Subject: [Fot] Fuel system

From: DENNIS WALJE via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 17:11:44 -0600

Friends

I am ready to install fuel system from cell to engine on my 68 GT6 MK1. I would value any leadership:

What is best- hard line from pump to engine to engine or braided stainless?

Any thoughts on best electric fuel pump?

Thanks!

Dennis Walje

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From: Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 00:58:50 +0000

The TR 250k uses dash 6 flex/ braid hose from tank to carbs- 
Bendix blue dot pump with Holley pressure Reg . 

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From: Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 21:03:50 -0500

I’m curious about the answer. My GT6 is currently in pieces, bodywork being done. The braided line ran from the fuel pump adjacent to the fuel cell, along the roll cage and out through the firewall. It’s worked great for ten years, but I’ve often wondered if i should have a steel line, and if it should be run outside the passenger compartment.  I like the flex of the braided line (AN fittings) and maybe it’s better protected in the passenger compartment then underneath the car?
The pump says purolator #42S, one of those little cube jobs, too noisy for a street car but fine in a race car.  My spare is identical, but is a Facet 12SV from Pegasus, so i think the Purolator is really a re-stickered Facet. Flows plenty of fuel through a large filter, enough pressure to feed triple webers through a Holley regulator to knock it down to 3 psi.

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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 02:56:49 +0000 (UTC)

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 I've been using the Facet cylindrical red top pumps in my TR3 for 20+ year=
s.=C2=A0 I also use a Holley fuel pressure regulator.=C2=A0 When I re-plump=
ed my car, after it sat for 10 years, I used the Summit Racing copper-nicke=
l tubing from the cell (in the boot) up to the engine bay.=C2=A0 Added a Su=
mmit fuel filter with replaceable screen.=C2=A0 Braided hose (-6) from the =
filter to the regulator, then to the carb bowls.=C2=A0 Joe(B)
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 07:39:52 PM EST, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <f=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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I am ready to install fuel system from cell to engine on my 68 GT6 MK1. I w=
ould value any leadership:

Thanks!

Dennis Walje

Sent from my iPhone

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ne on my 68 GT6 MK1. I would value any leadership:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">What is best- hard line from pump to engine to=
 engine or braided stainless?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Any thoughts on best electric fuel pump?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
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From: Philip Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 07:23:55 -0500

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I like the flexibility of braided line. I=E2=
=80=99ve seen a lot of folks run their fuel lines along the outside of the r=
oll cage side bars. A convenient place to put it and keeps it away from the h=
eat of the floor, but a no - no in a crash. You don=E2=80=99t want the fuel l=
ine between the cage and anything else. Put it on the inside of the roll cag=
e side tubing where it will be safe. Leave some slack or a bend at each end t=
o allow for some =E2=80=9Cgive=E2=80=9D if you get T-boned.<div>Another vote=
 for a Facet pump and Holley regulator. &nbsp;</div><div>I run the smallest p=
ossible diameter hose in the engine bay. That minimizes the dwell time of th=
e fuel in the hot engine bay. &nbsp;Especially important in our non cross fl=
ow heads that put the fuel on top of the exhaust manifold=E2=80=A6.</div><di=
v>Phil Gott&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 2, 2023, at 2:44 AM, Joe Boruch v=
ia Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquo=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I've been using the Facet cyl=
indrical red top pumps in my TR3 for 20+ years.&nbsp; I also use a Holley fu=
el pressure regulator.&nbsp; When I re-plumped my car, after it sat for 10 y=
ears, I used the Summit Racing copper-nickel tubing from the cell (in the bo=
ot) up to the engine bay.&nbsp; Added a Summit fuel filter with replaceable s=
creen.&nbsp; Braided hose (-6) from the filter to the regulator, then to the=
 carb bowls.&nbsp; Joe(B)</div><div><br></div>
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Friends<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I am ready to install fuel system from cell to engine=
 on my 68 GT6 MK1. I would value any leadership:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">What is best- hard line from pump to engine to eng=
ine or braided stainless?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Any thoughts on best electric fuel pump?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Dennis Walje<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent=
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From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 14:14:59 +0000 (UTC)

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 When the mechanical pump failed on my Morgan 4/4 (1600 Ford engine) all of=
 my fellow Morgan owners recommended the Facet electric fuel pump.=C2=A0 I =
had already had my fuel tank completely cleaned and sealed.=C2=A0 One year =
later, the Facet pump failed.=C2=A0 I couldn't find any dirt or gunk in the=
 fuel lines or filter.=C2=A0 Perhaps this was a random failure, but this ti=
me I used a different fuel pump.
That's my experience.
Jack

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autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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  I've been using the Facet cylindrical red top pumps in my TR3 for 20+ yea=
rs.=C2=A0 I also use a Holley fuel pressure regulator.=C2=A0 When I re-plum=
ped my car, after it sat for 10 years, I used the Summit Racing copper-nick=
el tubing from the cell (in the boot) up to the engine bay.=C2=A0 Added a S=
ummit fuel filter with replaceable screen.=C2=A0 Braided hose (-6) from the=
 filter to the regulator, then to the carb bowls.=C2=A0 Joe(B)
    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 07:39:52 PM EST, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <f=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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Thanks!

Dennis Walje

Sent from my iPhone

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">When the mechanical pump fai=
led on my Morgan 4/4 (1600 Ford engine) all of my fellow Morgan owners reco=
mmended the Facet electric fuel pump.&nbsp; I had already had my fuel tank =
completely cleaned and sealed.&nbsp; One year later, the Facet pump failed.=
&nbsp; I couldn't find any dirt or gunk in the fuel lines or filter.&nbsp; =
Perhaps this was a random failure, but this time I used a different fuel pu=
mp.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">That's my experience.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
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s in my TR3 for 20+ years.&nbsp; I also use a Holley fuel pressure regulato=
r.&nbsp; When I re-plumped my car, after it sat for 10 years, I used the Su=
mmit Racing copper-nickel tubing from the cell (in the boot) up to the engi=
ne bay.&nbsp; Added a Summit fuel filter with replaceable screen.&nbsp; Bra=
ided hose (-6) from the filter to the regulator, then to the carb bowls.&nb=
sp; Joe(B)</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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. I would value any leadership:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">What is best- hard line from pump t=
o engine to engine or braided stainless?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
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"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks!<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
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On my GT6 I run a hard line (3/8" nicopp) outside along the frame, not
through the cockpit.  AN-6 braided hose where it connects at either end.

I use a Facet cylindrical pump 480532 and Holley regulator.

I've also added a small return line off of the front carb (furthest part of
the system), back to the fuel cell with a .040" orifice.  This keep the
fuel pressure more consistent,  and feeds the carbs with cooler fuel when
we are cooking in pit lane mid race for a black flag all.  This works great
on street cars too, especially with E10 fuel that likes to boil.

I use a "fuel pump controller" from Revolution Electronics that shuts off
the fuel pump if it doesn't sense a tach signal in the ignition system.
Yes, it adds more complexity to the system, but it makes me feel safer vs a
simple toggle switch controlling the pump.  There's also a VW fuel pump
relay that does the same thing, but some have a rev limit built in (I
learned that one the hard way....).

Jason Sukey

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On my GT6 I run a hard line (3/8&quot; nicopp) outside alo=
ng the frame, not through the cockpit.=C2=A0 AN-6 braided hose where it con=
nects at either end.<div><br></div><div>I use a=C2=A0Facet cylindrical pump=
 480532 and Holley regulator.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve also added =
a small return line off of the front carb (furthest part of the system), ba=
ck to the fuel cell with a .040&quot; orifice.=C2=A0 This keep the fuel pre=
ssure more consistent,=C2=A0 and feeds the carbs with cooler fuel when we a=
re cooking in pit lane mid race for a black flag all.=C2=A0 This works grea=
t on street cars too, especially with E10 fuel that likes to boil.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>I use a &quot;fuel pump controller&quot; from Revolution E=
lectronics that shuts off the fuel pump if it doesn&#39;t sense a tach sign=
al in the ignition system.=C2=A0 Yes, it adds more complexity to the system=
, but it makes me feel safer vs a simple toggle switch controlling the pump=
.=C2=A0 There&#39;s also a VW fuel pump relay that does the same thing, but=
 some have a rev limit built in (I learned that one the hard way....).</div=
><div><br></div><div>Jason Sukey=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 7:21=E2=80=AFPM DENNIS WALJE via Fot=
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8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Friends<br>
<br>
I am ready to install fuel system from cell to engine on my 68 GT6 MK1. I w=
ould value any leadership:<br>
<br>
What is best- hard line from pump to engine to engine or braided stainless?=
<br>
<br>
Any thoughts on best electric fuel pump?<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
Dennis Walje<br>
<br>
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From: Joe Boruch via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 14:51:10 +0000 (UTC)

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 My TR3 had braided fuel line running thru the inside of the car for many y=
ears, but when the old braided lines started springing leaks I decided to c=
hange to a copper-nickel line under the car, protected by frame rails.=C2=
=A0 SCCA allows braided line inside the car, but Champcar requires that bra=
id be enclosed in a metal enclosure or conduit if inside the car.=C2=A0 I s=
uspect that they had seen problems with leaks or fires from braid in the ca=
r. Most safety rules are written in blood.
Conversely, SCCA does not allow the copper-nickel line inside the car.=C2=
=A0 Must be steel line or steel braided hose.=C2=A0 I don't know the vintag=
e rules to comment on those.=C2=A0 Joe(B)
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 02:34:17 AM EST, Scott Janzen via Fot <fo=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 I=E2=80=99m curious about the answer. My GT6 is currently in pieces, bodyw=
ork being done. The braided line ran from the fuel pump adjacent to the fue=
l cell, along the roll cage and out through the firewall. It=E2=80=99s work=
ed great for ten years, but I=E2=80=99ve often wondered if i should have a =
steel line, and if it should be run outside the passenger compartment.=C2=
=A0 I like the flex of the braided line (AN fittings) and maybe it=E2=80=99=
s better protected in the passenger compartment then underneath the car?
The pump says purolator #42S, one of those little cube jobs, too noisy for =
a street car but fine in a race car.=C2=A0 My spare is identical, but is a =
Facet 12SV from Pegasus, so i think the Purolator is really a re-stickered =
Facet. Flows plenty of fuel through a large filter, enough pressure to feed=
 triple webers through a Holley regulator to knock it down to 3 psi.

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">My TR3 had braided fuel line=
 running thru the inside of the car for many years, but when the old braide=
d lines started springing leaks I decided to change to a copper-nickel line=
 under the car, protected by frame rails.&nbsp; SCCA allows braided line in=
side the car, but Champcar requires that braid be enclosed in a metal enclo=
sure or conduit if inside the car.&nbsp; I suspect that they had seen probl=
ems with leaks or fires from braid in the car. Most safety rules are writte=
n in blood.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Conversely, SCCA does not allow the copper-n=
ickel line inside the car.&nbsp; Must be steel line or steel braided hose.&=
nbsp; I don't know the vintage rules to comment on those.&nbsp; Joe(B)</div=
><div><br></div>
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                    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 02:34:17 AM EST, Scott Ja=
nzen via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99m curious about the answer.=
 My GT6 is currently in pieces, bodywork being done. The braided line ran f=
rom the fuel pump adjacent to the fuel cell, along the roll cage and out th=
rough the firewall. It=E2=80=99s worked great for ten years, but I=E2=80=99=
ve often wondered if i should have a steel line, and if it should be run ou=
tside the passenger compartment.&nbsp; I like the flex of the braided line =
(AN fittings) and maybe it=E2=80=99s better protected in the passenger comp=
artment then underneath the car?<br clear=3D"none">The pump says purolator =
#42S, one of those little cube jobs, too noisy for a street car but fine in=
 a race car.&nbsp; My spare is identical, but is a Facet 12SV from Pegasus,=
 so i think the Purolator is really a re-stickered Facet. Flows plenty of f=
uel through a large filter, enough pressure to feed triple webers through a=
 Holley regulator to knock it down to 3 psi.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none"><div class=3D"ydpc655cf07yqt1161553436" id=3D"ydpc655cf07yqtfd87508"=
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:40:07 +0000 (UTC)

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 I do not recommend a steel line anywhere on a race car except between carb=
s - a steel line anywhere in the system could get kinked and split open in =
a wreck of any kind (things bend and sometimes pop back some)=C2=A0 - I alw=
ays run a -6 braided line front to back down the tunnel, be sure to leave s=
ome extra along the way and mount in a few places, as mentioned elsewhere d=
o not route it between bits that can trap it / never had any failures, no h=
eat issues and never any comments from tech
Ralph
    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:57:20 AM CST, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fo=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
  When the mechanical pump failed on my Morgan 4/4 (1600 Ford engine) all o=
f my fellow Morgan owners recommended the Facet electric fuel pump.=C2=A0 I=
 had already had my fuel tank completely cleaned and sealed.=C2=A0 One year=
 later, the Facet pump failed.=C2=A0 I couldn't find any dirt or gunk in th=
e fuel lines or filter.=C2=A0 Perhaps this was a random failure, but this t=
ime I used a different fuel pump.
That's my experience.
Jack

Thanks!

Dennis Walje

Sent from my iPhone

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;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I do not recommend a steel l=
ine anywhere on a race car except between carbs - a steel line anywhere in =
the system could get kinked and split open in a wreck of any kind (things b=
end and sometimes pop back some)&nbsp; - I always run a -6 braided line fro=
nt to back down the tunnel, be sure to leave some extra along the way and m=
ount in a few places, as mentioned elsewhere do not route it between bits t=
hat can trap it / never had any failures, no heat issues and never any comm=
ents from tech</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Ralph</div><div><br></div>
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                    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:57:20 AM CST, Jack Whe=
eler via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpf4643871yiv6396978710"><div><div style=
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;" class=3D"ydpf4643871yiv6396978710ydp27a2d97yahoo-style-wrap"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">When the mechanical pump failed on my Morgan 4/4 (=
1600 Ford engine) all of my fellow Morgan owners recommended the Facet elec=
tric fuel pump.&nbsp; I had already had my fuel tank completely cleaned and=
 sealed.&nbsp; One year later, the Facet pump failed.&nbsp; I couldn't find=
 any dirt or gunk in the fuel lines or filter.&nbsp; Perhaps this was a ran=
dom failure, but this time I used a different fuel pump.</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">That's my experience.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 02:45:34 AM EST, Joe Boru=
ch via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">I've been using the Facet cylindrical red top pump=
s in my TR3 for 20+ years.&nbsp; I also use a Holley fuel pressure regulato=
r.&nbsp; When I re-plumped my car, after it sat for 10 years, I used the Su=
mmit Racing copper-nickel tubing from the cell (in the boot) up to the engi=
ne bay.&nbsp; Added a Summit fuel filter with replaceable screen.&nbsp; Bra=
ided hose (-6) from the filter to the regulator, then to the carb bowls.&nb=
sp; Joe(B)</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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From: Alfetta95 via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:25:45 -0500

Mines a TR3a

Facet fuel pump and filter and braided line from fuel cell through the chassis almost as original to the SU carbs

Todd

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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:25:45 -0500

Mines a TR3a

Todd

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Adel clamps are your friend here. I'm not worried about being overweight,
so I put one about every 8-10". Same for all the lines, cables, and wires.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 12:51=E2=80=AFPM ralph hansen via Fot <[email-masked]=
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wrote:

> I do not recommend a steel line anywhere on a race car except between
> carbs - a steel line anywhere in the system could get kinked and split op=
en
> in a wreck of any kind (things bend and sometimes pop back some)  - I
> always run a -6 braided line front to back down the tunnel, be sure to
> leave some extra along the way and mount in a few places, as mentioned
> elsewhere do not route it between bits that can trap it / never had any
> failures, no heat issues and never any comments from tech
>
> Ralph
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:57:20 AM CST, Jack Wheeler via Fot <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
f
> my fellow Morgan owners recommended the Facet electric fuel pump.  I had
> already had my fuel tank completely cleaned and sealed.  One year later,
> the Facet pump failed.  I couldn't find any dirt or gunk in the fuel line=
s
> or filter.  Perhaps this was a random failure, but this time I used a
> different fuel pump.
>
> That's my experience.
>
> Jack
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 02:45:34 AM EST, Joe Boruch via Fot <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> I've been using the Facet cylindrical red top pumps in my TR3 for 20+
> years.  I also use a Holley fuel pressure regulator.  When I re-plumped m=
y
> car, after it sat for 10 years, I used the Summit Racing copper-nickel
> tubing from the cell (in the boot) up to the engine bay.  Added a Summit
> fuel filter with replaceable screen.  Braided hose (-6) from the filter t=
o
> the regulator, then to the carb bowls.  Joe(B)
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div>Adel clamps are your friend here. I&#3=
9;m not worried about being overweight, so I put one about every 8-10&quot;=
. Same for all the lines, cables, and wires.</div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 12=
:51=E2=80=AFPM ralph hansen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetic=
a,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I do not recommend a steel line anywhere on a race=
 car except between carbs - a steel line anywhere in the system could get k=
inked and split open in a wreck of any kind (things bend and sometimes pop =
back some)=C2=A0 - I always run a -6 braided line front to back down the tu=
nnel, be sure to leave some extra along the way and mount in a few places, =
as mentioned elsewhere do not route it between bits that can trap it / neve=
r had any failures, no heat issues and never any comments from tech</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ralph</div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"m_809884589414713876ydpf4643871yahoo_quoted_826780=
1783">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:57:20 AM CST, Jack Whe=
eler via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fo=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_809884589414713876ydpf4643871yiv639697871=
0"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif=
;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">When the mechanical pump failed on my Morgan 4/4 (=
1600 Ford engine) all of my fellow Morgan owners recommended the Facet elec=
tric fuel pump.=C2=A0 I had already had my fuel tank completely cleaned and=
 sealed.=C2=A0 One year later, the Facet pump failed.=C2=A0 I couldn&#39;t =
find any dirt or gunk in the fuel lines or filter.=C2=A0 Perhaps this was a=
 random failure, but this time I used a different fuel pump.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">That&#39;s my experience=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"m_809884589414713876ydpf4643871yiv6396978710ydpe2b=
9d306yahoo_quoted_8218712167">
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Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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8464"><div>
                    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 02:45:34 AM EST, Joe Boru=
ch via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_809884589414713876ydpf4643871yiv639697871=
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lvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve been using the Facet cylindrical red top =
pumps in my TR3 for 20+ years.=C2=A0 I also use a Holley fuel pressure regu=
lator.=C2=A0 When I re-plumped my car, after it sat for 10 years, I used th=
e Summit Racing copper-nickel tubing from the cell (in the boot) up to the =
engine bay.=C2=A0 Added a Summit fuel filter with replaceable screen.=C2=A0=
 Braided hose (-6) from the filter to the regulator, then to the carb bowls=
.=C2=A0 Joe(B)</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"m_809884589414713876ydpf4643871yiv6396978710ydpe2b=
9d306yiv2892783247ydp6c350c62yahoo_quoted_7747956147">
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                    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 07:39:52 PM EST, DENNIS =
WALJE via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">f=
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                </div><div><div id=3D"m_809884589414713876ydpf4643871yiv639=
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>I am ready to install fuel system from cell to engine on my 68 GT6 MK1. I =
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I have a quartet of squirrels that do a bucket brigade from the fuel tank t=
o the carbs when I=E2=80=99m running. Sometimes they don=E2=80=99t get quit=
e enough up to the motor so I can be seen randomly slowing down and cursing=
 at them. That=E2=80=99s when I get passed.=C2=A0
=F0=9F=98=81
Gods luck with your fuel lines!

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On Thursday, March 2, 2023, 2:44 PM, Alfetta95 via Fot <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:

Mines a TR3a

Facet fuel pump and filter and braided line from fuel cell through the chas=
sis almost as original to the SU carbs

Todd

> On Mar 1, 2023, at 7:37 PM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot <[email-masked]> wro=
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Try hamsters, they are much more focused.

Bob Kramer

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> I have a quartet of squirrels that do a bucket brigade from the fuel tank
> to the carbs when I=E2=80=99m running. Sometimes they don=E2=80=99t get q=
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> the motor so I can be seen randomly slowing down and cursing at them.
> That=E2=80=99s when I get passed.
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> Mines a TR3a
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> Facet fuel pump and filter and braided line from fuel cell through the
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Try hamsters, they are much more focused.<div><br clear=3D=
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I have a quartet of squirrels that do a bucket brigade from the fuel tank t=
o the carbs when I=E2=80=99m running. Sometimes they don=E2=80=99t get quit=
e enough up to the motor so I can be seen randomly slowing down and cursing=
 at them. That=E2=80=99s when I get passed.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>=F0=9F=
=98=81</div><div><br></div><div>Gods luck with your fuel lines!<br><div><di=
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ne"><br clear=3D"none">Facet fuel pump and filter and braided line from fue=
l cell through the chassis almost as original to the SU carbs<br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none">Todd<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; On M=
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 engine to engine or braided stainless?<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D=
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I didn't know those clamps had a proper name. Thanks Google Search Secure
Search function.

Bob Kramer

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 2:35=E2=80=AFPM robert bownes via Fot <[email-masked]=
m.net>
wrote:

> so I put one about every 8-10". Same for all the lines, cables, and wires=
.
>
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 12:51=E2=80=AFPM ralph hansen via Fot <[email-masked]=
eam.net>
>> carbs - a steel line anywhere in the system could get kinked and split o=
pen
>> When the mechanical pump failed on my Morgan 4/4 (1600 Ford engine) all
>> of my fellow Morgan owners recommended the Facet electric fuel pump.  I =
had
>> the Facet pump failed.  I couldn't find any dirt or gunk in the fuel lin=
es
>> years.  I also use a Holley fuel pressure regulator.  When I re-plumped =
my
>> fuel filter with replaceable screen.  Braided hose (-6) from the filter =
to
>> I am ready to install fuel system from cell to engine on my 68 GT6 MK1. =
I
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I didn&#39;t know those clamps=C2=A0had a proper name. Tha=
nks Google Search Secure Search function.<div><br><div><div>Bob Kramer<br><=
br></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 2:35=E2=80=AFPM robert bownes v=
ia Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div>Adel clamps are your friend here. I&#39;m not =
worried about being overweight, so I put one about every 8-10&quot;. Same f=
or all the lines, cables, and wires.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 12:51=E2=
=80=AFPM ralph hansen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helve=
tica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I do not recommend a steel line anywhere on a race=
 car except between carbs - a steel line anywhere in the system could get k=
inked and split open in a wreck of any kind (things bend and sometimes pop =
back some)=C2=A0 - I always run a -6 braided line front to back down the tu=
nnel, be sure to leave some extra along the way and mount in a few places, =
as mentioned elsewhere do not route it between bits that can trap it / neve=
r had any failures, no heat issues and never any comments from tech</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ralph</div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"m_-3472949945143791155m_809884589414713876ydpf4643=
871yahoo_quoted_8267801783">
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Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                <div>
                    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:57:20 AM CST, Jack Whe=
eler via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fo=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
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                <div><div id=3D"m_-3472949945143791155m_809884589414713876y=
dpf4643871yiv6396978710"><div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neu=
e&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">When the mechanical pump failed on my Morgan 4/4 (=
1600 Ford engine) all of my fellow Morgan owners recommended the Facet elec=
tric fuel pump.=C2=A0 I had already had my fuel tank completely cleaned and=
 sealed.=C2=A0 One year later, the Facet pump failed.=C2=A0 I couldn&#39;t =
find any dirt or gunk in the fuel lines or filter.=C2=A0 Perhaps this was a=
 random failure, but this time I used a different fuel pump.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">That&#39;s my experience=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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43871yiv6396978710yqt88464"><div>
                    On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 02:45:34 AM EST, Joe Boru=
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autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                <div><div id=3D"m_-3472949945143791155m_809884589414713876y=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve been using the Facet cylindrical red top =
pumps in my TR3 for 20+ years.=C2=A0 I also use a Holley fuel pressure regu=
lator.=C2=A0 When I re-plumped my car, after it sat for 10 years, I used th=
e Summit Racing copper-nickel tubing from the cell (in the boot) up to the =
engine bay.=C2=A0 Added a Summit fuel filter with replaceable screen.=C2=A0=
 Braided hose (-6) from the filter to the regulator, then to the carb bowls=
.=C2=A0 Joe(B)</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                    On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 07:39:52 PM EST, DENNIS =
WALJE via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">f=
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"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I am ready to install fuel system from cell to eng=
ine on my 68 GT6 MK1. I would value any leadership:<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">What is best- h=
ard line from pump to engine to engine or braided stainless?<br clear=3D"no=
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