Subject: Re: [Fot] Used / dated racing belts

From: Philip Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2021 06:34:15 -0400

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Are there rewebbing services in the US that will offer SFI or FIA certificat=
ion on re webbed belts? If so, who?=20
Thanks,
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 4, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFChip - in the past, I=E2=80=99ve done what you suggested.  This t=
ime around, Pyrotect seemed to have some staffing/logistics issues, so after=
 getting they got it wrong twice I just had them ship me new belts.
>=20
> John - having just had a conversation with my lawyer/litigator neighbor on=
 another subject, he mentioned the issue of seller liability.  I think I=E2=80=
=99ll heed your advice and just ditch these.  The odds of them fitting any o=
ther car are slim anyway.
>=20
> Scott=20
>=20
> On Jun 3, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Chip Collingwood <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>=20
> Scott,
>=20
> I usually just got my belts re-webbed unless I was for some reason changin=
g the latching. More reasonable than buying a new set. I believe most re-web=
 services get you new eyelets as well, so all new except for latch.
>=20
> Chip
>=20
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 6:06 PM John H. Hasty via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>> Maybe I=E2=80=99m just paranoid from 51 years of defending law suits, but=
 I would be very cautious about giving/selling outdated safety equipment.
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>> > On Jun 3, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>> >=20
>> > =EF=BB=BFI can=E2=80=99t remember- is there a good way to pass on outda=
ted racing harness? I=E2=80=99ve got two five point cam lock.
>> >=20
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Are there rewebbing services in the US that=
 will offer SFI or FIA certification on re webbed belts? If so, who?&nbsp;<d=
iv>Thanks,</div><div>Phil<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 4, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Sc=
ott Janzen via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></d=
iv><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"C=
ontent-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Chip - in the past, I=E2=
=80=99ve done what you suggested. &nbsp;This time around, Pyrotect seemed to=
 have some staffing/logistics issues, so after getting they got it wrong twi=
ce I just had them ship me new belts.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><d=
iv class=3D"">John - having just had a conversation with my lawyer/litigator=
 neighbor on another subject, he mentioned the issue of seller liability. &n=
bsp;I think I=E2=80=99ll heed your advice and just ditch these. &nbsp;The od=
ds of them fitting any other car are slim anyway.</div><div class=3D""><br c=
lass=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Scott&nbsp;<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D"=
"><div class=3D"">On Jun 3, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Chip Collingwood &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div=
 dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Scott,<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I usually just got my belts re-webbed unle=
ss I was for some&nbsp;reason changing the latching. More reasonable than bu=
ying a new set. I believe most re-web services get you new eyelets as well, s=
o all new except for latch.</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""=
></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Chip</div></div><br class=3D""><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 3, 2021,=
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Phil, my experience is that you need to go back to the company who made =
your belts to see if they do it.  It is about half the price of SFI new =
belts.  Seems unlikely to me that any non-manufacturer would do it, as =
they are also certifying the old hardware.

On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:34 AM, Philip Gott <[email-masked]> wrote:

Are there rewebbing services in the US that will offer SFI or FIA =
certification on re webbed belts? If so, who?=20
Thanks,
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 4, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFChip - in the past, I=E2=80=99ve done what you suggested.  =
This time around, Pyrotect seemed to have some staffing/logistics =
issues, so after getting they got it wrong twice I just had them ship me =
new belts.
>=20
> John - having just had a conversation with my lawyer/litigator =
neighbor on another subject, he mentioned the issue of seller liability. =
 I think I=E2=80=99ll heed your advice and just ditch these.  The odds =
of them fitting any other car are slim anyway.
>=20
> Scott=20
>=20
> On Jun 3, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Chip Collingwood =
>=20
> Scott,
>=20
> I usually just got my belts re-webbed unless I was for some reason =
changing the latching. More reasonable than buying a new set. I believe =
most re-web services get you new eyelets as well, so all new except for =
latch.
>=20
> Chip
>=20
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 6:06 PM John H. Hasty via Fot <[email-masked] =
> Maybe I=E2=80=99m just paranoid from 51 years of defending law suits, =
but I would be very cautious about giving/selling outdated safety =
equipment.
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> > On Jun 3, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked] =
> >=20
> > =EF=BB=BFI can=E2=80=99t remember- is there a good way to pass on =
outdated racing harness? I=E2=80=99ve got two five point cam lock.
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Phil,=
 my experience is that you need to go back to the company who made your =
belts to see if they do it. &nbsp;It is about half the price of SFI new =
belts. &nbsp;Seems unlikely to me that any non-manufacturer would do it, =
as they are also certifying the old hardware.<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:34 AM, Philip Gott =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Are there rewebbing services in =
the US that will offer SFI or FIA certification on re webbed belts? If =
so, who?&nbsp;<div class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Phil<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Sent from my =
iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Jun 4, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Scott Janzen via =
Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
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dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" =
content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">Chip - in the past, =
I=E2=80=99ve done what you suggested. &nbsp;This time around, Pyrotect =
seemed to have some staffing/logistics issues, so after getting they got =
it wrong twice I just had them ship me new belts.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">John - having just had a conversation =
with my lawyer/litigator neighbor on another subject, he mentioned the =
issue of seller liability. &nbsp;I think I=E2=80=99ll heed your advice =
and just ditch these. &nbsp;The odds of them fitting any other car are =
slim anyway.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Scott&nbsp;<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 3, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Chip Collingwood &lt;<a =
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Scott,<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I usually just got my belts re-webbed unless I =
was for some&nbsp;reason changing the latching. More reasonable than =
buying a new set. I believe most re-web services get you new eyelets as =
well, so all new except for latch.</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Chip</div></div><br =
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class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 6:06 PM John H. Hasty via Fot =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Maybe I=E2=80=99m just =
paranoid from 51 years of defending law suits, but I would be very =
cautious about giving/selling outdated safety equipment.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Sent from my iPhone<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
&gt; On Jun 3, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a =
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&gt; =EF=BB=BFI can=E2=80=99t remember- is there a good way to pass on =
outdated racing harness? I=E2=80=99ve got two five point cam lock.<br =
class=3D"">
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