Subject: Re: [Fot] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets

From: "van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:04:10 +0100 (CET)

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Hi Dan,=20
I've experience with the plain copper gaskets of Mordy Dunst, with or witho=
ut his stainless steel O-rings. In my opinion, there is no need of using O-=
rings on a wet liner engine because the liners are protruding above the eng=
ine block.=20
If the liners are not protruding evenly (0.005-0.0075"), the O-rings will n=
ot make things better. I've used the copper gaskets with the stainless stee=
l O-rings in a 4-cyl TR engine with welded liners and also on a 6-cylinder =
TR engine with evenly spaced cylinders : as the liners are not protruding i=
n these engines, the O-rings are useful and are working very well (together=
 with the copper gaskets). As for the Fo8 gaskets : nothing is wrong with t=
he copper and aluminium gaskets that are available nowadays, there is a sma=
ll difference in thickness. Of course, leaks can occur because of corrosion=
 or when moving the crankshaft when the liners are not fixed.=20
Marcel=20

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Onderwerp: [Fot] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets=20

Folks=20
Looking for some background information and recommendations on the preferre=
d Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for each of you in =
your various engine re-builds. And any comments / observations you choose t=
o share either on or off list. The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston a=
nd liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy m=
ain crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to=
 a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with al=
loy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. Stainless St=
eel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller =
rockers on alloy pedestals. BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.=
040 removed mostly to true things up and remove prior imperfections. The he=
ad chambers have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even thin=
gs out with a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. I am planning on ins=
talling Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=
=9D compression rings on the head side of the gasket that will be sprayed w=
ith a copper coating on each side. Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individua=
l gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.0=
03. Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forwa=
rd to as many responses as possible to assist in trying to get this critica=
l step as close to right as I can.=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi Dan,</div><div>I've experience =
with the plain copper gaskets of Mordy Dunst, with or without his stainless=
 steel O-rings. In my opinion, there is no need of using O-rings on a wet l=
iner engine because the liners are protruding above the engine block.</div>=
<div>If the liners are not protruding evenly (0.005-0.0075"), the O-rings w=
ill not make things better. I've used the&nbsp; copper gaskets with the sta=
inless steel O-rings in a 4-cyl TR engine with welded liners&nbsp; and also=
 on a 6-cylinder TR engine with evenly spaced cylinders : as the liners are=
 not protruding in these engines, the O-rings are useful and are working ve=
ry well (together with the copper gaskets). As for the Fo8 gaskets : nothin=
g is wrong with the copper and aluminium gaskets that are available nowaday=
s, there is a small difference in thickness. Of course, leaks can occur bec=
ause of corrosion or when moving the crankshaft when the liners are not fix=
ed.</div><div>Marcel</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__=
DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox=
.team.net&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Triumph List" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
, "fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag 5 februari =
2021 20:06:18<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>[Fot] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets<br></=
div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">Folks<div class=3D"=
">Looking for some background information and recommendations on the prefer=
red Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for each of you i=
n your various engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &nbsp;any comments / observation=
s you choose to share either on or off list. The motor I am building has a =
89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a =
Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper and =
at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conv=
ersion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover=
. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze=
 guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedestals. &nbsp;BPNW 270 duration cam=
. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things up and remove p=
rior imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambers have been mildly worked to smoo=
th any sharp edges and even things out with a resulting chamber volume of 6=
0.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022 copper gas=
ket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on the head side=
 of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper coating on each side. &nb=
sp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has allowed me to=
 obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. &nbsp;Am aiming at a compres=
sion ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many responses as=
 possible to assist in trying to get this critical step as close to right a=
s I can.</div><div class=3D"">DC</div><div class=3D""><img id=3D"548C3C2E-F=
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From: Greg Blake via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 08:00:46 -0600

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For the Fo8, I=E2=80=99ve always used Hylomar blue. Great stuff. I=E2=80=99m=
 sure other non setting materials might work just as well but this has alway=
s worked for me so I have not tried anything else.=20

Assemble the liners and Fo8 dry to measure your liner heights, adjust the st=
ack of Fo8 gaskets accordingly and put a thin coating of hylomar on them for=
 final assembly.=20

https://hylomar.com/en/universal-blue/

Greg=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:51 PM, Dan Cronin via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFFolks
> Looking for some background information and recommendations on the preferr=
ed Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for each of you in y=
our various engine re-builds.  And  any comments / observations you choose t=
o share either on or off list. The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston an=
d liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy mai=
n crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a =
Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy d=
rive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover.  Stainless Steel v=
alves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rocker=
s on alloy pedestals.  BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 re=
moved mostly to true things up and remove prior imperfections.  The head cha=
mbers have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out w=
ith a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each.  I am planning on installing G=
asket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compres=
sion rings on the head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper=
 coating on each side.  Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets th=
at has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003.  Am aimin=
g at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many=
 responses as possible to assist in trying to get this critical step as clos=
e to right as I can.
> DC
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">For the Fo8, I=E2=80=99ve always used Hylom=
ar blue. Great stuff. I=E2=80=99m sure other non setting materials might wor=
k just as well but this has always worked for me so I have not tried anythin=
g else.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Assemble the liners and Fo8 dry to measure y=
our liner heights, adjust the stack of Fo8 gaskets accordingly and put a thi=
n coating of hylomar on them for final assembly.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><=
div><a href=3D"https://hylomar.com/en/universal-blue/">https://hylomar.com/e=
n/universal-blue/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Greg&nbsp;</div><div><br><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:51 PM, Dan Cronin via Fot &lt;[email-masked]=
t&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; chars=
et=3Dutf-8">Folks<div class=3D"">Looking for some background information and=
 recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to h=
ave worked for each of you in your various engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &nbsp=
;any comments / observations you choose to share either on or off list. The m=
otor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corr=
ello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a=
 ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm=
 clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. a=
nd alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake=
 thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedestals. &nbsp;BPNW=
 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things=
 up and remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambers have been mildly=
 worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with a resulting chamb=
er volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.0=
22 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on t=
he head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper coating on eac=
h side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has all=
owed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. &nbsp;Am aiming at a=
 compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many respo=
nses as possible to assist in trying to get this critical step as close to r=
ight as I can.</div><div class=3D"">DC</div><div class=3D""><div>&lt;IMG_366=
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From: Larry Young via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 14:40:49 -0600

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I like hylomar too. It needs to be thin so it will easily squish out. 
Something like the old Permatex will screw up all your efforts to get 
the correct liner height.
  - Larry

On 2/6/2021 8:00 AM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote:
> For the Fo8, I’ve always used Hylomar blue. Great stuff. I’m sure 
> other non setting materials might work just as well but this has 
> always worked for me so I have not tried anything else.
>
> Assemble the liners and Fo8 dry to measure your liner heights, adjust 
> the stack of Fo8 gaskets accordingly and put a thin coating of hylomar 
> on them for final assembly.
>
> <https://hylomar.com/en/universal-blue/>
>
> Greg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:51 PM, Dan Cronin via Fot <[email-masked]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Folks
>> Looking for some background information and recommendations on the 
>> preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for 
>> each of you in your various engine re-builds.  And  any comments / 
>> observations you choose to share either on or off list. The motor I 
>> am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with 
>> Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the 
>> front with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy 
>> Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive 
>> shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover.  Stainless Steel 
>> valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S 
>> roller rockers on alloy pedestals.  BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A 
>> head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things up and remove prior 
>> imperfections.  The head chambers have been mildly worked to smooth 
>> any sharp edges and even things out with a resulting chamber volume 
>> of 60.5cc each.  I am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022 
>> copper gasket with their 0.005 “O” compression rings on the head side 
>> of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper coating on each 
>> side.  Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has 
>> allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003.  Am 
>> aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking 
>> forward to as many responses as possible to assist in trying to get 
>> this critical step as close to right as I can.
>> DC
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    I like hylomar too. It needs to be thin so it will easily squish
    out. Something like the old Permatex will screw up all your efforts
    to get the correct liner height.<br>
     - Larry<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/6/2021 8:00 AM, Greg Blake via Fot
      wrote:<br>
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      For the Fo8, I’ve always used Hylomar blue. Great stuff. I’m sure
      other non setting materials might work just as well but this has
      always worked for me so I have not tried anything else. 
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Assemble the liners and Fo8 dry to measure your liner
        heights, adjust the stack of Fo8 gaskets accordingly and put a
        thin coating of hylomar on them for final assembly. </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><a href="https://hylomar.com/en/universal-blue/"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://hylomar.com/en/universal-blue/</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Greg </div>
      <div><br>
        <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
        <div dir="ltr"><br>
          <blockquote type="cite">On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:51 PM, Dan
            Cronin via Fot <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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            Folks
            <div class="">Looking for some background information and
              recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing
              compound that seems to have worked for each of you in your
              various engine re-builds.  And  any comments /
              observations you choose to share either on or off list.
              The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit
              from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower
              dummy main crank connected at the front with a ATI Super
              Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with
              diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive
              shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover.
               Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru
              Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy
              pedestals.  BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had
              0.040 removed mostly to true things up and remove prior
              imperfections.  The head chambers have been mildly worked
              to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with a
              resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each.  I am planning on
              installing Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their
              0.005 “O” compression rings on the head side of the gasket
              that will be sprayed with a copper coating on each side.
               Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that
              has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to
              0.003.  Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to
              1+/- . Looking forward to as many responses as possible to
              assist in trying to get this critical step as close to
              right as I can.</div>
            <div class="">DC</div>
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When using the thick silicone layer=E2=80=A6.I put the head on and give =
moderate torque on to force the liners down and let it sit for an hour =
or so before I continue.

I don=E2=80=99t trust Hylomar at this place.

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Cheers

Chris

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=20

I like hylomar too. It needs to be thin so it will easily squish out. =
Something like the old Permatex will screw up all your efforts to get =
the correct liner height.
 - Larry

For the Fo8, I=E2=80=99ve always used Hylomar blue. Great stuff. =
I=E2=80=99m sure other non setting materials might work just as well but =
this has always worked for me so I have not tried anything else. =20

=20

Assemble the liners and Fo8 dry to measure your liner heights, adjust =
the stack of Fo8 gaskets accordingly and put a thin coating of hylomar =
on them for final assembly.=20

=20

=20

Greg=20

=20

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:51 PM, Dan Cronin via Fot  =

=EF=BB=BF Folks=20

Looking for some background information and recommendations on the =
preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for each =
of you in your various engine re-builds.  And  any comments / =
observations you choose to share either on or off list. The motor I am =
building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corrello =
rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a =
ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with =
diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife =
4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover.  Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 =
oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy =
pedestals.  BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed =
mostly to true things up and remove prior imperfections.  The head =
chambers have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even =
things out with a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each.  I am =
planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =
=E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on the head side of the gasket =
that will be sprayed with a copper coating on each side.  Gasket Works =
sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a =
liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003.  Am aiming at a compression ratio =
of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many responses as =
possible to assist in trying to get this critical step as close to right =
as I can.

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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>When using the thick silicone =
layer=E2=80=A6.I put the head on and give moderate torque on to force =
the liners down and let it sit for an hour or so before I =
continue.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=80=99t trust =
Hylomar at this place.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von =
</b>Larry Young via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 6. Februar 2021 =
21:41<br><b>An:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] =
Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I like hylomar too. It needs to be thin =
so it will easily squish out. Something like the old Permatex will screw =
up all your efforts to get the correct liner height.<br>&nbsp;- =
Larry<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 2/6/2021 8:00 AM, Greg =
Blake via Fot wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>For =
the Fo8, I=E2=80=99ve always used Hylomar blue. Great stuff. I=E2=80=99m =
sure other non setting materials might work just as well but this has =
always worked for me so I have not tried anything else.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Assemble the liners and Fo8 dry to measure your liner =
heights, adjust the stack of Fo8 gaskets accordingly and put a thin =
coating of hylomar on them for final =
assembly.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://hylomar.com/en/universal-blue/">https://hylomar.com/en/un=
iversal-blue/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Greg&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent =
from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:51 PM, Dan Cronin =
via Fot <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF Folks <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Looking for some background information and =
recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems =
to have worked for each of you in your various engine re-builds. =
&nbsp;And &nbsp;any comments / observations you choose to share either =
on or off list. The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit =
from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank =
connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a =
Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with =
alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. =
&nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. =
Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedestals. &nbsp;BPNW 270 =
duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things =
up and remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambers have been =
mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with a =
resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on =
installing Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =
=E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on the head side of the gasket =
that will be sprayed with a copper coating on each side. &nbsp;Gasket =
Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has allowed me to obtain =
a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. &nbsp;Am aiming at a compression =
ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many responses as =
possible to assist in trying to get this critical step as close to right =
as I can.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>DC<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
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 hylomar.
never sets up solid like silicone.that means you have time to set the liner=
s and go have a scotch, come back, mess around.=C2=A0leave it overnight and=
 take up the task again tomorrow.
the best gasket dressing ever invented.
Frank
    On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Cronin <[email-masked]=
r.com> wrote: =20
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 FolksLooking for some background information and recommendations on the pr=
eferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for each of y=
ou in your various engine re-builds. =C2=A0And =C2=A0any comments / observa=
tions you choose to share either on or off list. The motor I am building ha=
s a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts an=
d a Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper =
and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA =
conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back c=
over. =C2=A0Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Br=
onze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedestals. =C2=A0BPNW 270 duration=
 cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things up and remo=
ve prior imperfections. =C2=A0The head chambers have been mildly worked to =
smooth any sharp edges and even things out with a resulting chamber volume =
of 60.5cc each. =C2=A0I am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022 copper=
 gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on the head =
side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper coating on each side.=
 =C2=A0Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has allowed m=
e to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. =C2=A0Am aiming at a com=
pression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many response=
s as possible to assist in trying to get this critical step as close to rig=
ht as I can.DC** [email-masked] **

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">hylomar.</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">n=
ever sets up solid like silicone.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fals=
e">that means you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come ba=
ck, mess around.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">leave it=
 overnight and take up the task again tomorrow.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">the best =
gasket dressing ever invented.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">=
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n &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385"><div>Folks<div cl=
ass=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">Looking for some background information an=
d recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems t=
o have worked for each of you in your various engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &=
nbsp;any comments / observations you choose to share either on or off list.=
 The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along wi=
th Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the fro=
nt with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with=
 diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.=
11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 ov=
ersize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedesta=
ls. &nbsp;BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly=
 to true things up and remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambers =
have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with =
a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on installin=
g Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D com=
pression rings on the head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a c=
opper coating on each side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual=
 gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.00=
3. &nbsp;Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking =
forward to as many responses as possible to assist in trying to get this cr=
itical step as close to right as I can.</div><div class=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv82=
72376385">DC</div><div class=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385"><img id=3D"ydp298=
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Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyone does it but...=20=

Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, I use a ol=
d liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some valve lapping c=
ompound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. Clean it up good an=
d then use your sealant of choice.
Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer
Albuquerque NM

> On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
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> hylomar.
>=20
> never sets up solid like silicone.
> that means you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back=
, mess around.=20
> leave it overnight and take up the task again tomorrow.
>=20
> On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Cronin <[email-masked]=
> DC
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Don=
=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyone does it but...&nbsp;=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I=
 can get it, I use a old liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth w=
ith some valve lapping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating f=
ace. Clean it up good and then use your sealant of choice.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Albuquerque N=
M</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpa6=
a2aedcyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Aria=
l, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">hylomar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">nev=
er sets up solid like silicone.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">=
that means you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back, m=
ess around.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">leave it overn=
ight and take up the task again tomorrow.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">the best gasket dre=
ssing ever invented.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Frank</div><div><br></div>
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                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385"><div>Folks<div cla=
ss=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">Looking for some background information and r=
ecommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to ha=
ve worked for each of you in your various engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &nbsp;=
any comments / observations you choose to share either on or off list. The m=
otor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corr=
ello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a=
 ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm=
 clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. a=
nd alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake=
 thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedestals. &nbsp;BPNW=
 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things=
 up and remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambers have been mildly=
 worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with a resulting chamb=
er volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.0=
22 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on t=
he head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper coating on eac=
h side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has all=
owed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. &nbsp;Am aiming at a=
 compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many respo=
nses as possible to assist in trying to get this critical step as close to r=
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It seems that about all sealants are performing well on the Fo8 gaskets, ma=
ybe because there is no need for it? So, most products won't do any harm, b=
ut be aware of anaerobic gasket makers : these can cure very fast, forming =
an elastic layer of some thou thickness : the Fo8 gaskets won't leak, but t=
he cylinderhead gasket will.=20
Marcel=20

Van: "fot" <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: "Triumph List" <[email-masked]>, "fot" <[email-masked]>=20
Verzonden: Zondag 7 februari 2021 03:17:01=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets=20

Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyone does it but...=
=20
Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, I use a o=
ld liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some valve lappin=
g compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. Clean it up goo=
d and then use your sealant of choice.=20
Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer=20
Albuquerque NM=20

On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot < [ mailto:[email-masked].=
net | [email-masked] ] > wrote:=20

hylomar.=20

never sets up solid like silicone.=20
that means you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back,=
 mess around.=20
leave it overnight and take up the task again tomorrow.=20

the best gasket dressing ever invented.=20

Frank=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>It seems that about=
 all sealants are performing well on the Fo8 gaskets, maybe because there i=
s no need for it? So, most products won't do any harm, but be aware of anae=
robic gasket makers : these can cure very fast, forming an elastic layer of=
 some thou thickness : the Fo8 gaskets won't leak, but the cylinderhead gas=
ket will.</div><div>Marcel</div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__=
"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"Triumph List" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "fot" &l=
t;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Zondag 7 februari 2021 03:17:=
01<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets<br></di=
v><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div dir=3D"ltr"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyo=
ne does it but...&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Once I=E2=80=99ve got the lin=
er landing as clean as I can get it, I use a old liner as a hone and by twi=
sting is back and forth with some valve lapping compound, get a nice shiny =
ring on the block mating face. Clean it up good and then use your sealant o=
f choice.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Albuquerque NM</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Feb 6, 2021, at=
 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpa6a2=
aedcyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' ,=
 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:16px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">hylomar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">never sets up solid like silicone.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">that mean=
s you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back, mess aro=
und.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">leave it overnight and take up the task ag=
ain tomorrow.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the best gas=
ket dressing ever invented.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Frank</div><br>
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                </div>
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385"><div>Folks<div cl=
ass=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">Looking for some background information an=
d recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems t=
o have worked for each of you in your various engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &=
nbsp;any comments / observations you choose to share either on or off list.=
 The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along wi=
th Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the fro=
nt with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with=
 diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.=
11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 ov=
ersize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedesta=
ls. &nbsp;BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly=
 to true things up and remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambers =
have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with =
a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on installin=
g Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D com=
pression rings on the head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a c=
opper coating on each side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual=
 gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.00=
3. &nbsp;Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking =
forward to as many responses as possible to assist in trying to get this cr=
itical step as close to right as I can.</div><div class=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv82=
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FOT,

I have one thought to add to the sealant conversation and I am not =
intending to restart the entire oil debate by commenting on this.   I =
know that many on the list feel that Brad Penn is the only oil, and that =
is OK if that is your belief.

However, there are many good race oil choices on the market and more =
being added every day.  Some of the synthetic and synthetic blend race =
oils have an additive package in them that is very aggressive to some of =
the traditional sealants.  They will actually dissolve them even after =
they are cured.

My tought here -  if you have interest in trying a particular oil you =
should check with the oil manufacturers tech support regarding sealant =
compatibility.  Do some homework upfront and it will save you from =
having to tear down a fresh engine to re-seal your rear main gasket, oil =
pan, etc, etc.

Just my two-sense on the sealant subject.

Paul Ricco

> On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
> Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyone does it =
but...=20
> Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, I =
use a old liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some =
valve lapping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. =
Clean it up good and then use your sealant of choice.
> On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot <[email-masked] =
>=20
>> hylomar.
>>=20
>> that means you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come =
back, mess around.=20
>> On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Cronin =
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">FOT,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I =
have one thought to add to the sealant conversation and I am not =
intending to restart the entire oil debate by commenting on this. &nbsp; =
I know that many on the list feel that Brad Penn is the only oil, and =
that is OK if that is your belief.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">However, there are many good race oil =
choices on the market and more being added every day. &nbsp;Some of the =
synthetic and synthetic blend race oils have an additive package in them =
that is very aggressive to some of the traditional sealants. &nbsp;They =
will actually dissolve them even after they are cured.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">My tought here - =
&nbsp;if you have interest in trying a particular oil you should check =
with the oil manufacturers tech support regarding sealant compatibility. =
&nbsp;Do some homework upfront and it will save you from having to tear =
down a fresh engine to re-seal your rear main gasket, oil pan, etc, =
etc.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Just my =
two-sense on the sealant subject.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Paul Ricco</div><div class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb =
6, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Don=E2=80=99t know if =
it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyone does it but...&nbsp;</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean =
as I can get it, I use a old liner as a hone and by twisting is back and =
forth with some valve lapping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the =
block mating face. Clean it up good and then use your sealant of =
choice.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D =
Hilyer</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Albuquerque NM</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank =
Fisher via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"ydpa6a2aedcyahoo-style-wrap" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div class=3D""></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" =
class=3D"">hylomar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" =
class=3D"">never sets up solid like silicone.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">that means you have time to set the =
liners and go have a scotch, come back, mess around.&nbsp;</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">leave it overnight and take =
up the task again tomorrow.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" =
class=3D"">the best gasket dressing ever invented.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">Frank</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"ydp2984ea6cyahoo_quoted_3384257547" =
class=3D"ydp2984ea6cyahoo_quoted">
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Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;" class=3D"">
               =20
                <div class=3D"">
                    On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan =
Cronin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><div id=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Folks<div =
class=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">Looking for some background =
information and recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing =
compound that seems to have worked for each of you in your various =
engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &nbsp;any comments / observations you choose =
to share either on or off list. The motor I am building has a 89 mm =
piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a =
Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper =
and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an =
HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and =
alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize =
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that will be sprayed with a copper coating on each side. &nbsp;Gasket =
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a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. &nbsp;Am aiming at a compression =
ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many responses as =
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 15:45:27 +0000 (UTC)

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Great point, Paul; As both Dave and I have said in other threads, the Drive=
n/Joe Gibbs oil we use dissolves the Permatex Aviation cement popular for r=
ear main cap side seals and some have indicated they use on the fo8 gaskets=
.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Ricco via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: Friends of Triumph <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2021 10:16 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets

FOT,
I have one thought to add to the sealant conversation and I am not intendin=
g to restart the entire oil debate by commenting on this. =C2=A0 I know tha=
t many on the list feel that Brad Penn is the only oil, and that is OK if t=
hat is your belief.
However, there are many good race oil choices on the market and more being =
added every day. =C2=A0Some of the synthetic and synthetic blend race oils =
have an additive package in them that is very aggressive to some of the tra=
ditional sealants. =C2=A0They will actually dissolve them even after they a=
re cured.
My tought here - =C2=A0if you have interest in trying a particular oil you =
should check with the oil manufacturers tech support regarding sealant comp=
atibility. =C2=A0Do some homework upfront and it will save you from having =
to tear down a fresh engine to re-seal your rear main gasket, oil pan, etc,=
 etc.
Just my two-sense on the sealant subject.
Paul Ricco

On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyone does it but...=
=C2=A0Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, I u=
se a old liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some valve =
lapping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. Clean it =
up good and then use your sealant of choice.Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D H=
ilyerAlbuquerque NM
On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

 hylomar.

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<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;=
color:black;">Great point, Paul; As both Dave and I have said in other thre=
ads, the Driven/Joe Gibbs oil we use dissolves the Permatex Aviation cement=
 popular for rear main cap side seals and some have indicated they use on t=
he fo8 gaskets.<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Paul Ricco v=
ia Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: Friends of Triumph &lt;[email-masked]=
eam.net&gt;<br>Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2021 10:16 am<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] S=
ealants used on Fo8 gaskets<br><br></div><div id=3D"yiv2896602717"><div>FOT=
,<div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></=
div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">I have one thought to add to the sealant c=
onversation and I am not intending to restart the entire oil debate by comm=
enting on this. &nbsp; I know that many on the list feel that Brad Penn is =
the only oil, and that is OK if that is your belief.</div><div class=3D"yiv=
2896602717"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div><div class=3D"=
yiv2896602717">However, there are many good race oil choices on the market =
and more being added every day. &nbsp;Some of the synthetic and synthetic b=
lend race oils have an additive package in them that is very aggressive to =
some of the traditional sealants. &nbsp;They will actually dissolve them ev=
en after they are cured.</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"non=
e" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">My tought her=
e - &nbsp;if you have interest in trying a particular oil you should check =
with the oil manufacturers tech support regarding sealant compatibility. &n=
bsp;Do some homework upfront and it will save you from having to tear down =
a fresh engine to re-seal your rear main gasket, oil pan, etc, etc.</div><d=
iv class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div=
><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">Just my two-sense on the sealant subject.</di=
v><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"><=
/div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">Paul Ricco</div><div class=3D"yiv28966027=
17yqt0102699441" id=3D"yiv2896602717yqt90317"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">=
<div><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"><blockquote class=3D"yiv289=
6602717" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:17=
 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2896602717" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:</div><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717Apple-interchange-ne=
wline"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div></blockquote></div></div></div></=
div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717yqt0102699441" id=3D"yiv2896602717yqt79230">=
<div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">=
</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=
=80=99s my trick or if everyone does it but...&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv=
2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as=
 I can get it, I use a old liner as a hone and by twisting is back and fort=
h with some valve lapping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mati=
ng face. Clean it up good and then use your sealant of choice.</div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer</div=
><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">Albuquerque NM</div><div class=3D=
"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717">On F=
eb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopene=
r noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2896602717" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fot@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br c=
lear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv2896602=
717" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"y=
iv2896602717ydpa6a2aedcyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neu=
e, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div class=3D"yiv289660271=
7"></div>
        <div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">hylomar.</div><div class=
=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"><=
/div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">never sets up solid like sili=
cone.</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">that means you have tim=
e to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back, mess around.&nbsp;</di=
v><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">leave it overnight and take up t=
he task again tomorrow.</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr"><br c=
lear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" di=
r=3D"ltr">the best gasket dressing ever invented.</div><div class=3D"yiv289=
6602717" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div><div =
class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">Frank</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"=
><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div>
       =20
        </div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717ydp2984ea6cyahoo_quoted" id=3D"yiv=
2896602717ydp2984ea6cyahoo_quoted_3384257547">
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ue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div class=3D"yiv2896602717">
                    On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Croni=
n &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv28=
96602717" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
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                </div>
                <div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yi=
v2896602717"></div>
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v2896602717"></div>
                <div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" i=
d=3D"yiv2896602717ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">Fo=
lks<div class=3D"yiv2896602717ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">Looking for some ba=
ckground information and recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealin=
g compound that seems to have worked for each of you in your various engine=
 re-builds. &nbsp;And &nbsp;any comments / observations you choose to share=
 either on or off list. The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and line=
r kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main cra=
nk connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fida=
nza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy dri=
ve shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Ste=
el valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller r=
ockers on alloy pedestals. &nbsp;BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has h=
ad 0.040 removed mostly to true things up and remove prior imperfections. &=
nbsp;The head chambers have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges an=
d even things out with a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I a=
m planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =
=E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on the head side of the gasket that w=
ill be sprayed with a copper coating on each side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent =
a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a liner protr=
usion of 0.0025 to 0.003. &nbsp;Am aiming at a compression ratio of around =
9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many responses as possible to assist i=
n trying to get this critical step as close to right as I can.</div><div cl=
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I like the method of using an old liner to polish the gasket surface.  Alth=
ough a light amount would be nice just to get a good clear image of the sur=
face condition. =20
I used the red, High-Tack spray-on sealant with a copper gasket when I put =
together my first and last and only TR engine build, which is now apart for=
 a refresh after 19 race weekends and a total of 5,500 miles.  I sprayed bo=
th sides of the gasket, let it tack up and set them in place.  I haven't pu=
lled the liners.  I thought I'd just replace the rings and bearings, check =
and polish the crank and refresh the valves and seats and put it back toget=
her.
I think Marcel has made a good point that it's possible no sealant is neces=
sary if all conditions are otherwise excellent.  The sealant is just added =
insurance.
Dave H.

>     On 02/07/2021 12:44 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <[email-masked].=
net> wrote:
>     =20
>     =20
>     =20
>     It seems that about all sealants are performing well on the Fo8 gaske=
ts, maybe because there is no need for it? So, most products won't do any h=
arm, but be aware of anaerobic gasket makers : these can cure very fast, fo=
rming an elastic layer of some thou thickness : the Fo8 gaskets won't leak,=
 but the cylinderhead gasket will.
>     Marcel
>=20
>     ---------------------------------------------
>     Van: "fot" <[email-masked]>
>     Cc: "Triumph List" <[email-masked]>, "fot" <[email-masked]=
et>
>     Verzonden: Zondag 7 februari 2021 03:17:01
>     Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyone does it bu=
t...=20
>     Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, I u=
se a old liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some valve =
lapping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. Clean it =
up good and then use your sealant of choice.
>     On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot < [email-masked]=
 mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> >         that means you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch=
, come back, mess around.=20
> >         On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Cronin < adcr=
[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> >         Folks
> >         Looking for some background information and recommendations on =
the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for eac=
h of you in your various engine re-builds.  And  any comments / observation=
s you choose to share either on or off list. The motor I am building has a =
89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a =
Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper and =
at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conv=
ersion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover=
.  Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guid=
es. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedestals.  BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A=
 head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things up and remove prior imper=
fections.  The head chambers have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp ed=
ges and even things out with a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each.  I =
am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005=
 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on the head side of the gasket that =
will be sprayed with a copper coating on each side.  Gasket Works sent a se=
t of Fo8 individual gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusio=
n of 0.0025 to 0.003.  Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1=
+/- . Looking forward to as many responses as possible to assist in trying =
to get this critical step as close to right as I can.
> >         DC
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I like the meth=
od of using an old liner to polish the gasket surface.&nbsp; Although a lig=
ht amount would be nice just to get a good clear image of the surface condi=
tion.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
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olor: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I used the red,=
 High-Tack spray-on sealant with a copper gasket when I put together my fir=
st and last and only TR engine build, which is now apart for a refresh afte=
r 19 race weekends and a total of 5,500 miles.&nbsp; I sprayed both sides o=
f the gasket, let it tack up and set them in place.&nbsp; I haven't pulled =
the liners.&nbsp; I thought I'd just replace the rings and bearings, check =
and polish the crank and refresh the valves and seats and put it back toget=
her.</span>
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I think Marcel =
has made a good point that it's possible no sealant is necessary if all con=
ditions are otherwise excellent.&nbsp; The sealant is just added insurance.=
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     It seems that about all sealants are performing well on the Fo8 gasket=
s, maybe because there is no need for it? So, most products won't do any ha=
rm, but be aware of anaerobic gasket makers : these can cure very fast, for=
ming an elastic layer of some thou thickness : the Fo8 gaskets won't leak, =
but the cylinderhead gasket will.
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     <strong>Onderwerp: </strong>Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gasket=
s
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      Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyone does it bu=
t...&nbsp;
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      Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, I u=
se a old liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some valve =
lapping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. Clean it =
up good and then use your sealant of choice.
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      Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer
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er">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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         hylomar.
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         &nbsp;
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         never sets up solid like silicone.
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ome back, mess around.&nbsp;
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         leave it overnight and take up the task again tomorrow.
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         the best gasket dressing ever invented.
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             Looking for some background information and recommendations on=
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ch of you in your various engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &nbsp;any comments / =
observations you choose to share either on or off list. The motor I am buil=
ding has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / b=
olts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a ATI Super =
Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, a=
n HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy=
 back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru M=
ang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedestals. &nbsp;BPNW 270 d=
uration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things up a=
nd remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambers have been mildly wor=
ked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with a resulting chamber =
volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022=
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e head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper coating on eac=
h side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has al=
lowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. &nbsp;Am aiming a=
t a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many r=
esponses as possible to assist in trying to get this critical step as close=
 to right as I can.
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Frank, indeed Hylomar is a right sealant and Silicone is not. Hylomar is a =
not-setting, non hardening product that allows metal to metal contact even =
when the cylinderhead is torqued down only after one day.=20
The purpose of the silicone sealants is to form a sheet when cured (by the =
moisture in the air) and cannot be compressed after some time. The Permatex=
 brand : the brown stuff is ok, but Permatex blue RTV silicone is not. Curi=
ng by moisture is slower than anaerobic curing : one could apply silicone t=
o the Fo8 gaskets and torque the cylhead down immediately, but that is taki=
ng risks and it is not the intended use of RTV silicone.=20
Marcel=20

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hylomar.=20

Frank=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div> <!--StartFragment--><div>Frank, i=
ndeed Hylomar is a right sealant and Silicone is not. Hylomar is a not-sett=
ing, non hardening product that allows metal to metal contact even when the=
 cylinderhead is torqued down only after one day.</div><div>The purpose of =
the silicone sealants is to form a sheet when cured (by the moisture in the=
 air) and cannot be compressed after some time. The Permatex brand : the br=
own stuff is ok, but Permatex blue RTV silicone is not. Curing by moisture =
is slower than anaerobic curing : one could apply silicone to the Fo8 gaske=
ts and torque the cylhead down immediately, but that is taking risks and it=
 is not the intended use of RTV silicone.</div><div>Marcel</div><div><br st=
yle=3D"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; f=
ont-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans=
: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space=
: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; bac=
kground-color: #fdfdfd; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration=
-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;" data-mce-style=3D"color: =
#000000; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.=
3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-ca=
ps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-alig=
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ws: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:=
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</div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HE=
ADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Trium=
ph List" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, "fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,=
 "Dan Cronin" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Zondag 7 febr=
uari 2021 02:30:33<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8=
 gaskets<br></div><br><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div class=3D"yd=
pa6a2aedcyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:'helvetica neue' , 'helveti=
ca' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:16px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">hylomar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">never sets up solid like silicone.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">that mean=
s you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back, mess aro=
und.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">leave it overnight and take up the task ag=
ain tomorrow.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the best gas=
ket dressing ever invented.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Frank</div><br>
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                    On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Croni=
n &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385"><div>Folks<div cl=
ass=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">Looking for some background information an=
d recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems t=
o have worked for each of you in your various engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &=
nbsp;any comments / observations you choose to share either on or off list.=
 The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along wi=
th Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the fro=
nt with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with=
 diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.=
11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 ov=
ersize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedesta=
ls. &nbsp;BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly=
 to true things up and remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambers =
have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with =
a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on installin=
g Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D com=
pression rings on the head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a c=
opper coating on each side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual=
 gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.00=
3. &nbsp;Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking =
forward to as many responses as possible to assist in trying to get this cr=
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The Japanese motorcycle manufacturers solved the fundamental =
gasket-enhancement issue long ago, with two products that perform like =
Hylomar but IMHO are a bit better. Yamaha called them Yamabond #4 and =
#5. The product is actually made by Threebond, and about every MC =
company uses them and private labels the stuff, including Ducati. #4 is =
a heavier consistency and can be used in gasket-less applications. #5 is =
thin, flexible and non-hardening and works well for coating gaskets. It =
won=E2=80=99t tear thin paper gaskets during disassembly. Great stuff.=20=

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 9:45 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Frank, indeed Hylomar is a right sealant and Silicone is not. Hylomar =
is a not-setting, non hardening product that allows metal to metal =
contact even when the cylinderhead is torqued down only after one day.
> The purpose of the silicone sealants is to form a sheet when cured (by =
the moisture in the air) and cannot be compressed after some time. The =
Permatex brand : the brown stuff is ok, but Permatex blue RTV silicone =
is not. Curing by moisture is slower than anaerobic curing : one could =
apply silicone to the Fo8 gaskets and torque the cylhead down =
immediately, but that is taking risks and it is not the intended use of =
RTV silicone.
> Aan: "Triumph List" <[email-masked]>, "fot" =
<[email-masked]>, "Dan Cronin" <[email-masked]>
> Verzonden: Zondag 7 februari 2021 02:30:33
back, mess around.=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">The =
Japanese motorcycle manufacturers solved the fundamental =
gasket-enhancement issue long ago, with two products that perform like =
Hylomar but IMHO are a bit better. Yamaha called them Yamabond #4 and =
#5. The product is actually made by Threebond, and about every MC =
company uses them and private labels the stuff, including Ducati. #4 is =
a heavier consistency and can be used in gasket-less applications. #5 is =
thin, flexible and non-hardening and works well for coating gaskets. It =
won=E2=80=99t tear thin paper gaskets during disassembly. Great =
stuff.&nbsp;<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb 7, 2021, at 9:45 AM, =
van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""> <!--StartFragment--><div =
class=3D"">Frank, indeed Hylomar is a right sealant and Silicone is not. =
Hylomar is a not-setting, non hardening product that allows metal to =
metal contact even when the cylinderhead is torqued down only after one =
day.</div><div class=3D"">The purpose of the silicone sealants is to =
form a sheet when cured (by the moisture in the air) and cannot be =
compressed after some time. The Permatex brand : the brown stuff is ok, =
but Permatex blue RTV silicone is not. Curing by moisture is slower than =
anaerobic curing : one could apply silicone to the Fo8 gaskets and =
torque the cylhead down immediately, but that is taking risks and it is =
not the intended use of RTV silicone.</div><div =
class=3D"">Marcel</div><div class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: =
rgb(253, 253, 253); text-decoration-thickness: initial;" =
data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: verdana, arial, =
helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #fdfdfd; =
text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; =
text-decoration-color: initial;" =
class=3D""><!--EndFragment--></div></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__" =
class=3D""><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Van: =
</b>"fot" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Aan: =
</b>"Triumph List" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, "fot" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, =
"Dan Cronin" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Verzonden: </b>Zondag 7 februari 2021 02:30:33<br class=3D""><b=
 class=3D"">Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 =
gaskets<br class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><div =
data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"ydpa6a2aedcyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:'helvetica =
neue' , 'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:16px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">hylomar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">never sets =
up solid like silicone.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">that means you =
have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back, mess =
around.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">leave it overnight and =
take up the task again tomorrow.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">the best gasket dressing =
ever invented.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Frank</div><br class=3D"">
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'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a" class=3D"">
               =20
                <div class=3D"">
                    On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan =
Cronin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <br class=3D"">
                <br class=3D"">
                <div class=3D""><div id=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Folks<div =
class=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">Looking for some background =
information and recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing =
compound that seems to have worked for each of you in your various =
engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &nbsp;any comments / observations you choose =
to share either on or off list. The motor I am building has a 89 mm =
piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a =
Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper =
and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an =
HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and =
alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize =
intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedestals. =
&nbsp;BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly =
to true things up and remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head =
chambers have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even =
things out with a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am =
planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =
=E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on the head side of the gasket =
that will be sprayed with a copper coating on each side. &nbsp;Gasket =
Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has allowed me to obtain =
a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. &nbsp;Am aiming at a compression =
ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many responses as =
possible to assist in trying to get this critical step as close to right =
as I can.</div><div class=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">DC</div><div =
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From: Joe Boruch via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 19:18:09 +0000 (UTC)

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 When I last raced my TR3 in 2012, the engine had been together for a coupl=
e years and I had been using Joe Gibbs=C2=A0 XP1 oil for probably 5 years.=
=C2=A0 Never had any problems with it dissolving the Aviation Permatex on t=
he rear seal enough to cause a leak, but I would find pieces of the sealant=
 on the oil pick-up screens.=C2=A0 The engine is back together and in the c=
ar to race this year, assembled again with the Aviation Permatex on the rea=
r seal.=C2=A0 I guess I will need to find another oil.=C2=A0 To save some r=
esearch time, does anyone have suggestions of oil that does not attack the =
Aviation Permatex?=C2=A0 =C2=A0I have been using Shaffers race oils in my M=
iata.=C2=A0 I will need to check with them about compatibility.=C2=A0 It wo=
uld make it easier to have just one flavor of oil in the garage and trailer=
.=C2=A0 Joe B.
    On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 10:49:28 AM EST, vfracing--- via Fot <fot@=
autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Great point, Paul; As both Dave and I have said in other threads, the Driv=
en/Joe Gibbs oil we use dissolves the Permatex Aviation cement popular for =
rear main cap side seals and some have indicated they use on the fo8 gasket=
s.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Ricco via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: Friends of Triumph <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2021 10:16 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets

FOT,

 hylomar.

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp5826b852yahoo-style-wrap" style=
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3px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">When I last raced my TR3 in =
2012, the engine had been together for a couple years and I had been using =
Joe Gibbs&nbsp; XP1 oil for probably 5 years.&nbsp; Never had any problems =
with it dissolving the Aviation Permatex on the rear seal enough to cause a=
 leak, but I would find pieces of the sealant on the oil pick-up screens.&n=
bsp; The engine is back together and in the car to race this year, assemble=
d again with the Aviation Permatex on the rear seal.&nbsp; I guess I will n=
eed to find another oil.&nbsp; To save some research time, does anyone have=
 suggestions of oil that does not attack the Aviation Permatex?&nbsp; &nbsp=
;I have been using Shaffers race oils in my Miata.&nbsp; I will need to che=
ck with them about compatibility.&nbsp; It would make it easier to have jus=
t one flavor of oil in the garage and trailer.&nbsp; Joe B.</div><div><br><=
/div>
       =20
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144c31yahoo_quoted">
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                    On Sunday, February 7, 2021, 10:49:28 AM EST, vfracing-=
-- via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><div><div style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;color:black;"><=
div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:=
black;">Great point, Paul; As both Dave and I have said in other threads, t=
he Driven/Joe Gibbs oil we use dissolves the Permatex Aviation cement popul=
ar for rear main cap side seals and some have indicated they use on the fo8=
 gaskets.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-----Orig=
inal Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: Paul Ricco via Fot &lt;fot@autox.=
team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: Friends of Triumph &lt;[email-masked]=
t&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2021 10:16 am<br clear=3D"none">S=
ubject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets<br clear=3D"none"><br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540yqt4192000133" id=
=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540yqt15038"><div id=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540">=
<div>FOT,<div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><br clear=3D"none" class=
=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"></div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"=
>I have one thought to add to the sealant conversation and I am not intendi=
ng to restart the entire oil debate by commenting on this. &nbsp; I know th=
at many on the list feel that Brad Penn is the only oil, and that is OK if =
that is your belief.</div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><br clear=
=3D"none" class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"></div><div class=3D"ydp59144c3=
1yiv2934124540">However, there are many good race oil choices on the market=
 and more being added every day. &nbsp;Some of the synthetic and synthetic =
blend race oils have an additive package in them that is very aggressive to=
 some of the traditional sealants. &nbsp;They will actually dissolve them e=
ven after they are cured.</div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"></div><div class=3D"ydp59=
144c31yiv2934124540">My tought here - &nbsp;if you have interest in trying =
a particular oil you should check with the oil manufacturers tech support r=
egarding sealant compatibility. &nbsp;Do some homework upfront and it will =
save you from having to tear down a fresh engine to re-seal your rear main =
gasket, oil pan, etc, etc.</div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><br=
 clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"></div><div class=3D"ydp5=
9144c31yiv2934124540">Just my two-sense on the sealant subject.</div><div c=
lass=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydp59144c31yi=
v2934124540"></div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540">Paul Ricco</div>=
<div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540yqt0102699441" id=3D"ydp59144c31yiv29=
34124540yqt90317"><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><div><br clear=3D=
"none" class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><blockquote class=3D"ydp59144c31y=
iv2934124540" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540">On Feb =
6, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydp=
59144c31yiv2934124540" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br clear=3D"none"=
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lass=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540yqt0102699441" id=3D"ydp59144c31yiv29341245=
40yqt79230"><div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><div class=3D"ydp5=
9144c31yiv2934124540" dir=3D"ltr"></div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124=
540" dir=3D"ltr">Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyone=
 does it but...&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540" dir=3D"l=
tr">Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, I use=
 a old liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some valve la=
pping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. Clean it up=
 good and then use your sealant of choice.</div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yi=
v2934124540" dir=3D"ltr">Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer</div><div cla=
ss=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540" dir=3D"ltr">Albuquerque NM</div><div class=
=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydp59=
144c31yiv2934124540">On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot &lt;<=
a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540" href=3D"mailto:fot@auto=
x.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><br clear=3D"non=
e" class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"></div><blockquote class=3D"ydp59144c3=
1yiv2934124540" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540" dir=
=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540ydpa6a2aedcyahoo-style-wrap"=
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e:16px;"><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"></div>
        <div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540" dir=3D"ltr">hylomar.</div><=
div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=
=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"></div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"=
 dir=3D"ltr">never sets up solid like silicone.</div><div class=3D"ydp59144=
c31yiv2934124540" dir=3D"ltr">that means you have time to set the liners an=
d go have a scotch, come back, mess around.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"ydp591=
44c31yiv2934124540" dir=3D"ltr">leave it overnight and take up the task aga=
in tomorrow.</div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540" dir=3D"ltr"><br c=
lear=3D"none" class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"></div><div class=3D"ydp591=
44c31yiv2934124540" dir=3D"ltr">the best gasket dressing ever invented.</di=
v><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" cl=
ass=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"></div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv29341245=
40" dir=3D"ltr">Frank</div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><br clea=
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        </div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540ydp2984ea6cyahoo_quoted=
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                <div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540">
                    On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Croni=
n &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540" href=3D"mailto:a=
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                <div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><br clear=3D"none" =
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                <div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540"><div class=3D"ydp59=
144c31yiv2934124540" id=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385=
"><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv2934124540">Folks<div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv=
2934124540ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">Looking for some background information=
 and recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seem=
s to have worked for each of you in your various engine re-builds. &nbsp;An=
d &nbsp;any comments / observations you choose to share either on or off li=
st. The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along=
 with Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the =
front with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel w=
ith diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife=
 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050=
 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pede=
stals. &nbsp;BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mos=
tly to true things up and remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambe=
rs have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out wi=
th a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on instal=
ling Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D =
compression rings on the head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with =
a copper coating on each side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individ=
ual gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0=
.003. &nbsp;Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looki=
ng forward to as many responses as possible to assist in trying to get this=
 critical step as close to right as I can.</div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yi=
v2934124540ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">DC</div><div class=3D"ydp59144c31yiv29=
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I=E2=80=99ve never really understood the passion for aviation permeatex. =
It=E2=80=99s unpleasant stuff and makes a mess. I think it=E2=80=99s =
just handy and comes in a big can so once you buy some it=E2=80=99s =
hanging around in your shop forever. I have a can that=E2=80=99s =
probably 30 years old=E2=80=94it will probably be around long after I =
kick. I never use it.=20

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 11:43 AM, John H. Hasty <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I used Yamabond  #4 & #5 for 15 years on my race bikes, no gaskets at =
all=E2=80=A6..great stuff.
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve never really understood the passion for aviation =
permeatex. It=E2=80=99s unpleasant stuff and makes a mess. I think =
it=E2=80=99s just handy and comes in a big can so once you buy some =
it=E2=80=99s hanging around in your shop forever. I have a can that=E2=80=99=
s probably 30 years old=E2=80=94it will probably be around long after I =
kick. I never use it.&nbsp;<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb 7, 2021, at 11:43 AM, =
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
14pt;" class=3D"">I used Yamabond &nbsp;#4 &amp; #5 for 15 years on my =
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span=
 class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Ponostyle via =
Fot<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Sunday, February 7, 2021 =
1:23 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Marcel Van Mulders &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Frank=
 Fisher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants =
used on Fo8 gaskets<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">The Japanese motorcycle manufacturers =
solved the fundamental gasket-enhancement issue long ago, with two =
products that perform like Hylomar but IMHO are a bit better. Yamaha =
called them Yamabond #4 and #5. The product is actually made by =
Threebond, and about every MC company uses them and private labels the =
stuff, including Ducati. #4 is a heavier consistency and can be used in =
gasket-less applications. #5 is thin, flexible and non-hardening and =
works well for coating gaskets. It won=E2=80=99t tear thin paper gaskets =
during disassembly. Great stuff.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:=
 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">On Feb 7, 2021, at 9:45 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Frank, indeed Hylomar is a =
right sealant and Silicone is not. Hylomar is a not-setting, non =
hardening product that allows metal to metal contact even when the =
cylinderhead is torqued down only after one day.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">The purpose of the silicone sealants is to form =
a sheet when cured (by the moisture in the air) and cannot be compressed =
after some time. The Permatex brand : the brown stuff is ok, but =
Permatex blue RTV silicone is not. Curing by moisture is slower than =
anaerobic curing : one could apply silicone to the Fo8 gaskets and =
torque the cylhead down immediately, but that is taking risks and it is =
not the intended use of RTV silicone.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Marcel<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; widows: 2; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; =
word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D"MsoNormal" =
align=3D"center" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center" id=3D"zwchr" =
class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Verdana, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Van:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">"fot" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color:=
 blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Aan:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>"Triumph List" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, =
"fot" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, "Dan =
Cronin" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Verzonden:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Zondag 7 februari 2021 =
02:30:33<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Onderwerp:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants =
used on Fo8 gaskets<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">hylomar.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">never sets up solid like =
silicone.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">that means you have time =
to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back, mess =
around.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div=
 style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">leave it overnight and =
take up the task again tomorrow.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">the best gasket dressing =
ever invented.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Frank<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp2984ea6cyahoo_quoted_3384257547" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" =
class=3D"">On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Cronin =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div class=3D""><div =
id=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" =
class=3D"">Folks<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" =
class=3D"">Looking for some background information and recommendations =
on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked =
for each of you in your various engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &nbsp;any =
comments / observations you choose to share either on or off list. The =
motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with =
Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the =
front with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy =
Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive =
shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless =
Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S =
roller rockers on alloy pedestals. &nbsp;BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A =
head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things up and remove prior =
imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambers have been mildly worked to smooth =
any sharp edges and even things out with a resulting chamber volume of =
60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022 copper =
gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on the =
head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper coating on =
each side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that =
has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. &nbsp;Am =
aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward =
to as many responses as possible to assist in trying to get this =
critical step as close to right as I can.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D"">DC<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
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 I made a lapping tool out of a liner as well.Cut the cylinder & base off a=
nd welded a bridge piece across it with a big nut in the center to get a sp=
eed handle & socket on.Good old copper-coat to seal.Never any concerns at a=
ll w/figure-8s, just need good mating surfaces, correct liner height, and p=
roper torque.
Glen Efinger
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Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets

  I like the method of using an old liner to polish the gasket surface.=C2=
=A0 Although a light amount would be nice just to get a good clear image of=
 the surface condition.=C2=A0=C2=A0   I used the red, High-Tack spray-on se=
alant with a copper gasket when I put together my first and last and only T=
R engine build, which is now apart for a refresh after 19 race weekends and=
 a total of 5,500 miles.=C2=A0 I sprayed both sides of the gasket, let it t=
ack up and set them in place.=C2=A0 I haven't pulled the liners.=C2=A0 I th=
ought I'd just replace the rings and bearings, check and polish the crank a=
nd refresh the valves and seats and put it back together.   I think Marcel =
has made a good point that it's possible no sealant is necessary if all con=
ditions are otherwise excellent.=C2=A0 The sealant is just added insurance.=
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performing well on the Fo8 gaskets, maybe because there is no need for it? =
So, most products won't do any harm, but be aware of anaerobic gasket maker=
s : these can cure very fast, forming an elastic layer of some thou thickne=
ss : the Fo8 gaskets won't leak, but the cylinderhead gasket will.   Marcel=
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  Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyone does it but...=
=C2=A0   Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, =
I use a old liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some val=
ve lapping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. Clean =
it up good and then use your sealant of choice.   Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=
=80=9D Hilyer   Albuquerque NM  =20
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    hylomar.   =C2=A0   never sets up solid like silicone.   that means you=
 have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back, mess around.=
=C2=A0   leave it overnight and take up the task again tomorrow.   =C2=A0  =
 the best gasket dressing ever invented.   =C2=A0   Frank      On Friday, F=
ebruary 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Cronin < [email-masked]> wrote: =
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    Folks  Looking for some background information and recommendations on t=
he preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for each=
 of you in your various engine re-builds. =C2=A0And =C2=A0any comments / ob=
servations you choose to share either on or off list. The motor I am buildi=
ng has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bol=
ts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Da=
mper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an =
HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy b=
ack cover. =C2=A0Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Man=
g. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedestals. =C2=A0BPNW 270 dur=
ation cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things up and=
 remove prior imperfections. =C2=A0The head chambers have been mildly worke=
d to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with a resulting chamber vo=
lume of 60.5cc each. =C2=A0I am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022 c=
opper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on the =
head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper coating on each =
side. =C2=A0Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has allo=
wed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. =C2=A0Am aiming at =
a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many res=
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<div> <font size=3D"2">I made a lapping tool out of a liner as well.</font>=
</div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Cut the cylinder &amp; base off and welded a bridge p=
iece across it with a big nut in the center to get a speed handle &amp; soc=
ket on.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Good old copper-coat to seal.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Never any concerns at all w/figure-8s, just need good=
 mating surfaces, correct liner height, and proper torque.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2"><br>
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<div><font size=3D"2">Glen Efinger</font><br>
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From: DAVE HOGYE via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked]; van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot &lt;fot@au=
tox.team.net&gt;; Greg Hilyer &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2021 12:06 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets<br>
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   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">I like the method =
of using an old liner to polish the gasket surface.&nbsp; Although a light =
amount would be nice just to get a good clear image of the surface conditio=
n.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
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   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">I used the red, Hi=
gh-Tack spray-on sealant with a copper gasket when I put together my first =
and last and only TR engine build, which is now apart for a refresh after 1=
9 race weekends and a total of 5,500 miles.&nbsp; I sprayed both sides of t=
he gasket, let it tack up and set them in place.&nbsp; I haven't pulled the=
 liners.&nbsp; I thought I'd just replace the rings and bearings, check and=
 polish the crank and refresh the valves and seats and put it back together=
.</span>
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   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">I think Marcel has=
 made a good point that it's possible no sealant is necessary if all condit=
ions are otherwise excellent.&nbsp; The sealant is just added insurance.</s=
pan>
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     It seems that about all sealants are performing well on the Fo8 gasket=
s, maybe because there is no need for it? So, most products won't do any ha=
rm, but be aware of anaerobic gasket makers : these can cure very fast, for=
ming an elastic layer of some thou thickness : the Fo8 gaskets won't leak, =
but the cylinderhead gasket will.
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      Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, I u=
se a old liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some valve =
lapping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. Clean it =
up good and then use your sealant of choice.
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      <br clear=3D"none">On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot &=
lt;
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lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
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         never sets up solid like silicone.
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         that means you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, c=
ome back, mess around.&nbsp;
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         leave it overnight and take up the task again tomorrow.
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             Looking for some background information and recommendations on=
 the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for ea=
ch of you in your various engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &nbsp;any comments / =
observations you choose to share either on or off list. The motor I am buil=
ding has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / b=
olts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the front with a ATI Super =
Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, a=
n HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy=
 back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru M=
ang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedestals. &nbsp;BPNW 270 d=
uration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly to true things up a=
nd remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambers have been mildly wor=
ked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with a resulting chamber =
volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022=
 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D compression rings on th=
e head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper coating on eac=
h side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets that has al=
lowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003. &nbsp;Am aiming a=
t a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many r=
esponses as possible to assist in trying to get this critical step as close=
 to right as I can.
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I suspect the reason so many sealants are successful is that it's not 
really required.  I personally use Gaskacinch on that surface, used to 
use it on head gaskets too before I switched to Cometic head gaskets.

Regards, Tony Drews

On 2/7/2021 11:06 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:
> I like the method of using an old liner to polish the gasket surface. 
> Although a light amount would be nice just to get a good clear image 
> of the surface condition.
> I used the red, High-Tack spray-on sealant with a copper gasket when I 
> put together my first and last and only TR engine build, which is now 
> apart for a refresh after 19 race weekends and a total of 5,500 
> miles.  I sprayed both sides of the gasket, let it tack up and set 
> them in place.  I haven't pulled the liners. I thought I'd just 
> replace the rings and bearings, check and polish the crank and refresh 
> the valves and seats and put it back together.
> I think Marcel has made a good point that it's possible no sealant is 
> necessary if all conditions are otherwise excellent.  The sealant is 
> just added insurance.
> Dave H.
>> On 02/07/2021 12:44 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot 
>> It seems that about all sealants are performing well on the Fo8 
>> gaskets, maybe because there is no need for it? So, most products 
>> won't do any harm, but be aware of anaerobic gasket makers : these 
>> can cure very fast, forming an elastic layer of some thou thickness : 
>> the Fo8 gaskets won't leak, but the cylinderhead gasket will.
>> Marcel
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *Van: *"fot" <[email-masked]>
>> *Cc: *"Triumph List" <[email-masked]>, "fot" 
>> <[email-masked]>
>> *Verzonden: *Zondag 7 februari 2021 03:17:01
>> *Onderwerp: *Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets
>> Don’t know if it’s my trick or if everyone does it but...
>> Once I’ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, I use a old 
>> liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some valve 
>> lapping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. 
>> Greg “Lunker” Hilyer
>> On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot < [email-masked] 
>>
>>     hylomar.
>>     that means you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch,
>>     come back, mess around.
>>     On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Cronin <
>>
>>
>>     Folks
>>     Looking for some background information and recommendations on
>>     the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have
>>     worked for each of you in your various engine re-builds.  And
>>      any comments / observations you choose to share either on or off
>>     list. The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit
>>     from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main
>>     crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper and at the
>>     rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA
>>     conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and
>>     alloy back cover.  Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize
>>     intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy
>>     pedestals.  BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040
>>     removed mostly to true things up and remove prior imperfections.
>>      The head chambers have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp
>>     edges and even things out with a resulting chamber volume of
>>     60.5cc each.  I am planning on installing Gasket Works 0.022
>>     copper gasket with their 0.005 “O” compression rings on the head
>>     side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a copper coating on
>>     each side.  Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets
>>     that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to
>>     0.003.  Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- .
>>     Looking forward to as many responses as possible to assist in
>>     trying to get this critical step as close to right as I can.
>>     DC
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    <p>I suspect the reason so many sealants are successful is that it's
      not really required.  I personally use Gaskacinch on that surface,
      used to use it on head gaskets too before I switched to Cometic
      head gaskets.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony Drews<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/7/2021 11:06 AM, DAVE HOGYE via
      Fot wrote:<br>
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      <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
        helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"> <span
          style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I like the
          method of using an old liner to polish the gasket surface. 
          Although a light amount would be nice just to get a good clear
          image of the surface condition.  </span> </div>
      <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
        helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"> <span
          style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I used the
          red, High-Tack spray-on sealant with a copper gasket when I
          put together my first and last and only TR engine build, which
          is now apart for a refresh after 19 race weekends and a total
          of 5,500 miles.  I sprayed both sides of the gasket, let it
          tack up and set them in place.  I haven't pulled the liners. 
          I thought I'd just replace the rings and bearings, check and
          polish the crank and refresh the valves and seats and put it
          back together.</span> </div>
      <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
        helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"> <span
          style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I think
          Marcel has made a good point that it's possible no sealant is
          necessary if all conditions are otherwise excellent.  The
          sealant is just added insurance.</span> </div>
      <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
        helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"> <span
          style="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Dave H.</span>
      </div>
      <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
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        <div> On 02/07/2021 12:44 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote: </div>
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          <div> It seems that about all sealants are performing well on
            the Fo8 gaskets, maybe because there is no need for it? So,
            most products won't do any harm, but be aware of anaerobic
            gasket makers : these can cure very fast, forming an elastic
            layer of some thou thickness : the Fo8 gaskets won't leak,
            but the cylinderhead gasket will. </div>
          <div> Marcel </div>
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          <div data-marker="__HEADERS__"> <strong>Van: </strong>"fot"
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            <strong>Cc: </strong>"Triumph List"
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            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> <br>
            <strong>Verzonden: </strong>Zondag 7 februari 2021 03:17:01
            <br>
            <strong>Onderwerp: </strong>Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on
            Fo8 gaskets </div>
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            <div dir="ltr">   </div>
            <div dir="ltr"> Don’t know if it’s my trick or if everyone
              does it but...  </div>
            <div dir="ltr"> Once I’ve got the liner landing as clean as
              I can get it, I use a old liner as a hone and by twisting
              is back and forth with some valve lapping compound, get a
              nice shiny ring on the block mating face. Clean it up good
              and then use your sealant of choice. </div>
            <div dir="ltr"> Greg “Lunker” Hilyer </div>
            <div dir="ltr"> Albuquerque NM </div>
            <div dir="ltr"> <br>
              On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot &lt; <a
                href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                rel="noopener" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote: <br>
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                  style="font-family: 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' ,
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                  <div dir="ltr"> hylomar. </div>
                  <div dir="ltr">   </div>
                  <div dir="ltr"> never sets up solid like silicone. </div>
                  <div dir="ltr"> that means you have time to set the
                    liners and go have a scotch, come back, mess
                    around.  </div>
                  <div dir="ltr"> leave it overnight and take up the
                    task again tomorrow. </div>
                  <div dir="ltr">   </div>
                  <div dir="ltr"> the best gasket dressing ever
                    invented. </div>
                  <div dir="ltr">   </div>
                  <div dir="ltr"> Frank </div>
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                    <div> On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST,
                      Dan Cronin &lt; <a
                        href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
                        rel="noopener" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
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                        <div> Folks
                          <div class="ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385"> Looking
                            for some background information and
                            recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket
                            sealing compound that seems to have worked
                            for each of you in your various engine
                            re-builds.  And  any comments / observations
                            you choose to share either on or off list.
                            The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston
                            and liner kit from BFE along with Corrello
                            rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank
                            connected at the front with a ATI Super
                            Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy
                            Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA
                            conversion with alloy drive shaft to a
                            Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover.
                             Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 oversize
                            intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller
                            rockers on alloy pedestals.  BPNW 270
                            duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040
                            removed mostly to true things up and remove
                            prior imperfections.  The head chambers have
                            been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges
                            and even things out with a resulting chamber
                            volume of 60.5cc each.  I am planning on
                            installing Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket
                            with their 0.005 “O” compression rings on
                            the head side of the gasket that will be
                            sprayed with a copper coating on each side.
                             Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual
                            gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a
                            liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003.  Am
                            aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75
                            to 1+/- . Looking forward to as many
                            responses as possible to assist in trying to
                            get this critical step as close to right as
                            I can. </div>
                          <div class="ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385"> DC </div>
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From: Joe via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 14:43:33 -0500

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Where did the information about a Driven oils not being compatible with Perm=
atex Aviation come from?  I contacted Driven and they are not aware of any i=
ncompatibility with Aviation Permatex.  Joe B. =20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2021, at 10:49 AM, vfracing--- via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
> =EF=BB=BF
en/Joe Gibbs oil we use dissolves the Permatex Aviation cement popular for r=
ear main cap side seals and some have indicated they use on the fo8 gaskets.=

> I have one thought to add to the sealant conversation and I am not intendi=
ng to restart the entire oil debate by commenting on this.   I know that man=
y on the list feel that Brad Penn is the only oil, and that is OK if that is=
 your belief.
>=20
> However, there are many good race oil choices on the market and more being=
 added every day.  Some of the synthetic and synthetic blend race oils have a=
n additive package in them that is very aggressive to some of the traditiona=
l sealants.  They will actually dissolve them even after they are cured.
>=20
> My tought here -  if you have interest in trying a particular oil you shou=
ld check with the oil manufacturers tech support regarding sealant compatibi=
lity.  Do some homework upfront and it will save you from having to tear dow=
n a fresh engine to re-seal your rear main gasket, oil pan, etc, etc.
>> On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=

> Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, I use a o=
ld liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some valve lapping=
 compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. Clean it up good a=
nd then use your sealant of choice.
e:
>> that means you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come bac=
k, mess around.=20
>> On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Cronin <[email-masked].=
com> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> Folks
>> Looking for some background information and recommendations on the prefer=
red Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for each of you in=
 your various engine re-builds.  And  any comments / observations you choose=
 to share either on or off list. The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston a=
nd liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy ma=
in crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a=
 Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy=
 drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover.  Stainless Steel=
 valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rock=
ers on alloy pedestals.  BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 r=
emoved mostly to true things up and remove prior imperfections.  The head ch=
ambers have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out=
 with a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each.  I am planning on installin=
g Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D comp=
ression rings on the head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a cop=
per coating on each side.  Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual gaskets=
 that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.003.  Am ai=
ming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forward to as m=
any responses as possible to assist in trying to get this critical step as c=
lose to right as I can.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Where did the information about a Driven oi=
ls not being compatible with Permatex Aviation come from? &nbsp;I contacted D=
riven and they are not aware of any incompatibility with Aviation Permatex. &=
nbsp;Joe B. &nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 7, 2021, at 10:49 AM, vfracing=
--- via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-size:10pt=
;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:black;"><div style=3D"font-fam=
ily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">Great point, Pau=
l; As both Dave and I have said in other threads, the Driven/Joe Gibbs oil w=
e use dissolves the Permatex Aviation cement popular for rear main cap side s=
eals and some have indicated they use on the fo8 gaskets.<br><br><br>-----Or=
iginal Message-----<br>From: Paul Ricco via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<b=
r>To: Friends of Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 202=
1 10:16 am<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets<br><br></=
div><div id=3D"yiv2896602717"><div>FOT,<div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clea=
r=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">I have=
 one thought to add to the sealant conversation and I am not intending to re=
start the entire oil debate by commenting on this. &nbsp; I know that many o=
n the list feel that Brad Penn is the only oil, and that is OK if that is yo=
ur belief.</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv=
2896602717"></div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">However, there are many good r=
ace oil choices on the market and more being added every day. &nbsp;Some of t=
he synthetic and synthetic blend race oils have an additive package in them t=
hat is very aggressive to some of the traditional sealants. &nbsp;They will a=
ctually dissolve them even after they are cured.</div><div class=3D"yiv28966=
02717"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div><div class=3D"yiv289=
6602717">My tought here - &nbsp;if you have interest in trying a particular o=
il you should check with the oil manufacturers tech support regarding sealan=
t compatibility. &nbsp;Do some homework upfront and it will save you from ha=
ving to tear down a fresh engine to re-seal your rear main gasket, oil pan, e=
tc, etc.</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv28=
96602717"></div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">Just my two-sense on the sealan=
t subject.</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv=
2896602717"></div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">Paul Ricco</div><div class=3D=
"yiv2896602717yqt0102699441" id=3D"yiv2896602717yqt90317"><div class=3D"yiv2=
896602717"><div><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"><blockquote class=
=3D"yiv2896602717" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">On Feb 6, 2021=
, at 8:17 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer=
" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2896602717" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:</div><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717Apple-interchang=
e-newline"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div></blockquote></div></div></div=
></div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717yqt0102699441" id=3D"yiv2896602717yqt79230=
"><div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr"=
></div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=
=99s my trick or if everyone does it but...&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv2896=
602717" dir=3D"ltr">Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I ca=
n get it, I use a old liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with=
 some valve lapping compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face=
. Clean it up good and then use your sealant of choice.</div><div class=3D"y=
iv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer</div><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">Albuquerque NM</div><div class=3D"yiv289660=
2717" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717">On Feb 6, 2021,=
 at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer=
" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2896602717" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"none" c=
lass=3D"yiv2896602717"></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv2896602717" type=3D"cit=
e"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717ydpa6=
a2aedcyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Aria=
l, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div>
        <div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">hylomar.</div><div class=3D=
"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div=
><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">never sets up solid like silicone.=
</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">that means you have time to s=
et the liners and go have a scotch, come back, mess around.&nbsp;</div><div c=
lass=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">leave it overnight and take up the task a=
gain tomorrow.</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"no=
ne" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=3D"ltr">t=
he best gasket dressing ever invented.</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div><div class=3D"yiv2=
896602717" dir=3D"ltr">Frank</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"=
none" class=3D"yiv2896602717"></div>
       =20
        </div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717ydp2984ea6cyahoo_quoted" id=3D"yiv2=
896602717ydp2984ea6cyahoo_quoted_3384257547">
            <div class=3D"yiv2896602717" style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neu=
e', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div class=3D"yiv2896602717">
                    On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Cronin=
 &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2896=
602717" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv=
2896602717"></div>
                <div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"yiv=
2896602717"></div>
                <div class=3D"yiv2896602717"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717" id=
=3D"yiv2896602717ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385"><div class=3D"yiv2896602717">Folk=
s<div class=3D"yiv2896602717ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">Looking for some backg=
round information and recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing co=
mpound that seems to have worked for each of you in your various engine re-b=
uilds. &nbsp;And &nbsp;any comments / observations you choose to share eithe=
r on or off list. The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit f=
rom BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank conne=
cted at the front with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy=
 Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft t=
o a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves w=
ith 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on al=
loy pedestals. &nbsp;BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 remo=
ved mostly to true things up and remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head c=
hambers have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things ou=
t with a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on ins=
talling Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D=
 compression rings on the head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a=
 copper coating on each side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individua=
l gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.00=
3. &nbsp;Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking f=
orward to as many responses as possible to assist in trying to get this crit=
ical step as close to right as I can.</div><div class=3D"yiv2896602717ydp298=
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From: Joe Boruch via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 21:19:59 +0000 (UTC)

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 Thanks David.=C2=A0 Driven says that their oils should not cause your issu=
e, but they think you may have an issue with fuel dilution.=C2=A0 They did =
suggest not to use the Aviation Permatex, since it can be affected by aroma=
tic solvents (which is what gasoline is).=C2=A0 I looked at the instruction=
s for Permatex Indian Head gasket shellac and it does not say that it is af=
fected by aromatic solvents.=C2=A0 The instructions for Aviation Permatex s=
ay that is affected by aromatic solvents.=C2=A0 Looks like for my next buil=
d that I will go back to using Indian Head (if it has not been deemed to be=
 un PC by then).=C2=A0=C2=A0
Thanks for bringing this issue to light.=C2=A0 Joe B.

    On Monday, February 8, 2021, 02:57:29 PM EST, David Gott <triumphsix@ya=
hoo.com> wrote: =20
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 Hi Joe,
Here=E2=80=99s some pictures of the felts in my engine after being washed c=
lean by Driven XP3. =C2=A0You can see the cement is washed out of the felts=
 upon removal, and also the permatex parted along the seam of the block/cap=
. =C2=A0 Never happened before running the oil. =C2=A0Hondabond held up jus=
t fine afterwards.

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Thanks David.&nbsp; Driven s=
ays that their oils should not cause your issue, but they think you may hav=
e an issue with fuel dilution.&nbsp; They did suggest not to use the Aviati=
on Permatex, since it can be affected by <span><span style=3D"color: rgb(38=
, 40, 42); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">arom=
atic solvents (which is what gasoline is)</span></span>.&nbsp; I looked at =
the instructions for Permatex Indian Head gasket shellac and it does not sa=
y that it is affected by aromatic solvents.&nbsp; The instructions for Avia=
tion Permatex say that is affected by aromatic solvents.&nbsp; Looks like f=
or my next build that I will go back to using Indian Head (if it has not be=
en deemed to be un PC by then).&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
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                    On Monday, February 8, 2021, 02:57:29 PM EST, David Got=
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Hi Joe,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Here=E2=80=99s some pictures of t=
he felts in my engine after being washed clean by Driven XP3. &nbsp;You can=
 see the cement is washed out of the felts upon removal, and also the perma=
tex parted along the seam of the block/cap. &nbsp; Never happened before ru=
nning the oil. &nbsp;Hondabond held up just fine afterwards.</div><div><br =
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