Subject: [Fot] Six head gasket?

From: Brian Dennis via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 23:29:44 +0000 (UTC)

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Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil leak a=
t pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads before th=
is one as well. With a different block.=C2=A0=C2=A0Current=C2=A0Block is ze=
ro deck height and head=C2=A0is cut to achieve the=C2=A012:1.=C2=A0Just won=
dering what others might be using for head gasket?Thanks,=C2=A0Brian

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Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil leak at pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads before this one as well. With a different block.&nbsp;&nbsp;Current&nbsp;Block is zero deck height and head&nbsp;is cut to achieve the&nbsp;12:1.&nbsp;<div>Just wondering what others might be using for head gasket?</div><div>Thanks,&nbsp;</div><div>Brian<br><br><br><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br></div>
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From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 23:53:05 +0000 (UTC)

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 My data is a little dated, but when I was racing my TR-4 I always used the=
 steel competition head gasket, which was supplied by the factory as part o=
f the decompression kit for cars destined for Europe, which did not have th=
e required octane in their fuel.=C2=A0 I used a regional product called "Ga=
ska-Cinch", which was recommended by an old racer/friend from the St, Louis=
 area.=C2=A0 I started using it in about 1980, and for the next 17 years, n=
ever had a failure.
More recently, I rebuilt the engine in my TR-3 (street car). and used a hea=
d gasket by Cometic.=C2=A0 They normally make head gaskets for=C2=A0 stock =
cars and drag racers, so I=C2=A0 was surprised that they would make one for=
 a TR-3/4.=C2=A0 They might also make one for a TR-6.=C2=A0 It is a steel, =
multi-layer gasket, but it has worked fine.=C2=A0 Going on about 5 years no=
w on a 10.5"1 compression TR-3/4 engine.
For what it's worth, that's my experience.
Jack

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 Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil leak =
at pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads before t=
his one as well. With a different block.=C2=A0=C2=A0Current=C2=A0Block is z=
ero deck height and head=C2=A0is cut to achieve the=C2=A012:1.=C2=A0Just wo=
ndering what others might be using for head gasket?Thanks,=C2=A0Brian

yahoo.com

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">My data is a little dated, b=
ut when I was racing my TR-4 I always used the steel competition head gaske=
t, which was supplied by the factory as part of the decompression kit for c=
ars destined for Europe, which did not have the required octane in their fu=
el.&nbsp; I used a regional product called "Gaska-Cinch", which was recomme=
nded by an old racer/friend from the St, Louis area.&nbsp; I started using =
it in about 1980, and for the next 17 years, never had a failure.</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false">More recently, I rebuilt the engine in my TR-3 (street car). and=
 used a head gasket by Cometic.&nbsp; They normally make head gaskets for&n=
bsp; stock cars and drag racers, so I&nbsp; was surprised that they would m=
ake one for a TR-3/4.&nbsp; They might also make one for a TR-6.&nbsp; It i=
s a steel, multi-layer gasket, but it has worked fine.&nbsp; Going on about=
 5 years now on a 10.5"1 compression TR-3/4 engine.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">For w=
hat it's worth, that's my experience.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
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Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil leak a=
t pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads before th=
is one as well. With a different block.&nbsp;&nbsp;Current&nbsp;Block is ze=
ro deck height and head&nbsp;is cut to achieve the&nbsp;12:1.&nbsp;<div>Jus=
t wondering what others might be using for head gasket?</div><div>Thanks,&n=
bsp;</div><div>Brian<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/=
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From: Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 21:13:57 -0500

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Hi, Brian,=20
My GT6 runs about 11.5:1 and I have always run a Payen head gasket - =
some kind of black composite sandwiched around steel or aluminum, with =
aluminum(?) fire rings.  I=E2=80=99ve got a fairly high performance =
engine - 175 HP +/-.
Standard Moss issue.  Never had an issue in ten years.
For the leak issue you have, I=E2=80=99ve found putting Permatex black =
around the perimeter of the pushrod area on the block and head (both =
sides of the gasket) solves the problem.  There=E2=80=99s not as much =
clamping force over there, and mine always used to leak too.  No more!

Scott Janzen=20
=E2=80=9968 GT6

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Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil =
leak at pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads =
before this one as well. With a different block.  Current Block is zero =
deck height and head is cut to achieve the 12:1.=20
Just wondering what others might be using for head gasket?
Thanks,=20
Brian

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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi, =
Brian,&nbsp;<div class=3D"">My GT6 runs about 11.5:1 and I have always =
run a Payen head gasket - some kind of black composite sandwiched around =
steel or aluminum, with aluminum(?) fire rings. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99ve got a =
fairly high performance engine - 175 HP +/-.</div><div class=3D"">Standard=
 Moss issue. &nbsp;Never had an issue in ten years.</div><div =
class=3D"">For the leak issue you have, I=E2=80=99ve found putting =
Permatex black around the perimeter of the pushrod area on the block and =
head (both sides of the gasket) solves the problem. &nbsp;There=E2=80=99s =
not as much clamping force over there, and mine always used to leak too. =
&nbsp;No more!</div><div class=3D""><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Scott =
Janzen&nbsp;</div><div>=E2=80=9968 GT6</div><div><br =
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Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil =
leak at pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads =
before this one as well. With a different =
block.&nbsp;&nbsp;Current&nbsp;Block is zero deck height and =
head&nbsp;is cut to achieve the&nbsp;12:1.&nbsp;<div class=3D"">Just =
wondering what others might be using for head gasket?</div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks,&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Brian<br class=3D""><br =
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From: Brian Schirano via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2020 21:31:57 -0500

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Same gasket here, always payen with fire ring, with my motor a little
milder (understatement) than Scott's=F0=9F=98=AC

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 9:14 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]>
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> Hi, Brian,
> My GT6 runs about 11.5:1 and I have always run a Payen head gasket - some
> kind of black composite sandwiched around steel or aluminum, with
> aluminum(?) fire rings.  I=E2=80=99ve got a fairly high performance engin=
e - 175 HP
> +/-.
> For the leak issue you have, I=E2=80=99ve found putting Permatex black ar=
ound the
> perimeter of the pushrod area on the block and head (both sides of the
> gasket) solves the problem.  There=E2=80=99s not as much clamping force o=
ver there,
> and mine always used to leak too.  No more!
>
> Scott Janzen
> =E2=80=9968 GT6
>
> On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Brian Dennis via Fot <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil leak
> at pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads before
> this one as well. With a different block.  Current Block is zero deck
> height and head is cut to achieve the 12:1.
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<div dir=3D"auto">Same gasket here, always payen with fire ring, with my mo=
tor a little milder (understatement) than Scott&#39;s=F0=9F=98=AC</div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Ma=
r 1, 2020, 9:14 PM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wr=
ap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Hi, Brian,=C2=A0<div>My GT6 run=
s about 11.5:1 and I have always run a Payen head gasket - some kind of bla=
ck composite sandwiched around steel or aluminum, with aluminum(?) fire rin=
gs.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve got a fairly high performance engine - 175 HP +/-.</=
div><div>Standard Moss issue.=C2=A0 Never had an issue in ten years.</div><=
div>For the leak issue you have, I=E2=80=99ve found putting Permatex black =
around the perimeter of the pushrod area on the block and head (both sides =
of the gasket) solves the problem.=C2=A0 There=E2=80=99s not as much clampi=
ng force over there, and mine always used to leak too.=C2=A0 No more!</div>=
<div><div><br></div><div>Scott Janzen=C2=A0</div><div>=E2=80=9968 GT6</div>=
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lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><d=
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Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil leak a=
t pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads before th=
is one as well. With a different block.=C2=A0=C2=A0Current=C2=A0Block is ze=
ro deck height and head=C2=A0is cut to achieve the=C2=A012:1.=C2=A0<div>Jus=
t wondering what others might be using for head gasket?</div><div>Thanks,=
=C2=A0</div><div>Brian<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.co=
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From: Geoff Byrne via Fot <[email-masked]>
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I run very high compression in both my TR6 and GT6 race cars and have found t=
he Lucas head gaskets are the best
Geoff Byrne
TR6 racer down under

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> On 2 Mar 2020, at 10:30 am, Brian Dennis via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
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> =EF=BB=BF Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic=
 oil leak at pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads=
 before this one as well. With a different block.  Current Block is zero dec=
k height and head is cut to achieve the 12:1.=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I run very high compression in both my TR6 a=
nd GT6 race cars and have found the Lucas head gaskets are the best<div>Geof=
f Byrne</div><div>TR6 racer down under<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my i=
Phone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 2 Mar 2020, at 1=
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Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil leak at=
 pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads before this=
 one as well. With a different block.&nbsp;&nbsp;Current&nbsp;Block is zero d=
eck height and head&nbsp;is cut to achieve the&nbsp;12:1.&nbsp;<div>Just won=
dering what others might be using for head gasket?</div><div>Thanks,&nbsp;</=
div><div>Brian<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3D=
iOS">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br></div>
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From: "van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 08:29:23 +0100 (CET)

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Geoff, 
Down under? You have the same rights to pretend you are on the top of the earth as any other country. There is no physical law to prove otherwise! 
Marcel 

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I run very high compression in both my TR6 and GT6 race cars and have found the Lucas head gaskets are the best 
Geoff Byrne 
TR6 racer down under 

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Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil leak at pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads before this one as well. With a different block. Current Block is zero deck height and head is cut to achieve the 12:1. 
Just wondering what others might be using for head gasket? 
Thanks, 
Brian 

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If you regard the head of a woman as North Pole and the =E2=80=9Cdown =
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I run very high compression in both my TR6 and GT6 race cars and have =
found the Lucas head gaskets are the best

Geoff Byrne

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fixed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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</b>van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 2. =
M=C3=A4rz 2020 08:29<br><b>An:</b> Geoff Byrne =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> fot =
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gasket?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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own under? You have the same rights to pretend you are on the top of the =
earth as any other country. There is no physical law to prove =
otherwise!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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an: </span></b><span =
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quot;fot&quot; &lt;<a =
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o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>I=
 run very high compression in both my TR6 and GT6 race cars and have =
found the Lucas head gaskets are the best<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
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ny head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil leak =
at pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads =
before this one as well. With a different =
block.&nbsp;&nbsp;Current&nbsp;Block is zero deck height and =
head&nbsp;is cut to achieve =
the&nbsp;12:1.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
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ust wondering what others might be using for head =
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If you regard the head of a woman as North Pole and the =E2=80=9Cdown under=
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I run very high compression in both my TR6 and GT6 race cars and have found=
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Just wondering what others might be using for head gasket?=20

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f:</b> Re: [Fot] Six head gasket?</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
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t;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:black">Geoff,</span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'verdan=
a' , sans-serif;color:black">Down under? You have the same rights to preten=
d you are on the top of the earth as any other country. There is no physica=
l law to prove otherwise!</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:black">Ma=
rcel</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p></div>=
<div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:black"><h=
r size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center" id=3D"zwchr"></span></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'verda=
na' , sans-serif;color:black">Van: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt=
;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:black">"fot" &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Brian Dennis" &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener nor=
eferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener norefe=
rrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Maandag 2 maart 2020 =
07:31:58<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Six head gasket?</span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'verdan=
a' , sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color=
:black">I run very high compression in both my TR6 and GT6 race cars and ha=
ve found the Lucas head gaskets are the best</span></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;co=
lor:black">Geoff Byrne</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'verdana' , =
sans-serif;color:black">TR6 racer down under</span></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;co=
lor:black">Sent from my iPhone</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:blac=
k">&nbsp;</span></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:black">On 2 Mar 2020, at 10=
:30 am, Brian Dennis via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:</span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;=
margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:black">Any head gasket suggestio=
ns for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil leak at pushrod side of head. H=
ad same problem with two different heads before this one as well. With a di=
fferent block.&nbsp;&nbsp;Current&nbsp;Block is zero deck height and head&n=
bsp;is cut to achieve the&nbsp;12:1.&nbsp;</span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;colo=
r:black">Just wondering what others might be using for head gasket?</span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:'verdana' , sans-serif;color:black">Thanks,&nbsp;</span></p></div><div>=
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, sans-serif;color:black">Brian<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail=
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From: Robert Lang via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 22:03:34 +0000 (UTC)

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 Hi - My vote is for venting. Add more vents!!! Oil pushes out because of p=
ressure in the block. Give the pressure somewhere to go and either you get =
less leaks or no more leaks (depending on the state of the engine).
I think Kas covers this pretty well in one or more of the books.
;-)
By way of example, I run two 1/2" vents in the valve cover and one via the =
fuel pump blanking plate, so three total. I also run PCV and a Goodparts oi=
l separator. As long as I keep the revs under 6000, the oil getting pushed =
out seems to be very small indeed, maybe a few teaspoons per session.
There's a common misconception about what gaskets do. They do not relieve p=
ressure and that's why you're pushing oil. Get rid of the positive crank ca=
se pressure and "Bob's yter unKle".

c ya,Bob Lang

    On Sunday, March 1, 2020, 6:30:03 PM EST, Brian Dennis via Fot <fot@aut=
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@yahoo.com

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi - My vote is for venting.=
 Add more vents!!! Oil pushes out because of pressure in the block. Give th=
e pressure somewhere to go and either you get less leaks or no more leaks (=
depending on the state of the engine).</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I think Kas covers=
 this pretty well in one or more of the books.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-s=
etdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">;-)</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false">By way of example, I run two 1/2" vents in the valve cover and =
one via the fuel pump blanking plate, so three total. I also run PCV and a =
Goodparts oil separator. As long as I keep the revs under 6000, the oil get=
ting pushed out seems to be very small indeed, maybe a few teaspoons per se=
ssion.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" data-setdir=3D"false">There's a common misconception about what gaskets =
do. They do not relieve pressure and that's why you're pushing oil. Get rid=
 of the positive crank case pressure and "Bob's yter unKle".<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
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Any head gasket suggestions for gt6 12:1 motor. Have had chronic oil leak a=
t pushrod side of head. Had same problem with two different heads before th=
is one as well. With a different block.&nbsp;&nbsp;Current&nbsp;Block is ze=
ro deck height and head&nbsp;is cut to achieve the&nbsp;12:1.&nbsp;<div>Jus=
t wondering what others might be using for head gasket?</div><div>Thanks,&n=
bsp;</div><div>Brian<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/=
?.src=3DiOS" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iP=
hone</a><br></div>
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From: geoff byrne via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 19:03:31 +1100

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Some of us Aussies rather like the fact we are =E2=80=9Cdown =
under=E2=80=9D  has a certain charm but in Aus if you are out passed the =
black stump you really are in hillbilly territory

Regards Geoff

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From: [email-masked] =
[mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 6:29 PM
To: Geoff Byrne
Cc: fot
Subject: Re: [Fot] Six head gasket?

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Geoff,

Marcel

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Geoff Byrne

TR6 racer down under

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Some of us Aussies rather like the fact we are =E2=80=9Cdown =
under=E2=80=9D =C2=A0has a certain charm but in Aus if you are out =
passed the black stump you really are in hillbilly =
territory<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Regards Geoff<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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[email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 2, 2020 6:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> Geoff =
Byrne<br><b>Cc:</b> fot<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Six head =
gasket?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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>Geoff,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
the earth as any other country. There is no physical law to prove =
otherwise!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Marcel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
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><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter =
id=3Dzwchr></span></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Van: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
>&quot;fot&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>&quot;Brian =
Dennis&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>&quot;fot&quot; =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Maandag 2 maart 2020 =
07:31:58<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Six head =
gasket?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
found the Lucas head gaskets are the best<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Geoff Byrne<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
>TR6 racer down under<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
>On 2 Mar 2020, at 10:30 am, Brian Dennis via Fot =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Just wondering what others might be using for head =
gasket?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
>Thanks,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'=
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like most racers, ive had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and have
tried copper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo  etc etc.,
with none of them  totally fixing it

unless the crankcase breather blocked,  they never really leaked badly
there when new (some weeped),  so its mostly a result of all the stuff we
do to them to make them go faster.  certainly. facing 2-3mm off the head
does not help, as the edge gets very thin and the clamp force over by the
pushrods is not great on any of them, so its no wonder they leak at worst
and weep at best  . Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up is a big
issue to be solved as others have discussed

long ago, i changed to using  multiple vents/breathers but the biggest
improvement was using WURT 250 sealant  on every joint , and my last race
2.5 is totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gaskets!!

my  "secret' is to follow WURT instructions and lay a tiny round bead on
the block edge near the pushrods and let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minutes
before fitting the head (just enough time for a cuppa). Do not finger it
and try to smooth it out.  By all means , fit the head with whatever
"quality" gasket that your heart desires. For what its worth , i use a
copper gasket and just re-anneal it every time. ive never found any spray
or brush on sealant really works (or is needed) on a conventional head
gasket,  but some copper ones may benefit

we used this WURT 250 sealant in our engine shop for years and all-but
eliminated warranty claims for leaking gaskets. A version called WURT 250
RED is great on triumph gearboxes, and overdrives, again, zero leaks if
applied correctly. For the very best result, every surface must be washed
with thinners or acetone, and not touched by hands etc  thereafter. it has
a limited shelf life of about a few weeks once opened , but we used tubes
of it every week, so that was not an issue.

i hope this might assist someone

Terry
(down under, but not quite as far "down" as geoff Byrne)

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">like most racers, ive had my fair share o=
f leaking triumph heads and have tried copper rings, fancy gaskets, plain g=
askets, magic goo=C2=A0 etc etc.,=C2=A0 with none of them=C2=A0 totally fix=
ing it=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>

unless the crankcase breather blocked,=C2=A0=20

they never really leaked badly there when new (some weeped),=C2=A0 so its=
=C2=A0mostly a result of all the stuff we do to them to make them go faster=
.=C2=A0 certainly. facing 2-3mm off the head does not help, as the edge get=
s very thin and=20

the clamp force over by the pushrods is not great on any of them, so its no=
 wonder they leak at worst and weep at best=C2=A0

. Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up is a big issue to be solved as =
others have discussed<br><div><br></div><div></div><div>long ago, i changed=
 to using=C2=A0 multiple=C2=A0vents/breathers but the biggest improvement=
=C2=A0was using WURT 250 sealant=C2=A0 on every joint , and my last race 2.=
5 is totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gaskets!!<=
br></div><div><br></div><div>my=C2=A0 &quot;secret&#39; is to follow WURT i=
nstructions and lay a tiny round bead on the block edge near the pushrods a=
nd let it &#39;skin&#39;...about 10-15 minutes before fitting the head (jus=
t enough time for a cuppa). Do not finger it and try to smooth it out.=C2=
=A0 By all means , fit the head with whatever &quot;quality&quot; gasket th=
at your heart desires. For what its worth , i use a copper gasket and just =
re-anneal it every time. ive never found any spray or brush on sealant real=
ly works (or is needed) on a conventional head gasket,=C2=A0 but some coppe=
r ones may benefit</div><div><br></div><div>we used this WURT 250 sealant i=
n our engine shop for years and all-but eliminated warranty claims for leak=
ing gaskets. A version called WURT 250 RED is great on triumph gearboxes, a=
nd overdrives, again, zero leaks if applied correctly. For the very best re=
sult, every surface must be washed with thinners or acetone, and not touche=
d by hands etc=C2=A0 thereafter. it has a limited shelf life of about a few=
 weeks once opened , but we used tubes of it every week, so that was not an=
 issue.</div><div><br></div><div>i hope=C2=A0this might assist someone</div=
><div><br></div><div>Terry</div><div>(down under, but not quite as far &quo=
t;down&quot; as geoff Byrne)=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div></div><div cla=
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 08:23:45 -0500

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interesting. A google search indicates this is available in Europe, but =
not sold directly in the US.  As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive =
here.

Scott

On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

like most racers, ive had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and =
have tried copper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo  etc =
etc.,  with none of them  totally fixing it=20

unless the crankcase breather blocked,  they never really leaked badly =
there when new (some weeped),  so its mostly a result of all the stuff =
we do to them to make them go faster.  certainly. facing 2-3mm off the =
head does not help, as the edge gets very thin and the clamp force over =
by the pushrods is not great on any of them, so its no wonder they leak =
at worst and weep at best  . Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up =
is a big issue to be solved as others have discussed

long ago, i changed to using  multiple vents/breathers but the biggest =
improvement was using WURT 250 sealant  on every joint , and my last =
race 2.5 is totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper =
gaskets!!

my  "secret' is to follow WURT instructions and lay a tiny round bead on =
the block edge near the pushrods and let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minutes =
before fitting the head (just enough time for a cuppa). Do not finger it =
and try to smooth it out.  By all means , fit the head with whatever =
"quality" gasket that your heart desires. For what its worth , i use a =
copper gasket and just re-anneal it every time. ive never found any =
spray or brush on sealant really works (or is needed) on a conventional =
head gasket,  but some copper ones may benefit

we used this WURT 250 sealant in our engine shop for years and all-but =
eliminated warranty claims for leaking gaskets. A version called WURT =
250 RED is great on triumph gearboxes, and overdrives, again, zero leaks =
if applied correctly. For the very best result, every surface must be =
washed with thinners or acetone, and not touched by hands etc  =
thereafter. it has a limited shelf life of about a few weeks once opened =
, but we used tubes of it every week, so that was not an issue.

Terry
(down under, but not quite as far "down" as geoff Byrne)=20

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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">interesting. A google search indicates this is available in =
Europe, but not sold directly in the US. &nbsp;As such, it=E2=80=99s =
pretty expensive here.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Scott<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road &amp; Track via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">like most racers, ive =
had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and have tried copper rings, =
fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo&nbsp; etc etc.,&nbsp; with none =
of them&nbsp; totally fixing it&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">

unless the crankcase breather blocked,&nbsp;=20

they never really leaked badly there when new (some weeped),&nbsp; so =
its&nbsp;mostly a result of all the stuff we do to them to make them go =
faster.&nbsp; certainly. facing 2-3mm off the head does not help, as the =
edge gets very thin and=20

the clamp force over by the pushrods is not great on any of them, so its =
no wonder they leak at worst and weep at best&nbsp;

. Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up is a big issue to be solved =
as others have discussed<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">long ago, i =
changed to using&nbsp; multiple&nbsp;vents/breathers but the biggest =
improvement&nbsp;was using WURT 250 sealant&nbsp; on every joint , and =
my last race 2.5 is totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, =
no paper gaskets!!<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">my&nbsp; "secret' is to follow WURT =
instructions and lay a tiny round bead on the block edge near the =
pushrods and let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minutes before fitting the head =
(just enough time for a cuppa). Do not finger it and try to smooth it =
out.&nbsp; By all means , fit the head with whatever "quality" gasket =
that your heart desires. For what its worth , i use a copper gasket and =
just re-anneal it every time. ive never found any spray or brush on =
sealant really works (or is needed) on a conventional head gasket,&nbsp; =
but some copper ones may benefit</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">we used this WURT 250 sealant in our =
engine shop for years and all-but eliminated warranty claims for leaking =
gaskets. A version called WURT 250 RED is great on triumph gearboxes, =
and overdrives, again, zero leaks if applied correctly. For the very =
best result, every surface must be washed with thinners or acetone, and =
not touched by hands etc&nbsp; thereafter. it has a limited shelf life =
of about a few weeks once opened , but we used tubes of it every week, =
so that was not an issue.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">i hope&nbsp;this might assist someone</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Terry</div><div class=3D"">(down under, =
but not quite as far "down" as geoff Byrne)&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br=
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I think I found it on eBay, as long as it is WURTH 250, not WURT 250?  I ord=
ered  a tube  just in case, it was less than $15 delivered to the US from th=
e UK.

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFinteresting. A google search indicates this is available in Europ=
e, but not sold directly in the US.  As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive h=
ere.
>=20
> Scott
>=20
> On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:
>=20
> like most racers, ive had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and have t=
ried copper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo  etc etc.,  with n=
one of them  totally fixing it=20
>=20
> unless the crankcase breather blocked,  they never really leaked badly the=
re when new (some weeped),  so its mostly a result of all the stuff we do to=
 them to make them go faster.  certainly. facing 2-3mm off the head does not=
 help, as the edge gets very thin and the clamp force over by the pushrods i=
s not great on any of them, so its no wonder they leak at worst and weep at b=
est  . Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up is a big issue to be solved=
 as others have discussed
>=20
> long ago, i changed to using  multiple vents/breathers but the biggest imp=
rovement was using WURT 250 sealant  on every joint , and my last race 2.5 i=
s totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gaskets!!
>=20
> my  "secret' is to follow WURT instructions and lay a tiny round bead on t=
he block edge near the pushrods and let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minutes befo=
re fitting the head (just enough time for a cuppa). Do not finger it and try=
 to smooth it out.  By all means , fit the head with whatever "quality" gask=
et that your heart desires. For what its worth , i use a copper gasket and j=
ust re-anneal it every time. ive never found any spray or brush on sealant r=
eally works (or is needed) on a conventional head gasket,  but some copper o=
nes may benefit
>=20
> we used this WURT 250 sealant in our engine shop for years and all-but eli=
minated warranty claims for leaking gaskets. A version called WURT 250 RED i=
s great on triumph gearboxes, and overdrives, again, zero leaks if applied c=
orrectly. For the very best result, every surface must be washed with thinne=
rs or acetone, and not touched by hands etc  thereafter. it has a limited sh=
elf life of about a few weeks once opened , but we used tubes of it every we=
ek, so that was not an issue.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I think I found it on eBay, as long as it i=
s WURTH 250, not WURT 250? &nbsp;I ordered &nbsp;a tube &nbsp;just in case, i=
t was less than $15 delivered to the US from the UK.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Ma=
r 4, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">=
interesting. A google search indicates this is available in Europe, but not s=
old directly in the US. &nbsp;As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive here.<d=
iv class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Scott<br class=3D""><div>=
<br class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road &a=
mp; Track via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">fot@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><d=
iv class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">like m=
ost racers, ive had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and have tried co=
pper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo&nbsp; etc etc.,&nbsp; wi=
th none of them&nbsp; totally fixing it&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">=
</div><div class=3D"">

they never really leaked badly there when new (some weeped),&nbsp; so its&nb=
sp;mostly a result of all the stuff we do to them to make them go faster.&nb=
sp; certainly. facing 2-3mm off the head does not help, as the edge gets ver=
y thin and=20

the clamp force over by the pushrods is not great on any of them, so its no w=
onder they leak at worst and weep at best&nbsp;

. Ive concluded crankcase pressure build up is a big issue to be solved as o=
thers have discussed<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">long ago, i changed to using&nbsp; multipl=
e&nbsp;vents/breathers but the biggest improvement&nbsp;was using WURT 250 s=
ealant&nbsp; on every joint , and my last race 2.5 is totally leak free, ie z=
ero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gaskets!!<br class=3D""></div><div clas=
s=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">my&nbsp; "secret' is to follow W=
URT instructions and lay a tiny round bead on the block edge near the pushro=
ds and let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minutes before fitting the head (just eno=
ugh time for a cuppa). Do not finger it and try to smooth it out.&nbsp; By a=
ll means , fit the head with whatever "quality" gasket that your heart desir=
es. For what its worth , i use a copper gasket and just re-anneal it every t=
ime. ive never found any spray or brush on sealant really works (or is neede=
d) on a conventional head gasket,&nbsp; but some copper ones may benefit</di=
v><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">we used this WURT 250=
 sealant in our engine shop for years and all-but eliminated warranty claims=
 for leaking gaskets. A version called WURT 250 RED is great on triumph gear=
boxes, and overdrives, again, zero leaks if applied correctly. For the very b=
est result, every surface must be washed with thinners or acetone, and not t=
ouched by hands etc&nbsp; thereafter. it has a limited shelf life of about a=
 few weeks once opened , but we used tubes of it every week, so that was not=
 an issue.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">i hope&=
nbsp;this might assist someone</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><di=
v class=3D"">Terry</div><div class=3D"">(down under, but not quite as far "d=
own" as geoff Byrne)&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
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I think Wurth products are sold to direct to the industry channel by route
jobbers.  I used to get a buddy that  owned a paint shop to buy some
product for me.

Bob Kramer

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> interesting. A google search indicates this is available in Europe, but
> not sold directly in the US.  As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive here=
.
>
> Scott
>
> On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> 2.5 is totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gasket=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I think Wurth products are sold to direct to the industry =
channel by route jobbers.=C2=A0 I used to get a buddy that=C2=A0 owned a pa=
int shop to buy some product for me.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><br clear=3D"all"><div=
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 A google search indicates this is available in Europe, but not sold direct=
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From: Brian Schirano via Fot <[email-masked]>
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When I was looking I found Worth America and it pulled up red permatex
I was going to start over tonight

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 8:46 AM Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I think Wurth products are sold to direct to the industry channel by rout=
e
>> not sold directly in the US.  As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive her=
e.
>> like most racers, ive had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and hav=
e
>> there when new (some weeped),  so its mostly a result of all the stuff w=
e
>> does not help, as the edge gets very thin and the clamp force over by th=
e
>> pushrods is not great on any of them, so its no wonder they leak at wors=
t
>> improvement was using WURT 250 sealant  on every joint , and my last rac=
e
>> 2.5 is totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gaske=
ts!!
>> copper gasket and just re-anneal it every time. ive never found any spra=
y
>> eliminated warranty claims for leaking gaskets. A version called WURT 25=
0
>> applied correctly. For the very best result, every surface must be washe=
d
>> with thinners or acetone, and not touched by hands etc  thereafter. it h=
as
>> a limited shelf life of about a few weeks once opened , but we used tube=
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<div dir=3D"auto">When I was looking I found Worth America and it pulled up=
 red permatex=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">I was going to start over tonigh=
t</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 8:46 AM Bob Kramer via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think Wurth products are sold to di=
rect to the industry channel by route jobbers.=C2=A0 I used to get a buddy =
that=C2=A0 owned a paint shop to buy some product for me.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><=
br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 =
at 7:25 AM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>interesting. A g=
oogle search indicates this is available in Europe, but not sold directly i=
n the US.=C2=A0 As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive here.<div><br></div>=
<div>Scott<br><div><br><div>On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, Enquiries Road &amp=
; Track via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">like most racers, ive had my fair share of leaki=
ng triumph heads and have tried copper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets,=
 magic goo=C2=A0 etc etc.,=C2=A0 with none of them=C2=A0 totally fixing it=
=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>

t;down&quot; as geoff Byrne)=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div></div><div cla=
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Do any of you guys have experience with the Lucas HD head gaskets that have
the silicone bead around the edges?
Jason Sukey

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 3:14 PM Brian Schirano via Fot <[email-masked]>
wrote:

>> I think Wurth products are sold to direct to the industry channel by
>> route jobbers.  I used to get a buddy that  owned a paint shop to buy so=
me
>>> not sold directly in the US.  As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive he=
re.
>>> like most racers, ive had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and
>>> have tried copper rings, fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo  etc
>>> etc.,  with none of them  totally fixing it
>>>
we
>>> do to them to make them go faster.  certainly. facing 2-3mm off the hea=
d
>>> does not help, as the edge gets very thin and the clamp force over by t=
he
>>> pushrods is not great on any of them, so its no wonder they leak at wor=
st
>>> improvement was using WURT 250 sealant  on every joint , and my last ra=
ce
>>> 2.5 is totally leak free, ie zero, not even a stain. BUT, no paper gask=
ets!!
>>>
>>> my  "secret' is to follow WURT instructions and lay a tiny round bead o=
n
>>> the block edge near the pushrods and let it 'skin'...about 10-15 minute=
s
>>> before fitting the head (just enough time for a cuppa). Do not finger i=
t
>>> copper gasket and just re-anneal it every time. ive never found any spr=
ay
>>> eliminated warranty claims for leaking gaskets. A version called WURT 2=
50
>>> applied correctly. For the very best result, every surface must be wash=
ed
>>> with thinners or acetone, and not touched by hands etc  thereafter. it =
has
>>> a limited shelf life of about a few weeks once opened , but we used tub=
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<div dir=3D"auto">Do any of you guys have experience with the Lucas HD head=
 gaskets that have the silicone bead around the edges?=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=
=3D"auto">Jason Sukey</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 3:14 PM Brian Schirano via =
Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">When I was l=
ooking I found Worth America and it pulled up red permatex=C2=A0=C2=A0<div =
dir=3D"auto">I was going to start over tonight</div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 8:=
46 AM Bob Kramer via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think Wurth products are s=
old to direct to the industry channel by route jobbers.=C2=A0 I used to get=
 a buddy that=C2=A0 owned a paint shop to buy some product for me.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0<div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_sig=
nature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar =
4, 2020 at 7:25 AM Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
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x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv>interesting. A google search indicates this is available in Europe, but =
not sold directly in the US.=C2=A0 As such, it=E2=80=99s pretty expensive h=
ere.<div><br></div><div>Scott<br><div><br><div>On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:59 AM, =
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ive had my fair share of leaking triumph heads and have tried copper rings,=
 fancy gaskets, plain gaskets, magic goo=C2=A0 etc etc.,=C2=A0 with none of=
 them=C2=A0 totally fixing it=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>

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