Subject: Re: [Fot] isky oil recommendations

From: J Wagner via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 21:23:41 -0800

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=E2=80=94Justin=20

2.023 Updated Motor Oil Warning!!
Important message regarding critical "break-in" and "running" protection for=
 all high performance flat-tappet hydraulic and solid lifter camshafts.
Not all motor oils are created equal! Unfortunately, when installing a high-=
performance camshaft, most oils will not afford your new cam sufficient prot=
ection during and after the initial 'break-in' period (the mating-in of the v=
irgin metal surfaces between cam-lobes and lifters). This is because governm=
ent regulators have mandated (as of January '04) a phased reduction and the e=
ventual elimination of the critical anti-wear additive package (zinc/phospho=
rus) from all "SM" rated (street legal) motor oils to protect catalytic conv=
erters.
Currently, ISKY recommends the use of only the following motor oils for maxi=
mum cam lobe and lifter protection during and after the 'break-in' period be=
cause they are among the orly conventional (mineral base non-synthetic) oils=
 available with generous levels of the critical anti-wear zinc/phosphorous a=
dditive package (at Least 1550-1600 pm for racing and up to, or exceeding 20=
00 ppm for break-in). Listed alphabetically, they are;
=EF=BB=BF=EF=BB=BFCen-Pe-Co (Central Petroleum Co.) 30 wt. Break-in Oil and S=
uper Racing Oil (100% Paraffinic Base)
=EF=BB=BFBriven BR-30 Breaki Oil and their GP-1 SemI-Swathetick Racing O!!
=EF=BB=BF=EF=BB=BFMr. Race Oil SAE 30 Break-in Oil and their Drag Race / Ova=
l Track Synthetic Blends*
*(semi-synthetic and synthetic blends average about 80% conventional, 20% sy=
nthetic)
We feel that the above listed motor oils are the finest available today, act=
ually exceeding the protection levels of the former racing standard (yet no l=
onger available) original Kendall GT-1. NOTE: WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE USE O=
F THESE 'BREAK-IN' SPECIFIC OILS for higher levels of anti-wear protection u=
pon initial start-up and for the first 30 minutes of operation! If you do no=
t use one of the above oils, the next best approach is to supplement other c=
ommon mineral based oils with a zinc/phosphorous additive, of which only the=
 following two are approved by ISKY: Either CAM SHIELD by Mr. Race Oil or ZD=
DPLUS. HOWEVER;
RATHER THAN SUPPLEMENTING, YOU ARE HIGHLY ENCOURAGED TO EMPLOY THE
*MORE SHEAR STABLE, ENHANCED POLYMERS IN ONE OF THE ABOVE LISTED BREAK-IN' O=
ILS INSTEAD (ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR ENGINES WITH HIGHER LIFT, MORE AGRESSI=
VE CAMSHAFTS, HIGHER ROCKER RATIOS, AND HEAVIER VALVE SPRING LOADING)!
* * Special Note Regarding Synthetic Oils *
ISKY does not recommend the use of fully synthetic oils with any flat-tappet=
 camshaft, especially during break-in'. If you must use fully synthetic oil a=
fter break-in, there are several racing synthetics with excellent wincinhosp=
horous additive nookages that we are comfortable recommending such as Amocil=
 (Rod) Raging. Oil, Cen-Pe-Co, Mr. Race Oil and Schaeffer Oil. Avoid those w=
ith very low viscosity index numbers (Ow-15, 5w-20 etc.) because of their lo=
wer film strength. However, realistically, for the sake of all flat tappet h=
ydraulic or mechanical lifter camshafts, you'11 want to consider that no hig=
hly refined synthetic oil (with considerably higher surface tension) will we=
t down cam lobe surfaces as well as, a couventional mineral based oil to bot=
h lubricate and carry away heat! These two qualities are of fundamental impo=
rtance for any good motor oil and particularly so for any High-Performance f=
lat tappet camshaft installation!
Lastly, even when you employ the correct oil, remember that camshafts receiv=
e no direct-pressurized lubrication to their cam lobes and therefore depend o=
n the foggy mist or "splash" off the connecting rods for survival. Therefore=
, when getting ready to start the motor up, remember to immediately rev to 2=
000/2500 RPM and keep it there for the first 15-20 minutes of operation. Als=
o; be sure the ignition is timed properly and fuel is in the carburetor bowl=
 to avoid excessive cranking on the starter and pre-disposing your cam's ins=
tallation to a high riok of premature wear. Reducing valve spring loading (r=
emoving the inner springs is one method) and lower rocker arm ratios are enc=
ouraged during the camshaft's critical break-in process.
RACING CAMS
ED ISKENDERIAN RACING. CAMS
16020 S. BROADWAY BOX 30 =E2=80=A2 GARDENA, CALIFORNIA 90247-9990;
(310) 217-9232 Fax (310) 515-5730 www.iskycams.com

> On Dec 19, 2023, at 9:07 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
> =EF=BB=BFGot a reground cam in the mail over the weekend. At the risk of s=
parking another oil debate, I=E2=80=99ve attached their oil warning and reco=
mmendations.=20
>=20
> Interesting in what oils are not listed, specifically VR1 20-50 racing oil=
 which I=E2=80=99ve been using with great results for over 14 years in multi=
ple cars/engines.=20
>=20
> Any thoughts on this?
>=20
>=20
> Greg
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nt-size: 20px;">2.023 Updated Motor Oil Warning!!</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">Important message regarding critical "break-in" and "running" pro=
tection for all high performance flat-tappet hydraulic and solid lifter cams=
hafts.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">Not all motor oils are created equal! Unfortunately, when install=
ing a high-performance camshaft, most oils will not afford your new cam suff=
icient protection during and after the initial 'break-in' period (the mating=
-in of the virgin metal surfaces between cam-lobes and lifters). This is bec=
ause government regulators have mandated (as of January '04) a phased reduct=
ion and the eventual elimination of the critical anti-wear additive package (=
zinc/phosphorus) from all "SM" rated (street legal) motor oils to protect ca=
talytic converters.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">Currently, ISKY recommends the use of only the following motor oi=
ls for maximum cam lobe and lifter protection during and after the 'break-in=
' period because they are among the orly conventional (mineral base non-synt=
hetic) oils available with generous levels of the critical anti-wear zinc/ph=
osphorous additive package (at Least 1550-1600 pm for racing and up to, or e=
xceeding 2000 ppm for break-in). Listed alphabetically, they are;</span></p>=

<ul style=3D"list-style-type: circle">
<li style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; fon=
t-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-ad=
just: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-varian=
t-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">=EF=BB=BF=EF=BB=BFCen-Pe-Co (Central Petroleum Co.) 30 wt. Break-=
in Oil and Super Racing Oil (100% Paraffinic Base)</span></li>
<li style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; fon=
t-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-ad=
just: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-varian=
t-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">=EF=BB=BFBriven BR-30 Breaki Oil and their GP-1 SemI-Swathetick R=
acing O!!</span></li>
<li style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; fon=
t-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-ad=
just: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-varian=
t-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">=EF=BB=BF=EF=BB=BFMr. Race Oil SAE 30 Break-in Oil and their Drag=
 Race / Oval Track Synthetic Blends*</span></li>
</ul>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">*(semi-synthetic and synthetic blends average about 80% conventio=
nal, 20% synthetic)</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">We feel that the above listed motor oils are the finest available=
 today, actually exceeding the protection levels of the former racing standa=
rd (yet no longer available) original Kendall GT-1. NOTE: WE STRONGLY RECOMM=
END THE USE OF THESE 'BREAK-IN' SPECIFIC OILS for higher levels of anti-wear=
 protection upon initial start-up and for the first 30 minutes of operation!=
 If you do not use one of the above oils, the next best approach is to suppl=
ement other common mineral based oils with a zinc/phosphorous additive, of w=
hich only the following two are approved by ISKY: Either CAM SHIELD by Mr. R=
ace Oil or ZDDPLUS. HOWEVER;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">RATHER THAN SUPPLEMENTING, YOU ARE HIGHLY ENCOURAGED TO EMPLOY TH=
E</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">*MORE SHEAR STABLE, ENHANCED POLYMERS IN ONE OF THE ABOVE LISTED B=
REAK-IN' OILS INSTEAD (ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR ENGINES WITH HIGHER LIFT, MO=
RE AGRESSIVE CAMSHAFTS, HIGHER ROCKER RATIOS, AND HEAVIER VALVE SPRING LOADI=
NG)!</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">* * Special Note Regarding Synthetic Oils *</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">ISKY does not recommend the use of fully synthetic oils with any f=
lat-tappet camshaft, especially during break-in'. If you must use fully synt=
hetic oil after break-in, there are several racing synthetics with excellent=
 wincinhosphorous additive nookages that we are comfortable recommending suc=
h as Amocil (Rod) Raging. Oil, Cen-Pe-Co, Mr. Race Oil and Schaeffer Oil. Av=
oid those with very low viscosity index numbers (Ow-15, 5w-20 etc.) because o=
f their lower film strength. However, realistically, for the sake of all fla=
t tappet hydraulic or mechanical lifter camshafts, you'11 want to consider t=
hat no highly refined synthetic oil (with considerably higher surface tensio=
n) will wet down cam lobe surfaces as well as, a couventional mineral based o=
il to both lubricate and carry away heat! These two qualities are of fundame=
ntal importance for any good motor oil and particularly so for any High-Perf=
ormance flat tappet camshaft installation!</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">Lastly, even when you employ the correct oil, remember that camsh=
afts receive no direct-pressurized lubrication to their cam lobes and theref=
ore depend on the foggy mist or "splash" off the connecting rods for surviva=
l. Therefore, when getting ready to start the motor up, remember to immediat=
ely rev to 2000/2500 RPM and keep it there for the first 15-20 minutes of op=
eration. Also; be sure the ignition is timed properly and fuel is in the car=
buretor bowl to avoid excessive cranking on the starter and pre-disposing yo=
ur cam's installation to a high riok of premature wear. Reducing valve sprin=
g loading (removing the inner springs is one method) and lower rocker arm ra=
tios are encouraged during the camshaft's critical break-in process.</span><=
/p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">RACING CAMS</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">ED ISKENDERIAN RACING. CAMS</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">16020 S. BROADWAY BOX 30 =E2=80=A2 GARDENA, CALIFORNIA 90247-9990=
;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font=
-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant=
-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: n=
ormal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-op=
tical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze: 20px;">(310) 217-9232 Fax (310) 515-5730 www.iskycams.com</span></p><p s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-str=
etch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; f=
ont-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; f=
ont-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-ea=
st-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: norm=
al; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><br></p><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 19, 2023, at 9:07 PM, Greg Blake via Fot &lt;f=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span>Got a reground cam in the mail over the=
 weekend. At the risk of sparking another oil debate, I=E2=80=99ve attached t=
heir oil warning and recommendations. </span><br><span></span><br><span>Inte=
resting in what oils are not listed, specifically VR1 20-50 racing oil which=
 I=E2=80=99ve been using with great results for over 14 years in multiple ca=
rs/engines. </span><br><span></span><br><span>Any thoughts on this?<div>&lt;=
image0.jpeg&gt;</div><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Greg</span><br>=
<span>Sent from my iPhone<span>_____________________________________________=
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From: Bob Kramer Gmail via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 07:38:44 -0600

Greg,
That page is loaded with good advice. I too have had great success with VR1, but on my last new racing cam, the irreplaceable Larry Young 310,  I used Driven Break In oil, first. I use Driven cam paste and VR1 for everything else. 
Bob

You only get one chance at life, make it a TRIUMPH.

> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:15 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Got a reground cam in the mail over the weekend. At the risk of sparking another oil debate, I’ve attached their oil warning and recommendations.
> 
> Interesting in what oils are not listed, specifically VR1 20-50 racing oil which I’ve been using with great results for over 14 years in multiple cars/engines.
> 
> Any thoughts on this?
> 
> 
> Greg
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From: Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:36:33 +0100

Funny enough Isky's sheet does not mention Lucas Oil. Their classic 20/50 has 2300ppm ZDDP the racing oils 3'000 up to 5'000. I
 only use Lucas oils now, engine and box run significantly cooler. Had to remove the oil cooler on the hillclimb TR3 as I could not reach 90°C anymore!
Merry Christmas dear Foters!
Buon Natale Amici!
Alex Camoletti

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From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 11:02:18 -0500

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I used VR-1 oil as well and during the last rebuild, the bearings could
have been reused (didn't). The cam (journal end, not the lobes) did have
wear, but I think it came from a soft, "new chilled" blank, not the oil.
Here's a nice chart from Speedway motors with zinc by brand, even ones they
don't sell. VR-1 is good, just not the highest concentration on the list.

https://static.speedwaymotors.com/images/SMI-Oil-Chart.pdf

mike h

On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:15=E2=80=AFAM Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]=
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wrote:

> Got a reground cam in the mail over the weekend. At the risk of sparking
> another oil debate, I=E2=80=99ve attached their oil warning and recommend=
ations.
>
> Interesting in what oils are not listed, specifically VR1 20-50 racing oi=
l
> which I=E2=80=99ve been using with great results for over 14 years in mul=
tiple
> cars/engines.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I used VR-1 oil as well and during the last rebuild, the b=
earings could have been reused (didn&#39;t). The cam (journal end, not the =
lobes) did have wear, but I think it came from=C2=A0a soft, &quot;new chill=
ed&quot;=C2=A0blank, not the oil. Here&#39;s a nice chart from Speedway mot=
ors with zinc by brand, even ones they don&#39;t sell. VR-1 is good, just n=
ot the highest concentration on the list.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"htt=
ps://static.speedwaymotors.com/images/SMI-Oil-Chart.pdf">https://static.spe=
edwaymotors.com/images/SMI-Oil-Chart.pdf</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><=
img src=3D"cid:ii_lqdyowh90" alt=3D"cams side by side.jpg" width=3D"562" he=
ight=3D"422"><br></div><div><br></div><div>mike h</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 20, 2023=
 at 12:15=E2=80=AFAM Greg Blake via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex">Got a reground cam in the mail over the weekend. A=
t the risk of sparking another oil debate, I=E2=80=99ve attached their oil =
warning and recommendations. <br>
<br>
Interesting in what oils are not listed, specifically VR1 20-50 racing oil =
which I=E2=80=99ve been using with great results for over 14 years in multi=
ple cars/engines. <br>
<br>
Any thoughts on this?<br>
<br>
Greg<br>
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From: Ken Knight via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 08:54:24 -0800

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Advice below is very good, Joe Gibbs Driven is excellent oil.  I use the br=
eak in oil for an hour or two on the stand, or a couple of track sessions, =
the switch to the Driven 30 wt.  These new oils (well not new but modern) a=
re awesome and flow at low temps and protect at high.   No need for the 20-=
40/20-50=E2=80=99s of Christmas past.  For both coolant temps and oil temps=
 on cold track days I just tape the grill.

Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to All, lets all toast Kas with a glass =
of Cheer this Holiday, he is missed.

Ken

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Bob Kramer Gmail via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 6:17 AM
To: Greg Blake
Cc: Fot
Subject: Re: [Fot] isky oil recommendations

Greg,
That page is loaded with good advice. I too have had great success with VR1=
, but on my last new racing cam, the irreplaceable Larry Young 310,  I used=
 Driven Break In oil, first. I use Driven cam paste and VR1 for everything =
else.=20
Bob

> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:15=E2=80=AFPM, Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked].=
net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFGot a reground cam in the mail over the weekend. At the risk of =
sparking another oil debate, I=E2=80=99ve attached their oil warning and re=
commendations.
> Interesting in what oils are not listed, specifically VR1 20-50 racing oi=
l which I=E2=80=99ve been using with great results for over 14 years in mul=
tiple cars/engines.
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56@g=
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v.com

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eak in oil for an hour or two on the stand, or a couple of track sessions, =
the switch to the Driven 30 wt.=C2=A0 These new oils (well not new but mode=
rn) are awesome and flow at low temps and protect at high. =C2=A0=C2=A0No n=
eed for the 20-40/20-50=E2=80=99s of Christmas past.=C2=A0 For both coolant=
 temps and oil temps on cold track days I just tape the grill.</p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Happy Holidays and M=
erry Christmas to All, lets all toast Kas with a glass of Cheer this Holida=
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via Fot</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, December 20, 2023 6:17 AM<br><b>To: =
</b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Greg Blake</a><br><b>Cc: </b>=
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isky oil recommendations</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal>Greg,</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>That page is loaded wit=
h good advice. I too have had great success with VR1, but on my last new ra=
cing cam, the irreplaceable Larry Young 310,=C2=A0 I used Driven Break In o=
il, first. I use Driven cam paste and VR1 for everything else. </p><p class=
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class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:15=E2=80=AFPM, Greg Blake via=
 Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; </p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; =EF=BB=BFGot a reground cam in the mail over the wee=
kend. At the risk of sparking another oil debate, I=E2=80=99ve attached the=
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R1 20-50 racing oil which I=E2=80=99ve been using with great results for ov=
er 14 years in multiple cars/engines.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; </p><p c=
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Interesting to see the various brands, thanks MIke !

Here is the LUcas chart I just found. The Drag Oil5/20  is at 6795ppm =
ZDDP !

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De : Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] De la part de Mike Harmuth =
via Fot
Envoy=C3=A9 : mercredi 20 d=C3=A9cembre 2023 17:02
=C3=80 : Greg Blake; FoTTriumph
Objet : Re: [Fot] isky oil recommendations

=20

I used VR-1 oil as well and during the last rebuild, the bearings could =
have been reused (didn't). The cam (journal end, not the lobes) did have =
wear, but I think it came from a soft, "new chilled" blank, not the oil. =
Here's a nice chart from Speedway motors with zinc by brand, even ones =
they don't sell. VR-1 is good, just not the highest concentration on the =
list.

=20

=20

cams side by side.jpg

=20

mike h

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On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:15=E2=80=AFAM Greg Blake via Fot =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

Got a reground cam in the mail over the weekend. At the risk of sparking =
another oil debate, I=E2=80=99ve attached their oil warning and =
recommendations.=20

Interesting in what oils are not listed, specifically VR1 20-50 racing =
oil which I=E2=80=99ve been using with great results for over 14 years =
in multiple cars/engines.=20

Any thoughts on this?

Greg

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style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>Interesting to =
see the various brands, thanks MIke&nbsp;!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>Here is the LUcas =
chart I just found. The Drag Oil5/20 =C2=A0is at 6795ppm =
ZDDP&nbsp;!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De&nbsp;:</s=
pan></b><span lang=3DFR =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fot =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>De la part de</b> Mike Harmuth =
via Fot<br><b>Envoy=C3=A9&nbsp;:</b> mercredi 20 d=C3=A9cembre 2023 =
17:02<br><b>=C3=80&nbsp;:</b> Greg Blake; =
FoTTriumph<br><b>Objet&nbsp;:</b> Re: [Fot] isky oil =
recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I used =
VR-1 oil as well and during the last rebuild, the bearings could have =
been reused (didn't). The cam (journal end, not the lobes) did have =
wear, but I think it came from&nbsp;a soft, &quot;new =
chilled&quot;&nbsp;blank, not the oil. Here's a nice chart from Speedway =
motors with zinc by brand, even ones they don't sell. VR-1 is good, just =
not the highest concentration on the list.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://static.speedwaymotors.com/images/SMI-Oil-Chart.pdf">https=
://static.speedwaymotors.com/images/SMI-Oil-Chart.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><img border=3D0 width=3D562 height=3D422 =
id=3D"_x0000_i1025" src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" =
alt=3D"cams side by side.jpg"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>mike h<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:15=E2=80=AFAM Greg Blake via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Got a reground cam in the mail over the =
weekend. At the risk of sparking another oil debate, I=E2=80=99ve =
attached their oil warning and recommendations. <br><br>Interesting in =
what oils are not listed, specifically VR1 20-50 racing oil which =
I=E2=80=99ve been using with great results for over 14 years in multiple =
cars/engines. <br><br>Any thoughts on this?<br><br>Greg<br>Sent from my =
iPhone_______________________________________________<br><a =
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6795 ppm?
Crikey!!!  That's a lot of zddp! There must be something with the JR
Dragster engines that needs a ton of it!

My understanding is that when it comes to ZDDP;  more than enough is a bad
thing!

In addition, a true break in oil has ZDDP that breaks down faster than in a
regular race oil.  All ZDDP is not created equal.

For what it's worth, I've had great luck with the Driven BR and GP1 series
of break in oils, along with the PennGrade break in oils in Triumph racing
and street engines.

Jason Sukey
JS Performance Motoring, LLC
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> Here is the LUcas chart I just found. The Drag Oil5/20  is at 6795ppm
> ZDDP !
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">6795 ppm?</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Crikey!!!=
=C2=A0 That&#39;s a lot of zddp! There must be something with the JR Dragst=
er engines that needs a ton of it!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">My understanding is that when it comes to ZDDP;=C2=A0 more than en=
ough is a bad thing!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>In addition, a tr=
ue break in oil has ZDDP that breaks down faster than in a regular=C2=A0rac=
e oil.=C2=A0 All ZDDP is not created equal.</div><div><br></div><div>For wh=
at it&#39;s worth, I&#39;ve had great luck with=C2=A0the Driven BR and GP1 =
series of break in oils, along with the PennGrade break in oils in Triumph =
racing and street engines.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v>Jason Sukey</div><div><span></span><span></span>JS Performance Motoring, =
LLC<br></div><div>440.984.7720</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:jason@jsperforma=
ncemotoring.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><=
/div><div><a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/JSPerformanceMotoring/" targe=
t=3D"_blank">https://www.facebook.com/JSPerformanceMotoring/</a><br></div><=
/div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 20, 20=
23 at 3:17=E2=80=AFPM Alexandre Camoletti via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg-91423439472989986"><di=
v lang=3D"FR-CH"><div class=3D"m_-91423439472989986WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Garamond,&quot;serif&quot;;color:=
rgb(68,84,106)">Interesting to see the various brands, thanks MIke=C2=A0!<u=
></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Ga=
ramond,&quot;serif&quot;;color:rgb(68,84,106)">Here is the LUcas chart I ju=
st found. The Drag Oil5/20 =C2=A0is at 6795ppm ZDDP=C2=A0!<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Garamond,&quot;se=
rif&quot;;color:rgb(68,84,106)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Garamond,&quot;serif&quot;;color:rgb(=
68,84,106)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span =
lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">De=C2=A0:</span></b><span lang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fami=
ly:Tahoma,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Fot [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounce=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>De l=
a part de</b> Mike Harmuth via Fot<br><b>Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0:</b> mercredi 20=
 d=C3=A9cembre 2023 17:02<br><b>=C3=80=C2=A0:</b> Greg Blake; FoTTriumph<br=
><b>Objet=C2=A0:</b> Re: [Fot] isky oil recommendations<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">I used VR-1 oil as well and during the last rebuild, the bearings coul=
d have been reused (didn&#39;t). The cam (journal end, not the lobes) did h=
ave wear, but I think it came from=C2=A0a soft, &quot;new chilled&quot;=C2=
=A0blank, not the oil. Here&#39;s a nice chart from Speedway motors with zi=
nc by brand, even ones they don&#39;t sell. VR-1 is good, just not the high=
est concentration on the list.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https=
://static.speedwaymotors.com/images/SMI-Oil-Chart.pdf" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://static.speedwaymotors.com/images/SMI-Oil-Chart.pdf</a><u></u><u></u><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"562" height=3D"422" id=3D"m_=
-91423439472989986_x0000_i1025" src=3D"cid:ii_18c88e8f0454ce8e91" alt=3D"ca=
ms side by side.jpg"><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">mike h<u></u><u></u=
></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:15=E2=80=AFAM Greg Blake v=
ia Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"borde=
r-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(2=
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class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Got a reground cam in the =
mail over the weekend. At the risk of sparking another oil debate, I=E2=80=
=99ve attached their oil warning and recommendations. <br><br>Interesting i=
n what oils are not listed, specifically VR1 20-50 racing oil which I=E2=80=
=99ve been using with great results for over 14 years in multiple cars/engi=
nes. <br><br>Any thoughts on this?<br><br>Greg<br>Sent from my iPhone______=
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