Subject: [Fot] Maxpeedingrods

From: Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:57:43 -0400

Has anyone used these? They look like Carrillo knockoffs. 4340 steel, ARP bolts, shotpeened. Priced right.
Phil Gott

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yes, we used quite a few sets in our engine shop for high HP jap engines,
never triumph. quality seems reasonable. the only on-going issue we found
with cheap chinese rods like this is the big end tunnel is imperfectly
honed. it was not uncommon to have to re-size them. in fact we did a few
hundred for one importer at one time. we were never able to confirm if the
bolts were really ARP, or just copies

i know of a factory in Taiwan that lists thousands of different sets ,
including various TR rods, and will brand them with whatever name/logo you
want. their wholesale price is typcially US$45/rod, bought in quantities
like 50. They will provide steel specs if asked. They have some real
oddities , like 1mm longer or shorter for various applications, so its
obvious they make for performance applications, not just replacement for
mom and dad shopping carts

Terry
Australia

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<div dir=3D"ltr">yes, we used quite a few sets in our engine shop for high =
HP jap engines, never triumph. quality=C2=A0seems reasonable. the only on-g=
oing issue we found with cheap chinese rods like this is the big end tunnel=
 is imperfectly honed. it was not uncommon to have to re-size them. in fact=
 we did a few hundred=C2=A0for one importer at one time. we were never able=
 to confirm if the bolts were really ARP, or just copies<div><br></div><div=
>i know of a factory in Taiwan that lists thousands=C2=A0of different sets =
, including various TR rods, and will brand them with whatever name/logo yo=
u want. their wholesale price is typcially=C2=A0US$45/rod, bought=C2=A0in q=
uantities like 50. They will provide steel specs if asked. They have some r=
eal oddities , like 1mm longer or shorter for various applications, so its =
obvious they make for performance applications, not just replacement for mo=
m and dad shopping carts<br><div><br></div><div>Terry</div><div>Australia<b=
r></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 3:58 AM Phil Gott via Fot &lt;<a hr=
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><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Has anyone used these? T=
hey look like Carrillo knockoffs. 4340 steel, ARP bolts, shotpeened. Priced=
 right.<br>
Phil Gott<br>
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From: Chris Marx via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 23:54:43 +0200

I like the idea of Chinese ARP bolts.
Remembers me about real American Chop suey burgers.

Cheers
Chris

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Has anyone used these? They look like Carrillo knockoffs. 4340 steel, ARP
bolts, shotpeened. Priced right.
Phil Gott

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 19:28:52 -0600

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I=E2=80=99ve used them for 10 years with no problems. That said I run a =
6200 rpm motor but have had it to 7K when I forgot to=20

set a rev limiter and had a screeching 914/6 right next to me. ( as I =
was going by )

If your going to use them have the big ends checked for round and the =
wrist pins sized or at least checked.

I didn=E2=80=99t have any problem but I did hear a report from someone =
that the big ends on theirs weren=E2=80=99t perfectly round but =
correctable.

jim g

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Track via Fot
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To: Phil Gott <[email-masked]>
Cc: Friends Of Triumph <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Maxpeedingrods

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yes, we used quite a few sets in our engine shop for high HP jap =
engines, never triumph. quality seems reasonable. the only on-going =
issue we found with cheap chinese rods like this is the big end tunnel =
is imperfectly honed. it was not uncommon to have to re-size them. in =
fact we did a few hundred for one importer at one time. we were never =
able to confirm if the bolts were really ARP, or just copies

=20

i know of a factory in Taiwan that lists thousands of different sets , =
including various TR rods, and will brand them with whatever name/logo =
you want. their wholesale price is typcially US$45/rod, bought in =
quantities like 50. They will provide steel specs if asked. They have =
some real oddities , like 1mm longer or shorter for various =
applications, so its obvious they make for performance applications, not =
just replacement for mom and dad shopping carts

=20

Terry

Australia

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Has anyone used these? They look like Carrillo knockoffs. 4340 steel, =
ARP bolts, shotpeened. Priced right.
Phil Gott

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class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99ve used them for 10 years with no problems. =
That said I run a 6200 rpm motor but have had it to 7K when I forgot to =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>set a rev limiter and had a =
screeching 914/6 right next to me. ( as I was going by =
)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If your going to use them have the =
big ends checked for round and the wrist pins sized or at least =
checked.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I didn=E2=80=99t have any =
problem but I did hear a report from someone that the big ends on theirs =
weren=E2=80=99t perfectly round but correctable.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>jim g<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Fot =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Enquiries Road =
&amp; Track via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 18, 2020 3:37 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Phil Gott &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Friends Of Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Fot] Maxpeedingrods<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>yes, we =
used quite a few sets in our engine shop for high HP jap engines, never =
triumph. quality&nbsp;seems reasonable. the only on-going issue we found =
with cheap chinese rods like this is the big end tunnel is imperfectly =
honed. it was not uncommon to have to re-size them. in fact we did a few =
hundred&nbsp;for one importer at one time. we were never able to confirm =
if the bolts were really ARP, or just copies<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>i =
know of a factory in Taiwan that lists thousands&nbsp;of different sets =
, including various TR rods, and will brand them with whatever name/logo =
you want. their wholesale price is typcially&nbsp;US$45/rod, =
bought&nbsp;in quantities like 50. They will provide steel specs if =
asked. They have some real oddities , like 1mm longer or shorter for =
various applications, so its obvious they make for performance =
applications, not just replacement for mom and dad shopping =
carts<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Terry<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Australia<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 3:58 AM Phil Gott via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Has anyone used these? They look like =
Carrillo knockoffs. 4340 steel, ARP bolts, shotpeened. Priced =
right.<br>Phil Gott<br><br>Sent from my =
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From: Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 16:09:25 +1000

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i have a special con-rod re-sizing machine, its not a hone, but a grinder,
so we can get them perfect. Most production rods are honed and thats good
enough for most applications, but not if you are chasing perfection. Also,
hand honing on a machine designed for general applications like brake
cylinders etc , can be a disaster as they can looks good, but actually be
barrel shaped

Terry

On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:28 AM Jim Gray <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99ve used them for 10 years with no problems. That said I run a 6=
200 rpm
> motor but have had it to 7K when I forgot to
>
> set a rev limiter and had a screeching 914/6 right next to me. ( as I was
> going by )
>
> If your going to use them have the big ends checked for round and the
> I didn=E2=80=99t have any problem but I did hear a report from someone th=
at the
> big ends on theirs weren=E2=80=99t perfectly round but correctable.
>
> jim g
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Enquiries Road &
> Track via Fot
> *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2020 3:37 PM
> *To:* Phil Gott <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Friends Of Triumph <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Maxpeedingrods
>
>
>
> hundred for one importer at one time. we were never able to confirm if th=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">i have a special con-rod re-sizing machine, its not a hone=
, but a grinder, so we can get them perfect. Most production rods are honed=
 and thats good enough=C2=A0for most applications, but not if you are chasi=
ng perfection. Also, hand honing on a machine designed for general applicat=
ions like brake cylinders etc , can be a disaster as they can looks good, b=
ut actually be barrel shaped<div><br></div><div>Terry<br clear=3D"all"><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signatu=
re"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:28 AM Jim Gray &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:to=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail-m_-494601468647823749WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=
=80=99ve used them for 10 years with no problems. That said I run a 6200 rp=
m motor but have had it to 7K when I forgot to <u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">set a rev limiter and had a screeching 914/6 right next to m=
e. ( as I was going by )<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">If your go=
ing to use them have the big ends checked for round and the wrist pins size=
d or at least checked.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I didn=E2=80=
=99t have any problem but I did hear a report from someone that the big end=
s on theirs weren=E2=80=99t perfectly round but correctable.<u></u><u></u><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">jim g<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;bor=
der-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Beh=
alf Of </b>Enquiries Road &amp; Track via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, Septe=
mber 18, 2020 3:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> Phil Gott &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vfracin=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Friends=
 Of Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Maxpeedingrods<u></u><=
u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">yes, we used quite a few sets in our engine shop for high H=
P jap engines, never triumph. quality=C2=A0seems reasonable. the only on-go=
ing issue we found with cheap chinese rods like this is the big end tunnel =
is imperfectly honed. it was not uncommon to have to re-size them. in fact =
we did a few hundred=C2=A0for one importer at one time. we were never able =
to confirm if the bolts were really ARP, or just copies<u></u><u></u></p><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">i know of a factory in Taiwan that lists thousands=C2=A0of differe=
nt sets , including various TR rods, and will brand them with whatever name=
/logo you want. their wholesale price is typcially=C2=A0US$45/rod, bought=
=C2=A0in quantities like 50. They will provide steel specs if asked. They h=
ave some real oddities , like 1mm longer or shorter for various application=
s, so its obvious they make for performance applications, not just replacem=
ent for mom and dad shopping carts<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Terry<u></u>=
<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Australia<u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 3:58 AM Phil Gott via Fot &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;b=
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padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Has anyone used these? They look like =
Carrillo knockoffs. 4340 steel, ARP bolts, shotpeened. Priced right.<br>Phi=
l Gott<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br>______________________________________=
_________<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fot@au=
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