Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear axle gasket question

From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 04:58:51 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi Steve,=20

I don't think you need to make that particular gasket more pliable. It's sa=
ndwiched between two machined, flat surfaces that would probably contain 99=
% of oil without a gasket (plus, you have an O-ring for good measure).=20

Next to oil and tires, the question of when and what to use to seal gaskets=
 or surfaces probably generates the most discussions and opinions. I'm curi=
ous about it myself--having been a chemistry major at one time--and have, w=
ell, experimented a lot. For paper gaskets, I swear by Permatex Aviation Fo=
rm-A-Gasket (the gooey brown stuff). It sets up to a non-sticky glaze-like =
surface that makes gaskets easy to remove, as well as adding the 1% of nece=
ssary sealing. I've used it on water pump gaskets and the old gaskets peel =
off completely intact; leaving chunks of the old gasket on a surface is a s=
urefire way to create a leak, and scraping can damage a smooth surface.=20

Almost always, using just the paper gasket on a smooth surface is sufficien=
t, but I usually smear a really thin coat of the Form-A-Gasket because, wel=
l, just because (if nothing else it makes later removal easier). If a gaske=
t isn't available I use a silicone like 'Right Stuff;' newer cars use this =
instead of oil pan and differential cover gaskets. Hylomar is often recomme=
nded, but I think it's as much tradition as anything and there's at least t=
wo types, and I'm never sure which is the one you're supposed to use (IIRC,=
 Roger Moment did a write-up for it once).=20

Bob=20

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From: "Steve Gerow" <[email-masked]>=20
To: "healeys" <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:42:11 PM=20
Subject: [Healeys] Rear axle gasket question=20

Am replacing the paper gasket and o-ring on one of my axles. Did I read her=
e the gasket should be soaked in water in order to make it more pliable?=20

I=E2=80=99ve always installed these with hylomar and never had any leakage =
problems from the gasket or o-ring, but the gaskets do tend to tear.=20

Would appreciate any informed comments.=20

--=20

Steve Gerow=20

Altadena, CA, USA=20

BN6=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div>Hi Steve,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I don't think you need to m=
ake that particular gasket more pliable.&nbsp; It's sandwiched between two =
machined, flat surfaces that would probably contain 99% of oil without a ga=
sket (plus, you have an O-ring for good measure).<br></div><div><br></div><=
div>Next to oil and tires, the question of when and what to use to seal gas=
kets or surfaces probably generates the most discussions and opinions.&nbsp=
; I'm curious about it myself--having been a chemistry major at one time--a=
nd have, well, experimented a lot.&nbsp; For paper gaskets, I swear by Perm=
atex Aviation Form-A-Gasket (the gooey brown stuff).&nbsp; It sets up to a =
non-sticky glaze-like surface that makes gaskets easy to remove, as well as=
 adding the 1% of necessary sealing.&nbsp; I've used it on water pump gaske=
ts and the old gaskets peel off completely intact; leaving chunks of the ol=
d gasket on a surface is a surefire way to create a leak, and scraping can =
damage a smooth surface.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Almost always, using =
just the paper gasket on a smooth surface is sufficient, but I usually smea=
r a really thin coat of the Form-A-Gasket because, well, just because (if n=
othing else it makes later removal easier).&nbsp; If a gasket isn't availab=
le I use a silicone like 'Right Stuff;' newer cars use this instead of oil =
pan and differential cover gaskets.&nbsp; Hylomar is often recommended, but=
 I think it's as much tradition as anything and there's at least two types,=
 and I'm never sure which is the one you're supposed to use (IIRC, Roger Mo=
ment did a write-up for it once).<br></div><div><br></div><div>Bob<br></div=
><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=
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nt-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Steve G=
erow" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"healeys" &lt;healeys@au=
tox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:42:11 PM<br><=
b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Rear axle gasket question<br><div><br></div><style=
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the paper gasket and o-ring on one of my axles. Did I read here the gasket =
should be soaked in water in order to make it more pliable?</p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve always installed t=
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p class=3D"MsoNormal">Would appreciate any informed comments.</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">--</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Steve Gerow</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Al=
tadena, CA, USA</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">BN6</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Che=
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:25:25 -0800

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Steve:

The paper gaskets =E2=80=93 which are basically dust seals =E2=80=93 =
should go on dry.  It=E2=80=99s the o-ring that does all the sealing.  =
Too thick a coating on the paper has been known to prevent the axle =
flange from giving the right amount of =E2=80=98squeeze=E2=80=99 on the =
o-ring, thereby actually producing a leak =E2=80=93 especially if the =
o-ring is slightly undersize.

If you are worried about tearing the paper as you try to get it over the =
studs, you can soak the gasket in water for awhile to help with that.  =
In fact, the early cars didn=E2=80=99t use the paper at all.

Flame away gang!

Earl Kagna
Victoria, B.C.
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb

From: Steve Gerow=20
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:42 PM
To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: [Healeys] Rear axle gasket question

Am replacing the paper gasket and o-ring on one of my axles. Did I read =
here the gasket should be soaked in water in order to make it more =
pliable?

=20

I=E2=80=99ve always installed these with hylomar and never had any =
leakage problems from the gasket or o-ring, but the gaskets do tend to =
tear.

=20

Would appreciate any informed comments.

=20

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=20

Steve Gerow

Altadena, CA, USA

BN6

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<DIV>Steve:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The paper gaskets =E2=80=93 which are basically dust seals =
=E2=80=93 should go on=20
dry.&nbsp; It=E2=80=99s the o-ring that does all the sealing.&nbsp; Too =
thick a coating=20
on the paper has been known to prevent the axle flange from giving the =
right=20
amount of =E2=80=98squeeze=E2=80=99 on the o-ring, thereby actually =
producing a leak =E2=80=93=20
especially if the o-ring is slightly undersize.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>If you are worried about tearing the paper as you try to get it =
over the=20
studs, you can soak the gasket in water for awhile to help with =
that.&nbsp; In=20
fact, the early cars didn=E2=80=99t use the paper at all.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Flame away gang!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #141100; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Earl=20
Kagna<BR>Victoria, B.C.<BR>BJ8, BT7 tri-carb</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Steve Gerow</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:42 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>Am replacing the paper gasket and o-ring on one of =
my axles.=20
Did I read here the gasket should be soaked in water in order to make it =
more=20
pliable?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99ve always installed these with hylomar =
and never had any=20
leakage problems from the gasket or o-ring, but the gaskets do tend to=20
tear.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Would appreciate any informed =
comments.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>--<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Steve Gerow<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Altadena, CA, USA<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>BN6<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Check out my galleries:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P=20
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My personal opinion on all of this is to NEVER install these particular
paper gaskets with hylomar or any other type of gasket sealant.  When the
axle is properly bolted up with the proper paper gasket and o-ring, these
will not leak at all, ever.

If it starts leaking, that means your lug nuts are loose, and you need to
tighten them up.  If you seal these gaskets up too well, you will not get
any notice of loose lug nuts... until your splines and axle bolts are worn
out.

Oil leaking from the hub is a cheap early warning indicator of bigger
problems.

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> Am replacing the paper gasket and o-ring on one of my axles. Did I read
> here the gasket should be soaked in water in order to make it more pliabl=
e?
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99ve always installed these with hylomar and never had any leakag=
e
> problems from the gasket or o-ring, but the gaskets do tend to tear.
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">My personal opinion on all of this is to NEVER install the=
se particular paper gaskets with hylomar or any other type of gasket sealan=
t.=C2=A0 When the axle is properly bolted up with the proper paper gasket a=
nd o-ring, these will not leak at all, ever. =C2=A0<div><br></div><div>If i=
t starts leaking, that means your lug nuts are loose, and you need to tight=
en them up.=C2=A0 If you seal these gaskets up too well, you will not get a=
ny notice of loose lug nuts... until your splines and axle bolts are worn o=
ut. =C2=A0<br><br>Oil leaking from the hub is a cheap early warning indicat=
or of bigger problems.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Steve Gerow <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-=
US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Am replacing=
 the paper gasket and o-ring on one of my axles. Did I read here the gasket=
 should be soaked in water in order to make it more pliable?<u></u><u></u><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=
=E2=80=99ve always installed these with hylomar and never had any leakage p=
roblems from the gasket or o-ring, but the gaskets do tend to tear.<u></u><=
u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">Would appreciate any informed comments.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"M=
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p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ste=
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Soaking in water is not a good idea in my opinion. Reason?: corrosion in 
the crevices around the flange, bearing etc. The water wil not dry out 
for a long time.
I prefer using thin oil, WD40, 3 in 1, sewing machine oil etc. It will 
slightly swell the paper, makes it pliant, prevents sticking and 
prevents corrosion.
Kees Oudesluijs
NL

Steve Gerow schreef op 25-1-2015 om 5:42:
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> Am replacing the paper gasket and o-ring on one of my axles. Did I 
> read here the gasket should be soaked in water in order to make it 
> more pliable?
>
> I’ve always installed these with hylomar and never had any leakage 
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      my opinion. Reason?: corrosion in the crevices around the flange,
      bearing etc. The water wil not dry out for a long time.<br>
      I prefer using thin oil, WD40, 3 in 1, sewing machine oil etc. It
      will slightly swell the paper, makes it pliant, prevents sticking
      and prevents corrosion.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      NL<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Steve Gerow schreef op 25-1-2015 om 5:42:<br>
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          one of my axles. Did I read here the gasket should be soaked
          in water in order to make it more pliable?</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I’ve always installed these with hylomar
          and never had any leakage problems from the gasket or o-ring,
          but the gaskets do tend to tear.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Would appreciate any informed comments.</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">--</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Steve Gerow</p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Altadena, CA, USA</p>
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I suppose Kees has a point but with the amount of oil spray, etc. that
trails back from the engine and transmission I doubt that corrosion would
be a great possibility.

I lightly soak the diff gasket in water simply because it is easy to tear
it while installing.  I agree with Alan that given proper mating surfaces
sealant compound should not be necessary but nevertheless I generally put a
light smear of gray RTV on the gasket prior to installation.  Alternatively
I have run without a gasket using sealant only and that works as well.  In
fact some racers do that claiming that it creates a bit of toe-in though I
doubt it really matters.

Best--Michael Oritt

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ck from the engine and transmission I doubt that corrosion would be a great=
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    <div>Soaking in water is not a good idea in
      my opinion. Reason?: corrosion in the crevices around the flange,
      bearing etc. The water wil not dry out for a long time.<br>
      I prefer using thin oil, WD40, 3 in 1, sewing machine oil etc. It
      will slightly swell the paper, makes it pliant, prevents sticking
      and prevents corrosion.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      NL<br>
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          one of my axles. Did I read here the gasket should be soaked
          in water in order to make it more pliable?</p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve always installed these with hyl=
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          and never had any leakage problems from the gasket or o-ring,
          but the gaskets do tend to tear.</p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Would appreciate any informed comments.</p>
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From: Oudesluys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:26:41 +0100

Well, there won't be much oil from a leaking engine reaching the outer 
ring of the bearings and the rear axle housing. If there is dampness 
there, corrosion makes dismantling the rear bearing in a future occasion 
unnecessary difficult. This area does not dry out easily.
Kees Oudesluijs
NL

Michael Oritt schreef op 25-1-2015 om 14:04:
> trails back from the engine and transmission I doubt that corrosion 
> would be a great possibility.
>

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From: Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 00:33:02 +1100

Dampness??
At the rear axle oil seal?
Only if you never drive it Kees. 
Ask anyone who has ever given a Healey a hard time, and I can almost guarantee that the rear diff to axle  seal isn't the standard rubber one. 
The gasket isn't the issue. The standard seal fails under the heat. 
I use a CR seal. I'll look up the number tomorrow. 
There are brake temps, axle oil temps - more than enough temperature to dry out a paper gasket. 
Seriously. 
Chris

Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Jan 2015, at 7:26 pm, Oudesluys <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Well, there won't be much oil from a leaking engine reaching the outer ring of the bearings and the rear axle housing. If there is dampness there, corrosion makes dismantling the rear bearing in a future occasion unnecessary difficult. This area does not dry out easily.
> Kees Oudesluijs
> NL
> 
>> I suppose Kees has a point but with the amount of oil spray, etc. that trails back from the engine and transmission I doubt that corrosion would be a great possibility.
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 Chris--

Perhaps things are different in Holland what with the dikes and all,
 Luckily I am above sea level and have never experienced any corrosion
either to my crevices or my seals.

I'm gonna go soak some gaskets--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Ask anyone who has ever given a Healey a hard time, and I can almost
> guarantee that the rear diff to axle  seal isn't the standard rubber one.
> ring of the bearings and the rear axle housing. If there is dampness there,
> corrosion makes dismantling the rear bearing in a future occasion
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">=C2=
=A0Chris--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Perhaps things are=
 different in Holland what with the dikes and all, =C2=A0Luckily I am above=
 sea level and have never experienced any corrosion either to my crevices o=
r my seals.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I&#39;m gonna go =
soak some gaskets--Michael Oritt</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Chris Dimmock <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">Dampness??<br>
At the rear axle oil seal?<br>
Only if you never drive it Kees.<br>
Ask anyone who has ever given a Healey a hard time, and I can almost guaran=
tee that the rear diff to axle=C2=A0 seal isn&#39;t the standard rubber one=
.<br>
The gasket isn&#39;t the issue. The standard seal fails under the heat.<br>
I use a CR seal. I&#39;ll look up the number tomorrow.<br>
There are brake temps, axle oil temps - more than enough temperature to dry=
 out a paper gasket.<br>
Seriously.<br>
Chris<br>
<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
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&gt; Well, there won&#39;t be much oil from a leaking engine reaching the o=
uter ring of the bearings and the rear axle housing. If there is dampness t=
here, corrosion makes dismantling the rear bearing in a future occasion unn=
ecessary difficult. This area does not dry out easily.<br>
&gt; Kees Oudesluijs<br>
&gt; NL<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Michael Oritt schreef op 25-1-2015 om 14:04:<br>
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I agree that the gasket is not intended to be the oil seal. That is the job=
 of the O-ring. I believe the primary job of the gasket is to act as a shim=
. The workshop manual indicates that the bearing spacer should stand proud =
of the hub face including the gasket by a few thousands of an inch. I do no=
t recall the exact tolerances. This will assure pressure on the bearing spa=
cer which keeps the bearing in place & prevents the outer race from spinnin=
g. All of the paper gaskets that I have seen recently are made from materia=
l that is too thick. I have had to made gaskets for paper that is of a suit=
able thickness. Also, if the holes in the gasket do not fit over the studs =
without tearing I have nibbled the holes out slightly with a small hand pap=
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Gary Hodson =20
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o act as a shim. The workshop manual indicates that the bearing spacer&nbsp=
;should stand&nbsp;proud of the hub face including the gasket&nbsp;by a few=
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re pressure on the bearing spacer which keeps the bearing in place &amp; pr=
events&nbsp;the outer race from spinning.&nbsp;All of the paper gaskets tha=
t I have seen recently are made from material that is too thick. I have had=
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he holes in the gasket do not fit over the studs without tearing I have nib=
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If you soaked the too big gaskets in, say, WD40, wouldn=E2=80=99t they =
compress down to a proper size as you tightened up?

Just a thought..............

Simon

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To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
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I agree that the gasket is not intended to be the oil seal. That is the =
job of the O-ring. I believe the primary job of the gasket is to act as =
a shim. The workshop manual indicates that the bearing spacer should =
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>If you soaked the too big gaskets in, say, WD40, wouldn=E2=80=99t =
they compress down to a proper size as you tightened =
up?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Just a thought..............<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>[email-masked]<br><b>Sent:</b> 26 January 2015 =
15:05<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Rear axle gasket =
question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
 agree that the gasket is not intended to be the oil seal. That is the =
job of the O-ring. I believe the primary job of the gasket is to act as =
a shim. The workshop manual indicates that the bearing =
spacer&nbsp;should stand&nbsp;proud of the hub face including the =
gasket&nbsp;by a few thousands of an inch. I do not recall the exact =
tolerances. This will assure pressure on the bearing spacer which keeps =
the bearing in place &amp; prevents&nbsp;the outer race from =
spinning.&nbsp;All of the paper gaskets that I have seen recently are =
made from material that is too thick. I have had to&nbsp;made gaskets =
for paper that is of a suitable thickness. Also, if the holes in the =
gasket do not fit over the studs without tearing I have nibbled the =
holes out slightly with a small hand paper =
punch.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>G=
ary Hodson&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-=
----Original Message-----<br>From: Steve Gerow <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><o:p></o=
:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"AOLMsgPart_1.2_1536ee20-82f6-4c76-a580-b53d1edcebe8"><div><div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A=
m replacing the paper gasket and o-ring on one of my axles. Did I read =
here the gasket should be soaked in water in order to make it more =
pliable?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
=E2=80=99ve always installed these with hylomar and never had any =
leakage problems from the gasket or o-ring, but the gaskets do tend to =
tear.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>W=
ould appreciate any informed =
comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp; &nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
teve =
Gerow<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></h=
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