Subject: Re: [Fot] Intake/Exhaust manifold gasket, question for Mordy D

From: Tony Drews via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 16:54:53 -0600

Someone asked me how I cut these and I thought it might be helpful to 
describe:

I just use a sharp knife - one of those with the break off blades and a 
fairly thin blade.  I cut the outline first, cut undersized holes for 
intake / exhaust, stick it on my head and let the ports guide the blade 
edge as I carve them to size.  Doesn't take me as long as described 
below, but is a bit fiddly.  It takes multiple passes to cut through the 
material, if you're patient it's not too bad.

- Tony

On 2/2/2021 3:49 PM, Jim Gray wrote:
> Like Tony I have to make my own. We both use the cannon intake manifolds for the dual DCOE's. Nothing else will seal dependably.
> Making new intake/exhaust gaskets for my car is something I really dread. Using the composite metal / fiber gasket material can get down right bloody and quite
> time consuming. I can assemble an entire engine in the time it takes me to make a set of gaskets.
>
> Mordy, if your reading this I have to ask if you have ever made copper gaskets for this purpose. It's far easier/faster to cut the fiber gasket material alone than the metal/fiber material
> I always use. I would be inclined to try my own composite gaskets if I had pre-cut copper gaskets to add to home-cut fiber patterns.
> I use your head gaskets by the way.
>
> Jim G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Tony Drews via Fot
> Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 2:06 PM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Intake/Exhaust manifold gasket
>
> I use Remflex in my TR-4 because I need the gap sealing characteristics.  I make my  own from sheet material they sell because the intake manifold holes on the pre-cut ones are too large for my use. However they are NOT reusable.
>
> Regards, Tony Drews
>
> On 2/2/2021 2:42 PM, Michael Moore via Fot wrote:
>> I have not had those problems with the high-performance set, but I don’t reuse them.
>>
>> I have not used Remflex, the they say they can be reused. But they are not cheap, that’s why I but a lot of the one Moss sells.
>>
>> http://catalog.remflex.com/TRIUMPH_Exhaust_Gasket_p/20-001.htm
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mike
>>
>> Michael T. Moore, CPA
>> 3255 West 26th Street
>> Erie, PA 16506
>>
>> Phone:  814-616-8652  ext 100
>> Fax:        888-865-5279
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>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of R. John Lye via
>> Fot
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 3:14 PM
>> To: [email-masked]
>> Subject: [Fot] Intake/Exhaust manifold gasket
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have recently had to install and remove a header several times for my TR-3A, and discovered that the Moss Motors "high performance" intake/exhaust manifold gasket had disintegrated, despite not having even started the engine yet.  So, I am looking for suggestions for a better solution.  Any thoughts or suggestions?
>> Thanks in advance.
>>    
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
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From: "John H. Hasty via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 23:16:38 +0000

I suppose you cut several sets during the winter to allow for those track rebuilds during the season, correct?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2021, at 5:59 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Someone asked me how I cut these and I thought it might be helpful to describe:
> 
> I just use a sharp knife - one of those with the break off blades and a fairly thin blade.  I cut the outline first, cut undersized holes for intake / exhaust, stick it on my head and let the ports guide the blade edge as I carve them to size.  Doesn't take me as long as described below, but is a bit fiddly.  It takes multiple passes to cut through the material, if you're patient it's not too bad.
> 
> - Tony
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From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 23:24:06 +0000 (UTC)

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 Sort of like cutting the old Factory steel head gaskets to fit the liners,=
 except you can't cut those with a knife.=C2=A0 Did you know they were orig=
inally made to be part of a decompression kit for Europe, due to poor fuel =
quality there.=C2=A0 Someone (probably Kas or Group 44) came up with the id=
ea of using them to increase compression in race engines..
Regards.
Jack

    On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 6:00:16 PM EST, Tony Drews via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
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describe:

I just use a sharp knife - one of those with the break off blades and a=20
fairly thin blade.=C2=A0 I cut the outline first, cut undersized holes for=
=20
intake / exhaust, stick it on my head and let the ports guide the blade=20
edge as I carve them to size.=C2=A0 Doesn't take me as long as described=20
below, but is a bit fiddly.=C2=A0 It takes multiple passes to cut through t=
he=20
material, if you're patient it's not too bad.

- Tony

On 2/2/2021 3:49 PM, Jim Gray wrote:
> Like Tony I have to make my own. We both use the cannon intake manifolds =
for the dual DCOE's. Nothing else will seal dependably.
> Making new intake/exhaust gaskets for my car is something I really dread.=
 Using the composite metal / fiber gasket material can get down right blood=
y and quite
> time consuming. I can assemble an entire engine in the time it takes me t=
o make a set of gaskets.
>
> Mordy, if your reading this I have to ask if you have ever made copper ga=
skets for this purpose. It's far easier/faster to cut the fiber gasket mate=
rial alone than the metal/fiber material
> I always use. I would be inclined to try my own composite gaskets if I ha=
d pre-cut copper gaskets to add to home-cut fiber patterns.
> I use Remflex in my TR-4 because I need the gap sealing characteristics.=
=C2=A0 I make my=C2=A0 own from sheet material they sell because the intake=
 manifold holes on the pre-cut ones are too large for my use. However they =
are NOT reusable.
>> I have not had those problems with the high-performance set, but I don=
=E2=80=99t reuse them.
>>
>> I have not used Remflex, the they say they can be reused. But they are n=
ot cheap, that=E2=80=99s why I but a lot of the one Moss sells.
>> Phone:=C2=A0 814-616-8652=C2=A0 ext 100
>> Fax:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 888-865-5279
>> Email:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 [email-masked]
>>
>> This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privilege=
d information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of =
this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified t=
hat any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message i=
s strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immedia=
tely by return email and destroy this copy of this message.
>> I have recently had to install and remove a header several times for my =
TR-3A, and discovered that the Moss Motors "high performance" intake/exhaus=
t manifold gasket had disintegrated, despite not having even started the en=
gine yet.=C2=A0 So, I am looking for suggestions for a better solution.=C2=
=A0 Any thoughts or suggestions?
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunk=
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s via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Someone asked me how I cut these and =
I thought it might be helpful to <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">describe:<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I just use a sharp knife - =
one of those with the break off blades and a <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">fai=
rly thin blade.&nbsp; I cut the outline first, cut undersized holes for <br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">intake / exhaust, stick it on my head and let the p=
orts guide the blade <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">edge as I carve them to siz=
e.&nbsp; Doesn't take me as long as described <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">be=
low, but is a bit fiddly.&nbsp; It takes multiple passes to cut through the=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">material, if you're patient it's not too bad.<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">- Tony<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On 2/2/2021 3:49 PM, Jim Gray wrote:<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Like Tony I have to make my own. We both use =
the cannon intake manifolds for the dual DCOE's. Nothing else will seal dep=
endably.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Making new intake/exhaust gaskets f=
or my car is something I really dread. Using the composite metal / fiber ga=
sket material can get down right bloody and quite<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; time consuming. I can assemble an entire engine in the time it takes =
me to make a set of gaskets.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt; Mordy, if your reading this I have to ask if you have ever =
made copper gaskets for this purpose. It's far easier/faster to cut the fib=
er gasket material alone than the metal/fiber material<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; I always use. I would be inclined to try my own composite gasket=
s if I had pre-cut copper gaskets to add to home-cut fiber patterns.<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I use your head gaskets by the way.<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Jim G<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; -----Original Message-----<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; On Behalf Of Tony Drews via Fot<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent: Tu=
esday, February 2, 2021 2:06 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox=
.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [Fot] Intake/Exha=
ust manifold gasket<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; I use Remflex in my TR-4 because I need the gap sealing characterist=
ics.&nbsp; I make my&nbsp; own from sheet material they sell because the in=
take manifold holes on the pre-cut ones are too large for my use. However t=
hey are NOT reusable.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; Regards, Tony Drews<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt; On 2/2/2021 2:42 PM, Michael Moore via Fot wrote:<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I have not had those problems with the high-perfo=
rmance set, but I don=E2=80=99t reuse them.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&=
gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I have not used Remflex, the they sa=
y they can be reused. But they are not cheap, that=E2=80=99s why I but a lo=
t of the one Moss sells.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://catalog.remflex.com/TRIUMPH_Exhaust_G=
asket_p/20-001.htm" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://catalog.remfl=
ex.com/TRIUMPH_Exhaust_Gasket_p/20-001.htm</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt=
; Thanks<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Mike<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Michael T. Moore, CPA<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; 3255 West 26th Street<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt; Erie, PA 16506<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=
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><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I have recent=
ly had to install and remove a header several times for my TR-3A, and disco=
vered that the Moss Motors "high performance" intake/exhaust manifold gaske=
t had disintegrated, despite not having even started the engine yet.&nbsp; =
So, I am looking for suggestions for a better solution.&nbsp; Any thoughts =
or suggestions?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Thanks in advance.<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&=
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