Subject: Re: [Fot] Cam, etc...

From: robert bownes via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 17:29:51 -0500

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I'm not sure you (or any of us) could improve much on anything Bob did!. :)

On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 5:07 PM Dave Riddle via Fot <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Well gonna have to rebuild the engine in my TR3 (this was Bob Schaller=E2=
=80=99s
> car).
>
>
>
> Cylinder #1 120, #2 40, #3 110, #4 125
>
>
>
> Getting oil pushed out the dip stick so certainly seems like rings.
>
>
>
> The car used to have a sticker on one of the fenders inside the engine ba=
y
> that read Isky so guessing that is the brand of Cam that is in it.  We=E2=
=80=99ll
> see when the engine gets broken down to confirm and see which one.  Is
> there a Cam that the hive mind of FOT would recommend for a Road Car that
> would be preferred.  The current Cam gives the motor a nice sound but as
> long as we=E2=80=99re there it makes sense to go =E2=80=9Cbetter=E2=80=9D=
 too.
>
>
>
> Also what Pistons would you recommend?  Pretty sure the car is currently
> 87mm
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m not sure you (or any of us) co=
uld improve much on anything Bob did!. :)</div><div><br></div><div><br></di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 5:07 PM Dave Riddle via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg-525809189907003125=
8"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"m_-5258091899070031258WordSection1"><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Well gonna have to rebuild the engine in my TR3 (this =
was Bob Schaller=E2=80=99s car). <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cylinder #1 120, #2 40, #3 11=
0, #4 125<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">Getting oil pushed out the dip stick so certainly see=
ms like rings.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The car used to have a sticker on one of the fen=
ders inside the engine bay that read Isky so guessing that is the brand of =
Cam that is in it.=C2=A0 We=E2=80=99ll see when the engine gets broken down=
 to confirm and see which one.=C2=A0 Is there a Cam that the hive mind of F=
OT would recommend for a Road Car that would be preferred.=C2=A0 The curren=
t Cam gives the motor a nice sound but as long as we=E2=80=99re there it ma=
kes sense to go =E2=80=9Cbetter=E2=80=9D too.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Also what Pistons=
 would you recommend?=C2=A0 Pretty sure the car is currently 87mm<u></u><u>=
</u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
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From: Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 18:39:10 -0600

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I love my motor. Larry Young cam on new bla=
nk, 87 wiseco pistons, 12.5:1 compression. But this is clearly not in a road=
 car. &nbsp;But thinking about it, with a heavier flywheel in it, might not b=
e terrible on the road other than fuel costs. Lower the compression a bit an=
d use pump gas maybe marginally ok on street.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On J=
an 13, 2023, at 15:59, Dave Riddle via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:=
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ler=E2=80=99s car). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cylinder #1 120, #2 40, #3 110, #4 125<o:p></o:p><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Gettin=
g oil pushed out the dip stick so certainly seems like rings.<o:p></o:p></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The car u=
sed to have a sticker on one of the fenders inside the engine bay that read I=
sky so guessing that is the brand of Cam that is in it.&nbsp; We=E2=80=99ll s=
ee when the engine gets broken down to confirm and see which one.&nbsp; Is t=
here a Cam that the hive mind of FOT would recommend for a Road Car that wou=
ld be preferred.&nbsp; The current Cam gives the motor a nice sound but as l=
ong as we=E2=80=99re there it makes sense to go =E2=80=9Cbetter=E2=80=9D too=
.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
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I love my Larry Young designed cam, but would worry about longevity for 
street use.  It's very high lift for that.  We ran an Isky 666 back in 
the day and it may be better for that kind of use, but I may not be 
remembering how tractable it was now - may not have enough low end.

- Tony Drews

On 1/13/2023 6:39 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote:
> I love my motor. Larry Young cam on new blank, 87 wiseco pistons, 
> 12.5:1 compression. But this is clearly not in a road car.  But 
> thinking about it, with a heavier flywheel in it, might not be 
> terrible on the road other than fuel costs. Lower the compression a 
> bit and use pump gas maybe marginally ok on street.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 13, 2023, at 15:59, Dave Riddle via Fot <[email-masked]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Well gonna have to rebuild the engine in my TR3 (this was Bob 
>> Schaller’s car).
>>
>> The car used to have a sticker on one of the fenders inside the 
>> engine bay that read Isky so guessing that is the brand of Cam that 
>> is in it.  We’ll see when the engine gets broken down to confirm and 
>> see which one.  Is there a Cam that the hive mind of FOT would 
>> recommend for a Road Car that would be preferred.  The current Cam 
>> gives the motor a nice sound but as long as we’re there it makes 
>> sense to go “better” too.
>>
>> Also what Pistons would you recommend? Pretty sure the car is 
>> currently 87mm
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    <p>I love my Larry Young designed cam, but would worry about
      longevity for street use.  It's very high lift for that.  We ran
      an Isky 666 back in the day and it may be better for that kind of
      use, but I may not be remembering how tractable it was now - may
      not have enough low end.</p>
    <p>- Tony Drews<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/13/2023 6:39 PM, Greg Blake via
      Fot wrote:<br>
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      I love my motor. Larry Young cam on new blank, 87 wiseco pistons,
      12.5:1 compression. But this is clearly not in a road car.  But
      thinking about it, with a heavier flywheel in it, might not be
      terrible on the road other than fuel costs. Lower the compression
      a bit and use pump gas maybe marginally ok on street. <br>
      <br>
      <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        <blockquote type="cite">On Jan 13, 2023, at 15:59, Dave Riddle
          via Fot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Well gonna have to rebuild the engine
              in my TR3 (this was Bob Schaller’s car). <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Cylinder #1 120, #2 40, #3 110, #4 125<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Getting oil pushed out the dip stick so
              certainly seems like rings.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">The car used to have a sticker on one
              of the fenders inside the engine bay that read Isky so
              guessing that is the brand of Cam that is in it.  We’ll
              see when the engine gets broken down to confirm and see
              which one.  Is there a Cam that the hive mind of FOT would
              recommend for a Road Car that would be preferred.  The
              current Cam gives the motor a nice sound but as long as
              we’re there it makes sense to go “better” too.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Also what Pistons would you recommend? 
              Pretty sure the car is currently 87mm<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dave
                  Riddle<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Business IT Consulting<o:p></o:p></p>
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I'd think that cam would be too much for a street engine. I designed a 
more street friendly one with 270 degrees duration (226 at 0.050) and 
0.320 lift. A few guys bought them. Unfortunately, they were done CNC, 
so I never had a master made. I'd gladly share the numbers if someone 
wanted to make one. I think the stock TR4 cams are very good for a 
street motor.
  - Larry

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    I'd think that cam would be too much for a street engine. I designed
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    and 0.320 lift. A few guys bought them. Unfortunately, they were
    done CNC, so I never had a master made. I'd gladly share the numbers
    if someone wanted to make one. I think the stock TR4 cams are very
    good for a street motor. <br>
     - Larry<br>

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There is a list of cams at my website - 
https://www.tildentechnologies.com/Cams/TriumphCams.html. Some of them 
are no longer available.

>>> <https://www.citycommunications.com/>

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    There is a list of cams at my website -
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/14/2023 4:41 PM, Larry Young
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      I'd think that cam would be too much for a street engine. I
      designed a more street friendly one with 270 degrees duration (226
      at 0.050) and 0.320 lift. A few guys bought them. Unfortunately,
      they were done CNC, so I never had a master made. I'd gladly share
      the numbers if someone wanted to make one. I think the stock TR4
      cams are very good for a street motor. <br>
       - Larry<br>
      <br>
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        I love my motor. Larry Young cam on new blank, 87 wiseco
        pistons, 12.5:1 compression. But this is clearly not in a road
        car.  But thinking about it, with a heavier flywheel in it,
        might not be terrible on the road other than fuel costs. Lower
        the compression a bit and use pump gas maybe marginally ok on
        street. <br>
        <br>
        <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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                125<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Getting oil pushed out the dip stick
                so certainly seems like rings.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">The car used to have a sticker on one
                of the fenders inside the engine bay that read Isky so
                guessing that is the brand of Cam that is in it.  We’ll
                see when the engine gets broken down to confirm and see
                which one.  Is there a Cam that the hive mind of FOT
                would recommend for a Road Car that would be preferred. 
                The current Cam gives the motor a nice sound but as long
                as we’re there it makes sense to go “better” too.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Also what Pistons would you
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Greetings friends!
This may be of some interest for those looking for an edge in their racing =
program. I have been researching and designing my own cam for 30 years and =
even wrote my own cam design program to no avail. I have been using this pr=
ogram for the last 4 years and now its available to the public so cheap its=
 disturbing considering the thousands of dollars I have spent on software a=
nd blowing through close to 50 trial and error cams, 30 of them where on ne=
w cam blanks.
This program has taken my engines to another level and will give you all th=
e info you need for designing new engines or working with the parts you hav=
e but the best part is it will give you an s96 file to send to the cam grin=
der or you can make a master for a manual cam grinder. The s96 lob design i=
s yours, you own it and is not what the expert on the other end of the phon=
e thinks you should have.
Its all math and no guesswork. Cam companies have giant data bases for comm=
on motors and can get pretty close based on dyno data collected over 6-7 de=
cades. For anything other than Ford and Chevy we are pretty much on our own=
.
Normally I would not share this kind of info but Rick Jones and I have beco=
me friends over the years and I just want to help him out, there is nothing=
 in this for me. Below is the link to the software and it is stupid cheap a=
t the moment, I expect the price to increase shortly, its worth 5 times wha=
t its going for today.
I never enter into the cam conversations because even the best cam designer=
s and companies can't say with 100% certainty "this is exactly correct for =
you" so I refuse to get into a pissing contest with internet experts and bo=
y there is a lot of them out there.
This software will revolutionize cam design and the cam companies will most=
 likely loose there minds when we show up at PRI this year. Rick and I will=
 be sharing a booth with my steel synchro's and his software.=C2=A0
If the software is to much money or over your head, no worries I would be g=
lad to design a cam for a fee of course. ;-)=C2=A0
https://induction-logic.com/

Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequence=
s"
=20

    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 03:52:02 PM MST, Larry Young via Fot <=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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  I'd think that cam would be too much for a street engine. I designed a mo=
re street friendly one with 270 degrees duration (226 at 0.050) and 0.320 l=
ift. A few guys bought them. Unfortunately, they were done CNC, so I never =
had a master made. I'd gladly share the numbers if someone wanted to make o=
ne. I think the stock TR4 cams are very good for a street motor.=20
 =C2=A0- Larry
=20
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 I love my motor. Larry Young cam on new blank, 87 wiseco pistons, 12.5:1 c=
ompression. But this is clearly not in a road car. =C2=A0But thinking about=
 it, with a heavier flywheel in it, might not be terrible on the road other=
 than fuel costs. Lower the compression a bit and use pump gas maybe margin=
ally ok on street.=C2=A0
=20
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Well gonna have to rebuild the engine in my TR3 (this was Bob Schaller=E2=
=80=99s car).=20
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Cylinder #1 120, #2 40, #3 110, #4 125
=20
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Getting oil pushed out the dip stick so certainly seems like rings.
=20
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The car used to have a sticker on one of the fenders inside the engine bay =
that read Isky so guessing that is the brand of Cam that is in it.=C2=A0 We=
=E2=80=99ll see when the engine gets broken down to confirm and see which o=
ne.=C2=A0 Is there a Cam that the hive mind of FOT would recommend for a Ro=
ad Car that would be preferred.=C2=A0 The current Cam gives the motor a nic=
e sound but as long as we=E2=80=99re there it makes sense to go =E2=80=9Cbe=
tter=E2=80=9D too.
=20
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Also what Pistons would you recommend?=C2=A0 Pretty sure the car is current=
ly 87mm
=20
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=20

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Office: 480-610-8234
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Greetings friends!</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"f=
alse">This may be of some interest for those looking for an edge in their r=
acing program. I have been researching and designing my own cam for 30 year=
s and even wrote my own cam design program to no avail. I have been using t=
his program for the last 4 years and now its available to the public so che=
ap its disturbing considering the thousands of dollars I have spent on soft=
ware and blowing through close to 50 trial and error cams, 30 of them where=
 on new cam blanks.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">This program has taken my engines to =
another level and will give you all the info you need for designing new eng=
ines or working with the parts you have but the best part is it will give y=
ou an s96 file to send to the cam grinder or you can make a master for a ma=
nual cam grinder. The s96 lob design is yours, you own it and is not what t=
he expert on the other end of the phone thinks you should have.</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false">Its all math and no guesswork. Cam companies have giant data bases f=
or common motors and can get pretty close based on dyno data collected over=
 6-7 decades. For anything other than Ford and Chevy we are pretty much on =
our own.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Normally I would not share this kind of info but=
 Rick Jones and I have become friends over the years and I just want to hel=
p him out, there is nothing in this for me. Below is the link to the softwa=
re and it is stupid cheap at the moment, I expect the price to increase sho=
rtly, its worth 5 times what its going for today.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" dat=
a-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I never=
 enter into the cam conversations because even the best cam designers and c=
ompanies can't say with 100% certainty "this is exactly correct for you" so=
 I refuse to get into a pissing contest with internet experts and boy there=
 is a lot of them out there.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">This software will revolutio=
nize cam design and the cam companies will most likely loose there minds wh=
en we show up at PRI this year. Rick and I will be sharing a booth with my =
steel synchro's and his software.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">If the software=
 is to much money or over your head, no worries I would be glad to design a=
 cam for a fee of course. ;-)&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><a href=3D"https://in=
duction-logic.com/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://induction-lo=
gic.com/</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div=
><br></div><div class=3D"ydpbb95d0bsignature"><div style=3D"font-family:Hel=
vetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick Parent</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">"<i>Doing the right thing is =
always the right thing, regardless of consequences</i>"</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div></div></div></div>
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                    On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 03:52:02 PM MST, Larry=
 Young via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
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    I'd think that cam would be too much for a street engine. I designed
    a more street friendly one with 270 degrees duration (226 at 0.050)
    and 0.320 lift. A few guys bought them. Unfortunately, they were
    done CNC, so I never had a master made. I'd gladly share the numbers
    if someone wanted to make one. I think the stock TR4 cams are very
    good for a street motor. <br clear=3D"none">
    &nbsp;- Larry<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div id=3D"yiv6551636816yqtfd30992" class=3D"yiv6551636816yqt5629707058=
"><div class=3D"yiv6551636816moz-cite-prefix">On 1/13/2023 6:39 PM, Greg Bl=
ake via
      Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv6551636816yqtfd81761" class=3D=
"yiv6551636816yqt5629707058"><div>
      I love my motor. Larry Young cam on new blank, 87 wiseco pistons,
      12.5:1 compression. But this is clearly not in a road car. &nbsp;But
      thinking about it, with a heavier flywheel in it, might not be
      terrible on the road other than fuel costs. Lower the compression
      a bit and use pump gas maybe marginally ok on street.&nbsp;<br clear=
=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
        <blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 13, 2023, at 15:59, Dave Riddle
          via Fot <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@au=
tox.team.net" class=3D"yiv6551636816moz-txt-link-rfc2396E">&lt;[email-masked]=
am.net&gt;</a> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
          <br clear=3D"none">
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            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal">Well gonna have to rebuild =
the engine
              in my TR3 (this was Bob Schaller=E2=80=99s car). </p>=20
            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal">Cylinder #1 120, #2 40, #3 =
110, #4 125</p>=20
            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal">Getting oil pushed out the =
dip stick so
              certainly seems like rings.</p>=20
            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal">The car used to have a stic=
ker on one
              of the fenders inside the engine bay that read Isky so
              guessing that is the brand of Cam that is in it.&nbsp; We=E2=
=80=99ll
              see when the engine gets broken down to confirm and see
              which one.&nbsp; Is there a Cam that the hive mind of FOT wou=
ld
              recommend for a Road Car that would be preferred.&nbsp; The
              current Cam gives the motor a nice sound but as long as
              we=E2=80=99re there it makes sense to go =E2=80=9Cbetter=E2=
=80=9D too.</p>=20
            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal">Also what Pistons would you=
 recommend?&nbsp;
              Pretty sure the car is currently 87mm</p>=20
            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
 noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.microworks=
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get=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.microworks.net/">&lt;image001.jpg&gt;</a>=
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:12.0pt;">Dave
                  Riddle</span></b></p>=20
            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal">Business IT Consulting</p>=
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            <p class=3D"yiv6551636816MsoNormal">Website: <a rel=3D"nofollow=
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icroworks.net/"><span style=3D"color:blue;">http://www.microworks.net</span=
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soft.com/en-US/"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;"></s=
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            <div><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://partner.microsoft.com/en-US/">&lt;image002.p=
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rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.clio.com/"><span style=3D"color:blue;te=
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