Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Engine races

From: Redmond via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 17:14:37 -0400 (EDT)

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I sent this earlier today with a video.  I removed it and am trying again.

Sorry for the double post if it comes thru.

Todd

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From: Redmond <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked] [email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: March 28, 2020 at 11:59 AM
Subject: Engine races

> 
>     Friends!
> 
>     Was a beautiful day for a drive yesterday in northern NJ.
> 
>     Problem is shortly after this video I was coming to a stop and when i pressed in the clutch the engine raced to 5-6k  I shut it down and pulled off the road.  This has happened before and we've done some things,  added a vacuum line, lubricated the linkage as we thought that the throttle was sticking, check the idle screw thinking it loosened(SU's).  I fired it back up and the racing stopped but the idle now was at 2300rpm.  We had it set to 1100rpm.  Drove it home, parked it and had a couple of pints! 
> 
> 
>     Any ideas or suggestions?
> 
>     Todd
> 
> 
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;">I sent this earlier today=
 with a video.&#160; I removed it and am trying again.</p><p style=3D"font-=
family: Helvetica;">Sorry for the double post if it comes thru.</p><p style=
=3D"font-family: Helvetica;">Todd</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;"><=
br></p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;">---------- Original Message ---=
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[email-masked] [email-masked]&#34; &#60;[email-masked]&#62; <br>D=
ate: March 28, 2020 at 11:59 AM <br>Subject: Engine races <br> <br></p><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;">Friends!</p><p s=
tyle=3D"font-family: Helvetica;">Was a beautiful day for a drive yesterday =
in northern NJ.</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;">Problem is shortly =
after this video I was coming to a stop and when i pressed in the clutch th=
e engine raced to 5-6k&#160; I shut it down and pulled off the road.&#160; =
This has happened before and we&#39;ve done some things,&#160; added a vacu=
um line, lubricated the linkage as we thought that the throttle was stickin=
g, check the idle screw thinking it loosened(SU&#39;s).&#160; I fired it ba=
ck up and the racing stopped but the idle now was at 2300rpm.&#160; We had =
it set to 1100rpm.&#160; Drove it home, parked it and had a couple of pints=
!&#160;</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;"><br></p><p style=3D"font-fa=
mily: Helvetica;">Any ideas or suggestions?</p><p style=3D"font-family: Hel=
vetica;">Todd</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;"><br></p><p style=3D"f=
ont-family: Helvetica;"><img src=3D"cid:a901cfc0febe4f85b4590f1fab49a030@Op=
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From: David Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 21:31:26 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi Todd,
My first question would be, was the engine fully warmed up when you set the=
 idle at 1100? (Like HOT)=C2=A0 =C2=A0I know once my race engine gets warm =
the idle is much higher; make sure to set idle with a hot engine... =C2=A0b=
ut maybe you already did that!
Let us know!
Thanks,Dave Gott

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I sent this earlier today with a video.=C2=A0 I removed it and am trying ag=
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Todd

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From: Redmond <[email-masked]>=20
To: "[email-masked] [email-masked]" <[email-masked]>=20
Date: March 28, 2020 at 11:59 AM=20
Subject: Engine races=20
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Friends!

Problem is shortly after this video I was coming to a stop and when i press=
ed in the clutch the engine raced to 5-6k=C2=A0 I shut it down and pulled o=
ff the road.=C2=A0 This has happened before and we've done some things,=C2=
=A0 added a vacuum line, lubricated the linkage as we thought that the thro=
ttle was sticking, check the idle screw thinking it loosened(SU's).=C2=A0 I=
 fired it back up and the racing stopped but the idle now was at 2300rpm.=
=C2=A0 We had it set to 1100rpm.=C2=A0 Drove it home, parked it and had a c=
ouple of pints!=C2=A0

Todd

=C2=A0

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Hi Todd,<div><br></div><div>My first question would be, was the engine full=
y warmed up when you set the idle at 1100? (Like HOT)&nbsp; &nbsp;I know on=
ce my race engine gets warm the idle is much higher; make sure to set idle =
with a hot engine... &nbsp;but maybe you already did that!</div><div><br></=
div><div>Let us know!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Dave Gott<=
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rote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv8009044839">

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<div><p style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;">I sent this earlier today with a v=
ideo.&nbsp; I removed it and am trying again.</p><p style=3D"font-family:He=
lvetica;">Sorry for the double post if it comes thru.</p><p style=3D"font-f=
amily:Helvetica;">Todd</p><p style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;"><br></p><p st=
yle=3D"font-family:Helvetica;">---------- Original Message ---------- <br>F=
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[email-masked]" &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>Date: March 28, 2020 at 11=
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style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;">Friends!</p><p style=3D"font-family:Helvet=
ica;">Was a beautiful day for a drive yesterday in northern NJ.</p><p style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica;">Problem is shortly after this video I was comin=
g to a stop and when i pressed in the clutch the engine raced to 5-6k&nbsp;=
 I shut it down and pulled off the road.&nbsp; This has happened before and=
 we've done some things,&nbsp; added a vacuum line, lubricated the linkage =
as we thought that the throttle was sticking, check the idle screw thinking=
 it loosened(SU's).&nbsp; I fired it back up and the racing stopped but the=
 idle now was at 2300rpm.&nbsp; We had it set to 1100rpm.&nbsp; Drove it ho=
me, parked it and had a couple of pints!&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"font-family:H=
elvetica;"><br></p><p style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;">Any ideas or suggest=
ions?</p><p style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;">Todd</p><p style=3D"font-famil=
y:Helvetica;"><br></p><p style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;"><img src=3D"cid:X=
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From: Steven Belfer via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:33:35 -0700

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On my racing TR3, I have a fairly stout secondary carb linkage return =
spring.  It ensures that the carbs always get pulled back to zero

~Steve

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Redmond via Fot <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
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> I sent this earlier today with a video.  I removed it and am trying =
again.
>> Problem is shortly after this video I was coming to a stop and when i =
pressed in the clutch the engine raced to 5-6k  I shut it down and =
pulled off the road.  This has happened before and we've done some =
things,  added a vacuum line, lubricated the linkage as we thought that =
the throttle was sticking, check the idle screw thinking it =
loosened(SU's).  I fired it back up and the racing stopped but the idle =
now was at 2300rpm.  We had it set to 1100rpm.  Drove it home, parked it =
and had a couple of pints!=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">On =
my racing TR3, I have a fairly stout secondary carb linkage return =
spring. &nbsp;It ensures that the carbs always get pulled back to =
zero<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">~Steve</div><div =
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28, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Redmond via Fot &lt;<a =
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<div class=3D""><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D"">I sent =
this earlier today with a video.&nbsp; I removed it and am trying =
again.</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D"">Sorry for the =
double post if it comes thru.</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" =
class=3D"">Todd</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D"">---------- =
Original Message ---------- <br class=3D"">From: Redmond &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br class=3D"">To: "<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>" =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br class=3D"">Date: March 28, =
2020 at 11:59 AM <br class=3D"">Subject: Engine races <br class=3D""> =
<br class=3D""></p><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><p =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D"">Friends!</p><p =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D"">Was a beautiful day for a =
drive yesterday in northern NJ.</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" =
class=3D"">Problem is shortly after this video I was coming to a stop =
and when i pressed in the clutch the engine raced to 5-6k&nbsp; I shut =
it down and pulled off the road.&nbsp; This has happened before and =
we've done some things,&nbsp; added a vacuum line, lubricated the =
linkage as we thought that the throttle was sticking, check the idle =
screw thinking it loosened(SU's).&nbsp; I fired it back up and the =
racing stopped but the idle now was at 2300rpm.&nbsp; We had it set to =
1100rpm.&nbsp; Drove it home, parked it and had a couple of =
pints!&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D"">Any ideas =
or suggestions?</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" =
class=3D"">Todd</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D""><span =
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From: fubog1 via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 11:24:59 +0000 (UTC)

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 Loosen the carb connecting clamp and make sure that both throttles are ret=
urning fully and against the idle stops, and then balance the airflow.Tight=
en the clamp and check it again.If both throttles are returning fully, and =
it still does it, you could have a loose or incorrectly centered butterfly,=
 or a vacuum leak.HTHGlen
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From: Redmond via Fot <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sat, Mar 28, 2020 5:15 pm
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Engine races

 I sent this earlier today with a video.=C2=A0 I removed it and am trying a=
gain.Sorry for the double post if it comes thru.Todd
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From: Redmond <[email-masked]>=20
To: "[email-masked] [email-masked]" <[email-masked]>=20
Date: March 28, 2020 at 11:59 AM=20
Subject: Engine races=20
=20

Friends!Was a beautiful day for a drive yesterday in northern NJ.Problem is=
 shortly after this video I was coming to a stop and when i pressed in the =
clutch the engine raced to 5-6k=C2=A0 I shut it down and pulled off the roa=
d.=C2=A0 This has happened before and we've done some things,=C2=A0 added a=
 vacuum line, lubricated the linkage as we thought that the throttle was st=
icking, check the idle screw thinking it loosened(SU's).=C2=A0 I fired it b=
ack up and the racing stopped but the idle now was at 2300rpm.=C2=A0 We had=
 it set to 1100rpm.=C2=A0 Drove it home, parked it and had a couple of pint=
s!=C2=A0
Any ideas or suggestions?Todd

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<div> <font size="2">Loosen the carb connecting clamp and make sure that both throttles are returning fully and against the idle stops, and then balance the airflow.</font></div>

<div><font size="2">Tighten the clamp and check it again.</font></div>

<div><font size="2">If both throttles are returning fully, and it still does it, you could have a loose or incorrectly centered butterfly, or a vacuum leak.</font></div>

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<div style="font-family:Helvetica;">I sent this earlier today with a video.&nbsp; I removed it and am trying again.</div>

<div style="font-family:Helvetica;">Sorry for the double post if it comes thru.</div>

<div style="font-family:Helvetica;">Todd</div>

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<div style="font-family:Helvetica;">Was a beautiful day for a drive yesterday in northern NJ.</div>

<div style="font-family:Helvetica;">Problem is shortly after this video I was coming to a stop and when i pressed in the clutch the engine raced to 5-6k&nbsp; I shut it down and pulled off the road.&nbsp; This has happened before and we've done some things,&nbsp; added a vacuum line, lubricated the linkage as we thought that the throttle was sticking, check the idle screw thinking it loosened(SU's).&nbsp; I fired it back up and the racing stopped but the idle now was at 2300rpm.&nbsp; We had it set to 1100rpm.&nbsp; Drove it home, parked it and had a couple of pints!&nbsp;</div>

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<div style="font-family:Helvetica;">Any ideas or suggestions?</div>

<div style="font-family:Helvetica;">Todd</div>

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I had a very similar problem to this on my TR6 after switching carbs from
Zenith to a pair of Hitachi-SUs off a Datsun 240z.  I swore I had more than
enough =E2=80=9Creturn spring=E2=80=9D on the throttle linkage, would work =
perfectly with
throttle blips in the garage with no load, but on the street it would
behave exactly as you=E2=80=99re describing.  I switched to much heavier re=
turn
springs and problem went away.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 7:25 AM fubog1 via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Loosen the carb connecting clamp and make sure that both throttles are
> returning fully and against the idle stops, and then balance the airflow.
> Tighten the clamp and check it again.
> If both throttles are returning fully, and it still does it, you could
> have a loose or incorrectly centered butterfly, or a vacuum leak.
> HTH
> Glen
>
>
> I sent this earlier today with a video.  I removed it and am trying again=
.
> Problem is shortly after this video I was coming to a stop and when i
> pressed in the clutch the engine raced to 5-6k  I shut it down and pulled
> off the road.  This has happened before and we've done some things,  adde=
d
> a vacuum line, lubricated the linkage as we thought that the throttle was
> sticking, check the idle screw thinking it loosened(SU's).  I fired it ba=
ck
> up and the racing stopped but the idle now was at 2300rpm.  We had it set
> to 1100rpm.  Drove it home, parked it and had a couple of pints!
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">I had a very similar problem to this on my TR6 after=
 switching carbs from Zenith to a pair of Hitachi-SUs off a Datsun 240z.=C2=
=A0 I swore I had more than enough =E2=80=9Creturn spring=E2=80=9D on the t=
hrottle linkage, would work perfectly with throttle blips in the garage wit=
h no load, but on the street it would behave exactly as you=E2=80=99re desc=
ribing.=C2=A0 I switched to much heavier return springs and problem went aw=
ay.</div></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 7:25 AM fubog1 via Fot &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
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<div> <font size=3D"2">Loosen the carb connecting clamp and make sure that =
both throttles are returning fully and against the idle stops, and then bal=
ance the airflow.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Tighten the clamp and check it again.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">If both throttles are returning fully, and it still d=
oes it, you could have a loose or incorrectly centered butterfly, or a vacu=
um leak.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">HTH</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Glen</font><br clear=3D"none">
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<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">Friends!</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">Was a beautiful day for a drive yester=
day in northern NJ.</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">Problem is shortly after this video I =
was coming to a stop and when i pressed in the clutch the engine raced to 5=
-6k=C2=A0 I shut it down and pulled off the road.=C2=A0 This has happened b=
efore and we&#39;ve done some things,=C2=A0 added a vacuum line, lubricated=
 the linkage as we thought that the throttle was sticking, check the idle s=
crew thinking it loosened(SU&#39;s).=C2=A0 I fired it back up and the racin=
g stopped but the idle now was at 2300rpm.=C2=A0 We had it set to 1100rpm.=
=C2=A0 Drove it home, parked it and had a couple of pints!=C2=A0</div>

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<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">Any ideas or suggestions?</div>

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From: Robert Lang via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:36:36 +0000 (UTC)

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 Hi - Not for nothing, but sometimes we fix symptoms but the original probl=
em is still there.
I would verify that the throttle shafts are not worn and that the butterfli=
es close completely. As most of you probably know, with no load on an engin=
e, it doesn't take much more than a crack of the throttle to see some wicke=
d pissah (*) RPM's! I did an initial startup on a TR6 race motor with a Web=
er DCOE 40 that was stock on the idle screw - I saw 7000 on the tach as I s=
hut off the ignition. It went to those RPMs in less than a second. Speaking=
 of which - the idle stops on the stock DCOE40's SUCK. The metal is too thi=
n for the screw contact patch and they wedge in there... makes syncing the =
carbs a real beyatch. But it also why I cringe or resort to profanity if an=
 over zealous tech inspector tries snapping the throttles. But I got to bui=
ld that motor... TWICE.

Regards,Bob Lang(*) W-P is a regional expression for superlative measure.=
=20

    On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 8:40:00 AM EDT, Peter Popplewell via Fot <fo=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 I had a very similar problem to this on my TR6 after switching carbs from =
Zenith to a pair of Hitachi-SUs off a Datsun 240z.=C2=A0 I swore I had more=
 than enough =E2=80=9Creturn spring=E2=80=9D on the throttle linkage, would=
 work perfectly with throttle blips in the garage with no load, but on the =
street it would behave exactly as you=E2=80=99re describing.=C2=A0 I switch=
ed to much heavier return springs and problem went away.
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 7:25 AM fubog1 via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp91ba8836yahoo-style-wrap" style=
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3px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi - Not for nothing, but so=
metimes we fix symptoms but the original problem is still there.</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false">I would verify that the throttle shafts are not worn and that the b=
utterflies close completely. As most of you probably know, with no load on =
an engine, it doesn't take much more than a crack of the throttle to see so=
me wicked pissah (*) RPM's! I did an initial startup on a TR6 race motor wi=
th a Weber DCOE 40 that was stock on the idle screw - I saw 7000 on the tac=
h as I shut off the ignition. It went to those RPMs in less than a second. =
Speaking of which - the idle stops on the stock DCOE40's SUCK. The metal is=
 too thin for the screw contact patch and they wedge in there... makes sync=
ing the carbs a real beyatch. But it also why I cringe or resort to profani=
ty if an over zealous tech inspector tries snapping the throttles. But I go=
t to build that motor... TWICE.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Regards,</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Bob Lang</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false">(*) W-P is a regional expression for superlative measure. <br></=
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp4c200887yiv5690143102"><div><div><div>I =
had a very similar problem to this on my TR6 after switching carbs from Zen=
ith to a pair of Hitachi-SUs off a Datsun 240z.&nbsp; I swore I had more th=
an enough =E2=80=9Creturn spring=E2=80=9D on the throttle linkage, would wo=
rk perfectly with throttle blips in the garage with no load, but on the str=
eet it would behave exactly as you=E2=80=99re describing.&nbsp; I switched =
to much heavier return springs and problem went away.</div></div><div><br c=
lear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp4c200887yiv5690143102gmail_quote"><div class=
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<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;">Friends!</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;">Was a beautiful day for a drive yeste=
rday in northern NJ.</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;">Problem is shortly after this video I=
 was coming to a stop and when i pressed in the clutch the engine raced to =
5-6k&nbsp; I shut it down and pulled off the road.&nbsp; This has happened =
before and we've done some things,&nbsp; added a vacuum line, lubricated th=
e linkage as we thought that the throttle was sticking, check the idle scre=
w thinking it loosened(SU's).&nbsp; I fired it back up and the racing stopp=
ed but the idle now was at 2300rpm.&nbsp; We had it set to 1100rpm.&nbsp; D=
rove it home, parked it and had a couple of pints!&nbsp;</div>

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<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;">Any ideas or suggestions?</div>

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Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 08:59:15 -0700

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Todd
Perhaps the key bit of info here is the fact that this occurred when you ste=
pped on the clutch!
Maybe check your motor/trans mounts.

No racin here=20
Stuck in the scatter here in NorCal

Nick

Sent from the wilds of NorCal=20

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Redmond via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> I sent this earlier today with a video.  I removed it and am trying again.=

>> Problem is shortly after this video I was coming to a stop and when i pre=
ssed in the clutch the engine raced to 5-6k  I shut it down and pulled off t=
he road.  This has happened before and we've done some things,  added a vacu=
um line, lubricated the linkage as we thought that the throttle was sticking=
, check the idle screw thinking it loosened(SU's).  I fired it back up and t=
he racing stopped but the idle now was at 2300rpm.  We had it set to 1100rpm=
.  Drove it home, parked it and had a couple of pints!=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Todd<div>Perhaps the key bit of info here i=
s the fact that this occurred when you stepped on the clutch!</div><div>Mayb=
e check your motor/trans mounts.</div><div><br></div><div>No racin here&nbsp=
;</div><div>Stuck in the scatter here in NorCal</div><div><br></div><div>Nic=
k<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from the wilds of NorCal&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 28, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Redmond via=
 Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote=
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<p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;">I sent this earlier today with a video.=
&nbsp; I removed it and am trying again.</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helveti=
ca;">Sorry for the double post if it comes thru.</p><p style=3D"font-family:=
 Helvetica;">Todd</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;"><br></p><p style=3D=
"font-family: Helvetica;">---------- Original Message ---------- <br>From: R=
edmond &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>To: "[email-masked] FOT@autox=
.team.net" &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>Date: March 28, 2020 at 11:59 AM <=
br>Subject: Engine races <br> <br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite"><p style=3D"=
font-family: Helvetica;">Friends!</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;">Wa=
s a beautiful day for a drive yesterday in northern NJ.</p><p style=3D"font-=
family: Helvetica;">Problem is shortly after this video I was coming to a st=
op and when i pressed in the clutch the engine raced to 5-6k&nbsp; I shut it=
 down and pulled off the road.&nbsp; This has happened before and we've done=
 some things,&nbsp; added a vacuum line, lubricated the linkage as we though=
t that the throttle was sticking, check the idle screw thinking it loosened(=
SU's).&nbsp; I fired it back up and the racing stopped but the idle now was a=
t 2300rpm.&nbsp; We had it set to 1100rpm.&nbsp; Drove it home, parked it an=
d had a couple of pints!&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;"><br><=
/p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;">Any ideas or suggestions?</p><p styl=
e=3D"font-family: Helvetica;">Todd</p><p style=3D"font-family: Helvetica;"><=
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Todd

No racin here=20

Nick

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