Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets

From: Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 18:00:54 -0500

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Joe:
We fill the gap completely with the anaerobic sealant. After cleaning all su=
rfaces well I use the tapered nozzle they supply, cut it to fit into the tra=
pezoid and then put a washer over the end to seal it up. Then I use one of t=
hose toothpaste tube keys to squeeze the tube, forcing the sealant gel into t=
he trapezoid. Keep squeezing until I see the gel come out of the chamfered a=
rea at the base of the rear main cap. That way I know the trapezoidal volume=
 is full.

It would probably be easier to buy a cartridge and put it in with a caulking=
 gun, but that=E2=80=99s kinda pricey (~$50).

One regular size tube will do two engines. They get very hard to squeeze, ev=
en with the key, when they get near the end.

Because it is anaerobic, the gel won=E2=80=99t set up near the oil pan surfa=
ce if you leave it exposed to air. Covering it with a piece of tape works we=
ll. You can then peel the tape off when you put the oil pan on. Or install t=
he pan immediately. I have laid some =E2=80=9CUltra=E2=80=9D black rtv right=
 on top of the uncured aerobic gel, then put on the oil pan (with or without=
 gasket as you prefer) and had it all set up just fine.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Joe Boruch <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Phil, how are you using the Anearobic sealant? Are you still using felt, o=
r are you filling the gap where the felt would be with the Anearobic sealant=
?   JoeB.
>=20
>> On Monday, February 8, 2021, 04:28:25 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> Joe;
>> We=E2=80=99ve used the two of them together in two different engines. The=
 Permatex was washed away from the rear main seal cap sides in both cases.
>> In fairness, in that application it takes a very long time to dry, and so=
 it may have not set completely before we ran the engine. But we never had t=
hat issue until using the Driven synthetic oil. Which, BTW, seems to be real=
ly good stuff!  Thanks to Ken Knight for  the recommendation.
>> We=E2=80=99ve switched to Permatex Anaerobic sealant and it works very we=
ll. Much easier than soaked felt....
>> Phil Gott
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>>> On Feb 8, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Joe Boruch <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> Thanks David.  Driven says that their oils should not cause your issue, b=
ut they think you may have an issue with fuel dilution.  They did suggest no=
t to use the Aviation Permatex, since it can be affected by aromatic solvent=
s (which is what gasoline is).  I looked at the instructions for Permatex In=
dian Head gasket shellac and it does not say that it is affected by aromatic=
 solvents.  The instructions for Aviation Permatex say that is affected by a=
romatic solvents.  Looks like for my next build that I will go back to using=
 Indian Head (if it has not been deemed to be un PC by then). =20
>>=20
>> Thanks for bringing this issue to light.  Joe B.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Monday, February 8, 2021, 02:57:29 PM EST, David Gott <triumphsix@yaho=
o.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> Hi Joe,
>>=20
>> Here=E2=80=99s some pictures of the felts in my engine after being washed=
 clean by Driven XP3.  You can see the cement is washed out of the felts upo=
n removal, and also the permatex parted along the seam of the block/cap.   N=
ever happened before running the oil.  Hondabond held up just fine afterward=
s.
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Joe:<div>We fill the gap completely with th=
e anaerobic sealant. After cleaning all surfaces well I use the tapered nozz=
le they supply, cut it to fit into the trapezoid and then put a washer over t=
he end to seal it up. Then I use one of those toothpaste tube keys to squeez=
e the tube, forcing the sealant gel into the trapezoid. Keep squeezing until=
 I see the gel come out of the chamfered area at the base of the rear main c=
ap. That way I know the trapezoidal volume is full.</div><div><br></div><div=
>It would probably be easier to buy a cartridge and put it in with a caulkin=
g gun, but that=E2=80=99s kinda pricey (~$50).</div><div><br></div><div>One r=
egular size tube will do two engines. They get very hard to squeeze, even wi=
th the key, when they get near the end.</div><div><br></div><div>Because it i=
s anaerobic, the gel won=E2=80=99t set up near the oil pan surface if you le=
ave it exposed to air. Covering it with a piece of tape works well. You can t=
hen peel the tape off when you put the oil pan on. Or install the pan immedi=
ately. I have laid some =E2=80=9CUltra=E2=80=9D black rtv right on top of th=
e uncured aerobic gel, then put on the oil pan (with or without gasket as yo=
u prefer) and had it all set up just fine.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope thi=
s helps.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Phil</div><div><br></di=
v><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 8, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Joe Boruch &lt;jaboruch@=
yahoo.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydp957333a7yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"f=
ont-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">=
<div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Phil, how are you using the A=
nearobic sealant? Are you still using felt, or are you filling the gap where=
 the felt would be with the Anearobic sealant?&nbsp; &nbsp;JoeB.</div><div><=
br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydp6edb2764yahoo_quoted_3109615661" class=3D"ydp6ed=
b2764yahoo_quoted">
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ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                    On Monday, February 8, 2021, 04:28:25 PM EST, Phil Gott v=
ia Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp6edb2764yiv6266475226"><div>Joe;<div>We=E2=
=80=99ve used the two of them together in two different engines. The Permate=
x was washed away from the rear main seal cap sides in both cases.<div>In fa=
irness, in that application it takes a very long time to dry, and so it may h=
ave not set completely before we ran the engine. But we never had that issue=
 until using the Driven synthetic oil. Which, BTW, seems to be really good s=
tuff! &nbsp;Thanks to Ken Knight for &nbsp;the recommendation.</div><div>We=E2=
=80=99ve switched to Permatex Anaerobic sealant and it works very well. Much=
 easier than soaked felt....</div><div>Phil Gott<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div cl=
ass=3D"ydp6edb2764yiv6266475226yqt4161954403" id=3D"ydp6edb2764yiv6266475226=
yqtfd09427"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 8, 2021, at 4=
:20 PM, Joe Boruch &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br c=
lear=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"ydp6edb2764yiv626647522=
6yqt4161954403" id=3D"ydp6edb2764yiv6266475226yqtfd79268"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydp6edb2764yiv6266475226ydp8a=
c71bcbyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Aria=
l, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks David.&nbsp; Driven says that their oils sho=
uld not cause your issue, but they think you may have an issue with fuel dil=
ution.&nbsp; They did suggest not to use the Aviation Permatex, since it can=
 be affected by <span><span style=3D"color:rgb(38, 40, 42);font-family:Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">aromatic solvents (which is what g=
asoline is)</span></span>.&nbsp; I looked at the instructions for Permatex I=
ndian Head gasket shellac and it does not say that it is affected by aromati=
c solvents.&nbsp; The instructions for Aviation Permatex say that is affecte=
d by aromatic solvents.&nbsp; Looks like for my next build that I will go ba=
ck to using Indian Head (if it has not been deemed to be un PC by then).&nbs=
p;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Tha=
nks for bringing this issue to light.&nbsp; Joe B.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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                    On Monday, February 8, 2021, 02:57:29 PM EST, David Gott=
 &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp6edb2764yiv6266475226ydp1c628845yiv930954=
1554"><div>
Hi Joe,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Here=E2=80=99s some pictures of th=
e felts in my engine after being washed clean by Driven XP3. &nbsp;You can s=
ee the cement is washed out of the felts upon removal, and also the permatex=
 parted along the seam of the block/cap. &nbsp; Never happened before runnin=
g the oil. &nbsp;Hondabond held up just fine afterwards.</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div><div class=3D"ydp6edb2764yiv6266475226ydp1c628845yiv930=
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From: Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 07:14:05 -0600

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Phil

That anaerobic gasket maker may work but I think it is risky. I doubt it
will ever dry out, with the outer layer setting up and sealing the inner
layers. Maybe engine heat wil help. One man's opinion and we all know that
everyone got one........

If I was going to try something I'd be tempted to use the Hylomar 101.  It
is ivory in color and is a room temperature vulcanising (RTV) silicone
compound. They advertise that *Hylosil 101 has good resistance to oils and
aqueous anti-freeze agents. Unlike general-purpose silicone*
*sealants, Hylosil 101 contains no solvents and does not give off acetic
acid during cure.*

I used to use it to fill the gaps in the transmission mount, for better
vibration resistance and to hold it together when it inevitably split.  Now
we have the ARE trans mount.

This stuff is most easily acquired from a John Deere Dealership.

Bob Kramer

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:16 PM Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

> Joe:
> We fill the gap completely with the anaerobic sealant. After cleaning all
> surfaces well I use the tapered nozzle they supply, cut it to fit into th=
e
> trapezoid and then put a washer over the end to seal it up. Then I use on=
e
> of those toothpaste tube keys to squeeze the tube, forcing the sealant ge=
l
> into the trapezoid. Keep squeezing until I see the gel come out of the
> chamfered area at the base of the rear main cap. That way I know the
> trapezoidal volume is full.
>
> It would probably be easier to buy a cartridge and put it in with a
> caulking gun, but that=E2=80=99s kinda pricey (~$50).
>
> One regular size tube will do two engines. They get very hard to squeeze,
> even with the key, when they get near the end.
>
> Because it is anaerobic, the gel won=E2=80=99t set up near the oil pan su=
rface if
> you leave it exposed to air. Covering it with a piece of tape works well.
> You can then peel the tape off when you put the oil pan on. Or install th=
e
> pan immediately. I have laid some =E2=80=9CUltra=E2=80=9D black rtv right=
 on top of the
> uncured aerobic gel, then put on the oil pan (with or without gasket as y=
ou
> prefer) and had it all set up just fine.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
> Phil
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Phil, how are you using the Anearobic sealant? Are you still using felt,
> or are you filling the gap where the felt would be with the Anearobic
> sealant?   JoeB.
>
> On Monday, February 8, 2021, 04:28:25 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Joe;
 Permatex
> was washed away from the rear main seal cap sides in both cases.
> In fairness, in that application it takes a very long time to dry, and so
> it may have not set completely before we ran the engine. But we never had
> that issue until using the Driven synthetic oil. Which, BTW, seems to be
> really good stuff!  Thanks to Ken Knight for  the recommendation.
ll. Much
> easier than soaked felt....
> Phil Gott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Thanks David.  Driven says that their oils should not cause your issue,
> but they think you may have an issue with fuel dilution.  They did sugges=
t
> not to use the Aviation Permatex, since it can be affected by aromatic
> solvents (which is what gasoline is).  I looked at the instructions for
> Permatex Indian Head gasket shellac and it does not say that it is affect=
ed
> by aromatic solvents.  The instructions for Aviation Permatex say that is
> affected by aromatic solvents.  Looks like for my next build that I will =
go
> back to using Indian Head (if it has not been deemed to be un PC by then)=
.
> On Monday, February 8, 2021, 02:57:29 PM EST, David Gott <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Joe,
>
 clean by
> Driven XP3.  You can see the cement is washed out of the felts upon
> removal, and also the permatex parted along the seam of the block/cap.
> Never happened before running the oil.  Hondabond held up just fine
> afterwards.
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Phil</div><div><br></div><div>That anaerobic gasket m=
aker may work but I think=C2=A0it is risky. I doubt it will ever dry out, w=
ith the outer layer setting up and sealing the inner layers.=20

Maybe engine heat wil help.

One man&#39;s opinion and we all know that everyone got one........</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>If I was going to try something I&#39;d be tempted to use=
 the Hylomar 101.=C2=A0 It is ivory in color and is a room temperature vulc=
anising (RTV) silicone compound. They advertise that <i>Hylosil 101 has goo=
d resistance to oils and aqueous=C2=A0anti-freeze agents. Unlike general-pu=
rpose silicone</i></div><i>sealants, Hylosil 101 contains no solvents and d=
oes=C2=A0not give off acetic acid during cure.</i><div><i><br></i></div><di=
v>I used to use it to fill the gaps in the transmission mount, for better v=
ibration resistance and to hold it together when it inevitably split.=C2=A0=
 Now we have the ARE trans mount.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>This stuff=
 is most easily acquired=C2=A0from a John Deere Dealership.<br><div><br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div><br><img src=3D"cid:ii_kky0cuqv0" alt=3D"image.png" =
width=3D"308" height=3D"490"><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-smartmail=
=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:16 PM Phil Gott via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Joe:=
<div>We fill the gap completely with the anaerobic sealant. After cleaning =
all surfaces well I use the tapered nozzle they supply, cut it to fit into =
the trapezoid and then put a washer over the end to seal it up. Then I use =
one of those toothpaste tube keys to squeeze the tube, forcing the sealant =
gel into the trapezoid. Keep squeezing until I see the gel come out of the =
chamfered area at the base of the rear main cap. That way I know the trapez=
oidal volume is full.</div><div><br></div><div>It would probably be easier =
to buy a cartridge and put it in with a caulking gun, but that=E2=80=99s ki=
nda pricey (~$50).</div><div><br></div><div>One regular size tube will do t=
wo engines. They get very hard to squeeze, even with the key, when they get=
 near the end.</div><div><br></div><div>Because it is anaerobic, the gel wo=
n=E2=80=99t set up near the oil pan surface if you leave it exposed to air.=
 Covering it with a piece of tape works well. You can then peel the tape of=
f when you put the oil pan on. Or install the pan immediately. I have laid =
some =E2=80=9CUltra=E2=80=9D black rtv right on top of the uncured aerobic =
gel, then put on the oil pan (with or without gasket as you prefer) and had=
 it all set up just fine.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Phil</div><div><br></div><div><br><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite">On Feb 8, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Joe Boruch &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jabo=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>=
</blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif=
;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Phil, how are you using the Anearobic sealant? Are=
 you still using felt, or are you filling the gap where the felt would be w=
ith the Anearobic sealant?=C2=A0 =C2=A0JoeB.</div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_3167281562972523742gmail-m_-47894751452384=
06134ydp6edb2764yahoo_quoted_3109615661">
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Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                    On Monday, February 8, 2021, 04:28:25 PM EST, Phil Gott=
 via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_3167281562972523742gmail-m_-4789475=
145238406134ydp6edb2764yiv6266475226"><div>Joe;<div>We=E2=80=99ve used the =
two of them together in two different engines. The Permatex was washed away=
 from the rear main seal cap sides in both cases.<div>In fairness, in that =
application it takes a very long time to dry, and so it may have not set co=
mpletely before we ran the engine. But we never had that issue until using =
the Driven synthetic oil. Which, BTW, seems to be really good stuff!=C2=A0 =
Thanks to Ken Knight for =C2=A0the recommendation.</div><div>We=E2=80=99ve =
switched to Permatex Anaerobic sealant and it works very well. Much easier =
than soaked felt....</div><div>Phil Gott<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"non=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"gm=
ail-m_3167281562972523742gmail-m_-4789475145238406134ydp6edb2764yiv62664752=
26yqtfd09427"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 8, 2021, =
at 4:20 PM, Joe Boruch &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_3167281562972523742gmail-m_=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks David.=C2=A0 Driven says that their oils sh=
ould not cause your issue, but they think you may have an issue with fuel d=
ilution.=C2=A0 They did suggest not to use the Aviation Permatex, since it =
can be affected by <span><span style=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);font-family:&qu=
ot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">aromatic solvents (whic=
h is what gasoline is)</span></span>.=C2=A0 I looked at the instructions fo=
r Permatex Indian Head gasket shellac and it does not say that it is affect=
ed by aromatic solvents.=C2=A0 The instructions for Aviation Permatex say t=
hat is affected by aromatic solvents.=C2=A0 Looks like for my next build th=
at I will go back to using Indian Head (if it has not been deemed to be un =
PC by then).=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for bringing this issue to light.=C2=A0 Joe B.</div><d=
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                    On Monday, February 8, 2021, 02:57:29 PM EST, David Got=
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Hi Joe,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Here=E2=80=99s some pictures of t=
he felts in my engine after being washed clean by Driven XP3.=C2=A0 You can=
 see the cement is washed out of the felts upon removal, and also the perma=
tex parted along the seam of the block/cap. =C2=A0 Never happened before ru=
nning the oil.=C2=A0 Hondabond held up just fine afterwards.</div><div><br =
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