></div></div=
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h5">On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 =
at 6:32 PM, Curtis Arndt <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cnaarndt@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></d=
iv></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi All<br><br></div>I have to agree=
 with John Spaur and Michael Salter that restoring an original wheel is hit=
 and miss at best.=C2=A0 It is so difficult that both Roger Moment and Don =
Fisher recast their wheels on the original frames versus trying to repair/r=
estore them.=C2=A0 Don is not only a dentist but has taught at the UCLA den=
tal school for over 50 years, so casting the wheel was not difficult for hi=
m.=C2=A0 The same with Roger whose fabrication skills are second to none an=
d his recast wheel was nothing short of brilliant.=C2=A0 BTW Roger initiall=
y repaired his wheel and it cracked again in short order which is why he re=
-cast it.<br><br></div>Also as the trafficator/Bakelite expert I can state =
the the steering wheels were NOT Bakelite but plastic.=C2=A0 See attached p=
hotos of my restored &#39;55 BN1 wheel that never had any cracks whatsoever=
.=C2=A0 I just lightly sanded and polished the rim and painted the hub with=
 a high quality epoxy enamel.<br><br></div>Better yet, buy a correct period=
 wooden wheel from Michael Lempert as I also have one of his wheels for my =
car.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br><br></div>Curt Arndt<br></div>Carlsbad, CA<br>=
</div>&#39;55 BN1, &#39;60 AN5 :{)<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Micha=
el Salter <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:sma=
ll"><span>&quot;I would not recommend restoring the original plastic steeri=
ng wheels when<br>
excellent reproductions are available.&quot;<br></span>I would have to conc=
ur with John on that. However, if you are looking to restore a very early 1=
00 wheel, either adjustable or non adjustable=C2=A0 17&quot; diameter or a =
16 1/2&quot; non adjustable wheel they are unavailable in reproductions so =
extreme measures are called for!!!<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">The last wheel=
 that I restored using the acetone method, suggested to me by Bob Yule BTW,=
 was on #174 andthe result was good enough to score concours gold at Gettys=
burg and shows no signs of cracking=C2=A0 3 years after I finished restorin=
g it.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans=
 ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I believe that the real problem is that the=
 plastic used to make these wheels originally tends to shrink over time and=
 eventually cracks appear to relieve the resulting tensile stress. <br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-seri=
f;font-size:small">In my experience any filler material, other than the ori=
ginal, fails to bond strongly and as a result cracks appear at the material=
 boundaries very quickly.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Just sayin&#39;<b=
r><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:03 PM,=
 John Spaur <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>I would not recommend restoring the ori=
ginal plastic steering wheels when<br>
excellent reproductions are available.<br>
<br>
The reason the plastic has cracked is because water has penetrated the whee=
l<br>
and it has started to oxidize the metal reinforcement which has expanded an=
d<br>
cracked the wheel. That process may of slowed down, but it will never stop.=
<br>
<br>
I stored an original wheel in my garage for several years intending to<br>
restore it. It appeared to be in the same reasonable shape when I went to<b=
r>
inspect it in preparation for restoration. When I pull at parts of it that<=
br>
looked to be in good shape, it=C2=A0 just crumbled in my hands.<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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Roger Moment asked me to share this with the group.

Randy,
=20
Attached is a note I wrote years ago on steering wheels.  It was =
published in the Austin-Healey Magazine (publication of the AHCUSA). but =
I don=E2=80=99t recall just when. Anyhow, you=E2=80=99re welcome to =
share it with the forum if there=E2=80=99s a way to attach it to a note.
=20
Finally, John Spaur=E2=80=99s comment about buying new wheels (instead =
of bothering to restore originals) is fine except that there is no =
reproduction of the 100 non-adjustable wheel.  It differs from =
6-cylinder non-adjustable one in two significant ways:
=20
1)  the spokes come together more closely at the rim, with equal and =
small spacing between each of the four
=20
2)  the finger grips are rather smooth bumps spaced quite a ways apart =
=E2=80=93 you can see their shape in the upper left corner of my photo.
=20
You can share the photo as well.  Please let me know if you are able to =
share with the forum.
=20
Roger

> On Feb 15, 2016, at 5:03 PM, John Spaur <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
> I would not recommend restoring the original plastic steering wheels =
when
>=20
> The reason the plastic has cracked is because water has penetrated the =
wheel
> and it has started to oxidize the metal reinforcement which has =
expanded and
> cracked the wheel. That process may of slowed down, but it will never =
stop.
>=20
> restore it. It appeared to be in the same reasonable shape when I went =
to
> inspect it in preparation for restoration. When I pull at parts of it =
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Roger Moment asked me to share =
this with the group.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Randy,<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Attached is a note =
I wrote years ago on steering wheels. &nbsp;It was published in the =
Austin-Healey Magazine (publication of the&nbsp;AHCUSA). but I don=E2=80=99=
t recall just when. Anyhow, you=E2=80=99re welcome to share it with the =
forum if there=E2=80=99s a way to attach it to a note.<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Finally, John Spaur=E2=80=99s comment =
about buying new wheels (instead of bothering to restore originals) is =
fine&nbsp;except&nbsp;that&nbsp;there is no&nbsp;reproduction of the =
100&nbsp;non-adjustable&nbsp;wheel. &nbsp;It differs from 6-cylinder =
non-adjustable one in two significant ways:<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">1) &nbsp;the spokes come together more closely at the rim, =
with equal and small spacing between each of the four<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">2) &nbsp;the finger grips are rather =
smooth bumps spaced quite a ways apart =E2=80=93 you can see their shape =
in the upper left corner of my&nbsp;photo.<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">You can share the photo as well. &nbsp;Please let me know if =
you are able to share with the forum.<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">Roger</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><img height=3D"480" width=3D"640" apple-width=3D"yes" =
apple-height=3D"yes" apple-inline=3D"yes" =
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apple-inline=3D"yes" id=3D"167A9A3D-3791-4D11-8BB6-BE1B530699CA" =
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class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Feb 15, 2016, at 5:03 =
PM, John Spaur &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I would not recommend restoring the original plastic steering =
wheels when<br class=3D"">excellent reproductions are available.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The reason the plastic has cracked is because =
water has penetrated the wheel<br class=3D"">and it has started to =
oxidize the metal reinforcement which has expanded and<br =
class=3D"">cracked the wheel. That process may of slowed down, but it =
will never stop.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I stored an original wheel =
in my garage for several years intending to<br class=3D"">restore it. It =
appeared to be in the same reasonable shape when I went to<br =
class=3D"">inspect it in preparation for restoration. When I pull at =
parts of it that<br class=3D"">looked to be in good shape, it &nbsp;just =
crumbled in my hands.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">John Spaur<br =
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I don=E2=80=99t reply too often, but this was a fantastic post. Thank =
you.

Rohan.

*******************************
Rohan (aka Aussie)
=E2=80=9956 Longbridge BN4 =E2=80=9CHellouise"

> On Feb 17, 2016, at 7:30 AM, Randy Hicks <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =20
> You can share the photo as well.  Please let me know if you are able =
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> =20
> Roger
>=20
>=20
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> <100 non-adjustable - back.jpg>
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>=20
>=20
>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 5:03 PM, John Spaur <[email-masked] =
>>=20
when
>> The reason the plastic has cracked is because water has penetrated =
the wheel
expanded and
stop.
>>=20
>> I stored an original wheel in my garage for several years intending =
to
>> restore it. It appeared to be in the same reasonable shape when I =
went to
that
>> looked to be in good shape, it  just crumbled in my hands.

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class=3D"">I don=E2=80=99t reply too often, but this was a fantastic =
post. Thank you.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Rohan.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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0px;" class=3D"">Rohan (aka Aussie)<br class=3D"">=E2=80=9956 Longbridge =
BN4&nbsp;=E2=80=9CHellouise"</p>
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 17, 2016, at 7:30 AM, Randy Hicks &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Roger Moment asked me =
to share this with the group.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Randy,<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Attached is a note =
I wrote years ago on steering wheels. &nbsp;It was published in the =
Austin-Healey Magazine (publication of the&nbsp;AHCUSA). but I don=E2=80=99=
t recall just when. Anyhow, you=E2=80=99re welcome to share it with the =
forum if there=E2=80=99s a way to attach it to a note.<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">Finally, John Spaur=E2=80=99s comment =
about buying new wheels (instead of bothering to restore originals) is =
fine&nbsp;except&nbsp;that&nbsp;there is no&nbsp;reproduction of the =
100&nbsp;non-adjustable&nbsp;wheel. &nbsp;It differs from 6-cylinder =
non-adjustable one in two significant ways:<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">1) &nbsp;the spokes come together more closely at the rim, =
with equal and small spacing between each of the four<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"">2) &nbsp;the finger grips are rather =
smooth bumps spaced quite a ways apart =E2=80=93 you can see their shape =
in the upper left corner of my&nbsp;photo.<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">You can share the photo as well. &nbsp;Please let me know if =
you are able to share with the forum.<br class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"">Roger</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><span =
id=3D"cid:[email-masked]">&lt;IM=
G_7319.JPG&gt;</span></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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G_7320.JPG&gt;</span></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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0 non-adjustable - back.jpg&gt;</span></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><span =
id=3D"cid:[email-masked]">&lt;st=
eering wheel0001.jpg&gt;</span></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">On Feb 15, 2016, at 5:03 PM, John Spaur &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I would not recommend restoring the original plastic steering =
wheels when<br class=3D"">excellent reproductions are available.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The reason the plastic has cracked is because =
water has penetrated the wheel<br class=3D"">and it has started to =
oxidize the metal reinforcement which has expanded and<br =
class=3D"">cracked the wheel. That process may of slowed down, but it =
will never stop.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I stored an original wheel =
in my garage for several years intending to<br class=3D"">restore it. It =
appeared to be in the same reasonable shape when I went to<br =
class=3D"">inspect it in preparation for restoration. When I pull at =
parts of it that<br class=3D"">looked to be in good shape, it &nbsp;just =
crumbled in my hands.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">John Spaur<br =
class=3D"">'62 BT7<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
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