Subject: Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...

From: Phil Gott via Fot <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 13:49:01 -0400

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Thank you Barry!
Ken, what have you developed for this?
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 24, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Barry Munson <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Hi Phil =E2=80=93 There is a better solution to the stock tensioner. It wa=
s developed by Ken Knight for the wet liner engine and is hydraulic similar t=
o the system used on Datsun 4cyl and Z engines. His is a piece of art.
> =20
> Barry.
> -      Stuck up here in northern Alberta with everything shut down. Even t=
he first half of our racing season has been cancelled.
> -      Keep safe everyone.
> -      It is really encouraging to see FOT waking up, I was really startin=
g to miss it.
> =20
> From: Fot [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of vfracing--- via=
 Fot
> Sent: March 24, 2020 6:32 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...
> =20
> Hi Marcel;
> =20
> Line boring should not materially affect the chain itself, as the crank ce=
nterline is raised usually less than .005".  Might affect cam timing a bit, b=
ut in the worst case scenario that can be fixed with a Vernier sprocket.
> =20
> However, I agree with your assessment of the tensioner.  Would like to kno=
w if there is a better solution.
> =20
> Phil
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: van.mulders.marcel <[email-masked]>
> To: Phil Gott <[email-masked]>
> Cc: fot <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 24, 2020 8:26 am
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...
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> What about the chain? Is there noticeably more slach of it?
> The chain tensioners do almost nothing . Sometimes there are deep grooves i=
n a short time, sometimes there is almost no scoring. Probably this is becau=
se of the chain running smoothly or with severe oscillations. Oscillations o=
f the chain will have an influence on the ignition timing too.
> Has anyone tried an alternative solution for the tensioner to keep the cha=
in quiet?
> Marcel
> =20
> Van: "fot" <[email-masked]>
> Aan: "Bob Kramer" <[email-masked]>
> Cc: "fot" <[email-masked]>
> Verzonden: Dinsdag 24 maart 2020 12:47:41
> Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...
> =20
> Yes, Bob, as far as I know you are correct, the bearing notches in the cap=
s and saddles are always on the same side.=20
> In the TR wet sleeve engine, each cap is unique as to its position, so it s=
hould be really hard to mix them up.
> Kas is right, however, in that in many engines it is good practice to mark=
 each cap as to position and orientation, just to be sure.
> I have had a wet sleeve block line bored just to true it up at ABT machine=
 in Holliston, Mass. This creates two issues that must be addressed, both du=
e to the slight raising of the crank center line:
> 1) the clearance space of the top of the pistons needs to be checked to be=
 sure there is no interference at TDC. Usually not a problem.
> 2) more of a problem is that the aluminum insert for the rear main seal ma=
y interfere with the block. This will become apparent when using the centeri=
ng tool, and can be addressed by filing down the area of the seal where it i=
nterferes. Do not file or alter any other surface, as this will compromise t=
he ability of the seal to function and/or to hold correctly one of the after=
market rubber seals.  Be careful also not to gouge the face of the aluminum s=
eal where it mates with the flat surface of the block. Go slow and be carefu=
l. It should all work as intended.
> Phil Gott
> =20
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> Sent from my iPhone
> =20
> On Mar 23, 2020, at 10:36 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
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> Don=E2=80=99t all the main bearing caps go in with bearing notches on the s=
ame side as the notches in the saddles in the block? Or is that just a TR4 t=
hing?
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
> =20
> On Mar 23, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:
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> firstly, are you 100% sure the caps are correctly fitted both round the ri=
ght way and in number order?
> you need to decide if the caps are misaligned across the block or if the t=
unnel is simply oval because the hole in in cap is too far up or down. this w=
ill need a combination of feel and measurement
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> if the alternative caps have a significant step to 1 side, so you will cle=
arly feel a ledge at the mating faces when they are tightened up
> =20
> if the stap is very minor, like a few thousandths of an inch, then the fac=
es of the cap are machined down to create an oval hole, then it it is align h=
oned
> =20
> if it is really bad, like many tens of thou, then you have to firstly move=
 the cap sideways by machining the register on 1 side and peening it on the o=
ther, and effectively moving it sideways, followed by boring/honing
> =20
> sometimes, the bolts are too neat a fit to allow this and if thats the cas=
e, its usually easier to find some other caps or make them
> =20
> if the tunnel is simply an oval because the cap is too far up or down, thi=
s is usually easily fixed by facing the cap mating surfaces and reboring the=
 tunnels
> =20
> not all engine machine shop have a line borer...mine did not, so subcontra=
cting the job is not uncommon
> =20
> the end result should be a perfectly round hole with a super fine hone (cr=
oss-hatch) mark on the bearing faces, to ensure perfect bearing shell contac=
t
> =20
>  Terry
> Australia
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:32 AM Bud Rolofson via Fot <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
> Speaking of main caps I bought a block that turned out to not have the ori=
ginal main caps. The caps on there did not match up with the block but I=E2=80=
=99ve been unable to find a machine shop that can machine them so there=E2=80=
=99s a round hole for the crank. The shop I had do my last block (and they d=
o 427 race engines among others and are well respected) told me that the res=
ult would be ovaled out holes (not round) which obviously is not good.
> Certainly there=E2=80=99s a way to make this work but I haven=E2=80=99t fo=
und it. I checked out another block shop but said they subcontract line-bori=
ng to the the shop that said they couldn=E2=80=99t do it.=20
> =20
> Has anyone else encountered this problem? I=E2=80=99ve heard that steel ma=
ins might be an answer but they=E2=80=99d still have to be line-bored to mak=
e them match. I hate to ship a block to get this done before I have reassura=
nces that they can make it work but does anyone know of that has successfull=
y made main caps match the block? Given I=E2=80=99m spending a lot of time t=
hese days staying home and catching up on car projects in the shop I figured=
 it would be a good time to start building the next engine.
> =20
> Solutions or recommendations?
> =20
> Thanks
> Bud
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> =20
> On Mar 22, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
> =20
> Amici,
> In typically rookie race engine builder mode with the block I selected for=
 rebuild, I pulled the main bearing caps (with my new fancy DeWalt 20V Impac=
t Wrench) and then couldn't remember which way around they went.=20
> =20
> This led to visions of catastrophic failure somewhere down the road. Yet, I=
 had several other blocks I could flip over and make a determination if need=
 be.
> =20
> I was examining one of the caps when I discovered the faintest engraving o=
n the surface of each cap:
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> Eng #2 Front Fwd
> Eng #2 Mid Fwd
> Eng #2 Rr Fwd
> =20
> Doug Brown, my original owner/builder/driver extraordinaire had engraved e=
ach cap for me to make sure a mistake didn't occur. He rotated 3 engines dur=
ing each season in a quest for Divisional and National Championships.
> =20
> I guess that is the way a aeronautical/mechanical engineer and very succes=
sful racer thinks.
> =20
> Thanks again Doug!
> =20
> =20
> Cheers,
> =20
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> Brad Eells
> Chino CA
> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3
> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4
> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
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color:#1F497D">Hi Phil =E2=80=93 There is a better solution to the stock ten=
sioner. It
was developed by Ken Knight for the wet liner engine and is hydraulic simila=
r
to the system used on Datsun 4cyl and Z engines. His is a piece of art.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>

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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Stuck up here in northern Alberta with everything shut down. E=
ven
the first half of our racing season has been cancelled.<o:p></o:p></span></p=

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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Keep safe everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">It is really encouraging to see FOT waking up, I was really
starting to miss it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-siz=
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[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>vfracing--- via Fot<=
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<b>Sent:</b> March 24, 2020 6:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Hi Marcel; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Line boring should not materially affect the chain itself, as t=
he
crank centerline is raised usually less than .005". &nbsp;Might affect cam
timing a bit, but in the worst case scenario that can be fixed with a Vernie=
r
sprocket. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
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color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">However, I agree with your assessment of the tensioner.
&nbsp;Would like to know if there is a better solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p=

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font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Phil<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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ze:10.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">-----O=
riginal Message-----<br>
From: van.mulders.marcel &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Phil Gott &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, Mar 24, 2020 8:26 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">What about the chain? Is there noticeably more slach of it?<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">The chain tensioners do almost nothing . Sometimes there are de=
ep
grooves in a short time, sometimes there is almost no scoring. Probably this=
 is
because of the chain running smoothly or with severe oscillations. Oscillati=
ons
of the chain will have an influence on the ignition timing too.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Has anyone tried an alternative solution for the tensioner to k=
eep
the chain quiet?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Marcel<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:black">Van: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Aan: </b>"Bob Kramer" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Verzonden: </b>Dinsdag 24 maart 2020 12:47:41<br>
<b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Yes, Bob, as far as I know you are correct, the bearing notches=
 in
the caps and saddles are always on the same side.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></=
p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">In the TR wet sleeve engine, each cap is unique as to its
position, so it should be really hard to mix them up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Kas is right, however, in that in many engines it is good pract=
ice
to mark each cap as to position and orientation, just to be sure.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">I have had a wet sleeve block line bored just to true it up at A=
BT
machine in Holliston, Mass. This creates two issues that must be addressed,
both due to the slight raising of the crank center line:<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">1) the clearance space of the top of the pistons needs to be
checked to be sure there is no interference at TDC. Usually not a problem.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">2) more of a problem is that the aluminum insert for the rear m=
ain
seal may interfere with the block. This will become apparent when using the
centering tool, and can be addressed by filing down the area of the seal whe=
re
it interferes. Do not file or alter any other surface, as this will compromi=
se
the ability of the seal to function and/or to hold correctly one of the
aftermarket rubber seals. &nbsp;Be careful also not to gouge the face of the=

aluminum seal where it mates with the flat surface of the block. Go slow and=
 be
careful. It should all work as intended.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Phil Gott<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">On Mar 2=
3, 2020, at 10:36 PM,
Bob Kramer via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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ze:10.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Don=E2=80=
=99t all the main bearing caps
go in with bearing notches on the same side as the notches in the saddles in=

the block? Or is that just a TR4 thing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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ze:10.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">On Mar 2=
3, 2020, at 6:59 PM,
Enquiries Road &amp; Track via Fot &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">firstly, are you 100% sure the caps are correctly fitted both
round the right way and in number order?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">you need=
 to decide if the caps
are misaligned across the block or if the tunnel is simply oval
because&nbsp;the hole in in cap is too far up or down. this will need a
combination of feel and measurement<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">if the alternative&nbsp;caps have a significant step to 1 side,=
 so
you will clearly feel a ledge at the mating faces when they are tightened up=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">if the stap is very minor, like a few thousandths&nbsp;of an in=
ch,
then the faces of the cap are machined down to create an oval hole, then it i=
t
is align honed<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">if it is really bad, like many tens of thou, then you have to
firstly move the cap sideways by machining the register on 1 side and
peening&nbsp;it on the other, and effectively moving it sideways, followed b=
y
boring/honing<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">sometimes, the bolts are too neat a fit to allow this and if th=
ats
the case, its usually easier to find some other caps or make them<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">if the tunnel is simply&nbsp;an&nbsp;oval because the cap is to=
o
far up or down, this is usually easily fixed by facing the cap mating surfac=
es
and reboring the tunnels<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">not all engine machine shop have a line borer...mine did not, s=
o
subcontracting the job is not uncommon<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">the end result should be a perfectly round hole with a super fi=
ne
hone (cross-hatch) mark on the bearing faces, to ensure&nbsp;perfect bearing=

shell&nbsp;contact<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">&nbsp;Terry<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:32 AM Bud Rolofson via Fot &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=

wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Speaking of main caps I bought a block that turned out to not h=
ave
the original main caps. The caps on there did not match up with the block bu=
t
I=E2=80=99ve been unable to find a machine shop that can machine them so the=
re=E2=80=99s a
round hole for the crank. The shop I had do my last block (and they do 427 r=
ace
engines among others and are well respected) told me that the result would b=
e
ovaled out holes (not round) which obviously is not good. <o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Certainly there=E2=80=99s a way to make this work but I haven=E2=
=80=99t found it.
I checked out another block shop but said they subcontract line-boring to th=
e
the shop that said they couldn=E2=80=99t do it.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Has anyone else encountered this problem? I=E2=80=99ve heard th=
at steel
mains might be an answer but they=E2=80=99d still have to be line-bored to m=
ake them
match. I hate to ship a block to get this done before I have reassurances th=
at
they can make it work but does anyone know of that has successfully made mai=
n
caps match the block? Given I=E2=80=99m spending a lot of time these days st=
aying home
and catching up on car projects in the shop I figured it would be a good tim=
e
to start building the next engine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Solutions or recommendations?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Bud<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">On Mar 22, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Amici,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">In typically rookie race engine builder mode with the block I
selected for rebuild, I pulled the main bearing caps (with my new fancy DeWa=
lt
20V Impact Wrench) and then couldn't remember which way around they went.&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">This led to visions of catastrophic failure somewhere down the
road. Yet, I had several other blocks I could flip over and make a
determination if need be.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">I was examining one of the caps when I discovered the faintest
engraving on the surface of each cap:<br>
<br>
Eng #2 Front Fwd<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Eng #2 Mid Fwd<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Eng #2 Rr Fwd<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Doug Brown, my original owner/builder/driver extraordinaire had=

engraved each cap for me to make sure a mistake didn't occur. He rotated 3
engines during each season in a quest for Divisional and National
Championships.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">I guess that is the way a aeronautical/mechanical engineer and
very successful&nbsp;racer thinks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ver=
dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Thanks again Doug!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">&lt;IMG_8745.jpg&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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dana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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erdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Brad Eells</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-family=
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&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></=
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erdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">Chino CA</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-family:&=
quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
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erdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:black">#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
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