Subject: Re: [Fot] Race tires

From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 08:23:29 -0400

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I believe Speedsters are the same compound as the , banned by most groups,
R7 pseudo slicks. I like the Hoosier TDRs. They last longer and are very
predictable. I have a set of the Proxies but, just me, I didn't know when
they were going to lose grip. I need some skid pad time with them, and a
camber change according to Hoosier to feel comfortable. I do use them for
rain tires and off track parade laps.
A good friend of mine loves his Proxies on his MGB, but I consistently out
handle him in the corners.

mike h

On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 7:56=E2=80=AFAM Tony Garmey via Fot <[email-masked].=
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> Are the Proxy RRR the go to tire ?
> This past weekend at Lime Rock , I ran new Hoosier speedsters . After 5
> heat cycles, they were absolutely rooted . Yeah, I ran them hard =E2=80=
=A6 but
> still :-/
>
> Cheers
> T
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I believe Speedsters are the same compound as the , banned=
 by most groups, R7 pseudo slicks. I like the Hoosier TDRs. They last longe=
r and are very predictable. I have a set of the Proxies but, just me, I did=
n&#39;t know when they were going to lose grip. I need some skid pad time w=
ith them, and a camber change according to Hoosier to feel comfortable. I d=
o use them for rain tires and off track parade laps.=C2=A0<div>A good frien=
d of mine loves his Proxies on his MGB, but I consistently=C2=A0out handle =
him in the corners.</div><div><br></div><div>mike h</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 7:56=E2=80=AFAM Tony Garmey via Fot &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Are the Proxy RRR the go to tire ?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">This past weekend at Lime Rock , I ran new Hoosier speedst=
ers . After 5 heat cycles, they were absolutely rooted . Yeah, I ran them h=
ard =E2=80=A6 but still :-/</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">T</div>
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From: Mark Cook via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 08:43:13 -0400

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Tony,

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I do not have as much experience as the rest of the group on vintage =
tires.  In March at the VDCA VIR Wild Hare, I ran a new set of Hoosier =
HOTDRs (24x7-15) for 1 qualifying, 4 races (I flat spotted one set in =
the first qualifying when I locked up).  My best session was the last =
race on Sunday with this set.  In April, I ran the same set for 4 more =
sessions at VIR again, running the tread down below spec.  I understand =
the HOTDRs are actually the same compound as R7s.   I have not run RRRs, =
but understand they are a little harder compound, and might last longer.

=20

Sorry I missed everyone at Lime Rock =E2=80=93 wish I could have been =
there, but was fun watching on youtube.

=20

For what it is worth.

=20

Mark Cook=20

=20

From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Tony Garmey =
via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2025 7:42 AM
To: Triumph FOT
Subject: [Fot] Race tires

=20

This past weekend at Lime Rock , I ran new Hoosier speedsters . After 5 =
heat cycles, they were absolutely rooted . Yeah, I ran them hard =
=E2=80=A6 but still :-/

=20

Cheers

T

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><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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>I do not have as much experience as the rest of the group on vintage =
tires.=C2=A0 In March at the VDCA VIR Wild Hare, I ran a new set of =
Hoosier HOTDRs (24x7-15) for 1 qualifying, 4 races (I flat spotted one =
set in the first qualifying when I locked up).=C2=A0 My best session was =
the last race on Sunday with this set.=C2=A0 In April, I ran the same =
set for 4 more sessions at VIR again, running the tread down below =
spec.=C2=A0 I understand the HOTDRs are actually the same compound as =
R7s. =C2=A0=C2=A0I have not run RRRs, but understand they are a little =
harder compound, and might last longer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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>Sorry I missed everyone at Lime Rock =E2=80=93 wish I could have been =
there, but was fun watching on youtube.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Garmey =
via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 3, 2025 7:42 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Triumph FOT<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Race =
tires<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Are the =
Proxy RRR the go to tire ?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>This past weekend at Lime Rock , I ran new Hoosier =
speedsters . After 5 heat cycles, they were absolutely rooted . Yeah, I =
ran them hard =E2=80=A6 but still :-/<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>T<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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From: Chris Marx via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 15:24:50 +0200

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Hi,

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I run A7 on the IMSA TR8. They seem to last well. I run down the tire =
first, before the compound shows any change.

Next year I will try the Speedster on my TR4 for the first time. Curious =
how they will perform.

=20

Cheers

Chris

=20

=20

From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Mark Cook via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2025 2:43 PM
To: 'Tony Garmey' <[email-masked]>
Cc: Friends of Triumph Group Email <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Race tires

=20

Tony,

=20

=20

=20

For what it is worth.

=20

Mark Cook=20

=20

=20

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Cheers

T

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Hi,<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>I run A7 on =
the IMSA TR8. They seem to last well. I run down the tire first, before =
the compound shows any change.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Next year I =
will try the Speedster on my TR4 for the first time. Curious how they =
will perform.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Cheers<o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Chris<o:p></o:p=
></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Fot =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Cook via =
Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 3, 2025 2:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
'Tony Garmey' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Friends of Triumph Group Email =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Race =
tires<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>T=
ony,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I=
 do not have as much experience as the rest of the group on vintage =
tires.&nbsp; In March at the VDCA VIR Wild Hare, I ran a new set of =
Hoosier HOTDRs (24x7-15) for 1 qualifying, 4 races (I flat spotted one =
set in the first qualifying when I locked up).&nbsp; My best session was =
the last race on Sunday with this set.&nbsp; In April, I ran the same =
set for 4 more sessions at VIR again, running the tread down below =
spec.&nbsp; I understand the HOTDRs are actually the same compound as =
R7s. &nbsp;&nbsp;I have not run RRRs, but understand they are a little =
harder compound, and might last longer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>S=
orry I missed everyone at Lime Rock =E2=80=93 wish I could have been =
there, but was fun watching on youtube.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>F=
or what it is worth.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>M=
ark Cook <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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[<a =
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net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Garmey via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Wednesday, September 3, 2025 7:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> Triumph =
FOT<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Race =
tires<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Are the =
Proxy RRR the go to tire ?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>This past weekend at Lime Rock , I ran new Hoosier =
speedsters . After 5 heat cycles, they were absolutely rooted . Yeah, I =
ran them hard =E2=80=A6 but still :-/<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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From: Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>
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I currently run the Speedsters and used to run the R888Rs.  I find the =
performance new to be pretty similar.  However, the R888R tends to get =
loose and greasy when hot, 2/3 of the way through a race in the summer, =
where the Speedster holds up better for the duration.  Speedsters wear =
faster,  and cost more.  Toyos wear like iron, but after 10-12 heat =
cycles they are not as good.  I used to have the Toyos shaved, no need =
to do that with the Speedsters.
Just my 2 cents - running 205/60-13s on the GT6.=20
Can=E2=80=99t find good info on the R7 compound.  Someone could call =
Hoosier and ask. =20
TDRs are a bias ply tire and don=E2=80=99t like negative camber =
(according to the Hoosier engineers) where the radial Speedster works =
well with it.  I run almost 3 degrees negative front and rear.  Lots of =
effort to switch between the two tires and compare.  Looking at cars =
with TDRs on the track, they tend to =E2=80=9Cdrift=E2=80=9D more.  Fun =
to watch, and seem to be quick.

On Sep 3, 2025, at 8:23=E2=80=AFAM, Mike Harmuth via Fot =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

I believe Speedsters are the same compound as the , banned by most =
groups, R7 pseudo slicks. I like the Hoosier TDRs. They last longer and =
are very predictable. I have a set of the Proxies but, just me, I didn't =
know when they were going to lose grip. I need some skid pad time with =
them, and a camber change according to Hoosier to feel comfortable. I do =
use them for rain tires and off track parade laps.=20
A good friend of mine loves his Proxies on his MGB, but I consistently =
out handle him in the corners.

mike h

On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 7:56=E2=80=AFAM Tony Garmey via Fot =
> This past weekend at Lime Rock , I ran new Hoosier speedsters . After =
5 heat cycles, they were absolutely rooted . Yeah, I ran them hard =E2=80=A6=
 but still :-/
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">I currently =
run the Speedsters and used to run the R888Rs. &nbsp;I find the =
performance new to be pretty similar. &nbsp;However, the R888R tends to =
get loose and greasy when hot, 2/3 of the way through a race in the =
summer, where the Speedster holds up better for the duration. =
&nbsp;Speedsters wear faster, &nbsp;and cost more. &nbsp;Toyos wear like =
iron, but after 10-12 heat cycles they are not as good. &nbsp;I used to =
have the Toyos shaved, no need to do that with the Speedsters.<div>Just =
my 2 cents - running 205/60-13s on the GT6.&nbsp;</div><div>Can=E2=80=99t =
find good info on the R7 compound. &nbsp;Someone could call Hoosier and =
ask. &nbsp;</div><div>TDRs are a bias ply tire and don=E2=80=99t like =
negative camber (according to the Hoosier engineers) where the radial =
Speedster works well with it. &nbsp;I run almost 3 degrees negative =
front and rear. &nbsp;Lots of effort to switch between the two tires and =
compare. &nbsp;Looking at cars with TDRs on the track, they tend to =
=E2=80=9Cdrift=E2=80=9D more. &nbsp;Fun to watch, and seem to be =
quick.<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><div>On Sep 3, =
2025, at 8:23=E2=80=AFAM, Mike Harmuth via Fot =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I believe =
Speedsters are the same compound as the , banned by most groups, R7 =
pseudo slicks. I like the Hoosier TDRs. They last longer and are very =
predictable. I have a set of the Proxies but, just me, I didn't know =
when they were going to lose grip. I need some skid pad time with them, =
and a camber change according to Hoosier to feel comfortable. I do use =
them for rain tires and off track parade laps.&nbsp;<div>A good friend =
of mine loves his Proxies on his MGB, but I consistently&nbsp;out handle =
him in the corners.</div><div><br></div><div>mike h</div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 7:56=E2=80=AFAM Tony Garmey =
via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
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<div dir=3D"auto">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Are the Proxy RRR the go to tire ?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">This past weekend at Lime Rock , I ran new Hoosier =
speedsters . After 5 heat cycles, they were absolutely rooted . Yeah, I =
ran them hard =E2=80=A6 but still :-/</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers</div>
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