Subject: Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question

From: Brad Eells via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 11:48:06 -0800

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Walt,<div><br></div><div>I went with Pauter=
 rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger rod bolt than Carillo.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Car=
illos and a rod bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.<br><br><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via=
 Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote=
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oNormal">I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding c=
onnecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am considering C=
arrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods. <o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods a=
re worth the extra bucks or should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding consideri=
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 16:42:04 -0500

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the carillo rods, at least for the GT6 - same, I think as the Spit and =
the TR6 - do have these dinky little 1/4=E2=80=9D bolts. I=E2=80=99ve =
never had a failure in action, but did overstretch one because I used =
ARP lube instead of Carillo lube - the arp lube is slicker.  Those bolts =
cost about $42 each!  I now use the correct lube, measure them before =
and after I install and uninstall them, etc.  No issues at 7000 rpm, =
just about every shift.

On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

Walt,

I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger rod =
bolt than Carillo.

Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod =
bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.

Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

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> Thanks,
> Walter Hollowell
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">the =
carillo rods, at least for the GT6 - same, I think as the Spit and the =
TR6 - do have these dinky little 1/4=E2=80=9D bolts. I=E2=80=99ve never =
had a failure in action, but did overstretch one because I used ARP lube =
instead of Carillo lube - the arp lube is slicker. &nbsp;Those bolts =
cost about $42 each! &nbsp;I now use the correct lube, measure them =
before and after I install and uninstall them, etc. &nbsp;No issues at =
7000 rpm, just about every shift.<div class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Brad Eells via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
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class=3D"">Walt,</span><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D"">I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the =
use of a larger rod bolt than Carillo.</div><div style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana-Bold; font-size: 13px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
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text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D"">Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his =
Carillos and a rod bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.</div><div =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana-Bold; =
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class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1;"><div style=3D"margin:=
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have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding =
connecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am =
considering Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding =
rods.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
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class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
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From: Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:43:10 +0000 (UTC)

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Walter;
I asked the same question a few years ago for my TR4A. =C2=A0I was advised =
BY FOT that if I went with MaxSpeeding I should have a machine shop do a th=
orough check and re-machining=C2=A0as necessary. =C2=A0That work would more=
 or less cancel out any of the initial savings. There i also the question o=
f the small end bushing. Carillo uses an alloy that is much more robust tha=
n the stock bushing. =C2=A0Not sure about MaxSpeeding. =C2=A0So, considerin=
g how much I put into the rest of the engine, the cost difference was minim=
al. =C2=A0So for a full race engine I went Carillo. =C2=A0Carillo=C2=A0=3D =
peace of mind.=C2=A0
For a street engine MaxSpeeding are likely equal or better than stock, alth=
ough i recall that the width of the MaxSpeeding big ends was not as wide as=
 the stock rods - very similar to Carillo in that case.
Hope this helps.
Phil Gott#114 TR4A

-----Original Message-----
From: Walt Hollowell via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: 'fot' <[email-masked]>
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Subject: [Fot] Connecting rod question

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I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding connectin=
g rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am considering Carrillo=
 rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods.=20

Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks or=
 should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the affordability?

Thanks,

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico

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<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10=
pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Walter;</div><div style=3D"font-family: =
arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=
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"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-siz=
e: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">I asked the same question a few yea=
rs ago for my TR4A. &nbsp;I was advised BY FOT that if I went with MaxSpeed=
ing I should have a machine shop do a thorough check and re-machining&nbsp;=
as necessary. &nbsp;That work would more or less cancel out any of the init=
ial savings. There i also the question of the small end bushing. Carillo us=
es an alloy that is much more robust than the stock bushing. &nbsp;Not sure=
 about MaxSpeeding. &nbsp;So, considering how much I put into the rest of t=
he engine, the cost difference was minimal. &nbsp;So for a full race engine=
 I went Carillo. &nbsp;Carillo&nbsp;=3D peace of mind.&nbsp;</div><div styl=
e=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black=
;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10=
pt; color: black;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: ari=
al,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">For a street engin=
e MaxSpeeding are likely equal or better than stock, although i recall that=
 the width of the MaxSpeeding big ends was not as wide as the stock rods - =
very similar to Carillo in that case.</div><div style=3D"font-family: arial=
,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"fo=
nt-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: black;"><br>=
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t; color: black;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Hope this helps.</div><div style=3D"font-=
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ata-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; =
color: black;">#114 TR4A<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Wal=
t Hollowell via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: 'fot' &lt;[email-masked]=
eam.net&gt;<br>Sent: Wed, Jan 25, 2023 2:47 pm<br>Subject: [Fot] Connecting=
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Speeding connecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am co=
nsidering Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods=
. </p><p class=3D"yiv4760231531MsoNormal">Do and FOT members feel that the =
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I agree with Brad's recommendation on the Pauter rods. I went with them on
my Spit after talking to MGA guys. Their motors have more torque than mine
and I didn't come across any reports of rod induced failures.
I also never had a properly prepared Triumph rod fail either but how old
(and stressed) are the newest Spitfire rods now?

mike h

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 4:31 PM Brad Eells via Fot <[email-masked]>
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> Walt,
>
> I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger rod
> bolt than Carillo.
>
> Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod bol=
t
> failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.
>
> On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding
> connecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am consideri=
ng
> Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods.
>
> Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks
> or should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the affordability?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Walter Hollowell
>
> Albuquerque, New Mexico
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I agree with Brad&#39;s recommendation=C2=A0on the Pauter=
=C2=A0rods. I went with them on my Spit after talking to MGA guys. Their mo=
tors have more torque than mine and I didn&#39;t come across any reports of=
 rod induced failures.<div>I also never had a properly prepared Triumph rod=
 fail either but how old (and stressed) are the newest Spitfire rods now?</=
div><div><br></div><div>mike h</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 4:31 PM Brad Ee=
lls via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
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v dir=3D"auto">Walt,<div><br></div><div>I went with Pauter rods for the Spi=
tfire due to the use of a larger rod bolt than Carillo.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod=
 bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.</div><div><br></div><div>Not sure=
 how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">B=
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engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding connecting rods with acceptable result=
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nd FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks or sho=
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Walt,

The Maxpeeding rods are a good budget option as you already know....but as
they are an off the shelf "bolt in" replacement for a stock rod as far as
the critical dimensions, you are somewhat limited to what you can do with
piston design when you use them.

On the other hand, if you are spending the extra budget on the more
expensive rods, (My experiences are with Pauter), it opens your world up to
design them together with a new set of pistons to bring things a bit more
up to date.

Jason Sukey

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 2:29 PM Walt Hollowell via Fot <[email-masked]>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Walt,<div><br></div><div>The Maxpeeding rods are a good bu=
dget option as you already know....but as they are an off the shelf &quot;b=
olt in&quot; replacement for a stock rod as far as the critical dimensions,=
 you are somewhat limited to what you can do with piston design when you us=
e them.<div><br></div><div>On the other hand, if you are spending the extra=
 budget on the more expensive rods, (My experiences are with Pauter), it op=
ens your world up to design them together with a new set of pistons to brin=
g things a bit more up to date.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jas=
on Sukey=C2=A0=C2=A0</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 2:29 PM Walt Hollow=
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ap: break-word;"><div class=3D"m_5690215774632718062WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpe=
eding connecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am consi=
dering Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods. <=
u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Do and FOT members feel that the Ca=
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ding considering the affordability?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
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 I have also been using Pauter rods, rather than Carillos, due to cost.=C2=
=A0 Pauter web site does not list prices.=C2=A0 JoeB
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 04:35:22 PM EST, Brad Eells via Fot <=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 Walt,
I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger rod bol=
t than Carillo.
Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod bolt =
failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.
Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.

Brad EellsSent from my iPhone

On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

=EF=BB=BF

Thanks,

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico

l.com

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I have also been using Paute=
r rods, rather than Carillos, due to cost.&nbsp; Pauter web site does not l=
ist prices.&nbsp; JoeB</div><div><br></div>
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp46fad144yiv1793057686"><div>Walt,<div><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div>I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to=
 the use of a larger rod bolt than Carillo.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div>Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a =
rod bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div>Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.<br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my =
iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ydp46fad144yiv1793057686yqtfd=
12987" class=3D"ydp46fad144yiv1793057686yqt8622587019"><br clear=3D"none"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via F=
ot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><=
/blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"ydp46fad144yiv1793057686yqtfd41791" clas=
s=3D"ydp46fad144yiv1793057686yqt8622587019"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
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ad144yiv1793057686yqtfd72316" class=3D"ydp46fad144yiv1793057686yqt862258701=
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dSection1"><p class=3D"ydp46fad144yiv1793057686MsoNormal">I have built a fe=
w full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding connecting rods with accep=
table results. For my next build I am considering Carrillo rods which run a=
bout $650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods. </p><p class=3D"ydp46fad144yiv179=
3057686MsoNormal">Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth =
the extra bucks or should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the a=
ffordability?</p><p class=3D"ydp46fad144yiv1793057686MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>=
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 Speaking of rods, I have a couple of stock 1296 Spitfire rods, left over f=
rom my Spitfire days.=C2=A0 They were magnifluxed.=C2=A0 Does anyone want t=
hem for the cost of shipping?=C2=A0 JoeB
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 07:09:47 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot=
 <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 I agree with Brad's recommendation=C2=A0on the Pauter=C2=A0rods. I went wi=
th them on my Spit after talking to MGA guys. Their motors have more torque=
 than mine and I didn't come across any reports of rod induced failures.I a=
lso never had a properly prepared Triumph rod fail either but how old (and =
stressed) are the newest Spitfire rods now?
mike h
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 4:31 PM Brad Eells via Fot <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

Walt,

=EF=BB=BF

Thanks,

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Speaking of rods, I have a c=
ouple of stock 1296 Spitfire rods, left over from my Spitfire days.&nbsp; T=
hey were magnifluxed.&nbsp; Does anyone want them for the cost of shipping?=
&nbsp; JoeB</div><div><br></div>
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                    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 07:09:47 PM EST, Mike=
 Harmuth via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp5ca3fc4dyiv4427200872"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">I agree with Brad's recommendation&nbsp;on the Pauter&nbsp;rods. I wen=
t with them on my Spit after talking to MGA guys. Their motors have more to=
rque than mine and I didn't come across any reports of rod induced failures=
.<div>I also never had a properly prepared Triumph rod fail either but how =
old (and stressed) are the newest Spitfire rods now?</div><div><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div>mike h</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp5ca=
3fc4dyiv4427200872gmail_quote"><div id=3D"ydp5ca3fc4dyiv4427200872yqt25510"=
 class=3D"ydp5ca3fc4dyiv4427200872yqt8744509130"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
ydp5ca3fc4dyiv4427200872gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 4:31 PM Brad Ee=
lls via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp5ca3fc4dyiv=
4427200872gmail_quote"><div>Walt,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I went =
with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger rod bolt than =
Carillo.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Marty Sukey posted some ve=
ry nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enoug=
h for me.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Not sure how it will appl=
y to TR6 items but worth a look.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, =
Walt Hollowell via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div><p class=3D"ydp5ca3fc4dyiv4=
427200872MsoNormal">I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using M=
axSpeeding connecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am =
considering Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding ro=
ds. <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"ydp5ca3fc4dyiv4427200872MsoNormal">Do and=
 FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks or shoul=
d I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the affordability?<u></u><u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"ydp5ca3fc4dyiv4427200872MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u>=
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 that is what is in my engine
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From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf OfBrad Eells via Fot
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question
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Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod bolt =
failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.
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Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.
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<p class=3D"ydpfa0ade75yiv1592042712MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve used the Pauter=
 rods to good effect, too.&nbsp; They have proven very durable for me!<br c=
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:48 PM<br clear=3D"none">
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<p class=3D"ydpfa0ade75yiv1592042712MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpfa0ade75yiv1592042712MsoNormal">Marty Sukey posted some very=
 nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough =
for me.</p>=20
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ts. For my next build I am considering Carrillo rods which run about $650 m=
ore than the MaxSpeeding rods.
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I check every rod before use,  no matter the brand.  I've found the
MaxPeeding rods all to be in spec on the big end,  within. 0002" of each
other in a set.   Sometimes the small end needs a tiny bit of hone, but
that's not different with Pauter.

Jason

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023, 6:30 PM Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Walter;
>
> I asked the same question a few years ago for my TR4A.  I was advised BY
> FOT that if I went with MaxSpeeding I should have a machine shop do a
> thorough check and re-machining as necessary.  That work would more or less
> cancel out any of the initial savings. There i also the question of the
> small end bushing. Carillo uses an alloy that is much more robust than the
> stock bushing.  Not sure about MaxSpeeding.  So, considering how much I put
> into the rest of the engine, the cost difference was minimal.  So for a
> full race engine I went Carillo.  Carillo = peace of mind.
>
> For a street engine MaxSpeeding are likely equal or better than stock,
> although i recall that the width of the MaxSpeeding big ends was not as
> wide as the stock rods - very similar to Carillo in that case.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Phil Gott
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<div dir=3D"auto">I check every rod before use,=C2=A0 no matter the brand.=
=C2=A0 I&#39;ve found the MaxPeeding rods all to be in spec on the big end,=
=C2=A0 within. 0002&quot; of each other in a set.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Sometimes the=
 small end needs a tiny bit of hone, but that&#39;s not different with Paut=
er.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Jason=C2=A0</d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Wed, Jan 25, 2023, 6:30 PM Phil Gott via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fo=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</=
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ze:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:black"><div style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black">Walter;</=
div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;col=
or:black"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:10pt;color:black">I asked the same question a few years ago for my =
TR4A.=C2=A0 I was advised BY FOT that if I went with MaxSpeeding I should h=
ave a machine shop do a thorough check and re-machining=C2=A0as necessary.=
=C2=A0 That work would more or less cancel out any of the initial savings. =
There i also the question of the small end bushing. Carillo uses an alloy t=
hat is much more robust than the stock bushing.=C2=A0 Not sure about MaxSpe=
eding.=C2=A0 So, considering how much I put into the rest of the engine, th=
e cost difference was minimal.=C2=A0 So for a full race engine I went Caril=
lo.=C2=A0 Carillo=C2=A0=3D peace of mind.=C2=A0</div><div style=3D"font-fam=
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For a street engine MaxSpeeding are likely equal or better than stock, alth=
ough i recall that the width of the MaxSpeeding big ends was not as wide as=
 the stock rods - very similar to Carillo in that case.</div><div style=3D"=
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l race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding connecting rods with acceptable=
 results. For my next build I am considering Carrillo rods which run about =
$650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods. </p><p>Do and FOT members feel that th=
e Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks or should I be happy with the Max=
Speeding considering the affordability?</p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Walter Hollowel=
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 19:58:34 -0800 (PST)

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I can't recall the size of ARP the bolts in the Carrillo rods I have, but t=
hey are the larger of the two different ARP sizes, at least 5/16" maybe 3/8=
", and are reusable if they haven't been over stretched.  Of course, the ro=
ds must also be different than those with the 1/4" bolt design.  I have lit=
erature from Carrillo, but I double and triple checked the facts of the fas=
teners before reusing them.  I called Carrillo too.  The rods were used pre=
viously to my acquiring them, with the included bolts. =20
I was sure glad I didn't have to spend $46 each, or whatever they were at t=
he time, but I'm sure it was something like that, and I made damn sure ever=
ything was in good order before moving forward. =20
Dave H. =20

>     On 01/25/2023 3:34 PM Barr, Scott via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
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>     I had the same experience with the dinky little =C2=BC=E2=80=9D ARP r=
od bolts in my Carrillo set.  I had a hard time trusting them.  I did measu=
re them for yield each time I used them, but I mostly went by feel while to=
rquing them up.  There were just times when you could feel them stretch the=
 normal amount and some times when you could feel them streeeeeetch a bit m=
ore.  I replaced them at that point, regardless of what the measurements sa=
id.  Never had one break in use though, while I did have a 5/16ths ARP rod =
bolt break in a lightened stock rod.
>=20
>=20
>     Scott (B.)
>=20
>=20
>     From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via =
Fot
>     Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 3:42 PM
>     To: Brad Eells <[email-masked]>
>     Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <[email-masked]>
>     the carillo rods, at least for the GT6 - same, I think as the Spit an=
d the TR6 - do have these dinky little 1/4=E2=80=9D bolts. I=E2=80=99ve nev=
er had a failure in action, but did overstretch one because I used ARP lube=
 instead of Carillo lube - the arp lube is slicker.  Those bolts cost about=
 $42 each!  I now use the correct lube, measure them before and after I ins=
tall and uninstall them, etc.  No issues at 7000 rpm, just about every shif=
t.
>=20
>=20
>     On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <[email-masked] m=
ailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
>=20
>=20
>     Walt,
>=20
>     =20
>=20
>     I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger r=
od bolt than Carillo.
>=20
>     =20
>=20
>     Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod=
> >         On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot@autox=
.team.net mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> >=20
> >     >=20
>         > >=20
> >=20
> >         I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeedi=
ng connecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am consider=
ing Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods.=20
> >=20
> >         Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the ex=
tra bucks or should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the afforda=
bility?
> >=20
> >         Thanks,
> >=20
> >         Walter Hollowell
> >=20
> >         Albuquerque, New Mexico
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I can't recall =
the size of ARP the bolts in the Carrillo rods I have, but they are the lar=
ger of the two different ARP sizes, at least 5/16" maybe 3/8", and are reus=
able if they haven't been over stretched.&nbsp; Of course, the rods must al=
so be different than those with the 1/4" bolt design.&nbsp; I have literatu=
re from Carrillo, but I double and triple checked the facts of the fastener=
s before reusing them.&nbsp; I called Carrillo too.&nbsp; The rods were use=
d previously to my acquiring them, with the included bolts.&nbsp;&nbsp;</sp=
an>
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I was sure glad=
 I didn't have to spend $46 each, or whatever they were at the time, but I'=
m sure it was something like that, and I made damn sure everything was in g=
ood order before moving forward.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
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bsp;</span>
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    On 01/25/2023 3:34 PM Barr, Scott via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wr=
ote:
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I had the same experience with the dinky little =
=C2=BC=E2=80=9D ARP rod bolts in my Carrillo set.&nbsp; I had a hard time t=
rusting them.&nbsp; I did measure them for yield each time I used them, but=
 I mostly went by feel while torquing them up.&nbsp; There were just times =
when you could feel them stretch the normal amount and some times when you =
could feel them streeeeeetch a bit more.&nbsp; I replaced them at that poin=
t, regardless of what the measurements said.&nbsp; Never had one break in u=
se though, while I did have a 5/16ths ARP rod bolt break in a lightened sto=
ck rod.</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Scott (B.)</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
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3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Fot &lt;fot-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Scott Janzen via Fot<br><stro=
ng>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, January 25, 2023 3:42 PM<br><strong>To:</stron=
g> Brad Eells &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><strong>Cc:</strong> 'Friends o=
f Triumph' Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> =
Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question</p>
     </div>
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">the carillo rods, at least for the GT6 - same, I=
 think as the Spit and the TR6 - do have these dinky little 1/4=E2=80=9D bo=
lts. I=E2=80=99ve never had a failure in action, but did overstretch one be=
cause I used ARP lube instead of Carillo lube - the arp lube is slicker. &n=
bsp;Those bolts cost about $42 each! &nbsp;I now use the correct lube, meas=
ure them before and after I install and uninstall them, etc. &nbsp;No issue=
s at 7000 rpm, just about every shift.</p>
    <div>
     <div>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
      <div>
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Jan 25, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Brad Eells via F=
ot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:</p>
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       <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family=
: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">Walt,</span></p>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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       <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to t=
he use of a larger rod bolt than Carillo.</span></p>
       </div>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of hi=
s Carillos and a rod bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.</span></p>
       </div>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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        <p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">Not sure how it =
will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.</span></p>
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         <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-fami=
ly: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">Brad Eells</span></p>
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-fam=
ily: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">Sent from my iPhone</span></p>
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          <p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana-Bold',serif;">On Jan 25, 202=
3, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <div>
           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have built a few full race engines for =
my TR6 using MaxSpeeding connecting rods with acceptable results. For my ne=
xt build I am considering Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the =
MaxSpeeding rods.<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo=
 rods are worth the extra bucks or should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding c=
onsidering the affordability?</p>
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           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
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 Hi - For TR6, the challenge is the bore being less than 3 inches. A lot of=
 the aftermarket rod big ends won't fit down the bore. So, from this seat, =
the choices are limited. The Max SPeeding rods use 5/16" ARP 2000 rod bolts=
, so they will not fit into a stock bore, you MUST overbore by +.030 or mor=
e. At least that's what I recall. Most of us will go for a max. overbore to=
 be legal, +.040 but there's most likely some motors out there that are mor=
e than .040 over... the point being that the larger than stock big end dime=
nsions will work with those over-overbores. One potential "gotcha" for the =
H-beam rods is the side clearance to the bottom of the piston bore on one s=
ide is almost zero, so you have to relieve the bottom of the piston bore fo=
r clearance. This is no big deal, but it must be done. This is one area whe=
re the Carillo and Pauter has an advantage... one less "step" in the build =
process.

I will also say that I built a motor a few years ago with the MaxSpeeding R=
ods and had them checked out and found them to be as others reported, dimen=
sions spot on, and balanced and equal weight within less than 1 gram across=
 the set. Actually, 5 rods were the same weight and one was about .5 grams =
heavier. I also saw a small variance in the small end bush and had to light=
ly hone 1 of the rods to get the wrist pin to fit properly. Honestly, the f=
inish of the parts was impressive. I'll probably use them again. The bigges=
t reason: when I bought that set, it was less expensive for a entire set th=
an it would be to recondition and balance a set of stock rods.
I don't have enough hours on that engine to address longevity, but I will s=
ay that at the time I bought the set from Max SPeeding, several FOTs also r=
eported on or off list that they had good experience with them. I have seen=
 zero reports to the contrary.
Based on that experience, other than potential questions about the material=
 composition of the rods, e.g. 4130 steel, I wouldn't steer anyone away fro=
m using these parts. And right now, I'll take new metal over stuff that was=
 made when the earth was still cooling... anytime.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:26:14 PM EST, John H. Hasty via Fo=
t <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 Gosh guys, with the almost unlimited selection of racing rods for Ford and=
 Chevy v8 monster engines at reasonable prices, why are you paying and pray=
ing for stock =C2=A0sized replicas?

Sent from my iPhone

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;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi - For TR6, the challenge =
is the bore being less than 3 inches. A lot of the aftermarket rod big ends=
 won't fit down the bore. So, from this seat, the choices are limited. The =
Max SPeeding rods use 5/16" ARP 2000 rod bolts, so they will not fit into a=
 stock bore, you MUST overbore by +.030 or more. At least that's what I rec=
all. Most of us will go for a max. overbore to be legal, +.040 but there's =
most likely some motors out there that are more than .040 over... the point=
 being that the larger than stock big end dimensions will work with those o=
ver-overbores. One potential "gotcha" for the H-beam rods is the side clear=
ance to the bottom of the piston bore on one side is almost zero, so you ha=
ve to relieve the bottom of the piston bore for clearance. This is no big d=
eal, but it must be done. This is one area where the Carillo and Pauter has=
 an advantage... one less "step" in the build process.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
">I will also say that I built a motor a few years ago with the MaxSpeeding=
 Rods and had them checked out and found them to be as others reported, dim=
ensions spot on, and balanced and equal weight within less than 1 gram acro=
ss the set. Actually, 5 rods were the same weight and one was about .5 gram=
s heavier. I also saw a small variance in the small end bush and had to lig=
htly hone 1 of the rods to get the wrist pin to fit properly. Honestly, the=
 finish of the parts was impressive. I'll probably use them again. The bigg=
est reason: when I bought that set, it was less expensive for a entire set =
than it would be to recondition and balance a set of stock rods.</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false">I don't have enough hours on that engine to address longevity, but =
I will say that at the time I bought the set from Max SPeeding, several FOT=
s also reported on or off list that they had good experience with them. I h=
ave seen zero reports to the contrary.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Based on that expe=
rience, other than potential questions about the material composition of th=
e rods, e.g. 4130 steel, I wouldn't steer anyone away from using these part=
s. And right now, I'll take new metal over stuff that was made when the ear=
th was still cooling... anytime.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Regards,</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Bob Lang<br></div><div><br></div>
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                    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:26:14 PM EST, John=
 H. Hasty via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297"><div>
Gosh guys, with the almost unlimited selection of racing rods for Ford and =
Chevy v8 monster engines at reasonable prices, why are you paying and prayi=
ng for stock &nbsp;sized replicas?<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div id=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297yqt97760" class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942=
297yqt7169228958"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 25, 2023, at 8:42 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
</div></blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297yqt37746"=
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4da6yiv1167942297WordSection1">
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve used the Pauter=
 rods to good effect, too.&nbsp; They have proven very durable for me!<br c=
lear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Scott (B.)</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<div style=3D"border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; b=
order-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt=
 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;fot-bou=
[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Brad Eells via Fot<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:48 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question</p>=20
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</div>
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Walt,</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">I went with Pauter rods for =
the Spitfire due to the use of a larger rod bolt than Carillo.</p>=20
</div>
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<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Marty Sukey posted some very=
 nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough =
for me.</p>=20
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</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNorm=
al">Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.</p>=20
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNorm=
al">On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"re=
ct" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer =
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<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">I have built a few full race=
 engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding connecting rods with acceptable resul=
ts. For my next build I am considering Carrillo rods which run about $650 m=
ore than the MaxSpeeding rods.
</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Do and FOT members feel that=
 the Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks or should I be happy with the =
MaxSpeeding considering the affordability?</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Walter Hollowell</p>=20
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 Bob,Yes, I also ran into the issue of the side of the MS rod hitting the b=
ottom of the bore. Nothing like taking a grinder to a freshly honed block! =
As it turned out, I only needed to make about an 1/8" chamfer on one side. =
Car has been running well for a couple of race weekends so far. Even surviv=
ed Henry Morrison racing it at RA! Just kidding, Henry was a huge help with=
 sorting and set up. I also have the MS roods in my Sprite 1275 and in our =
TR3. Seem to be pretty bombproof, and the price point is hard to beat.
Hope to see you all at the Cup in July!Jake
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 07:24:26 AM CST, Robert Lang via Fot <=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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  Hi - For TR6, the challenge is the bore being less than 3 inches. A lot o=
f the aftermarket rod big ends won't fit down the bore. So, from this seat,=
 the choices are limited. The Max SPeeding rods use 5/16" ARP 2000 rod bolt=
s, so they will not fit into a stock bore, you MUST overbore by +.030 or mo=
re. At least that's what I recall. Most of us will go for a max. overbore t=
o be legal, +.040 but there's most likely some motors out there that are mo=
re than .040 over... the point being that the larger than stock big end dim=
ensions will work with those over-overbores. One potential "gotcha" for the=
 H-beam rods is the side clearance to the bottom of the piston bore on one =
side is almost zero, so you have to relieve the bottom of the piston bore f=
or clearance. This is no big deal, but it must be done. This is one area wh=
ere the Carillo and Pauter has an advantage... one less "step" in the build=
 process.

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Bob,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false">Yes, I also ran into the issue of the side of the MS r=
od hitting the bottom of the bore. Nothing like taking a grinder to a fresh=
ly honed block! As it turned out, I only needed to make about an 1/8" chamf=
er on one side. Car has been running well for a couple of race weekends so =
far. Even survived Henry Morrison racing it at RA! Just kidding, Henry was =
a huge help with sorting and set up. I also have the MS roods in my Sprite =
1275 and in our TR3. Seem to be pretty bombproof, and the price point is ha=
rd to beat.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hope to see you all at the Cup in July!</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jake</div><div><br></div>
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                    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 07:24:26 AM CST, Rober=
t Lang via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px=
;" class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpe19d721ayahoo-style-wrap"><div></div=
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi - For TR6, the challenge is the bore being less=
 than 3 inches. A lot of the aftermarket rod big ends won't fit down the bo=
re. So, from this seat, the choices are limited. The Max SPeeding rods use =
5/16" ARP 2000 rod bolts, so they will not fit into a stock bore, you MUST =
overbore by +.030 or more. At least that's what I recall. Most of us will g=
o for a max. overbore to be legal, +.040 but there's most likely some motor=
s out there that are more than .040 over... the point being that the larger=
 than stock big end dimensions will work with those over-overbores. One pot=
ential "gotcha" for the H-beam rods is the side clearance to the bottom of =
the piston bore on one side is almost zero, so you have to relieve the bott=
om of the piston bore for clearance. This is no big deal, but it must be do=
ne. This is one area where the Carillo and Pauter has an advantage... one l=
ess "step" in the build process.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I will also say that I built a mot=
or a few years ago with the MaxSpeeding Rods and had them checked out and f=
ound them to be as others reported, dimensions spot on, and balanced and eq=
ual weight within less than 1 gram across the set. Actually, 5 rods were th=
e same weight and one was about .5 grams heavier. I also saw a small varian=
ce in the small end bush and had to lightly hone 1 of the rods to get the w=
rist pin to fit properly. Honestly, the finish of the parts was impressive.=
 I'll probably use them again. The biggest reason: when I bought that set, =
it was less expensive for a entire set than it would be to recondition and =
balance a set of stock rods.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">I don't have enough hours on that engine to address longe=
vity, but I will say that at the time I bought the set from Max SPeeding, s=
everal FOTs also reported on or off list that they had good experience with=
 them. I have seen zero reports to the contrary.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Based on that experience, other than =
potential questions about the material composition of the rods, e.g. 4130 s=
teel, I wouldn't steer anyone away from using these parts. And right now, I=
'll take new metal over stuff that was made when the earth was still coolin=
g... anytime.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Lang<br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div>
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                    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:26:14 PM EST, John=
 H. Hasty via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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42297"><div>
Gosh guys, with the almost unlimited selection of racing rods for Ford and =
Chevy v8 monster engines at reasonable prices, why are you paying and prayi=
ng for stock &nbsp;sized replicas?<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div id=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297yqt97760" class=
=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297yqt7169228958"><div dir=
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 25, 2023, at 8:42 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</blockquote>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
</div></blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14d=
a6yiv1167942297yqt37746" class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv116=
7942297yqt7169228958"><div><div class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da=
6yiv1167942297WordSection1">
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">I=E2=
=80=99ve used the Pauter rods to good effect, too.&nbsp; They have proven v=
ery durable for me!<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Scot=
t (B.)</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> &nb=
sp;</p>=20
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der-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0i=
n;">
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"><b>F=
rom:</b> Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Brad Eells via Fot<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:48 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question</p>=20
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> &nb=
sp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Walt=
,</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> &nb=
sp;</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">I we=
nt with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger rod bolt th=
an Carillo.</p>=20
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<div>
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> &nb=
sp;</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Mart=
y Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod bolt fail=
ure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> &nb=
sp;</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b1=
4da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but wor=
th a look.</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Brad=
 Eells</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Sent=
 from my iPhone</p>=20
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b1=
4da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell vi=
a Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
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=BB=BF</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">I ha=
ve built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding connecting ro=
ds with acceptable results. For my next build I am considering Carrillo rod=
s which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods.
</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Do a=
nd FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks or sho=
uld I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the affordability?</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Than=
ks,</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Walt=
er Hollowell</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Albu=
querque, New Mexico</p>=20
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 07:33:55 -0800

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Yes, I=E2=80=99ve had to do this on the early 6 blocks, for some reason =
the casting had changed in the later blocks, no clearance problem.

Charly Mitchel

TR6 #44

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From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Erik Jacobsen via =
Fot
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 5:46 AM
To: John H. Hasty <[email-masked]>; Robert Lang =
<[email-masked]>
Cc: fot <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question

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Bob,

Yes, I also ran into the issue of the side of the MS rod hitting the =
bottom of the bore. Nothing like taking a grinder to a freshly honed =
block! As it turned out, I only needed to make about an 1/8" chamfer on =
one side. Car has been running well for a couple of race weekends so =
far. Even survived Henry Morrison racing it at RA! Just kidding, Henry =
was a huge help with sorting and set up. I also have the MS roods in my =
Sprite 1275 and in our TR3. Seem to be pretty bombproof, and the price =
point is hard to beat.

=20

Hope to see you all at the Cup in July!

Jake

=20

On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 07:24:26 AM CST, Robert Lang via Fot =

=20

=20

Hi - For TR6, the challenge is the bore being less than 3 inches. A lot =
of the aftermarket rod big ends won't fit down the bore. So, from this =
seat, the choices are limited. The Max SPeeding rods use 5/16" ARP 2000 =
rod bolts, so they will not fit into a stock bore, you MUST overbore by =
+.030 or more. At least that's what I recall. Most of us will go for a =
max. overbore to be legal, +.040 but there's most likely some motors out =
there that are more than .040 over... the point being that the larger =
than stock big end dimensions will work with those over-overbores. One =
potential "gotcha" for the H-beam rods is the side clearance to the =
bottom of the piston bore on one side is almost zero, so you have to =
relieve the bottom of the piston bore for clearance. This is no big =
deal, but it must be done. This is one area where the Carillo and Pauter =
has an advantage... one less "step" in the build process.

=20

I will also say that I built a motor a few years ago with the =
MaxSpeeding Rods and had them checked out and found them to be as others =
reported, dimensions spot on, and balanced and equal weight within less =
than 1 gram across the set. Actually, 5 rods were the same weight and =
one was about .5 grams heavier. I also saw a small variance in the small =
end bush and had to lightly hone 1 of the rods to get the wrist pin to =
fit properly. Honestly, the finish of the parts was impressive. I'll =
probably use them again. The biggest reason: when I bought that set, it =
was less expensive for a entire set than it would be to recondition and =
balance a set of stock rods.

=20

I don't have enough hours on that engine to address longevity, but I =
will say that at the time I bought the set from Max SPeeding, several =
FOTs also reported on or off list that they had good experience with =
them. I have seen zero reports to the contrary.

=20

Based on that experience, other than potential questions about the =
material composition of the rods, e.g. 4130 steel, I wouldn't steer =
anyone away from using these parts. And right now, I'll take new metal =
over stuff that was made when the earth was still cooling... anytime.

=20

Regards,

Bob Lang

=20

On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:26:14 PM EST, John H. Hasty via Fot =

=20

=20

Gosh guys, with the almost unlimited selection of racing rods for Ford =
and Chevy v8 monster engines at reasonable prices, why are you paying =
and praying for stock  sized replicas?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 25, 2023, at 8:42 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <[email-masked] =

=EF=BB=BF=20

I=E2=80=99ve used the Pauter rods to good effect, too.  They have proven =
very durable for me!

Scott (B.)

=20

From: Fot <[email-masked] =
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question

=20

Walt,

=20

=20

=20

Brad Eells

Sent from my iPhone

=20

On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <[email-masked] =

=EF=BB=BF

Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks =
or should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the affordability?

Thanks,

Walter Hollowell

Albuquerque, New Mexico

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yes, I=E2=80=99ve had to do =
this on the early 6 blocks, for some reason the casting had changed in =
the later blocks, no clearance problem.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Charly Mitchel<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>TR6 =
#44<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Fot =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Erik Jacobsen via =
Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 26, 2023 5:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
John H. Hasty &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Robert Lang =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> fot =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Connecting rod =
question<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Bob,<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Yes, I =
also ran into the issue of the side of the MS rod hitting the bottom of =
the bore. Nothing like taking a grinder to a freshly honed block! As it =
turned out, I only needed to make about an 1/8&quot; chamfer on one =
side. Car has been running well for a couple of race weekends so far. =
Even survived Henry Morrison racing it at RA! Just kidding, Henry was a =
huge help with sorting and set up. I also have the MS roods in my Sprite =
1275 and in our TR3. Seem to be pretty bombproof, and the price point is =
hard to beat.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Hope to =
see you all at the Cup in July!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Jake<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyahoo_quoted_5073327280"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 07:24:26 AM CST, Robert Lang via Fot =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Hi - For TR6, the challenge is the bore being less than 3 inches. A =
lot of the aftermarket rod big ends won't fit down the bore. So, from =
this seat, the choices are limited. The Max SPeeding rods use 5/16&quot; =
ARP 2000 rod bolts, so they will not fit into a stock bore, you MUST =
overbore by +.030 or more. At least that's what I recall. Most of us =
will go for a max. overbore to be legal, +.040 but there's most likely =
some motors out there that are more than .040 over... the point being =
that the larger than stock big end dimensions will work with those =
over-overbores. One potential &quot;gotcha&quot; for the H-beam rods is =
the side clearance to the bottom of the piston bore on one side is =
almost zero, so you have to relieve the bottom of the piston bore for =
clearance. This is no big deal, but it must be done. This is one area =
where the Carillo and Pauter has an advantage... one less =
&quot;step&quot; in the build =
process.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I will also say that I built a motor a few years ago with the =
MaxSpeeding Rods and had them checked out and found them to be as others =
reported, dimensions spot on, and balanced and equal weight within less =
than 1 gram across the set. Actually, 5 rods were the same weight and =
one was about .5 grams heavier. I also saw a small variance in the small =
end bush and had to lightly hone 1 of the rods to get the wrist pin to =
fit properly. Honestly, the finish of the parts was impressive. I'll =
probably use them again. The biggest reason: when I bought that set, it =
was less expensive for a entire set than it would be to recondition and =
balance a set of stock rods.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I don't have enough hours on that engine to address longevity, but I =
will say that at the time I bought the set from Max SPeeding, several =
FOTs also reported on or off list that they had good experience with =
them. I have seen zero reports to the =
contrary.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Based on that experience, other than potential questions about the =
material composition of the rods, e.g. 4130 steel, I wouldn't steer =
anyone away from using these parts. And right now, I'll take new metal =
over stuff that was made when the earth was still cooling... =
anytime.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Bob Lang<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yahoo_quoted_5279506785"><div><d=
iv id=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324yqt50410><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:26:14 PM EST, John H. Hasty via =
Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Gosh guys, with the almost unlimited selection of racing rods for =
Ford and Chevy v8 monster engines at reasonable prices, why are you =
paying and praying for stock &nbsp;sized =
replicas?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297yqt97760><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Jan 25, 2023, at 8:42 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>=
=EF=BB=BF</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div =
id=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297yqt37746><div><div><=
p class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I=E2=80=99ve used the Pauter rods to good effect, too.&nbsp; They =
have proven very durable for me!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Scott (B.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><b><spa=
n =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brad Eells via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, =
January 25, 2023 1:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b> fot =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> Re: [Fot] Connecting rod =
question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Walt,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger =
rod bolt than Carillo.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod =
bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough for =
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a =
look.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Brad Eells<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>=
=EF=BB=BF</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding =
connecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am =
considering Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding =
rods. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the extra =
bucks or should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the =
affordability?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Walter Hollowell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
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