Subject: Re: [Healeys] Shelby

From: HealeyRick <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:25:21 -0500

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The way I heard the story was that Shelby wanted to put a Chevy motor into
the Healey.  Chevy didn't want to sell the motors (perhaps because they
didn't want competition for the Corvette) and BMC didn't want the Healey
chassis to go to Shelby.  I think DMH would have welcomed more power in the
Healey. OTOH, if DMH stopped using the BMC 6 motor, it would have cost BMC
some money, so I can see why BMC wouldn't want Shelby to get the Healey
chassis.  Can't say I know "for sure", but that's the story I heard.

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

> So, I'm reading (yet another) Shelby/Mustang story in the Jan. issue of
> 'Auto Restorer' magazine, and it claims 'Donald Healey refused to sell
> Shelby rolling chassis for his new sports car (me: the Cobra) because he
> feared it would best his Austin-Healeys in competition--which, of course,
> it did.'
>
> I've always heard/read the DMH was OK with the idea, but BMC was not.
> Anyone know for sure?  I believe DMH and CS were friends.
>
> Bob
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The way I heard the story was that Shelby wanted to put a =
Chevy motor into the Healey.=C2=A0 Chevy didn&#39;t want to sell the motors=
 (perhaps because they didn&#39;t want competition for the Corvette) and BM=
C didn&#39;t want the Healey chassis to go to Shelby.=C2=A0 I think DMH wou=
ld have welcomed more power in the Healey. OTOH, if DMH stopped using the B=
MC 6 motor, it would have cost BMC some money, so I can see why BMC wouldn&=
#39;t want Shelby to get the Healey chassis.=C2=A0 Can&#39;t say I know &qu=
ot;for sure&quot;, but that&#39;s the story I heard.</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:12 AM, =
Bob Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex">So, I&#39;m reading (yet another) Shelby/Mustang story i=
n the Jan. issue of &#39;Auto Restorer&#39; magazine, and it claims &#39;Do=
nald Healey refused to sell Shelby rolling chassis for his new sports car (=
me: the Cobra) because he feared it would best his Austin-Healeys in compet=
ition--which, of course, it did.&#39;<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve always heard/read the DMH was OK with the idea, but BMC was not.=
=C2=A0 Anyone know for sure?=C2=A0 I believe DMH and CS were friends.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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From: Jonas Payne <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:32:09 -0800

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Pontiac has a sweet ohc 6 at the time, wonder if anybody has ever put one of=
 those in?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2015, at 4:25 PM, HealeyRick <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> The way I heard the story was that Shelby wanted to put a Chevy motor into=
 the Healey.  Chevy didn't want to sell the motors (perhaps because they did=
n't want competition for the Corvette) and BMC didn't want the Healey chassi=
s to go to Shelby.  I think DMH would have welcomed more power in the Healey=
. OTOH, if DMH stopped using the BMC 6 motor, it would have cost BMC some mo=
ney, so I can see why BMC wouldn't want Shelby to get the Healey chassis.  C=
an't say I know "for sure", but that's the story I heard.
>=20
>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>> So, I'm reading (yet another) Shelby/Mustang story in the Jan. issue of '=
Auto Restorer' magazine, and it claims 'Donald Healey refused to sell Shelby=
 rolling chassis for his new sports car (me: the Cobra) because he feared it=
 would best his Austin-Healeys in competition--which, of course, it did.'
>>=20
>> I've always heard/read the DMH was OK with the idea, but BMC was not.  An=
yone know for sure?  I believe DMH and CS were friends.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Pontiac has a sweet ohc 6 at the time,=
 wonder if anybody has ever put one of those in?<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<=
/div><div><br>On Jan 24, 2015, at 4:25 PM, HealeyRick &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">The way I heard the story was that S=
helby wanted to put a Chevy motor into the Healey.&nbsp; Chevy didn't want t=
o sell the motors (perhaps because they didn't want competition for the Corv=
ette) and BMC didn't want the Healey chassis to go to Shelby.&nbsp; I think D=
MH would have welcomed more power in the Healey. OTOH, if DMH stopped using t=
he BMC 6 motor, it would have cost BMC some money, so I can see why BMC woul=
dn't want Shelby to get the Healey chassis.&nbsp; Can't say I know "for sure=
", but that's the story I heard.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Bob Spidell <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">bspidell=
@comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">So, I'm r=
eading (yet another) Shelby/Mustang story in the Jan. issue of 'Auto Restore=
r' magazine, and it claims 'Donald Healey refused to sell Shelby rolling cha=
ssis for his new sports car (me: the Cobra) because he feared it would best h=
is Austin-Healeys in competition--which, of course, it did.'<br>
<br>
I've always heard/read the DMH was OK with the idea, but BMC was not.&nbsp; A=
nyone know for sure?&nbsp; I believe DMH and CS were friends.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:39:10 +0000 (UTC)

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Yep .... the article mentioned Shelby first wanted Chevy engines, but Chevy indeed didn't want the competition for the 'Vette. 

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The way I heard the story was that Shelby wanted to put a Chevy motor into the Healey. Chevy didn't want to sell the motors (perhaps because they didn't want competition for the Corvette) and BMC didn't want the Healey chassis to go to Shelby. I think DMH would have welcomed more power in the Healey. OTOH, if DMH stopped using the BMC 6 motor, it would have cost BMC some money, so I can see why BMC wouldn't want Shelby to get the Healey chassis. Can't say I know "for sure", but that's the story I heard. 

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Bob Spidell < [email-masked] > wrote: 

So, I'm reading (yet another) Shelby/Mustang story in the Jan. issue of 'Auto Restorer' magazine, and it claims 'Donald Healey refused to sell Shelby rolling chassis for his new sports car (me: the Cobra) because he feared it would best his Austin-Healeys in competition--which, of course, it did.' 

I've always heard/read the DMH was OK with the idea, but BMC was not. Anyone know for sure? I believe DMH and CS were friends. 

Bob 

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00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Yep .... the article mentioned Shelby =
first wanted Chevy engines, but Chevy indeed didn't want the competition fo=
r the 'Vette.<br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria=
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font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">The way I heard the story was that Shelby wanted to put=
 a Chevy motor into the Healey.&nbsp; Chevy didn't want to sell the motors =
(perhaps because they didn't want competition for the Corvette) and BMC did=
n't want the Healey chassis to go to Shelby.&nbsp; I think DMH would have w=
elcomed more power in the Healey. OTOH, if DMH stopped using the BMC 6 moto=
r, it would have cost BMC some money, so I can see why BMC wouldn't want Sh=
elby to get the Healey chassis.&nbsp; Can't say I know "for sure", but that=
's the story I heard.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Bob Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
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t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; bo=
rder-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">So, I'm reading (yet another=
) Shelby/Mustang story in the Jan. issue of 'Auto Restorer' magazine, and i=
t claims 'Donald Healey refused to sell Shelby rolling chassis for his new =
sports car (me: the Cobra) because he feared it would best his Austin-Heale=
ys in competition--which, of course, it did.'<br> <br> I've always heard/re=
ad the DMH was OK with the idea, but BMC was not.&nbsp; Anyone know for sur=
e?&nbsp; I believe DMH and CS were friends.<br> <br> Bob<br> <br> -- <br> *=
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From: HealeyRick <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 20:03:22 -0500

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Don't know if it was done with a Healey, but Car and Driver rather
(in)famously did it with an E-Type.
Here's the history of that: *http://tinyurl.com/n5baofe
<http://tinyurl.com/n5baofe>.*   My Dad bought a '67 Pontiac LeMans with
the Sprint version of the OHC motor.  It had a Rochester Quadrajet, hotter
cam, split dual exhaust manifold and 10.5:1 compression.  It was pretty
peppy, but refused to run on anything but Sunoco 260.

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Jonas Payne <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Pontiac has a sweet ohc 6 at the time, wonder if anybody has ever put one
> of those in?
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Don&#39;t know if it was done with a Healey, but Car and D=
river rather (in)famously did it with an E-Type.<div>Here&#39;s the history=
 of that:=C2=A0<b style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,Aria=
l,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px"><a href=3D"http://tiny=
url.com/n5baofe">http://tinyurl.com/n5baofe</a>.</b>=C2=A0 =C2=A0My Dad bou=
ght a &#39;67 Pontiac LeMans with the Sprint version of the OHC motor.=C2=
=A0 It had a Rochester Quadrajet, hotter cam, split dual exhaust manifold a=
nd 10.5:1 compression.=C2=A0 It was pretty peppy, but refused to run on any=
thing but Sunoco 260. =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<b style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-=
family:Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349=
px">=C2=A0=C2=A0</b></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Jonas Payne <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">jpaynepbr@c=
ox.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"=
auto"><div>Pontiac has a sweet ohc 6 at the time, wonder if anybody has eve=
r put one of those in?<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 24, =
2015, at 4:25 PM, HealeyRick &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">The way I heard the story was that Shel=
by wanted to put a Chevy motor into the Healey.=C2=A0 Chevy didn&#39;t want=
 to sell the motors (perhaps because they didn&#39;t want competition for t=
he Corvette) and BMC didn&#39;t want the Healey chassis to go to Shelby.=C2=
=A0 I think DMH would have welcomed more power in the Healey. OTOH, if DMH =
stopped using the BMC 6 motor, it would have cost BMC some money, so I can =
see why BMC wouldn&#39;t want Shelby to get the Healey chassis.=C2=A0 Can&#=
39;t say I know &quot;for sure&quot;, but that&#39;s the story I heard.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 24,=
 2015 at 10:12 AM, Bob Spidell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspi=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">So, I&#39;m reading (yet another) She=
lby/Mustang story in the Jan. issue of &#39;Auto Restorer&#39; magazine, an=
d it claims &#39;Donald Healey refused to sell Shelby rolling chassis for h=
is new sports car (me: the Cobra) because he feared it would best his Austi=
n-Healeys in competition--which, of course, it did.&#39;<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve always heard/read the DMH was OK with the idea, but BMC was not.=
=C2=A0 Anyone know for sure?=C2=A0 I believe DMH and CS were friends.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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