Subject: [Fot] overfilled TR4 sump

From: Tim Murphy via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 13:47:55 -0500

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I overfilled the TR4's sump by about a pint (1/4 inch on the dip stick). Is
this critical or can I just run it and burn off the excess at the track?
Thanks in advance for the advice.

Anyone else going to Blackhawk this weekend?

Tim Murphy

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I overfilled the TR4&#8217;s =
sump by about a pint (1/4 inch on the dip stick). Is this critical or =
can I just run it and burn off the excess at the track? Thanks in =
advance for the advice.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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From: Bob Bownes -Seiri via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:17:26 -0400

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Anyone putting an engine on a dyno anytime soon? There are plenty of camera o=
ptions that would settle the speculation=E2=80=A6

> On Jun 15, 2021, at 19:14, John H. Hasty via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
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> =EF=BB=BF This the reason for dry dumps
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
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>> =EF=BB=BF
>> I caught an episode of Engine Masters on the tube.  They had a big block C=
hevy engine where they tested a Miloden and a Moroso oil pan.  One of the pa=
ns was a cheap aftermarket with baffles. and the other a high tech job with a=
 2 part tank, extra width, engineering screens and the like. Neither had a c=
rank scraper. They were able to gain HP by dropping the oil level to 5.5 qua=
rts (no accusump). They played with the oil level to try and correct a drop i=
n oil pressure that occured near peak power.  Oil pressure dropped like a ro=
ck and they speculated it was foaming the oil. In the end the high tech pan v=
ersus the cheaper aftermarket pan added 27 HP if I remember correctly.=20
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>> Bob Kramer
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>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 2:48 PM David Gott via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>>> Hi Tim,
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>>> Not a problem at all; before installing an accusump, I would run mine 1/=
2 quart over to ensure constant pressure.  Autocrossing, I would notice pres=
sure drops (split second) in the corners on occasion if I did not do this.  =
 You are in good shape!!
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>>> Dave Gott
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>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 2:47 PM, Tim Murphy via Fot <[email-masked]=
et> wrote:
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>>> I overfilled the TR4=E2=80=99s sump by about a pint (1/4 inch on the dip=
 stick). Is this critical or can I just run it and burn off the excess at th=
e track? Thanks in advance for the advice.
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>Anyone putting an engine on a dyno anytime soon? There are plenty of camera=
 options that would settle the speculation=E2=80=A6</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 15, 2021, at 19:14, John H. Hasty via Fot=
 &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote typ=
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This the reason for dry dumps<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 15, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot &l=
t;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D"ltr">I caught an episode of Engine Masters on the tube.&nbsp; Th=
ey had a big block Chevy engine where&nbsp;they tested a Miloden and a Moros=
o oil pan.&nbsp; One of the pans was a cheap&nbsp;aftermarket with baffles. a=
nd the other a high tech job with a 2 part tank, extra
 width, engineering screens and the like. Neither had a crank&nbsp;scraper. T=
hey were able to gain HP by dropping the oil level to 5.5 quarts (no accusum=
p). They played with the oil level to try and correct a drop in oil pressure=
 that occured near peak power.&nbsp; Oil
 pressure&nbsp;dropped like a rock and they speculated it was foaming the&nb=
sp;oil. In the end the high tech pan versus the cheaper aftermarket pan adde=
d 27 HP if I remember correctly.&nbsp;
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 2:48 PM David G=
ott via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Tim,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Not a problem at all; before installing an accusump, I would run mine 1=
/2 quart over to ensure constant pressure.&nbsp; Autocrossing, I would notic=
e pressure drops (split second)&nbsp;in the corners on occasion if I did not=
 do this. &nbsp; You are in good shape!!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Dave Gott<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS" target=3D"_blank">Se=
nt from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br>
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<p style=3D"font-size:15px;color:rgb(113,95,250);padding-top:15px;margin-top=
:0px">On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 2:47 PM, Tim Murphy via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:</p>
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<p>I overfilled the TR4=E2=80=99s sump by about a pint (1/4 inch on the dip s=
tick). Is this critical or can I just run it and burn off the excess at the t=
rack? Thanks in advance for the advice.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyone else going to Blackhawk this weekend?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Tim Murphy</p>
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