Subject: [Fot] Cam Bearings - TR-2 to 4A

From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 15:18:21 +0000 (UTC)

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I worked for a large diesel engine manufacturer and Vandervell was a major =
bearing supplier to us.=C2=A0 I was working on a new product introduction t=
eam and one day the Vandervell rep was in visiting our purchasing manager.=
=C2=A0 The purchasing manager introduced me to the rep, and during the cour=
se of our discussion I shared with him the fact that I was racing a TR-4 at=
 the time.=C2=A0 I had recently experienced problems getting Vandervell cam=
 bearings and asked him about the status of bearing supply for the TR engin=
e.=C2=A0 He said he would look into it.
A few weeks later, our purchasing manager walked into my office with a big =
box and said, "this is for you".=C2=A0 He told me that the Vandervell rep h=
ad gone back to the UK and had one of his materials managers gather all of =
the TR-2/4 cam bearings from all of their major warehouses in the UK, and s=
ent them to me.=C2=A0 There were over 100 bearings.=C2=A0 Since they were a=
ll the wide bearings, I had about a third of them cut down to the width of =
the narrow bearing.=C2=A0 To make sure the oil holes lined up with the hole=
s in the block, the machine shop had to cut an equal amount off each side o=
f the bearing to get the appropriate width.

Where is all this going?=C2=A0 Well, I changed the cam bearings (because I =
had them) every time I rebuilt an engine, which was about every 4 races.=C2=
=A0 For whatever reason, I kept a number of the used bearings with 4 race w=
eekends on them (or less).=C2=A0 I have a total of 17 wide bearings, plus o=
ne new wide AE bearing, and 9 narrow bearings, or about 9 sets.=C2=A0 I don=
't know if anyone is interested in running used bearings in your race engin=
es, but if you are, I am offering them to anyone on the list for the price =
of the shipping cost.=C2=A0 The wear in these bearings is visible (see pict=
ures), but barely perceptible when you run your finger over the areas of we=
ar.=C2=A0 About what you would expect after 3 or 4 pace weekends.

What is the benefit of Vandervell cam bearings?=C2=A0 The AE or all the oth=
er bearings that are on the market today (to my knowledge) have a straight =
split in the bearing, which can result in the ends of the bearing becoming =
misaligned.=C2=A0 The Vandervell bearing has a design that looks like a jig=
saw puzzle piece, where the ends of the bearing are clenched together, prev=
enting misalignment.=C2=A0 In the third picture attached I tried to get a g=
ood shot of this feature.
If anyone is interested in one or more sets of these bearings, let me know =
how many you want.=C2=A0 Thanks.
Jack

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ly:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I worked for a large diesel engine manufactu=
rer and Vandervell was a major bearing supplier to us.&nbsp; I was working =
on a new product introduction team and one day the Vandervell rep was in vi=
siting our purchasing manager.&nbsp; The purchasing manager introduced me t=
o the rep, and during the course of our discussion I shared with him the fa=
ct that I was racing a TR-4 at the time.&nbsp; I had recently experienced p=
roblems getting Vandervell cam bearings and asked him about the status of b=
earing supply for the TR engine.&nbsp; He said he would look into it.</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false">A few weeks later, our purchasing manager walked into my offic=
e with a big box and said, "this is for you".&nbsp; He told me that the Van=
dervell rep had gone back to the UK and had one of his materials managers g=
ather all of the TR-2/4 cam bearings from all of their major warehouses in =
the UK, and sent them to me.&nbsp; There were over 100 bearings.&nbsp; Sinc=
e they were all the wide bearings, I had about a third of them cut down to =
the width of the narrow bearing.&nbsp; To make sure the oil holes lined up =
with the holes in the block, the machine shop had to cut an equal amount of=
f each side of the bearing to get the appropriate width.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">Where is all this going?&nbsp; Well, I changed the cam bearings (becau=
se I had them) every time I rebuilt an engine, which was about every 4 race=
s.&nbsp; For whatever reason, I kept a number of the used bearings with 4 r=
ace weekends on them (or less).&nbsp; I have a total of 17 wide bearings, p=
lus one new wide AE bearing, and 9 narrow bearings, or about 9 sets.&nbsp; =
I don't know if anyone is interested in running used bearings in your race =
engines, but if you are, I am offering them to anyone on the list for the p=
rice of the shipping cost.&nbsp; The wear in these bearings is visible (see=
 pictures), but barely perceptible when you run your finger over the areas =
of wear.&nbsp; About what you would expect after 3 or 4 pace weekends.<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=
-setdir=3D"false">What is the benefit of Vandervell cam bearings?&nbsp; The=
 AE or all the other bearings that are on the market today (to my knowledge=
) have a straight split in the bearing, which can result in the ends of the=
 bearing becoming misaligned.&nbsp; The Vandervell bearing has a design tha=
t looks like a jigsaw puzzle piece, where the ends of the bearing are clenc=
hed together, preventing misalignment.&nbsp; In the third picture attached =
I tried to get a good shot of this feature.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">If anyone is =
interested in one or more sets of these bearings, let me know how many you =
want.&nbsp; Thanks.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jack<br></div></div></body></html>
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From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 16:49:08 +0000 (UTC)

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 I've never seen any cam bearings that were solid rings.=C2=A0 The Vanderve=
ll bearings may look like a complete ring, unless you look real closely and=
 see the clench design.=C2=A0 I always installed my own cam bearings.=C2=A0=
 I made my own tool years ago.=C2=A0 When installing non-Vandervell bearing=
s, with a straight cut, I used to put a hose clamp around the bearing befor=
e I started driving it into the block.=C2=A0 This kept the ends of the bear=
ing aligned.=C2=A0 As I drove the bearing into the block, it pushed out of =
the hose clamp.=C2=A0 Obviously, before driving the bearing in, you needed =
to make sure the bearing was properly aligned and the oil holes and the sec=
uring bolt holes were properly lined up with the block.=C2=A0 Not a difficu=
lt job if you have the right tools (driver, hose clamp and a flashlight), a=
nd have done it a few times.

You can run into a problem if the holes in the bearing are not properly lin=
ed up with the holes where the cam bearing securing bolts screw into the bl=
ock.=C2=A0 When you screw the securing bolts in, they may catch part of the=
 bearing, pushing it in.=C2=A0 If this happens, the cam won't go in and if =
you force it you may score the cam.=C2=A0 If this happens, you should get a=
 new bearing, and start over.=C2=A0 I speak from experience!
Jack

    On Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 10:46:43 AM EST, J.C. Hassall <jhassall@g=
mail.com> wrote: =20
=20
 Hey Jack,What a great story!=C2=A0=C2=A0IFF I recall correctly, when I reb=
uilt my TR4 last time, the cam bearings were complete rings.=C2=A0 The mach=
ine shop had a rough time aligning the bearing holes with the oiler holes i=
n the block.=C2=A0=C2=A0
I'm just curious.
tnx--
jim=C2=A0 W4BEA
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:20 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

l.com

--=20
jim=C2=A0 W4BEA
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are wil=
ling to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson

I sometimes feel bad for the smart people - being simple-minded and easily =
entertained is totally the way to go! ;-)J. Stoll
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I've never seen any cam bear=
ings that were solid rings.&nbsp; The Vandervell bearings may look like a c=
omplete ring, unless you look real closely and see the clench design.&nbsp;=
 I always installed my own cam bearings.&nbsp; I made my own tool years ago=
.&nbsp; When installing non-Vandervell bearings, with a straight cut, I use=
d to put a hose clamp around the bearing before I started driving it into t=
he block.&nbsp; This kept the ends of the bearing aligned.&nbsp; As I drove=
 the bearing into the block, it pushed out of the hose clamp.&nbsp; Obvious=
ly, before driving the bearing in, you needed to make sure the bearing was =
properly aligned and the oil holes and the securing bolt holes were properl=
y lined up with the block.&nbsp; Not a difficult job if you have the right =
tools (driver, hose clamp and a flashlight), and have done it a few times.<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">You can run into a problem if the holes in the bearin=
g are not properly lined up with the holes where the cam bearing securing b=
olts screw into the block.&nbsp; When you screw the securing bolts in, they=
 may catch part of the bearing, pushing it in.&nbsp; If this happens, the c=
am won't go in and if you force it you may score the cam.&nbsp; If this hap=
pens, you should get a new bearing, and start over.&nbsp; I speak from expe=
rience!</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jack<br></div><div><br></div>
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sall &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Hey Jack,<div>What a great story!&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div>IFF I recall c=
orrectly, when I rebuilt my TR4 last time, the cam bearings were complete r=
ings.&nbsp; The machine shop had a rough time aligning the bearing holes wi=
th the oiler holes in the block.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div>I'm just curious.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>tnx</di=
v><div>--<br clear=3D"none"></div><div>jim&nbsp; W4BEA</div></div><br clear=
=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591gmail_quote"><div class=3D"=
ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591yqt7583245858" id=3D"ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591yqt512=
28"><div class=3D"ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, F=
eb 9, 2021 at 10:20 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"ydp9853ccf=
cyiv0924720591gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style=3D"font-family:=
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">I worked for=
 a large diesel engine manufacturer and Vandervell was a major bearing supp=
lier to us.&nbsp; I was working on a new product introduction team and one =
day the Vandervell rep was in visiting our purchasing manager.&nbsp; The pu=
rchasing manager introduced me to the rep, and during the course of our dis=
cussion I shared with him the fact that I was racing a TR-4 at the time.&nb=
sp; I had recently experienced problems getting Vandervell cam bearings and=
 asked him about the status of bearing supply for the TR engine.&nbsp; He s=
aid he would look into it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">A few weeks later, our purchasing manager walked into my of=
fice with a big box and said, "this is for you".&nbsp; He told me that the =
Vandervell rep had gone back to the UK and had one of his materials manager=
s gather all of the TR-2/4 cam bearings from all of their major warehouses =
in the UK, and sent them to me.&nbsp; There were over 100 bearings.&nbsp; S=
ince they were all the wide bearings, I had about a third of them cut down =
to the width of the narrow bearing.&nbsp; To make sure the oil holes lined =
up with the holes in the block, the machine shop had to cut an equal amount=
 off each side of the bearing to get the appropriate width.<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Where i=
s all this going?&nbsp; Well, I changed the cam bearings (because I had the=
m) every time I rebuilt an engine, which was about every 4 races.&nbsp; For=
 whatever reason, I kept a number of the used bearings with 4 race weekends=
 on them (or less).&nbsp; I have a total of 17 wide bearings, plus one new =
wide AE bearing, and 9 narrow bearings, or about 9 sets.&nbsp; I don't know=
 if anyone is interested in running used bearings in your race engines, but=
 if you are, I am offering them to anyone on the list for the price of the =
shipping cost.&nbsp; The wear in these bearings is visible (see pictures), =
but barely perceptible when you run your finger over the areas of wear.&nbs=
p; About what you would expect after 3 or 4 pace weekends.<br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">What is =
the benefit of Vandervell cam bearings?&nbsp; The AE or all the other beari=
ngs that are on the market today (to my knowledge) have a straight split in=
 the bearing, which can result in the ends of the bearing becoming misalign=
ed.&nbsp; The Vandervell bearing has a design that looks like a jigsaw puzz=
le piece, where the ends of the bearing are clenched together, preventing m=
isalignment.&nbsp; In the third picture attached I tried to get a good shot=
 of this feature.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">If anyone is interested in one or more sets of these bearings, let=
 me know how many you want.&nbsp; Thanks.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div>_=
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From: "van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 20:33:37 +0100 (CET)

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Jack, what kind of driver do you use? 
I use a threaded rod and pull the bearings in. To keep the bearings straight, I had a cylinder of some 1" long, made on a lathe, with the outer diameter a bit smaller than the outer diameter of the bearing. Over a lenght of some 3mm the diameter of this cylinder is a bit smaller, the same as the inner diameter of the bearings, in order to slide it into the bearing, keeping the bearing straight. When the bearing was not aligned completely right, I bodged it sometimes by making the end of the securing bolt a little smaller :-). 
This driving tool is working great, but the core plug at the rear of the engine block has to be removed. 
Marcel 

Van: "fot" <[email-masked]> 
Aan: "J.C. Hassall" <[email-masked]> 
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Verzonden: Dinsdag 9 februari 2021 17:49:08 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Cam Bearings - TR-2 to 4A 

I've never seen any cam bearings that were solid rings. The Vandervell bearings may look like a complete ring, unless you look real closely and see the clench design. I always installed my own cam bearings. I made my own tool years ago. When installing non-Vandervell bearings, with a straight cut, I used to put a hose clamp around the bearing before I started driving it into the block. This kept the ends of the bearing aligned. As I drove the bearing into the block, it pushed out of the hose clamp. Obviously, before driving the bearing in, you needed to make sure the bearing was properly aligned and the oil holes and the securing bolt holes were properly lined up with the block. Not a difficult job if you have the right tools (driver, hose clamp and a flashlight), and have done it a few times. 

You can run into a problem if the holes in the bearing are not properly lined up with the holes where the cam bearing securing bolts screw into the block. When you screw the securing bolts in, they may catch part of the bearing, pushing it in. If this happens, the cam won't go in and if you force it you may score the cam. If this happens, you should get a new bearing, and start over. I speak from experience! 

Jack 

On Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 10:46:43 AM EST, J.C. Hassall <[email-masked]> wrote: 

Hey Jack, 
What a great story! 
IFF I recall correctly, when I rebuilt my TR4 last time, the cam bearings were complete rings. The machine shop had a rough time aligning the bearing holes with the oiler holes in the block. 

I'm just curious. 

tnx 
-- 
jim W4BEA 

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:20 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot < [ mailto:[email-masked] | [email-masked] ] > wrote: 

I worked for a large diesel engine manufacturer and Vandervell was a major bearing supplier to us. I was working on a new product introduction team and one day the Vandervell rep was in visiting our purchasing manager. The purchasing manager introduced me to the rep, and during the course of our discussion I shared with him the fact that I was racing a TR-4 at the time. I had recently experienced problems getting Vandervell cam bearings and asked him about the status of bearing supply for the TR engine. He said he would look into it. 

A few weeks later, our purchasing manager walked into my office with a big box and said, "this is for you". He told me that the Vandervell rep had gone back to the UK and had one of his materials managers gather all of the TR-2/4 cam bearings from all of their major warehouses in the UK, and sent them to me. There were over 100 bearings. Since they were all the wide bearings, I had about a third of them cut down to the width of the narrow bearing. To make sure the oil holes lined up with the holes in the block, the machine shop had to cut an equal amount off each side of the bearing to get the appropriate width. 

Where is all this going? Well, I changed the cam bearings (because I had them) every time I rebuilt an engine, which was about every 4 races. For whatever reason, I kept a number of the used bearings with 4 race weekends on them (or less). I have a total of 17 wide bearings, plus one new wide AE bearing, and 9 narrow bearings, or about 9 sets. I don't know if anyone is interested in running used bearings in your race engines, but if you are, I am offering them to anyone on the list for the price of the shipping cost. The wear in these bearings is visible (see pictures), but barely perceptible when you run your finger over the areas of wear. About what you would expect after 3 or 4 pace weekends. 

What is the benefit of Vandervell cam bearings? The AE or all the other bearings that are on the market today (to my knowledge) have a straight split in the bearing, which can result in the ends of the bearing becoming misaligned. The Vandervell bearing has a design that looks like a jigsaw puzzle piece, where the ends of the bearing are clenched together, preventing misalignment. In the third picture attached I tried to get a good shot of this feature. 

If anyone is interested in one or more sets of these bearings, let me know how many you want. Thanks. 

Jack 
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>Jack, what kind of driver do you u=
se?&nbsp;</div><div>I use a threaded rod and pull the bearings in. To keep =
the bearings straight, I had a cylinder of some 1" long, made on a lathe, w=
ith the outer diameter a bit smaller than the outer diameter of the bearing=
. Over a lenght of some 3mm the diameter of this cylinder is a bit smaller,=
 the same as the inner diameter of the bearings, in order to slide it into =
the bearing, keeping the bearing straight. When the bearing was not&nbsp; a=
ligned completely right, I bodged it sometimes by making the end of the sec=
uring bolt a little smaller :-).&nbsp;</div><div>This driving tool is worki=
ng great, but the core plug at the rear of the engine block has to be remov=
ed.</div><div>Marcel</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__=
DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox=
.team.net&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"J.C. Hassall" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><=
b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Dinsdag 9 f=
ebruari 2021 17:49:08<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Cam Bearings - TR-2 to=
 4A<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div class=
=3D"ydp4ffd1c3dyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:'helvetica neue' , 'h=
elvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:13px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I've never seen any cam bearings that were solid r=
ings.&nbsp; The Vandervell bearings may look like a complete ring, unless y=
ou look real closely and see the clench design.&nbsp; I always installed my=
 own cam bearings.&nbsp; I made my own tool years ago.&nbsp; When installin=
g non-Vandervell bearings, with a straight cut, I used to put a hose clamp =
around the bearing before I started driving it into the block.&nbsp; This k=
ept the ends of the bearing aligned.&nbsp; As I drove the bearing into the =
block, it pushed out of the hose clamp.&nbsp; Obviously, before driving the=
 bearing in, you needed to make sure the bearing was properly aligned and t=
he oil holes and the securing bolt holes were properly lined up with the bl=
ock.&nbsp; Not a difficult job if you have the right tools (driver, hose cl=
amp and a flashlight), and have done it a few times.<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">You can run into a problem if the holes in t=
he bearing are not properly lined up with the holes where the cam bearing s=
ecuring bolts screw into the block.&nbsp; When you screw the securing bolts=
 in, they may catch part of the bearing, pushing it in.&nbsp; If this happe=
ns, the cam won't go in and if you force it you may score the cam.&nbsp; If=
 this happens, you should get a new bearing, and start over.&nbsp; I speak =
from experience!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br><=
/div><br>
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sall &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <br>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Hey Jack,<div>What a great story!&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div>IFF I recall c=
orrectly, when I rebuilt my TR4 last time, the cam bearings were complete r=
ings.&nbsp; The machine shop had a rough time aligning the bearing holes wi=
th the oiler holes in the block.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div>I'm just curious.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>tnx</di=
v><div>--<br clear=3D"none"></div><div>jim&nbsp; W4BEA</div></div><br clear=
=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591gmail_quote"><div class=3D"=
ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591yqt7583245858" id=3D"ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591yqt512=
28"><div class=3D"ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, F=
eb 9, 2021 at 10:20 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow nofollow noopener noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1e=
x"><div><div style=3D"font-family:'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-s=
ize:13px"><div dir=3D"ltr">I worked for a large diesel engine manufacturer =
and Vandervell was a major bearing supplier to us.&nbsp; I was working on a=
 new product introduction team and one day the Vandervell rep was in visiti=
ng our purchasing manager.&nbsp; The purchasing manager introduced me to th=
e rep, and during the course of our discussion I shared with him the fact t=
hat I was racing a TR-4 at the time.&nbsp; I had recently experienced probl=
ems getting Vandervell cam bearings and asked him about the status of beari=
ng supply for the TR engine.&nbsp; He said he would look into it.</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A few weeks later, o=
ur purchasing manager walked into my office with a big box and said, "this =
is for you".&nbsp; He told me that the Vandervell rep had gone back to the =
UK and had one of his materials managers gather all of the TR-2/4 cam beari=
ngs from all of their major warehouses in the UK, and sent them to me.&nbsp=
; There were over 100 bearings.&nbsp; Since they were all the wide bearings=
, I had about a third of them cut down to the width of the narrow bearing.&=
nbsp; To make sure the oil holes lined up with the holes in the block, the =
machine shop had to cut an equal amount off each side of the bearing to get=
 the appropriate width.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Where is all this going?&nbsp; Well, I cha=
nged the cam bearings (because I had them) every time I rebuilt an engine, =
which was about every 4 races.&nbsp; For whatever reason, I kept a number o=
f the used bearings with 4 race weekends on them (or less).&nbsp; I have a =
total of 17 wide bearings, plus one new wide AE bearing, and 9 narrow beari=
ngs, or about 9 sets.&nbsp; I don't know if anyone is interested in running=
 used bearings in your race engines, but if you are, I am offering them to =
anyone on the list for the price of the shipping cost.&nbsp; The wear in th=
ese bearings is visible (see pictures), but barely perceptible when you run=
 your finger over the areas of wear.&nbsp; About what you would expect afte=
r 3 or 4 pace weekends.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">What is the benefit of Vandervell cam bear=
ings?&nbsp; The AE or all the other bearings that are on the market today (=
to my knowledge) have a straight split in the bearing, which can result in =
the ends of the bearing becoming misaligned.&nbsp; The Vandervell bearing h=
as a design that looks like a jigsaw puzzle piece, where the ends of the be=
aring are clenched together, preventing misalignment.&nbsp; In the third pi=
cture attached I tried to get a good shot of this feature.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">If anyone is interested in =
one or more sets of these bearings, let me know how many you want.&nbsp; Th=
anks.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<=
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Very nice crafted tool! More people may be interested. The dimensions can simply be deduced I think. 
My tool is similar, except that, instead of the long bar, I've used a threaded rod and I pull the bearings in the engine by spinning a nut on the bar, the nut is hold back by a large washer. This goes smoothly, but for the rearmost bearing, I have to remove the core plug. 
Marcel 

Van: "Jack Wheeler" <[email-masked]> 
Aan: "van mulders marcel" <[email-masked]> 
Cc: "fot" <[email-masked]> 
Verzonden: Dinsdag 9 februari 2021 22:13:43 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Cam Bearings - TR-2 to 4A 

I started with a 1" steel rod about 2' long. Threaded into one end for a 1/2" bolt and made up a thick steel doughnut just slightly under the diameter of the cam bores in the block (about 1" thick). Then I made a second nylon doughnut sized to just slip inside the bearing. These 2 doughnuts have a 1/2" hole in the center, through which the bolt goes, and screws into the end of the 1" shaft (steel doughnut first, then the nylon one). 

Then I made up a third doughnut, this one also nylon, with one OD to fit into the bore in the front of the block where the front cam bearing goes, and another OD somewhat larger. This third doughnut holds the bar straight while you drive in the bearing. I will take a [picture and attach. If you are interested in the exact dimensions, I can measure it for you. 

Cheers. 

Jack 

On Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 2:33:39 PM EST, <[email-masked]> wrote: 

Jack 

Hey Jack, 
What a great story! 

I'm just curious. 

tnx 
-- 
jim W4BEA 

Jack 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>Very nice crafted tool! More peopl=
e may be interested. The dimensions can simply be deduced I think.</div><di=
v>My tool is similar, except that, instead of the long bar, I've used a thr=
eaded rod and I pull the bearings in the engine by spinning a nut on the ba=
r, the nut is hold back by a large washer. This goes smoothly, but for the =
rearmost bearing, I have to remove the core plug.</div><div>Marcel</div><di=
v>&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><=
div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"Jack Wheeler" &lt;jwheeler1947=
@yahoo.com&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"van mulders marcel" &lt;van.mulders.marcel@t=
elenet.be&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Verzonde=
n: </b>Dinsdag 9 februari 2021 22:13:43<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Cam =
Bearings - TR-2 to 4A<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_=
TEXT__"><div class=3D"ydp51e2c56eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:'he=
lvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:13px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I started with a 1" steel rod about 2' long.&nbsp;=
 Threaded into one end for a 1/2" bolt and made up a thick steel doughnut j=
ust slightly under the diameter of the cam bores in the block (about 1" thi=
ck).&nbsp; Then I made a second nylon doughnut sized to just slip inside th=
e bearing.&nbsp; These 2 doughnuts have a 1/2" hole in the center, through =
which the bolt goes, and screws into the end of the 1" shaft (steel doughnu=
t first, then the nylon one).</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Then I made up a third doughnut, this one also nylon, with one OD to fi=
t into the bore in the front of the block where the front cam bearing goes,=
 and another OD somewhat larger.&nbsp; This third doughnut holds the bar st=
raight while you drive in the bearing.&nbsp; I will take a [picture and att=
ach.&nbsp; If you are interested in the exact dimensions, I can measure it =
for you.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers.</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br></div><br>
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1ff72dyahoo_quoted">
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                    On Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 2:33:39 PM EST,  &lt;van.=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <br>
                <br>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:'verdana' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:10=
pt;color:#000000"><div>Jack, what kind of driver do you use?&nbsp;</div><di=
v>I use a threaded rod and pull the bearings in. To keep the bearings strai=
ght, I had a cylinder of some 1" long, made on a lathe, with the outer diam=
eter a bit smaller than the outer diameter of the bearing. Over a lenght of=
 some 3mm the diameter of this cylinder is a bit smaller, the same as the i=
nner diameter of the bearings, in order to slide it into the bearing, keepi=
ng the bearing straight. When the bearing was not&nbsp; aligned completely =
right, I bodged it sometimes by making the end of the securing bolt a littl=
e smaller :-).&nbsp;</div><div>This driving tool is working great, but the =
core plug at the rear of the engine block has to be removed.</div><div>Marc=
el</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><hr id=3D"ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171zwc=
hr"><div class=3D"ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171yqt8473533341" id=3D"ydp871ff72dy=
iv0830207171yqtfd45571"><div><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<b=
r clear=3D"none"><b>Aan: </b>"J.C. Hassall" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br c=
lear=3D"none"><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"=
><b>Verzonden: </b>Dinsdag 9 februari 2021 17:49:08<br clear=3D"none"><b>On=
derwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Cam Bearings - TR-2 to 4A<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div><div class=3D"ydp871ff72dyiv08302071=
71yqt8473533341" id=3D"ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171yqtfd33478"><div class=3D"yd=
p871ff72dyiv0830207171ydp4ffd1c3dyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:'he=
lvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:13px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I've never seen any cam bearings that were solid r=
ings.&nbsp; The Vandervell bearings may look like a complete ring, unless y=
ou look real closely and see the clench design.&nbsp; I always installed my=
 own cam bearings.&nbsp; I made my own tool years ago.&nbsp; When installin=
g non-Vandervell bearings, with a straight cut, I used to put a hose clamp =
around the bearing before I started driving it into the block.&nbsp; This k=
ept the ends of the bearing aligned.&nbsp; As I drove the bearing into the =
block, it pushed out of the hose clamp.&nbsp; Obviously, before driving the=
 bearing in, you needed to make sure the bearing was properly aligned and t=
he oil holes and the securing bolt holes were properly lined up with the bl=
ock.&nbsp; Not a difficult job if you have the right tools (driver, hose cl=
amp and a flashlight), and have done it a few times.<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">You can run in=
to a problem if the holes in the bearing are not properly lined up with the=
 holes where the cam bearing securing bolts screw into the block.&nbsp; Whe=
n you screw the securing bolts in, they may catch part of the bearing, push=
ing it in.&nbsp; If this happens, the cam won't go in and if you force it y=
ou may score the cam.&nbsp; If this happens, you should get a new bearing, =
and start over.&nbsp; I speak from experience!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=
=3D"none">
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                    On Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 10:46:43 AM EST, J.C. Has=
sall &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171ydp9853ccfcyiv09247=
20591"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Jack,<div>What a great story!&nbsp;&nbsp;<=
/div><div>IFF I recall correctly, when I rebuilt my TR4 last time, the cam =
bearings were complete rings.&nbsp; The machine shop had a rough time align=
ing the bearing holes with the oiler holes in the block.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><=
div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I'm just curious.</div><div><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div>tnx</div><div>--<br clear=3D"none"></div><div>jim&nbsp; W4=
BEA</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171ydp=
9853ccfcyiv0924720591gmail_quote"><div class=3D"ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171ydp=
9853ccfcyiv0924720591yqt7583245858" id=3D"ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171ydp9853cc=
fcyiv0924720591yqt51228"><div class=3D"ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171ydp9853ccfcy=
iv0924720591gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:20 AM Jack Wh=
eeler via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"ydp871ff72=
dyiv0830207171ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv><div style=3D"font-family:'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:1=
3px"><div dir=3D"ltr">I worked for a large diesel engine manufacturer and V=
andervell was a major bearing supplier to us.&nbsp; I was working on a new =
product introduction team and one day the Vandervell rep was in visiting ou=
r purchasing manager.&nbsp; The purchasing manager introduced me to the rep=
, and during the course of our discussion I shared with him the fact that I=
 was racing a TR-4 at the time.&nbsp; I had recently experienced problems g=
etting Vandervell cam bearings and asked him about the status of bearing su=
pply for the TR engine.&nbsp; He said he would look into it.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A few weeks later, our p=
urchasing manager walked into my office with a big box and said, "this is f=
or you".&nbsp; He told me that the Vandervell rep had gone back to the UK a=
nd had one of his materials managers gather all of the TR-2/4 cam bearings =
from all of their major warehouses in the UK, and sent them to me.&nbsp; Th=
ere were over 100 bearings.&nbsp; Since they were all the wide bearings, I =
had about a third of them cut down to the width of the narrow bearing.&nbsp=
; To make sure the oil holes lined up with the holes in the block, the mach=
ine shop had to cut an equal amount off each side of the bearing to get the=
 appropriate width.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Where is all this going?&nbsp; Well, I changed =
the cam bearings (because I had them) every time I rebuilt an engine, which=
 was about every 4 races.&nbsp; For whatever reason, I kept a number of the=
 used bearings with 4 race weekends on them (or less).&nbsp; I have a total=
 of 17 wide bearings, plus one new wide AE bearing, and 9 narrow bearings, =
or about 9 sets.&nbsp; I don't know if anyone is interested in running used=
 bearings in your race engines, but if you are, I am offering them to anyon=
e on the list for the price of the shipping cost.&nbsp; The wear in these b=
earings is visible (see pictures), but barely perceptible when you run your=
 finger over the areas of wear.&nbsp; About what you would expect after 3 o=
r 4 pace weekends.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">What is the benefit of Vandervell cam bearings?&=
nbsp; The AE or all the other bearings that are on the market today (to my =
knowledge) have a straight split in the bearing, which can result in the en=
ds of the bearing becoming misaligned.&nbsp; The Vandervell bearing has a d=
esign that looks like a jigsaw puzzle piece, where the ends of the bearing =
are clenched together, preventing misalignment.&nbsp; In the third picture =
attached I tried to get a good shot of this feature.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">If anyone is interested in one or=
 more sets of these bearings, let me know how many you want.&nbsp; Thanks.<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br cle=
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 22:48:05 +0100 (CET)

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Hi Jack, 
it bounced back to me too, when forwarding with the 3 pictures attached, so I've tried now with only the main picture attached. Hope it works. 
Marcel 

Van: "Jack Wheeler" <[email-masked]> 
Aan: "van mulders marcel" <[email-masked]> 
Verzonden: Donderdag 11 februari 2021 21:21:44 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Cam Bearings - TR-2 to 4A 

Hi Marcel. When I sent this email to you I copied the FOT list, thinking others on the list might be interested. For some reason, sometimes when I send things to the FOT list with pictures attached, they bounce back. Not always, but this one did. I have attached the pictures to this email, and would like to share them with the FOT list. Could you please forward this email string, with the pictures to the FOT guys. Thanks. 

Jack 

On Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 4:13:51 PM EST, Jack Wheeler <[email-masked]> wrote: 

Cheers. 

Jack 

Jack 

Hey Jack, 
What a great story! 

I'm just curious. 

tnx 
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Jack 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi Jack,</div><div>it bounced back=
 to&nbsp; me too, when forwarding with the 3 pictures attached, so I've tri=
ed now with only the main picture attached. Hope it works.</div><div>Marcel=
</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data=
-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"Jack Wheeler" &lt;[email-masked]=
om&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"van mulders marcel" &lt;[email-masked]=
e&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Donderdag 11 februari 2021 21:21:44<br><b>Onderw=
erp: </b>Re: [Fot] Cam Bearings - TR-2 to 4A<br></div><div><br></div><div d=
ata-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div class=3D"ydp1a278777yahoo-style-wrap" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;f=
ont-size:13px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Marcel.&nbsp; When I sent this email to you I c=
opied the FOT list, thinking others on the list might be interested.&nbsp; =
For some reason, sometimes when I send things to the FOT list with pictures=
 attached, they bounce back.&nbsp; Not always, but this one did.&nbsp; I ha=
ve attached&nbsp; the pictures to this email, and would like to share them =
with the FOT list.&nbsp; Could you please forward this email string, with t=
he pictures to the FOT guys.&nbsp; Thanks.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br></div><br>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydp86515652yahoo_quoted_3717657862" class=3D"ydp86=
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                    On Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 4:13:51 PM EST, Jack Whee=
ler &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <br>
                <br>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp86515652yiv5295726684"><div><div class=
=3D"ydp86515652yiv5295726684ydp51e2c56eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:13px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I started with a 1" steel rod about 2' long.&nbsp;=
 Threaded into one end for a 1/2" bolt and made up a thick steel doughnut j=
ust slightly under the diameter of the cam bores in the block (about 1" thi=
ck).&nbsp; Then I made a second nylon doughnut sized to just slip inside th=
e bearing.&nbsp; These 2 doughnuts have a 1/2" hole in the center, through =
which the bolt goes, and screws into the end of the 1" shaft (steel doughnu=
t first, then the nylon one).</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Then I made up a third doughnut, this one also nylon, wi=
th one OD to fit into the bore in the front of the block where the front ca=
m bearing goes, and another OD somewhat larger.&nbsp; This third doughnut h=
olds the bar straight while you drive in the bearing.&nbsp; I will take a [=
picture and attach.&nbsp; If you are interested in the exact dimensions, I =
can measure it for you.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Cheers.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Jack<br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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p86515652yiv5295726684yqt75722"><div class=3D"ydp86515652yiv5295726684ydp87=
1ff72dyahoo_quoted" id=3D"ydp86515652yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dyahoo_quoted_3=
627231071">
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                    On Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 2:33:39 PM EST,  &lt;van.=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp86515652yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dyiv08302=
07171"><div><div style=3D"font-family:'verdana' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000"><div>Jack, what kind of driver do y=
ou use?&nbsp;</div><div>I use a threaded rod and pull the bearings in. To k=
eep the bearings straight, I had a cylinder of some 1" long, made on a lath=
e, with the outer diameter a bit smaller than the outer diameter of the bea=
ring. Over a lenght of some 3mm the diameter of this cylinder is a bit smal=
ler, the same as the inner diameter of the bearings, in order to slide it i=
nto the bearing, keeping the bearing straight. When the bearing was not&nbs=
p; aligned completely right, I bodged it sometimes by making the end of the=
 securing bolt a little smaller :-).&nbsp;</div><div>This driving tool is w=
orking great, but the core plug at the rear of the engine block has to be r=
emoved.</div><div>Marcel</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><hr id=3D"ydp86=
515652yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171zwchr"><div class=3D"ydp86515652=
yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171yqt8473533341" id=3D"ydp86515652yiv529=
5726684ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171yqtfd45571"><div><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@a=
utox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Aan: </b>"J.C. Hassall" &lt;jhassall=
@gmail.com&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Verzonden: </b>Dinsdag 9 februari 2021 17:49:08<br c=
lear=3D"none"><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Cam Bearings - TR-2 to 4A<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div><div class=3D"ydp=
86515652yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171yqt8473533341" id=3D"ydp865156=
52yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171yqtfd33478"><div class=3D"ydp8651565=
2yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171ydp4ffd1c3dyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D=
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e:13px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I've never seen any cam bearings that were solid r=
ings.&nbsp; The Vandervell bearings may look like a complete ring, unless y=
ou look real closely and see the clench design.&nbsp; I always installed my=
 own cam bearings.&nbsp; I made my own tool years ago.&nbsp; When installin=
g non-Vandervell bearings, with a straight cut, I used to put a hose clamp =
around the bearing before I started driving it into the block.&nbsp; This k=
ept the ends of the bearing aligned.&nbsp; As I drove the bearing into the =
block, it pushed out of the hose clamp.&nbsp; Obviously, before driving the=
 bearing in, you needed to make sure the bearing was properly aligned and t=
he oil holes and the securing bolt holes were properly lined up with the bl=
ock.&nbsp; Not a difficult job if you have the right tools (driver, hose cl=
amp and a flashlight), and have done it a few times.<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">You can run in=
to a problem if the holes in the bearing are not properly lined up with the=
 holes where the cam bearing securing bolts screw into the block.&nbsp; Whe=
n you screw the securing bolts in, they may catch part of the bearing, push=
ing it in.&nbsp; If this happens, the cam won't go in and if you force it y=
ou may score the cam.&nbsp; If this happens, you should get a new bearing, =
and start over.&nbsp; I speak from experience!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=
=3D"none">
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                    On Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 10:46:43 AM EST, J.C. Has=
sall &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp86515652yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dyiv08302=
07171ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Jack,<div>What a g=
reat story!&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div>IFF I recall correctly, when I rebuilt my=
 TR4 last time, the cam bearings were complete rings.&nbsp; The machine sho=
p had a rough time aligning the bearing holes with the oiler holes in the b=
lock.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I'm just curious.=
</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>tnx</div><div>--<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div>jim&nbsp; W4BEA</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp=
86515652yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591gmail_=
quote"><div class=3D"ydp86515652yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171ydp985=
3ccfcyiv0924720591yqt7583245858" id=3D"ydp86515652yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dy=
iv0830207171ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591yqt51228"><div class=3D"ydp86515652yiv5=
295726684ydp871ff72dyiv0830207171ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591gmail_attr" dir=3D=
"ltr">On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:20 AM Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"=
rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow nofollow noopener =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"ydp86515652yiv5295726684ydp871ff72dyiv083=
0207171ydp9853ccfcyiv0924720591gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div><div=
 style=3D"font-family:'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:13px"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">I worked for a large diesel engine manufacturer and Vanderve=
ll was a major bearing supplier to us.&nbsp; I was working on a new product=
 introduction team and one day the Vandervell rep was in visiting our purch=
asing manager.&nbsp; The purchasing manager introduced me to the rep, and d=
uring the course of our discussion I shared with him the fact that I was ra=
cing a TR-4 at the time.&nbsp; I had recently experienced problems getting =
Vandervell cam bearings and asked him about the status of bearing supply fo=
r the TR engine.&nbsp; He said he would look into it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A few weeks later, our purchasin=
g manager walked into my office with a big box and said, "this is for you".=
&nbsp; He told me that the Vandervell rep had gone back to the UK and had o=
ne of his materials managers gather all of the TR-2/4 cam bearings from all=
 of their major warehouses in the UK, and sent them to me.&nbsp; There were=
 over 100 bearings.&nbsp; Since they were all the wide bearings, I had abou=
t a third of them cut down to the width of the narrow bearing.&nbsp; To mak=
e sure the oil holes lined up with the holes in the block, the machine shop=
 had to cut an equal amount off each side of the bearing to get the appropr=
iate width.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Where is all this going?&nbsp; Well, I changed the cam =
bearings (because I had them) every time I rebuilt an engine, which was abo=
ut every 4 races.&nbsp; For whatever reason, I kept a number of the used be=
arings with 4 race weekends on them (or less).&nbsp; I have a total of 17 w=
ide bearings, plus one new wide AE bearing, and 9 narrow bearings, or about=
 9 sets.&nbsp; I don't know if anyone is interested in running used bearing=
s in your race engines, but if you are, I am offering them to anyone on the=
 list for the price of the shipping cost.&nbsp; The wear in these bearings =
is visible (see pictures), but barely perceptible when you run your finger =
over the areas of wear.&nbsp; About what you would expect after 3 or 4 pace=
 weekends.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">What is the benefit of Vandervell cam bearings?&nbsp; Th=
e AE or all the other bearings that are on the market today (to my knowledg=
e) have a straight split in the bearing, which can result in the ends of th=
e bearing becoming misaligned.&nbsp; The Vandervell bearing has a design th=
at looks like a jigsaw puzzle piece, where the ends of the bearing are clen=
ched together, preventing misalignment.&nbsp; In the third picture attached=
 I tried to get a good shot of this feature.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">If anyone is interested in one or more se=
ts of these bearings, let me know how many you want.&nbsp; Thanks.</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br cl=
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arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;background-color:rgb( 250 , 250 , 251 )">=
<br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"color:rgb( =
0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;background-color=
:rgb( 250 , 250 , 251 )">The democracy will cease to exist when you take aw=
ay from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.</spa=
n><br style=3D"color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , s=
ans-serif;background-color:rgb( 250 , 250 , 251 )" clear=3D"none"><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 );font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif=
;background-color:rgb( 250 , 250 , 251 )">Thomas Jefferson</span><br clear=
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);font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;background-color:rgb( 250 =
, 250 , 251 )"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I some=
times feel bad for the smart people - being simple-minded and easily entert=
ained is totally the way to go! ;-)</div><div>J. Stoll</div><div><br clear=
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